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#1 pacific

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Posted 18 February 2003 - 04:18 PM

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Right side of a future agile aircraft or spaceplane.
It's tailless.

The inward H plane.

pacific posted 01-20-2003 22:02

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----------------w-----------w---------------
---------------w-------------w--------------
--------------wBBBBBBBBBw-------------
-------------w-----------------w------------
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frontal view.


It's the better and the most agile configuration of all the times with or without vectorable thrust.


B = Lifting Body/Fuselage
W= Tilted wings
It doesn't need the tail with or without vectorable thrust.



DO YOU REMEMBER BIRD OF PREY by BOEING?

THE ABOVE IS A LOT FORWARD CONCEPT PLAN.





:P :D :rolleyes: :cool:
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Posted 18 February 2003 - 04:36 PM

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-------------w---------w-------------------
--------------w----------w-----------------
---------------w-----------w---------------
----------------w------------w-------------
-----------------w-------------w-----------
----------------w----------------w---------
---------------w-------------------w-------
---<<<<bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbplan-rear

Inverted arrow wing of yours X-29 and S-37 a lot of vibration at the increase of speed.

pacific posted 01-20-2003 20:33

MINE SOLUTION:

The right inverted arrow wing is this:

-------------------w------------more of 200 degree
-----------------w------w-------------------
-------A------w-------------w--------------point A 90degree or +
-----------------w----------------w---------
-------------------w-------------------w----
---------------------w----------------------w
-----------------------w------------------------w point B 90 degree or +
--------------------w-------------------------------w
---------------w-----------------------------------------w--+/- 120 degree
--<<<BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBrear

There is difference.

The Better solution inverted wing.

Think about the schemes they are wings plan different from yours (X-29 and S-47).

Evaluate them.


pacific posted 01-20-2003 20:39
It's very hard drawnig in a forum with the posts.

pacific posted 01-20-2003 20:47
My inverted wings have more stability than yours, less frictions and vibrations from the extreme of the wing to the body.
and is more sturdy.




:P :D :rolleyes: :cool:
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#3 pacific

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Posted 18 February 2003 - 05:19 PM

BIRD OF PREY by BOEING frontal view

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..............................w..w.........................w..w
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.........................................BBBBBBBBBB..............

Now you can use your fantasy and logic on the above scheme.

:P :rolleyes: :D :cool:
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Posted 18 February 2003 - 10:11 PM

http://www.m-w.com/mw/art/buffalo.htm

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Posted 18 February 2003 - 10:20 PM

http://www.m-w.com/mw/art/greyhoun.htm

23.rd "Like greyhounds out of chain"

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Posted 18 February 2003 - 10:30 PM

http://www.m-w.com/mw/art/raven.htm

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Posted 20 February 2003 - 08:20 PM

http://www.m-w.com/mw/art/balalaik.htm
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Posted 20 February 2003 - 09:49 PM

Hey pac, maybe you could post an attachement and use one of your word processor's art/drawing functions to make the pictures.
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#9 pacific

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Posted 21 February 2003 - 06:01 PM

I make my rough draft/sketch directly on the forum :D :cool:

It's a rough draft/sketch of a plan/design

If you are a painter or a tech.draft try to extract a plan/design very understandable.

Are you able to do the above?
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#10 pacific

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Posted 21 February 2003 - 06:08 PM

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Shuttle + tank + buster

T=TAIL/RUDDER
F=FUSELAGE
W=WING
t=tanker of fuel (the dangerous)
B=BUSTER

The problem is the interference between the downside of the Shuttle (Thermic shield) and the group tank-Busters on the departure/start.
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Posted 22 February 2003 - 05:38 PM

-----------------w---------w----------------
----------------w-----------w---------------
---------------w-------------w--------------
--------------wBBBBBBBBBw-------------
-------------w-----------------w------------
------------w-------------------w-----------
-----------w---------------------w----------
............Busters and Tank between the wings

departure start position.

