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#1 Reven

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Posted 10 March 2003 - 08:56 AM

Many Christians are confused when they confront the issue of the Law of Moses. How binding is the Law on the Christian? Some have said that Jesus abolished the Law of Moses. I would have to disagree, based on the following passage spoken by Jesus Himself:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:

I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (Matthew 5:17)


We can safely assume, that Jesus meant, "to develop the full potentialities of The law" when He said "fulfil."


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Posted 10 March 2003 - 09:12 AM

Jesus demands obedience to the Law of Moses
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 10:04 AM

The end, or purpose, of the law is shown in I Timothy 1:5, "Now the end of the commandment is charity [love] out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned." Ecclesiastes 12:13, "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:

Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is the whole duty of man."
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Posted 11 March 2003 - 03:35 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Reven
[B]Jesus demands obedience to the Law of Moses
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Posted 11 March 2003 - 07:49 AM

Every man is under the law, Saint. Especially you.

ANY man who rejects the law of Moses will be killed without mercy. (Hebrews 10-28)

You know the law, have you rejected it? It's not against the law for man to have many wives. How about that? Do you reject that part of the law?
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Posted 14 March 2003 - 05:15 AM

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I'm just in here for some 1/2 hoiur. Did read about "Barnabas" (your analysis).
I think it's required to place a notice in our library also.
It is a possible falsifying or erratic translation.


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Posted 11 May 2003 - 03:07 AM

Let it be known:



WE can not in any way escape The Law. The Law has been planted by our Father as a help for the righteous to maintain peace, stability,peace within the 'flock' of is Children.

The apostle John said that sin is the transgression of the law, I John 3:4. Only those who keep the commandments will have eternal life: Revelation 22:14, "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city." John 13:34-35, "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."


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#8 LarryD

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Posted 11 May 2003 - 03:54 AM

GOD HAS KILLED FOOLISH JEWS BEFORE, jew fool whi are you?

OLD TESTAMENT
NUMBERS 16: 35 And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred
and fifty men [JEWS]that offered incense.
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MOSES , A MERE HUMAN , WHOSE SOUL WAS EXISTENTIATED BY CHRIST-GOD IN GENESIS DTA_SEQ_SOULS


WHO IS MOSES? HUMANS ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SOME EXCUSE TO avoid RESPONSIBILITY

WELL--- DET_VES_CLEAR

MOSES IS NOT RETURNING TO JUDGE

ELIJAH IS NOT RETURNING TO JUDGE

ELISHA, ISAIAH, JEREMIAH ETC-- MERE HUMANS

SOMEONE LIVED IN JUDEA, TAUGHT IN GALILEE CAPERNAUM

CHRIST COMMANDER OF INTER-GALXIAL ATMOSPHERIC FORCES

NOW THE jew fool is trying to read the New testament

YOU WILL BREATHE OXYGEN
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GOD HAS KILLED ISRAELITES, HAS KILLED JEWS, AND HE HAS KILLED UNREPENTANT Christians
To those who have been lied to, use your own brains. Never listen to some so called jew alone.

GOD HAS KILLED MANY SINFUL JEWS BEFORE- WHO ARE YOU JEW, TO INSULT GOD -- WHO ARE YOU, A JEW TO
INSULT GOD?

God is not restricted to the term Jew.
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God IS NOT an elementary God who blesses based on the name Jew alone. THAT IS A FOOLISH ASSUMPTION

GOD HAS KILLED MANY TRUE GENUINE ISRAELITES BEFORE FOR SINFUL DISOBEDIENCE SO WHO ARE YOU KIDDING?
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GOD KILLS THE SONS OF PRIEST AARON :mad: Lev 10:1-2
1 And Nadab and Abihu the sons of Aaron took either of them his censer and put fire therein and put incense thereon and offered strange fire before the

LORD which he commanded them not.
2 And there went out fire from the LORD and devoured them and they died :mad: before the LORD. (KJV)

GOD KILLED :mad: Korah Dathan and Abiram when they rose up against Moses
Uzza when he touched the Ark.

WHEN A JEW INSULTS HIS FATHER- CHRIST
DEUT 7:25 The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire
the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therin:
for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God.

A JEW INSULTING CHRIST-GOD OR AVOIDING NEW TESTAMENT IS AN ABOMINATION TO CHRIST-GOD. :mad: IDOLATRY DEUT 7: 25
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:mad: GOD KILLS ISRAELITES [ JEWS?] SINNERS
NUMBERS 16
20 And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,
21 Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them
in a moment.
22 And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all
flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?
23 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
29 If these men die the common death of all men, or if they be visited after the
visitation of all men; then the LORD hath not sent me.
30 But if the LORD make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and
swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into
the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the LORD.
31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words,
that the ground clave asunder that was under them:
32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses,
and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods.
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33 They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the
earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.
34 And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they
said, Lest the earth swallow us up also.
OLD testament
NUMBERS 16: 35 And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred *************
and fifty jew men that offered incense.
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Posted 11 May 2003 - 04:27 AM

larani,


Study the Law and you shall find what is wrong and what is right.
Larani, it's not 'Reven' whom says. I'm only a small servant in my Fathers house and speek as such.


