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#181 traveller

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Posted 26 February 2003 - 05:32 PM

UH oh.
Poms 19 for 2!!
Stiff upper lip boys?
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#182 zxb

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Posted 26 February 2003 - 05:34 PM

We need 5 runs an over. Currently we are only getting about 2! It' a disaster. :(:mad:
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Posted 26 February 2003 - 07:01 PM

Ah England are screwed its all over they've lost(surely?)

I'll have to go and see how the tables are looking now.
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Posted 26 February 2003 - 07:09 PM

Looking sad indeed! 106-6
Only a miricle will help.
I wonder if we'll see Kenya in the sixes and no England??
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Posted 26 February 2003 - 07:26 PM

I don't know why everyone else seems to perform suspiciosly better against India than we do. Even Holland removed them all for just over 200.
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Posted 26 February 2003 - 07:55 PM

I think we might win if we gave the 12th man one of these.

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Well, just a thought. :)
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#187 traveller

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Posted 26 February 2003 - 07:59 PM

Perhaps the others gear themselves up against India in the way the Indians wind themselves up for you?
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#188 zxb

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Posted 26 February 2003 - 08:03 PM

Well, maybe, but why can't we wind ourselves up in preparation too?
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Posted 26 February 2003 - 08:20 PM

168 all out. :(

Man of the match? Flintoff or Nehra presumably.
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#190 traveller

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Posted 26 February 2003 - 08:25 PM

It's over 168 AO, pity for the crowd, though and the Poms. Will they at least be able to hold their heads up v Australia? Or go home totally devastated after a looooong hot summer? Flintoff, Caddick and Collingwood look like a good new crop and if your selectors don't mess around with the team too much, perhaps the side can gel. Will gough come back? I liked the look of him a few years back.
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#191 zxb

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Posted 26 February 2003 - 08:30 PM

The general concensus about Darren Gough, is not one of optimism. The chances of him recovering, and returning are not very high. There is talk about Graham Thorpe making a come back though. :confused:
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#192 traveller

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Posted 26 February 2003 - 08:44 PM

I don't know much about him, but it seems to me his was a similar career to Graham? Hick. Had absolute brilliant spells but never solidified or extended them outside of the country. Then was dropped and never could force his way back in. Is this correct?
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#193 zxb

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Posted 26 February 2003 - 08:51 PM

I don't know exactly why he was dropped. It could have been voluntary, as he was going through some serious emotional, personal problems at the time. Perhaps they affected his spells, leading to the selectors dropping him, I don't know. His personal problems were what forced him to drop out of the recent Ashes tour in the 11th hour. It's not that he couldn't force his way back in. It's that he hasn't yet tried. I'm sure he could if he wanted to though.
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#194 traveller

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Posted 26 February 2003 - 11:15 PM

Thanks z
I didn't realise that he had personal issues. Of course, since I've been back here, it's very hard to get all the ins and outs of cricket worldwide. bbc,cricinfo,smh.etc.
have a good evening! and on to tomorrows speculation!
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Posted 27 February 2003 - 12:07 AM

http://www.channel4....ws/nr_5665.html

Can we (England) still reach the super sixes? Do we have to beat Australia to get there?

Points table:

http://www.channel4...._639.html#table
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#196 Gospel

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Posted 27 February 2003 - 10:38 AM

Well played India. The evening conditions of
Durban bit heavily into the top order; however
Nick Kight's run-out was ridiculous and seemed
to set the tone. And 6-26 speaks for itself.
Exemplary bowling.

It seems impossible to win a day-nighter
batting second. The ball was seeming all over
the place.

Now all we can hope is that India do a number
on Pakistan, as I don't fancy our chances
against the World Champs.
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#197 tedward

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Posted 27 February 2003 - 12:34 PM

so the remaining fixtures that effect england are

pakistan v india
pakistan v zimbabwe
zimbabwe v netherlands
and england v australia

If England beats Australia (ha ha) the poms should go through on run rate

if England losses and either pakistan or zimbabwe win both their upcoming games then that winning team goes through.

If both pakistan and zimbabwe both lose at least one of their upcoming games then it goes to run rate*

*I presume its run rate ithat decides who goes through but if it goes to who won out of the contest between the two teams then that zimbabwe decision could nip england in the butt.

Chances of England beating Australia - Slim at best the only thing in their favour is that Australia have already qualified and wont need to try that hard however it is england and no one wants to lose to them.
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#198 Gospel

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Posted 27 February 2003 - 12:53 PM

Can't argue with your analysis Ted.

It would have been great for England to have
booked it's place in the last 6 with a win over
India; giving an up-your's to the ICC.

Unfortunatley we're instead reliant on miracles;
if we go home now it will delight Mugabe no
end.
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#199 traveller

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Posted 27 February 2003 - 12:55 PM

Good morning my UK mates!
Ted... yes quite a scenario.
I hope the Aussies don't go smug on me, or the management start fiddling around with the team, just because they're already in the six!
Oz v Poms: I hope the poms win the toss, put up a good score 275-300, and give the Aussies a good total to chase. good for the game and the fans.
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#200 Gospel

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Posted 27 February 2003 - 12:58 PM

We've definately got a better shout without
Warnie in the bowling attack - however they've
got quality in abundance. Lets hope our new
boys can get amoungst them.
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