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#1 Ghostwriter

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 08:39 AM

It has been nearly 10 years since I first demonstrated the fallacy of the atom bomb and commercially-viable nuclear energy production (so-called nuclear reactors) claims at Liberty Forum.

 

Since then, apart from the emotional appeals for a return to reason from those believers in anything extraordinary, my work in this field has never found a serious rebuttal.

 

So, should any readers here believe they possess information to discredit my findings I urge you to come forward and present any reasons that compel you to accept those official stories and official claims.

 

Rebuttals rife with emotion and devoid of substance will, of course, be ignored. Serious inquiries only.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:03 AM

A GOOD HOAX..IS A GOOD HOAX :lafn:

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 12:30 PM

In Hiroshima there exists a special camphor tree. This camphor tree is famous because a claim says that it was uprooted by the shockwave of an atomic explosion.

 

I wonder how many people watched the night rodents knaw at those succulent roots until the giant fell down? I wonder if any of those people scratched their heads when they heard that the atomic cowboys were changing that story to suit the requirements of a hoax atomic explosion?

 

Across the years I have presented my work in many venues where ideas are discussed online and more than once I was told to go talk to the people in Japan before dismissing the atom bomb claims. Based on the numbers of contradictory stories I have come across I believe talking to those people freely and directly would have the opposite effect, they would confirm my findings.

 

Of course there is no denying that the M69 firebombing of that city was no more fun than any other Japanese city burned down by that nasty ordinance but truth be said that no atomiic bomb ever went off in Japan, ever.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 03:05 PM

The Hiroshima blast estimated at the equivalent of 19 kt of tnt has been also described as a 6.3 equivilant to the Richter seismic measuring scale meaning that so-called uniique blast would have been recorded halfway around the world with the monitoring sensitivities of that era.

 

So, when we ask what happened to the historic seismograms of Hiroshima or Nagasaki and ask why none are on display in the bomb museums we must also bear in mind that the conspiracy to hide those records is fairly wide. More than just Japan are hiding this evidence.

 

Where are the seismic records of the big Tokyo firebombing just 6 months before Hiroshima was attacked? Hiroshima was destroyed using the same kind of ordinance used on large portions of Tokyo months before. I imagine you will never see the Tokyo records if not only to avoid comparisons with the Hiroshima records should they miraculously surface.

 

Those siesmograms disappeared just as fast and surely as the stars in any manned moonlanding picture. When the hoaxster is faced with evidence he cannot fake he makes it go away for good and takes what he can salvage of the potholed story to the doors of the treasury and helps himself to the sweat and tears of a big nation filled with millions of people.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 03:14 PM

High altitude blasts do not create a mushroom cloud. That is a fact.

 

In order to grow into the mushroom shape the air mass above it must be cooler and relatively stable.

 

A circumferential blast generating shockwaves and extemely intense heat in all directions would have certainly upset the air mass so dramatically as to void all the conditions essential to the formation of a mushroom cloud.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 03:25 PM

Electromagnetic pulses of great intensity are no laughing matter. The atomic bomb was described, amongst many things, as a massive generator of these destructive pulse-type energies. Anything electrical is going to suffer a catastrophic failure if subjected to the EMP said to have been part of the Hiroshima blast event.

 

Instead of finding boxes full of tramway electric motors and car solenoids and burnt out telephone circuits in the memorabilia museums we find a mechanical watch on display suggesting only one man owned a watch in Hiroshima at that time and cars were not invented yet and trams run on horse manure combustion.

 

So many holes in the official claims of the atomic hoaxsters that you could drive a semi through. A veritable trillion dollar farce when observed by any reasoning individual.


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 10:36 PM

Two men in a closed room, knee-high in gasoline. Both do not trust each other and each has a pocket full of matches. Why won't they use the matches to attack each other? Because the doctrine of Mutually-Assured-Destruction says that both will be killed if one attacks the other.

 

Makes sense. If one side attacks the other both will be killed and the room will burn down to ashes. By the same logic one might expect to see diplomatic policies on both sides favoring a peaceful resolution to any disputes that may arise between them. One might even expect that failed diplomacy could be the end for all concerned.

 

A situation similar to this hypothetical gasoline-and-matches scenario can be found in the global proliferation of so-called atom bombs especially where those said to be in possession of them possess then in great measure. This claimed saturation of weapons of mass destruction has been seen as a potential to extinguish all life on the planet. Hostilities of an irreconciliable nature arising between the owners of the lion's share of the global stockpiles was estimated to result in such destruction as to be final and irreversible. The Doctrine of Mutually-Assured-Destruction at its finest hour.