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Posted 11 May 2003 - 11:02 AM

Larani is emerging as one who is against the law.
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Posted 11 May 2003 - 11:38 AM

INTER GALAXIAL SPACE FORCE TRINION_LASER GUIDED

VORTICOID_ATMOSPHOS_WHORLS-------> ZODIAC

WHO AUTHORISED THE FORMATION OF THE jew human state in 1948? --WHY DID THE JEW HUMAN INSULT GOD OF NAZARETH--WHY?
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More Severe Weather Forecast For Central, Eastern
US VORTICOID_ATMOSPHOS_WHORLS-------> ZODIAC
Voice of America - 2 hours ago
Severe weather continues to threaten central and eastern United
States after a week of storms that killed more than 40 people.
Tornadoes' Second Wind Newsday
=======SPACCE SHUTTLE BOLT ZODIAC=FIZZOIDZ--====
Investigators Link Shuttle's Breakup to Damage to Wing
Yahoo News - 22 hours ago
HOUSTON, May 10 After three months' work, the independent
board investigating the breakup:rolleyes: of the space shuttle Columbia
gave a detailed working theory of the accident today, saying that
superheated gas entered through a small hole in the front edge of
the ...
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1948

YISRAEL

Friend, ACTS 1:6-7 IS VERY CLEAR.
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ACTS 1
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord,
wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons,
which the Father hath put in his own power
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OVER 120 DEAD IN SPACE VECTOIDZ_ACCELERONOIDZ
Accident in Congo a mystery:rolleyes:
Contra Costa Times - 15 minutes ago
This much is known about the bizarre and horrifying airplane
accident in Congo on Thursday: The Russian-made cargo plane that
sat on the tarmac Saturday at the airport in the capital, Kinshasa,
took off from there on Thursday evening, ...
Survivors relive jet door horror CNN Asia
Survivors recount plane chaos Boston Globe


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New tornado threatens Oklahoma, Kansas
CNN - 11 May 2003 :rolleyes:
A map of Oklahoma and Kansas counties, where red indicates a
severe threat of a tornado at 12:25 am EDT Saturday.
Editorial 05/11: Storm leaves gloom, anxiety in its wake
GoMemphis.com
Okla. cleans up from tornado, floods in Tennessee
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China pledges all resources to fight SARS:rolleyes:
Forbes - 35 minutes ago
BEIJING, May 11 (Reuters) - China's premier vowed that every
resource would be used to stop the spread of SARS as workers in
the south of the country moved onto the streets to stop the
widely-prevalent habit of spitting.
China reports 69 more SARS cases, 5 deaths

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HOW MANY WILL BE SPCE VECRIHI TO PLANET MERCURY?

HUMAN TRANSPORT _SEQ_ SATURN
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GOD KILLS ISRAELITES [ JEWS] SINNERS
NUMBERS 16
20 And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,
21 Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them
in a moment.
22 And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all
flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?
23 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
29 If these men die the common death of all men, or if they be visited after the
visitation of all men; then the LORD hath not sent me.
30 But if the LORD make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and
swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into
the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the LORD.
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ROAST_VEC_FALL_INTO_ETERNAL_SEAR_GRIDDLE_TOAST TPLUTO_ARTH_SET_HUMAN_VAR
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31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words,
that the ground clave asunder that was under them:
32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses,
and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods.
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33 They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the
earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.
34 And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they
said, Lest the earth swallow us up also.
OLD testament
NUMBERS 16: 35 And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred *************
and fifty jew men that offered incense.
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Posted 11 May 2003 - 11:46 AM

Larry, count your marbles, make sure they're all there.
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Posted 11 May 2003 - 01:29 PM

Friend, ACTS 1:6-7 IS VERY CLEAR.
Posted on Sun, May. 11, 2003
Accident in Congo a mystery
By Somini Sengupta
NEW YORK TIMES

This much is known about the bizarre and horrifying airplane accident in Congo on Thursday:
The Russian-made cargo plane that sat on the tarmac Saturday at the airport in the capital,
Kinshasa, took off from there on Thursday evening, and returned, not much later, after a rear
door came unhinged in midair.

Some of the passengers were sucked out of the plane and thrown to their deaths.

But everything else was more uncertain on Saturday than it was on Friday, when the first
reports of the accident came in.

That includes how it happened, when it happened, how many were on board and how many
lived and died. The estimates of total casualties range from none to seven to more than 120.

The plane, an Ilyushin 76, was being used to ferry Congolese soldiers and their families from the
capital to the southern city of Lubumbashi, home to a large military base.

The country's communications minister, Kikaya Bin Karubi, who told reporters Friday that the
death toll was seven, said on Saturday that the number could rise once a preliminary military
investigation was concluded.