Reentry opposite to the above, the thermic shield is external to the "H" with tilted wings. Thermic shield on the lifting body and external to the wings.
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Posted 22 February 2003 - 08:43 PM

-----------------w---------w----------------
----------------w-----------w---------------
---------------w-------------w--------------
--------------wBBBBBBBBBw-------------
-------------w-----------------w------------
------------w-------------------w-----------
-----------w---------------------w----------
............Busters and Tank between the wings

departure start position.

Reentry opposite to the above, the thermic shield is external to the "H" with tilted wings. Thermic shield on the lifting body and external to the wings.

Up side down "H" to reentry

and up side down again to landing

the start/departure are equal to landing.

:cool:

Try to imagine and think about it.

Your problem is the tanker and the thermic shield not protect against the failure of the tanker and of the busters to the start departure

The thermic shield is very fragile today. WHY?

Because it is exposed to the offence/hurt/harm of the failure of the tank and of the busters.

You think about the above written and you find the solution.

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NASA WAKE UP IT IS MORNING!

w=WINGS
F= FUSELAGE
T= TANK OF FUEL
B= BOOSTERS

IT'S A SHUTTLE
IT'S A PLANE
IT'S AN AIRCRAFT
IT'S ALSO A FIGHTER ( THE STARFIGHTER II ) VSTOL / ESTOL

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#13 pacific

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Posted 25 February 2003 - 09:02 PM

It's also a cruise missile
It's also a EAW-RECCE cruise missile
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#14 pacific

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Posted 28 February 2003 - 07:05 PM

You don't forget the Ejectable Capsule with
the Martin-Baker zero-zero or similar.

The Ejectable chair is the past.

The Future is the Ejectable Capsule with
the Martin-Baker Zero-Zero inside to be very sure and safety.

A Lot forward to everyother.
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Posted 28 February 2003 - 07:43 PM

are photos not allowed here?

Posted Image

http://www.boeing.co..._021018-2m.html

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Posted 28 February 2003 - 07:53 PM

have you heard anything about the switch wing switch blade plane

i doubt its going to materialise but it still looks cool at any rate.

http://www.air-attac...witchblade.html
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#17 pacific

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Posted 28 February 2003 - 07:56 PM

I'm over the Top of the shi.t.


Evaluate my drawings, They are a Lot forward than yours prototypes.

No-one tries to purpose an Ejectable Capsule with a Martin-Baker Zero-Zero (or Similar -Russian-) Inside, It's what a pilot need and want to feel himself sure and safety in the skyes.

:D

I'm a Lot forward.
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#18 pacific

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Posted 28 February 2003 - 08:07 PM

I PUT PEPPER ON YOUR TAILS I WANT MORE AND BETTER THAN TODAY.

EVERY PILOT WANTS SURVIVE. THIS IS THE FIRST AXIOM.

I drawing mine last Spring less or more.

I don't copy anyone.

The Body of BIRD OF PREY IS VERY VERY INTERESTING.

BIRD OF PREY is not a real tailless. I've seen something under like a rudder-trimmer (rear and under).:P

http://www.boeing.co...4/dvd-226-5.jpg
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#19 pacific

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Posted 28 February 2003 - 08:13 PM

The X-29 and S-37 have a conceptual error in the design of the wings, This is because they don't fly well as you want.

Evaluate the Drawnings in the forum.

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-------------w---------w-------------------
--------------w----------w-----------------
---------------w-----------w---------------
----------------w------------w-------------
-----------------w-------------w-----------
----------------w----------------w---------
---------------w-------------------w-------
---<<<<bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbplan-rear

X-29 and S-37 YOURS less or more the same angles.

MINE SOLUTION:

The right inverted arrow wing is this:

-------------------w------------more of 200 degree
-----------------w------w-------------------
-------A------w-------------w--------------point A 90degree or +
-----------------w----------------w---------
-------------------w-------------------w----
---------------------w----------------------w
-----------------------w------------------------w point B 90 degree or +
--------------------w-------------------------------w
---------------w-----------------------------------------w--+/- 120 degree
--<<<BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBrear

There is difference in the angles more difference, it's less or more what i've in my mind.

The Technology of Today and Yesterday is the Limit.

I use this Limit I don't opposite to it.




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#20 pacific

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Posted 28 February 2003 - 08:29 PM

No, i'm retired.:D
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