 

Global politics and statesmanship have not improved one bit in the face of this terrible potential for armageddon. Instead we have witnessed countless military action around the globe ransacking and destroying everything in sight seemingly oblivious to the potential global destruction and extinction of mankind that might escalate from any one of these miliitary actions.

 

They are behaving as if both men, knee-high in gasoline do not possess the means to ignite it. In other words, as if they know atom bombs are not real and do not pose a threat.


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 10:58 PM

Whenever you come across a story about the rise in cases of cancer following the raids on Hiroshima and Nagasaki you never see those compared with the rise in cancers following the B-29 petrol bombings (M-69) of any other Japanese city.

 

People might connect the dots and figure out that maybe Hiroshima and Nagasaki were firebombed the exact same way the other cities were burned down if the authorities had admitted this nationwide statistic alongside the atom-bomb-caused-cancer broadcasts..

 

By simply saying the rise in cancers was caused by atom bombs while neglecting to present the whole cancer picture of Japan for that period is hardly a rich endorcement of the validity of the atom bomb claim.

 

Black rain fell in torrents following the B-29 raid on Hiroshima. Black, oily rain. Ignited petrol vapours condensed by a fierce firestorm. Black, oily rain fell on Tokyo after the massive B-29 M-69 raid that scorched 100,000 people to death 6 months earlier.


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 11:13 PM

Have you ever see those places where you can store your stuff for a fee? Rows of low buildings and plenty of garage-type doors with locks. Lockers where people pay to store their belongings. Compartments. When the person renting the space gives you a key you are now compartmentalized within the mass storage perimeter. Meaning you have access to your compartment to put your stuff and do-your-thing so-to-speak. The other compartments are off limits to you.

 

When you work in the atomic related industries you are given your space and forced to sign formal secrecy documents related to matters of National security. What this means is that every other compartment is off limits to you and you must confine your activities to your assigned area and you must keep your mouth shut tight. A man occupying such a position in a business shrouded and bonded into secrecy is compartmentalized within the industry. Meaning he will only see what his clearance allows.

 

The whole atomic industry is locked-down solid by draconian measures of compartmentalization. A whisleblower won't get very far if one were to stray from the generous incentives to silence and rock the boat. The state has nothing but options to silence "inside" leaks.

 

Compartmentalization is an important key to the success of the atom bomb hoax.


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 12:05 AM

If someone exploded a medium yield "physics package" on the moon what would that prove? Is there any known phenomenon in the universe that can spontaneously create a burst of that magnitude without man doing it and exactly at the moment man says he will do it? I don't think so.

 

If any person or nation exploded an atom bomb on the moon that would irrefutably prove two things, that man truly possesses the ability to build atom bombs and he truly possesses the ability to deliver them to the moon.

 

The United States, at a time when rockets were starting to show man a real potential for travel into the extreme upper layers of our atmosphere and beyond, devised a proposal they called Project A-119. Excited by this new potential and driven by a constant need to legitimze their big lies they set out to draft plans to blow up part of the moon with a nuke and impress the Russians.

 

This show was to happen at the end of the 50s but was cancelled. I estimate they discovered they would never be delivering any amount of explosive to the moon to fake a nuke up there. When the truth of man's limitations in vertical expansion sank in the mainstream medias and governments didn't talk about nukes for two solid years. 


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 12:27 AM

If the atom bomb trials had succeeded the leadership elites facing this awesome potential for destruction on a planetary scale would have had basically two choices;

 

1- Limit production and proliferation and improve diplomacy and statesmanship and vigourously persue stability and fair play;

 

2- Kill all the people involved in the design and development, bury the plans deep and report the project as failed to the public

 

We all know they did not limit production or proliferation and all those involved were well rewarded and left to lead their lives as normally as can be expected and at the diplomatic and statesmanship levels the favorite sport is raising-the-bar and sabre-rattling and throwing fuel on all those fires they set globally.

 

If atom bombs had really worked you would never see the incitements to bloodshed and revenge on the scales we see at present.

 

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 02:18 PM

The implications revisited:

 

The Cuban Missile Crisis -- the time in our history when it is claimed that a major atomic war was barely averted.

 

Considering the illigitimacy of the atom bomb claim one can only wonder what was really going on behind the scenes of that global political drama.

 

Did Kennedy know the whole crisis was staged? Was it impossible for him not to know?

 

How could the Russians not know?

 

In the midst of a very cold and very expensive Cold War between the East and West is it concevable that both so-called superpower foes were "staging" their mistrust but actually cooperating in that massive treasury bleed under false pretenses?

 

If Castro was in-the-know about the staged crisis then we can easily summarize that the CIA attempts on his life were staged also.

