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Posted 09 April 2003 - 08:26 PM

I indicated that if I was to implement the rules as you state they should be enforced, that you would have been banned in one week. You'll notice that, that phrase (and the threads I pointed out) was used as an example so you would see how ridiculous it would be to take the "rules" so literally.

We have been told by the Admins to use our discretion regarding threads and posts. We are trying to do that very thing.

And ODD, there isn't enuf time in a day to stem the tide. You (if you were moderating) would be at this 24 hours a day and still the members would be unhappy with the result.

No matter what you aspire moderation to be, we (I repeat) we are not beholden to the membership here for our actions. We are beholden to the Owners and Administrators of this forum (as this should be, in my opinion due to the nature of the forum). We are trying to be as honest to the membership here as possible (and we indicate who we ban and why) and we do this of our own choice (and I agree with my fellow moderators that this should be so).

That is my point and always has been my point. A point I hope you will finally understand.:rolleyes:

You indicated in another thread that I am splitting hairs. Since it was yourself, Indrid Cole, and others who brought the issue up in the first place.... don't get angry at us when we try to the best of our ability to explain where we are coming from. So I am actually no splitting hairs. My responses are so there is discourse and communication. Nothing more, nothing less.

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#402 NomDeGuerre

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 08:29 PM

Plsek, I mentioned it to you in private PM and through your tarotplanet email.

I mentioned it to Adrian in private PM.

I find that more repellent that spamming someone's posts but hey who am I say?

These private messages to me still exist in my account.
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Posted 09 April 2003 - 08:34 PM

May I suggest you forward these Private Messages to Dmitry since Chorny (like RRBum) is a member with a lot of issues associated with him (and Dmitry should act on said issues in my opinion as it doesn't deal with the forum but with a function of the forum we have no control over)?
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Posted 09 April 2003 - 08:37 PM

vikingamerican,

forward to Dmitry's pravda email? I cannot seem to access his forum user account - if he has one.

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#405 Odd

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 09:06 PM

"I think he called me an "arse-dwelling something or other.."

Oh, it was something definitely more objectionable (dirty):
"Arrogant American.."

So you left the peninsula?


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#406 Indrid Cole

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 09:11 PM

LOL! If you called me "American", I was probably
so traumatised that I failed to register it fully!
Thus explaining that I didn't notice.


Peninsula:
Yes, the weather on the Kazintium was growing
ever so tiresome, and the Pliginthar migration
is over for the season, so it seemed time to move
along...... :)
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#407 SmallMind

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 05:47 PM

Its good to see US moderators being so patriotic! Keep it up guys.


Oh yea, I see some of the cowards have been on a deleting binge lately as if it wont be noticed. Just certain types of posts with most other useless posts of the similar kind left intact.

DOH....
Woudnt expect anything less.

:P :D :P
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#408 Indrid Cole

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 09:28 PM

smallmind:

I am concerned about this claim that threads and posts are being edited and/or deleted here (again).

What postings? Whose? And when?

And have you contacted Pravda Editor about this problem?
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#409 Adrian

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 10:04 PM

Just a short comment here....

All users can edit and DELETE their own posts.
If a poster delete their posting that was the first in a thread, the WHOLE thread will be gone.

Joseph Sarandos removed a lot of his postings here, and I'm sure that he therefore also removed some threads too
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#410 Indrid Cole

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 10:16 PM

Adrian:

Just for the record, I knew this, but it's possible others did not.

As a matter of fact, I've been known to go through and "clean up" threads of my own that have received no attention just so that the forum is not crowded down with them. It just seems polite.

I have not personally seen any 'vanished' material here, but this is the second time I've noted smallmind saying that things were going missing on the forum.

The history of my concern is simple: on the old forum format, I often posted political article just as I do here. Upon coming back to see if they had replies an hour or two later, I would find they had mysteriously been sent to Siberia, for they no longer existed.

I am hoping that the new forum software has better control mechanisms that prevent unscrupulous people from making opinions they don't like disappear, such as what happened in the past.
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#411 Adrian

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 10:30 PM

> As a matter of fact, I've been known to go through and "clean up" threads of my own that have received no attention just so that the forum is not crowded down with them. It just seems polite.

