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#21 Texas Al

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Posted 10 March 2003 - 06:36 PM

d0lfins0ng . unfortunately, such is the case. I frankly don't like the position, but it falls on us, because the rest of the world is either aligned with the ones who need policing, or they just don't have what it takes to get it done.

In the current situation, Russia, France, and Germany are all aligned with Saddam. THAT is the problem.
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 06:42 PM

If the US were threatened, that would be one thing.

It isn't, so this is a UN matter alone.
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 06:44 PM

Originally posted by vigorous
A Democratic Congresswoman was on TV yesterday
saying what's a few more weeks in 12 years?

What's really at stake here? The per diem cost
of maintaining US troops in the ME?





Does anyone have a URL to the actual cost of maintaining
300.000 troops and material in the Persian Gulf area at high
alert ??

This can only serve to bankrupt America-Babylon even further !!

Keep those sandstorms coming ;)
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 06:52 PM

Only the US can determine US security. Foreign intervention in matters of US security is dangerous.
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 06:54 PM

Originally posted by vigorous
If the US were threatened, that would be one thing.

It isn't, so this is a UN matter alone.



Easy for you to say.
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#26 vigorous

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Posted 10 March 2003 - 07:00 PM

Few are convinced.
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#27 Tokyoman

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Posted 10 March 2003 - 07:03 PM

"Foreign intervention in matters of US security is dangerous."

I`d say US intervention in matters of foreign security is dangerous.

The US supported Saddam against Iran.

The US supported Osama against the Soviets.

Iraq potentially threatened Saudi Arabia.

Osama Bin Laden offered to defend Saudi Arabia from Iraq with his mujahadin.

The Saudi King refused and gave the job to infidel US troops.

Osama got pissed and turned into a dissident, protesting the Saudi autocracy and turning anti US.

Iraq withdrew from Kuwait, now pissed at their one time ally.

Osama attacked the US.

The US attacks Iraq.

Cue circus music. Doo doo doodleoo doo doo doodoo.
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#28 vigorous

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Posted 10 March 2003 - 07:07 PM

Americans want a UN resolution, just like Howard Dean said.
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 07:11 PM

Tokyoman,

Beautiful! You're absolutely right! It is a circus :)
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 07:26 PM

d0lfins0ng,

Al-Q cells are within Iraqi borders. Thus, Saddam is abetting our enemy.



Really? There are cells within the US. Are we abetting our enemy as well? This reasoning does not wash.
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#31 vigorous

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Posted 10 March 2003 - 07:31 PM

Hey dolphindung: Don't take the fact you can't get
people to follow your nation's plan on me. You're
just a frustrated warrior.
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 07:34 PM

d0lfins0ng,

Come on and think! You have to have more than that to say a government is allied with al qaeda. How many countries have we found to contain al qaeda cells? This does not mean that they are "abetting" the enemy. I want to see something more than that. Show me financial links, show me weapon sales, show me something other than merely having a cell present. What really makes it a stretch is that these cells are located out of Saddam's control in the UN "safety zone".
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 07:39 PM

d0lfins0ng,

[QUOTE]The difference is we are working diligently to uncover the terrorist cells and bring them to justice
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 07:53 PM

d0lfins0ng,

I have read your posts and I have done my own research. We've just come to different conclusions.

However, do show a smidgen of respect for the country that endeavors to secure your safety, and allows you the liberty to protest.



Stop it right there! Questioning the government is not only a right but a duty of every american. Our founding fathers had the great wisdom to know that ignorantly swallowing government propaganda was a dangerous thing. That is why they put in checks and balances and gave citizens rights, so that our government would never have so much power as to be corrupt. It's up to each and every one of us to keep them honest.
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 08:26 PM

d0lfins0ng,

Some of my favorite quotes:

"The federal government is our servent, not our master."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 08:36 PM

d0lfins0ng,

Exactly. It is our obligation to draw logical conclusions, not swallow others propaganda.



Right - but how can I swallow the shaking Saddam-al qaeda connection? Surely there must be stronger evidence our government could provide us if this was true. They give us nothing and expect us to believe it. How can you draw a logical conclusion from flimsly circumstantial evidence?

According to your mode of operation on this forum, you have very few positive statements to contribute about the liberties afforded you. It must be awful to live in such constant negativity.



Why do you think I don't appreciate the freedoms in america? Do I show appreciation by believing the Saddam-Al Qaeda connection? Do I show it by supporting an unjust war? Doesn't sound very american-like to me. We were given a voice and that means we should use it. How is expressing my opinion translated into non-appreciation???? I suppose you will accuse me of being anti-american next :(
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 09:16 PM

d0lfins0ng: I love that last quote. France has certainly made a Faustian bargain. He is bent on bringing down Bush. This is going to be a battle to the death. Saddam is laughing up a storm today as France does his dirty work for him.
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 09:23 PM

"I don't understand why everyone is so pressured because of the war. It does not seem to me that there will be anything. That one, with the mustache, will not do anything, and for sure not with the gas that everyone says he has, and if he only tries, then for sure the Americans and the British will intervene. And in general, even if now it is not so good here and there is a little inflation, still there is no better place for the Jews than this country."

Zepora Shwartz, Berlin, 1933

Anyone care to do a Google and tell me where this quote originally came from? All I can find are right wing pro war propaganda sites. I`d hate to think this is a piece of fiction.
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Posted 10 March 2003 - 09:25 PM

d0lfins0ng,

I have to disagree with you. Perhaps you missed my last post in regards to the czech-slovak anti-chemical unit. I praised the US for making this alliance which could help to protect our soldiers and innocent civilians in case of a chemical attack. Looks like we have learned from the last gulf war and are taking better precautions. Have you not read any of my posts in which I defend americans against the stupid stereotypes portrayed here? Have you not seen my posts where I have said that all politicians are playing their own games? Didn't you read what I wrote to Viking396?

Perhaps you are seeing what you want to see?

You didn't state I was anti-american. I asked the question if that was the next step.
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Posted 11 March 2003 - 05:51 AM

if saddam is so cynical as to pay homicide bombers' families 25 grand,

what else is he so cynical and calculating to do under the table - carefully done so no fingerprints can be traced to him????


we know the guy's a megalomaniac (witness the murals and statues everywhere)

we know he likes nasty weapons

we know his word means nothing.

so when does he hook up with n. korea & hamas to nuke a u.s. city in support of jihad ????

that sounds crazy!!!! the U.S would go apeshite.

but . . . what else has saddam done that sounds crazy????

he wants to be an arab hero!!!!!!!!

he broke the gulf war treaty.

the war's back on

let's finish him this time and move on to issues like disarming n. korea,
world hunger and AIDS!!!!!
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