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31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words,
that the ground clave asunder that was under them:
32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses,
and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods.
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33 They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the
earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.
34 And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they
said, Lest the earth swallow us up also.
OLD testament
NUMBERS 16: 35 And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred *************
and fifty jew men that offered incense.


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1948

YISRAEL

Friend, ACTS 1:6-7 IS VERY CLEAR.
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ACTS 1
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord,
wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons,
which the Father hath put in his own power
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Posted 12 May 2003 - 06:06 AM

Larry,

You make a joke out of yourself.
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Posted 12 May 2003 - 06:30 AM

Your laws may be all well and good in the 'land' in which you choose to dwell, just don't expect them to have any value whatsoever in anyone elses.
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Posted 12 May 2003 - 06:49 AM

Gench,


It's not *my* Laws. It is my Father's Laws and I'we opted to try respect them to the limit of my capacity. In whatever land I lay down my head to sleep. So is it , 'Gench'


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Posted 12 May 2003 - 07:12 AM

My use of 'land' was figurative.

Do your thing and believe what you wish, just never try to force anyone else to go down your belieef path. And don't do anything to affect them in any way by action or inaction if they walk a differnt path.

Telling people of you belief is one thing, going beyond that is totally wrong, and that includes threats od some doom laden hereafter if anyone thinks another way to yours, as is so often the case with Christians.
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Posted 12 May 2003 - 07:37 AM

Gench,


The 'values' has been fre to adopt or not to adopt for a long time.
Reven never 'force' anyone. All is 100% free will , do you understand that , Gench ?

The other thing is that Father is very strict and simply eliminate 'seeds' of His Creation if the individuals not performing as intended.

This is the sole right of the Father and Creator of the individual's life. Not you , Gench nor me have any say in the matter. Hope you can understand.
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Posted 12 May 2003 - 08:15 AM

Gench,

Merry meet ... druids are back

You see, what the Bishop forgot to say was that

You reside in God's Solar system

The Sun is provided free by God

You have had free access to air to breathe [oxygen] from God

You are lucky to be a resident of the Earth centered Solar System, located on the outer reaches of JESUS CHRIST'S spiral MILKY WAY GALAXY.... which is just one of the Numerous Galaxies CHRIST-GOD created.

The key here is the Milky Way Galaxy
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Posted 12 May 2003 - 08:56 AM

Ponder this ---

The Wicca, based as it is upon The Old Religion, is not a religion in the way that the Abrehamic religions are but instead is all about understanding and being a part of the Multiverse. More than a 'religion', it is about the knowledge of and belonging as a part of the one-ness of everything.

So often 'god created man in his own image' is spouted out by people whereas the reality is that various tribes have created various gods in the image that they wanted them to be. And then have the damned impertinence to condemn if not outright harm those who see through the humbug of it all.

The Wicca is in its essence nothing but the systematic pursuit and use of knowledge, and knowledge is in its essence good. To lose trust in knowledge is to lose trust in the best what makes people what they are..

Throughout the last 400 years, during which the growth of science has shown people how to acquire knowledge of the ways of nature and mastery over natural forces, religions and the religious have fought a losing battle against science, in astronomy and geology, in anatomy and physiology, in biology and psychology and sociology. Ousted from one position, they have take up another. After being shown to be fools in astronomy, they now even fight against evolution in biology. At each stage, they try to make the public forget their earlier mumbo jumbo, in order that their present mumbo jumbo may not be seen for what it is. Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines.

In any case, religion is based primarily and mainly upon fear. It is partly the terror of the unknown, and partly the wish to feel that you have a kind of older relation who will stand by you in all your troubles and disputes. But fear remains the basis of the whole thing - fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the precursor of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand-in-hand.'

Christians hold that their faith does good, but other faiths do harm. In fact all faiths do harm. But what is 'Faith'? 'Faith' as a firm belief in something for which there is no evidence. When there is evidence, no one speaks of 'faith.' We do not speak of faith that two and two are four or that the earth is round. We only speak of faith when we wish to substitute emotion for evidence, or where an argument is lost and we, like children, must admit error or simply revert to emotional outbursts.

There is something contemptible about a man who cannot face the perils and / or realities of life without the help of comfortable myths and make believe, or a mythical 'Mr Put it Right' to fall back on. Almost inevitably some part of him is aware that they are myths and invention, and that he believes them only because they are comforting. But he dare not face this thought! Moreover, since he is aware, however dimly, that his opinions are not rational, he becomes furious when they are disputed

Likewise a man who sees a major part of, if not the entire reason for his very being, to serve some illusionary being or concept thought up which has an illusionary being as its source is deluding himself. He will frequently try to draw others into his delusionary world. Or even cause harm in some way to those who refuse. It is by having encountering such people that I suggest that all religious beliefs are evidence of significant if not severe psychotic neurosis.
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