Thumbs up! Very good idea...


> I am hoping that the new forum software has better control mechanisms that prevent unscrupulous people from making opinions they don't like disappear, such as what happened in the past.

Atossa actually lost a post, and DownWithFascism confirmed it, and I THINK I saw that post too, before it dissapeared.
Another problem was that the forum went completely down some weeks ago, and Pravda restored a 4 days old backup. What was posted those 4 days, between last backup and the breakdown, was lost too.
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#412 Odd

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 01:14 AM

Cole:
"What postings? Whose? And when?
And have you contacted Pravda Editor about this problem?"

SmallMind got it right. Since the traces are gone with the deletions it's a futile task to make any case.
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#413 Indrid Cole

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 01:40 AM

Odd:

Probably. But making an ISSUE out
of these things serves to bring the
matter to everyone's attention.

If it's happening that someone with
moderation or administrative control
here is vanishing people's posts for
some covert agenda, we'd all like to
be aware of this fact, thus, I've asked
whose posts, and when.

It should be fairly apparent who the
culprit might be based upon the nature
of the content that has gone missing.


Holmesian logic: when you eliminate
the impossible, whatever remains, however
unlikely, is the solution.
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#414 Odd

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 02:33 AM

Forum member Duma got a thread deleted without explanation.
Since yours truly had contributed to the thread the deletion was duly noted and 'archived'. No warrant whatsoever for the deletion.

It's really pointless to make a case of it since the entire construct of forum management is nothing more than shambles.

No transparancy, no accountability and no objectivity.

A poster from a small backward country like me shouldn't really complain but keep my big mouth shut. ;)

OddBall


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#415 Indrid Cole

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 02:43 AM

Ha! Now see we have ANOTHER
mysterious deletion for no visible
reason or explanation. And of whose
thread? DUMA, who posts things that
cause controversy to some, but have
no real intrinsic "banning" cause of
which I am aware.

This is why I am making a noise about
this issue. If left unspoken, then the
culprit, assuming there is one, goes
on to do the deed as he or she pleases!

HERE IS ANNOUNCEMENT:

If your threads or posts come up missing
for no reason, and no moderator
emails you or contacts you to explain it,
THEN COMPLAIN VOCALLY HERE
until you get a response!!!!!
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Posted 12 April 2003 - 12:52 AM

Indrid,

>>"If your threads or posts come up missing
for no reason, and no moderator
emails you or contacts you to explain it,
THEN COMPLAIN VOCALLY HERE
until you get a response!!!!!"

hmmm...I don't know anything about any threads mysteriously disapearing :confused:

I thought once that I saw where one of Atossa's threads have disapeared? I know that Me, Adrian, and VA always post explanations here. So I'm guessing if you don't get a response it wasn't done from either one of us. I don't think zhurn has been removing any threads. So if it was not done by us you have a couple of explanations...either technical errors/problems or the board administrator removed them.
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#417 Indrid Cole

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Posted 12 April 2003 - 12:56 AM

Plsek:

Actually, you'll note from the thread
content that it's not *me* who is
complaining. But several other forum
members have made mention of this
repeatedly and it was either overlooked
or ignored.
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Posted 12 April 2003 - 01:00 AM

Idrid,

I understand. I don't know what is going on with the deleted threads. If I did, I would say so.
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#419 Indrid Cole

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Posted 12 April 2003 - 01:19 AM

LOL!

Of all the people who might possibly
be covertly taking away our little
(truly unimportant) threads, you would
be the very last on my list of suspects.

Unless of course you're putting on a
very good act and are actually CIA
plant..... hmmmm........

Call Atossa! We have discovered our
perpetrator!
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#420 JezMan

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Posted 12 April 2003 - 02:54 AM

It looks like everybody is stepping around a fire and spitting in it as they go :D

Here is my 'spit': I would like Plsek and Adrian (zhurn if he is available) to tell me by simple sentences (not too long, as I still didn't overcame headache from vikingamerican's posts :D ) what is their feeling about vikingamerican altering my poll without my knowledge.
Has this something to do with the ethic on this forum?
(I mean NO ethic whatsoever from this God-forbid moderator vikingamerican??)

:P
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