 

With all this "staging" going on is it such a far reach to imagine Kennedy staged his own assassination also?

 

Was the Cuban Missile Crisis a collossal piece of hoax maintenance devised to anchor down in the public psyche the ludicrous notion that our leaders and their affiliates  possess the means to end the world and snuff out humanity at will?

 

Was it the ultimate litmus test to guage the degree of legitimacy the public held for this claimed potential?

 

Readers must appreciate the fact that listening into private converations with a hookswitch bypass technique is as old as telephones themselves and the state can listen into homes to get feedback on the public reaction to their latest public broadcasts, see if people are buying it. Maybe setting the stage for bigger lies like the planned deep space hoaxes.

 

We are talking 1962 here. A few years after they discovered they would not be able to go into space and they were pulling every stop to see if the global swarms of taxpayers would buy a "faked" series of multi-billion dollar/ruble deep space exploits.

 

This is the same period where Kennedy announced publicly that man was going into space bigtime.


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 03:26 PM

Witing on the Nuke Hoax question at Simon Shack's Reality Shack, Piper had this to say;

 

 

 

I discount the existence of "nuclear" bombs as a fear-mongering "Sword of Damocles"-type illusion that has now successfully kept billions of people living in fear of nuclear annihilation for 65 years. This is based on the improbability behind the science of the explosive device and the alleged mechanism that powered it, as well as the obviously forged videos and the high propaganda value behind the idea, since the firebombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki served to kick off the fake "cold war" and the fabricated "arms race", which featured both the US and Russia pocketing billions in their taxpayers' money for the manufacturing of these fake "nukes" and, some years later, for the "disarming" of same fake "nukes".

 

The science itself is described as improbable. I am no physicist so I'm not going to say the math in the models presenting the feasibility are wrong but from a layman's point of view I think they want me to buy the idea that they can produce energy and matter out of nothing. I think they marginalized the variables in the formulas to the extreme to create the illusion of a functional atomic bomb. This is a major reason why Einstein was the last choice to write a letter to the President, most other scientists were not as eager to let so many critical variables become trivialized.

 

As long as the common man paying for the hoax thought the experts were solid on the math they could ride with that. Voices of dissent conserning the variables were just as lost on the mainstream media as are most of the compelling arguments exposing the fake moonlandings.

 

With most people still believing the official record of the events of 911,  well after a decade-spanning tsunami of revealing discussions online describing the truth, you can well imagine people of that time favored the "we are great builders of atomiic bombs" over the voices of reason crying foul.

 

Hiroshima and Nagasaki might have been seen as the "kickoff" to the Cold War but Hiroshima and Nagasaki were elaborate homicidal eviction notices served under the shroud of war. One look at Hiroshima-the-busy-metropolis seaport merchant city these days compared with the cardboard, paper and wood prefecture full of small family lots passed on from one generation to another and if you also consider the work involved in overriding those deeds in the judiciary you will find the shortest route to bypass the courts and secure these lots for impending expansion is by firebombing the deed-owners to kingdom-come in a purifying firestorm.

 

The intense heat would prevent epidemics arising from the corporal decay of the dead. A 5000 degree firestorm is sure to make cleanup a lot safer in that regard. Protection against the presence of black rain pools everywhere is another matter little has been said about.

 

Piper mentions disarmament talks. The problem the atomic hoaxsters inherited across the decades was the pesky doctrine of Mutually-Assured-Destruction we looked at earlier in this thread. The need for genocide on a global scale was not a big concern at the end of the last one. The ruling elites had wiped out millions of hand-picked non-affiliates in each political partition and it was time to get back to regular cattle management and little thought was given to future global-scale "culling" needs. As the need for culling approached the elites were boxed into the framework of Mutually-Assured-Destruction (MAD) and could not start a WW2-style genocide without making people wonder where the nukes went and why escalation always seems impossible.

 

In that spirit they staged arms reduction talks aimed at creating the illusion that the global stockpiles were diminishing. I estimate at least someone with discretionary power thought they could sell us the idea that man had reduced his arsenals of nukes to near zero.

 

The only other choice was to stage a fake alien invasion of the "The Day the Earth Stood Still" type but instead of reasoning us into rethinking our atomic policies, the alien destroyed all the atom bombs permanently with warnings that the earth will be destroyed if the aliens feel they need to come back again.

 

Diminishing a non-existant stockpile with staged reduction talks was probably simpler.

 

Thing is, how do you convince people that any sane person would destroy his own arsenal after charging the constituents a king's ransom to obtain them? Knowing man's competitively combative nature.

 

What kind of people don't protest one peep at the wholesale destruction of very, very expensive weaponry? Greet that as if conventional weaponry was a picnic by comparison.

