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#1 Missouri Mule

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Posted 26 February 2003 - 02:03 PM

Bush is planning to get the new government up and running quickly. We'll find those WMD very quickly with their cooperation.

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February 26, 2003
U.S. Categorizes Iraqis to Punish, or to Deal With
By THOM SHANKER and DAVID JOHNSTON

ASHINGTON, Feb. 25
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Posted 26 February 2003 - 03:17 PM

Excellent article. It has been estimated by some defectors that 99.8% of all Iraquies hate the bas-tard Sadooooom.

I think only a handful of his closest associates will be held respossible.

Iraq has a much higher literacy rate than , say Afghanistan.

A new government by Iraqies will be set up very quickly.
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Posted 27 February 2003 - 03:33 AM

Thank you! I was looking for this quote yesterday:

President Bush seemed to have some of these officials in mind when when he told reporters that Iraq's generals should "clearly understand that if they take innocent life, if they destroy infrastructure, they will be held to account as war criminals."



Now, is this going to apply to the US as well? I'd love to see the US try to bring Iraqis up before a court it doesn't acknowledge itself, or even better still, try to create one of its own while still claiming immunity from prosecution for war crimes for itself. But at least Bush has acknowledged that killing innocent civilians and destroying infrastructure (collateral damage when the US does it) is, in fact, a war crime.
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Posted 27 February 2003 - 04:39 AM

Bush is planning to get the new government up and running quickly. We'll find those WMD very quickly with their cooperation.

By planting them. If so sure of the WMD whereabouts why not give a reliable info to the UN inspectors to prove you right? Never happen up to now. LOL :D
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Posted 27 February 2003 - 04:44 AM

fu2,
I found Bush's statements to be quite funny when I heard them. :D
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Posted 27 February 2003 - 04:59 AM

Bush administration officials have long said that Mr. Hussein and his ruling circle would be held accountable for crimes against the Iraqi people, from killings by security forces to attacks with weapons of mass destruction.

Taking in account the origin of the WMD given to the Saddam's US supporters during the Iran-Iraq war disregarding the inevitable Iraq civilian casulty of using them, as well the amount of extremly poisonous and radioctive (it was proven that due to sh.. separation of the spent nuclear fuel, the US DU still contain traces of plutonium) DU the US used during the Gulf War which lead to numerous cancer cases amongst the Iraq civilians, that will be a neat trick to pull. LOL :D

[i]But the compilation of a list of people potentially eligible to be charged with war crimes suggests that the planning for such tribunals
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#7 Missouri Mule

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Posted 27 February 2003 - 03:09 PM

We''ll be using military tribunals. The hangman's noose will probably get a good working out, as it should.
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Posted 28 February 2003 - 04:39 AM

Military tribunals would be even better at creating anti-Americans. Not only will the Iraqis not be afforded a trial at the ICJ, where the US might have to actually provide evidence and be confronted by their own actions in Iraq (past and present), but the US, the victor, will be judge, jury, and executioner. Way to encourage those terrorists to continue to want to destroy the US. And way to lose what little sympathy others are willing to give you.
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Posted 28 February 2003 - 04:47 AM

Most excellent article. I was looking for clues of bias and I read only what appeared to me to be facts.

Often articles of fact read much like a military publication. In other words...boring...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

It seems that today, in the search of the almighty dollar, journalists color their words complimenting the prisms of the ones who sign their checks. Objectivity, albeit not very entertaining, is refreshing none the less. And SO hard to find.
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Posted 28 February 2003 - 04:58 AM

twosongs: I don't believe your fears are warranted. Our justice system may not be perfect but it is pretty damn close. We have a long history of attempting to as fair and impartial as possible. They aren't going to be hanging anyone that don't need hanging.

Now when MacArthur took things in hand after WWII, he summarily hung about 500 camp commanders who were well known to be war criminals. In today's "touchy-feely" environoment they will undoubtedly be appointed government funded lawyers and every possible defense will be afforded. It'll probably be televised and the defense lawyers will be front and center telling us all that the defendant came from a deprived childhood. "He was depraved because he was deprived." (WSS, 1963)
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Posted 28 February 2003 - 05:26 AM

ImperalistSwine,
They could have the fairest trial ever conducted, but the perception would still be a victors' justice on the one hand, and an application of principles the US doesn't seem to believe applies to its own on the other. Perceptions are very important, maybe even more important than the facts to some people. It's a lesson the US doesn't seem to be able to grasp.
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Posted 28 February 2003 - 05:28 AM

Well you know you just might be right. But one thing is for sure. If we catch Saddam alive he will be given a fair trial and duly hanged!
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Posted 28 February 2003 - 05:30 AM

No, they won't hang him. He'll just spend his last years in a country club somewhere giving interviews to "inquiring minds."

Old Noriega is still peeling potatoes in some federal prison.
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Posted 28 February 2003 - 05:33 AM

Myabe he and Noriega can be cell-mates? They can talk to eachother what it's like to have your sponsor state turn on you, invade your country and ship you off to enjoy such a lovely retirement in a foreign country.
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#15 Missouri Mule

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Posted 28 February 2003 - 02:36 PM

Neither can blame the U.S. Noriega was under federal indictment for drug running, and was waving his sword before the cameras. He dared us to come and get him and we went and got him. Saddam could have simply abandoned his WMD program and be the president of a properous Iraq. Not the U.S. fault.
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Posted 10 May 2004 - 07:47 PM

BUSH said;

President Bush seemed to have some of these officials in mind when when he told reporters that Iraq's generals should "clearly understand that if they take innocent life, if they destroy infrastructure, they will be held to account as war criminals."

do you think this now applies to the U.S. ..do the tortures and the seige on Falugah count??

remember the U.S. has voided itself from being brought up on any war crimes in Den Hague.


swine says;
Bush is planning to get the new government up and running quickly. We'll find those WMD very quickly with their cooperation.

find them yet?
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Posted 10 May 2004 - 08:01 PM

hey, it was embarrassing enough reading swines posts first time around, thanks!

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