 

Comes right back too what I was saying earlier about people thinking they are having a pretty good day if they are not being exterminated wholesale with ignited gasoline showers driven by illusions of failed diplomacy they tell us are wars.


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 04:24 PM

Christopher Walken in his role as Coccotti a Siciliian enforcer for the mob in the film True Romance had this to say:

 

 


 

Sicilians are great liars. The best in the world. I'm a Sicilian. And my old
man was the world heavyweight champion of Sicilian liars. And from
growin' up with him I learned the pantomime. Now there are seventeen
different things a guy can do when he lies to give him away. A guy has
seventeen pantomimes. A woman's got twenty, but a guy's got seventeen.
And if you know 'em like ya know your own face, they beat lie detectors to
hell.

 

 

The atom bomb hoax has hundreds of "pantomimes".


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 04:33 PM

The aliens of Roswell New Mexico:

 

We are told that the aliens that are reported to have crash landed in Roswell New Mexico were monitoring the airbase where the first atomic capable b-29 strike forces were being assembled.

 

Now, with atom bombs turning out to be false we are left with two choices;

 

1- The aliens were trying to find a spot to grow grass so they could write crop circles or;

 

2- The Aliens at Roswell was a fictional story.

 

Wouldn't discount the possibility that they used that fabricated story to prop the legitimacy of the atom bomb claim besides grooming the public psyche to the presence of non-existing alien visiters. I'm certain if the world leaders broadcast an alien invasiion the streets would be buzzing with Roswell aliens talk. Much the way people always spring the Chernobyl story on those commercially-viable energy production deniers.


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 04:37 PM

The atom bomb spawned Godzilla. The atom bomb hoax debunks have left him motherless. The Incredible Shrinking Man needs a new alibi. The terminator needs a new power source for his internal power packs. Space1999 have lost the power for their Moonbase Alpha. Klaatu and Gort lose their reason for visiting earth. The Hunt for Red October is called off. The Sum of All Fears becomes plotless. Goldfinger can't contaminate the gold in Fort Knox.


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 06:39 PM

Next a quote (when applied to the atom bomb) in need of a reality revision:

 

by Robert Oppenheimer recognized officially as the Father of the Atom Bomb:

 

 

 

 

Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.

 

No sir, you became Swarm, ransacker of public treasuries under false pretenses.

 

This from T. Raphael Cimino:

 

 

 

“Prolific irony - For 8 years, the finger on the button that could end the world belonged to a president who couldn't pronounce the word "nuclear.”

 

The hoaxsters know that no matter what puppet is fronting the swarms he can be trusted 100% not to start an atomic war. The people running things behind the scenes know perfectly well how foolish a rogue president would look if he tried to nuke anything.

 

If the atom bomb really existed and had proliferated to the extent that a global arrmageddon would result from an escalation of hostilities between superpower nations  you can be sure there would be lots of buttons and myrad delays for one single launch.

 

So many safeguards would be hardwired into the launch process that peace might find its way back into the diplomacy before launch could be achieved. If the atom bomb were real and had the fullest potential for destruction of the planet and its inhabitants they would be taking diplomatic and statesmanship issues far more seriously.


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 06:53 PM

Some will argue that all those people treated for radiation and cancers caused by radiation exposure during government a-bomb testing or while working at the nuclear reactors serve somehow to validate the claims of atom bombs and commercially-viable nuclear energy production.

 

Are atomic bombs and nuclear reactors the only place you can get radiation poisoning or cancer? Of course not, you can be exposed to radiation wherever microwave towers or high power hydro distribution lines pass. You can get cancer from ingesting or being exposed to petrol and it's vapours.

 

This said, the atomic hoaxsters had little to do to find tons of cancer cases to blame on atomic bombs or commercially-viable nuclear energy production.

 

The same way it was easy to find countless swarms around the world born with unrelated congenital defects and rounding up the most compelling cases , fly them in to photograph them "in-situ" then label them the victims of radiation exposure from the Chenobyl explosion and meltdown.


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 07:33 PM

 
A list published on the web:
 

 
 
LIAR PANTOMIMES

  1. A liar will limit or stiffen physical expression, with few arm and hand movements. The liar will move hand, arm, and leg toward his own body in order to take up less space and become harder to see.
  2. A liar will avoid making eye contact with you when lying to you. While the liar may have no ability to hold a gaze for any length of time, a sociopath liar might look you in the eyes without difficulty for a long time.
  3. A liar tends to touch the face, throat & mouth, and touch or scratch the nose or behind their ear. A liar will not likely touch the chest/heart with an open hand. The liar covers the mouth as if to cover the lie.
  4. A liar botches the timing between emotions gestures/expressions and words. Example: Someone says, “I love it!” when receiving a gift and then smiles after making that statement, rather then at the same time the statement is made. Microexpressions may flash on the liar's face that do not comport with the liar's verbal responses.
  5. Gestures/expressions don’t match the verbal statement, such as frowning when saying “I love you.”
  6. The liar limits expressions to mouth movements, instead of using the whole face, when faking emotions (like happy, surprised, sad, awe, ). Normally a non-liar involves the whole face when expressing emotion - jaw/cheek movement, eyes and forehead push down, etc.
  7. A guilty person gets defensive. An innocent person will often go on the offensive. Or, the accused may become the accuser by pointing the finger and projecting the misdeed elsewhere. The liar may overreact by immediately behaving angry and defensive, perhaps to try to force a change of subject or to make the person submit to the liar's story.
  8. A liar feels and acts uncomfortable facing his questioner/accuser and may turn his head or body away. The liar may fidget a lot and generally look uncomfortable.
  9. A liar might unconsciously place objects (book, coffee cup, etc.) between the two of you.
  10. A liar will use your words to make an answer to the question. When asked, “Did you eat the last cookie?” The liar answers, “No, I did not eat the last cookie,” or "Are you asking me if I ate that cookie?"
  11. A statement with a contraction has a greater likelihood of truthful content: “ I didn’t do it” instead of “I did not do it”
  12. Liars sometimes avoid “lying” by not making direct statements. They imply answers instead of denying something directly.
  13. The guilty person may speak more than normally, adding unnecessary details to convince you… the liar feels uncomfortable with silence or pauses in the conversation. The liar may start talking way too fast or completely change pitch or tone of voice.
  14. A liar may leave out pronouns and speak in a monotonous tone. In a truthful statement the liar will emphasize the pronoun as much as or more than the rest of the words in a statement.
  15. A liar may garble words or speak them softly, and make errors in grammar and syntax. In other-words, the liar will muddle sentences rather than emphasize them.
  16. A liar will feel a desire to leave the area so as to escape further notice or scrutiny, and may look toward possible escape routes or fabricate an excuse like "I have to go to the bathroom again."
  17. A liar will often exhibit different mannerisms while lying than during normal conversation - any slight changes can have significance. For example, a person trying to remember a detail might normally look upward, but look downward when lying. you fare best if you know how the subject behaves during normal conversation before beginning the interrogation. In other words, soften the subject up, put the subject at ease, and notice how the subject normally acts. Then, when you discern any differences during interrogation, those differences constitute clues that the subject might want to hide the truth.
  18. A liar will willingly and with relief change the subject, while a non-liar would try to return to the original subject. A liar may avoid the subject by making sarcastic or humorous remarks.
  19. A liar tends to blink frequently as though unconsciously hiding thoughts, but revealing them instead. Note that some people blink a lot normally when not lying.
  20. The liar's eyebrows become raised. This by itself does not prove lying, but it tends to signify defensiveness. A liar aware of the tendency to blink a lot may raise the eyebrows in order to compensate. People seem to have trouble avoiding this indicator to lying.
  21. The liar may play dumb. “What are you talking about?” or “Why would you say that?” and of course looking appropriately shocked and confused.
  22. The liar, needing more time to think, may stammer and pause in between comments as if trying to gather thoughts. Look for a subtle "thinking time" delay between asking the question and obtaining the answer - the delay can suggest lying.
  23. The liar may sweat more than normal during questioning.

 

With this list in mind go find moonlanding astronaut interviews on youtube and check out the pantomimes all over the place.


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 07:49 PM

Tsutomu Yamaguchi had this to say about who should have the bomb:

 

 

 

The only people who should be allowed to govern countries with nuclear weapons are mothers, those who are still breast-feeding their babies.

 

No shades of gray here, all breastfeeding mothers are the ultimate diplomats. Back to the drawing board Weisenheimer. Oh, and be sure to get those nukes  back before the estrogen levels plummet.

 

 

John leCarre -- The Russia House:

 

 

“There's no way out," he announced with satisfaction, "and no amount of wishful dreaming will produce one. The demon won't go back in its bottle, the face-off is for ever, the embrace gets tighter and the toys cleverer with every generation, and there's no such thing for either side as enough security. Not for the main players, not for the nasty little newcomers who each year run themselves up a suitcase bomb and join the club. We get tired of believing that, because we're human. We may even con ourselves into believing the threat has gone away. It never will. Never, never, never."

 

I have wrestled that demon back into it's bottle. Didn't put up much of a fight either.


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