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Slavyansk self-defence shot down 3 helicopters. Fights at the outskrits of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk


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#21 vladzo

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 08:42 PM

Fascists have stepped way, way over the line. There is no turning back, the murdered must be avenged.

 

to nemesis :::::::::

 

i must agree with what you say;

and that is only possible because of the way that you speak.

and i want to comment that it would be possible for you to teach <cosssack> to speak in the same form of english and in the same manner of speach as you use.

 

i have mentioned before that at times cossack's words are counter productive and irresponsible.

 

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 02:21 PM

One more Mi-24 was shot down today.


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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:49 PM

One more Mi-24 was shot down today.

Looks like the Boy's have some MANPADS,they need some mortars and mines,make those Fascists pay.


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Posted 05 May 2014 - 07:13 PM

Chechen batallion joined Self-Defence.


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Posted 05 May 2014 - 07:24 PM

Woman. Slavyansk.

 

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 09:32 PM

Shot down Mi-24. Later ukro SU-24 bombed it, but Self-Defence had a time to remove ammo (cannon, mashine guns, missiles) from it

 

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 09:58 PM

Another helicopter Mi-8 was destroyed on the land.


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#28 vladzo

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 10:03 PM

Chechen batallion joined Self-Defence.

 

mr. USC :::::::::::

 

you are totaly incompetant when making reports.

 

? who is the chechen battallion of whom you speak? --- there may be two chechen batallions; one pro-moscow and one anti-moscow.

it is possible to "join" in combat with a faction; or against a faction --- you must learn to use a few more words to tell the complete thought.

? who is the "self-defence" of whom you speak? --- anyone may call themselves "self-defence" ; we must know who they are and what they are defending.

 

i volunteer to teach you how to speak with completeness.

 

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#29 vladzo

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 10:08 PM

Shot down Mi-24. Later ukro SU-24 bombed it, but Self-Defence had a time to remove ammo (cannon, mashine guns, missiles) from it

 

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please tell us who was using the Mi24, and how it was being used, and exactly who shot it down.

 

i volunteer to teach you how to make reports.

i am not interested in giving you special jobs which you do not know how to do - just to sabotage the pravda chat line.

 

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#30 USC

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 10:19 PM

I said you before - get lost.


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#31 vladzo

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 10:52 PM

I said you before - get lost.

 

Будь ласка, стерти ніс - ти  соплі гофрований дитини


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 07:01 AM

Убейся апстену.


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#33 vladzo

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 10:49 PM

HERE IS A VERY GOOD PLACE TO POST THIS MESSAGE.

 

It can not fight but will serve as a symbol of the struggle against the ukro-nazis.

 

***   http://www.youtube.c...KtCwUfFx-c#t=13   ***

 

THIS IS MORE OF A SYMBOL FOR PRESIDENT PUTIN AND THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT TO SEND SOME SORT OF HELP TO FIGHT AGAINST THE BLACK WATER MERCENARIES AND THE KIEV GANG NEO-NAZIS.

 

? who are the ukis that fight for the kiev gang, they are murdering their own people?

 

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#34 vladzo

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 10:59 PM

Убейся апстену.

 

this is not translatable on the google program

 

это не переводимые на программе Google.

 

це не переказуються на програмі Google.

 

ова не е преведување на Google програма.

 

ovo nije prevesti na google programa.

 

it is the word ."" апстену.""

 

please do learn to write in a language which others can understand.

 

we already have one asterix.

 

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 07:27 AM

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Arsen Avakov, the acting Ukrainian interior minister:
"The Ukrainian military will not shoot at civilians.
Our enemies use this to their advantage.
They hide behind civilians and fire at us."

Three thousand inhabitants of Kramatorsk have bid farewell to Yulia Izotova. Yulia was only 21, she had just graduated from a nursing school. When the Ukrainian army attacked Kramatorsk, an armored personnel carrier fired at the car she was riding in, together with three of her friends. Two 14.7mm bullets pierced the back seat and Yulia's body, killing her.


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Posted 07 May 2014 - 08:02 AM

The trash in Kiev and their handlers think they are some kind of stinking ubermensch.

Time to dispel that notion, NOW!!!

The war showed that fascists are delusional for thinking they are superior. Thar includes this ameriKKKan idea of exceptionalism, thinking they have the right to do and take whatever they want.
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Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:03 AM

Rest In Hell

 

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 06:14 PM

to all :::::::::::::::::

 

more information in regard to that heliocopter;;

 

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A stunning Ministry of Defense (MoD) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the United States has refused to repatriate the bodies of 13 Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) military operatives killed when their helicopters were shot down by pro-federalist forces on the outskirts of Slavyansk, eastern Ukraine this past Friday.

According to this report, on 2 May the Anti-Aircraft Artillery Battalion of the 25th Separate Dnipropetrovsk Airborne Brigade of the Ukrainian Army, which had defected to the side of the pro-federalists in April, fired upon and downed two Russian made Mil Mi-17 transport helicopters belonging to the Ukrainian Air Force that had been attempting to land CIA military “command and control” operatives into the battle zone of Slavyansk.

Of the 14 CIA military operatives aboard the two Mil Mi-17’s, this report continues, only one survived, who was initially identified as Captain Savuilov [photo 2nd left], but whose subsequent questioning revealed him to be an employee of the American mercenary company named Greystone Ltd.

Greystone Ltd, this report notes, states that it “provides the skilled professionals and program management services necessary to deliver rotary wing, protective security and training solutions to customers in challenging environments”, but had previously been warned about by Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov who stated last month: “There were reports, as you know, that some several hundreds of [agents from] the private military organization called Greystone were detected to arrive in Ukraine from the US. We'd like this also to be investigated.”

Sadly, this report says, this CIA/Greystone survivor of these two Mil Mi-17’s being shot down, like his 13 dead compatriots, was, likewise, abandoned, and as reported from the scene by a member of the self-defense forces in Slavyansk who stated: “His troops abandoned him. I thought they would take him away in another helicopter, but they just took his pistol from him and flew away.”

As to the CIA directing the war operations against pro-federalist forces in eastern Ukraine, this MoD report says, their remains no doubt as a representative from Slavyansk's self-defense movement reporting from the battle zone said, “When using radios, activists have heard English several times on the air…this is direct proof of the participation of foreigners in the retaliatory operations against Slavyansk.”

Germany’s highly influential Bild Newspaper this morning further confirmed the CIA operating in Ukraine, this report says, noting that in the middle of last month, CIA Director John Brennan arrived in Kiev on a top secret visit that Washington initially denied. The following day, Verkhovna Rada interim Speaker Alexander Turchynov announced a large-scale counter-terrorist operation in Ukraine's southeast.

As to the CIA’s “strategy” in eastern Ukraine, MoD analysts in this report note, is to instill complete terror among the peoples in this region as they and their Greystone counterparts are deploying feared Right Sector neo-Nazi forces into the battle zone that pro-federalist forces say are acting strangely, as if they are under the influence of some drugs.

To the success of this CIA “strategy”, this report says, one need look no further then the events in Odessa this past Friday when Right Sector forces firebombed the House of Trade Unions killing dozens of pro-federalist activists, but which the Western media is still refusing to allow their people to know the full and brutal knowledge of.

And with Vasyl Krutov, head of the Ukraine’s anti-terrorist center, stating earlier today that the increased fighting in the east did not appear to be short-term, but essentially a war,” this report warns, it “remains a fact” that the CIA will order more atrocities to occur as the Obama regime has done in all of their other war zones.

And as to the Obama regimes repeated “lies” that Russia is directing the pro-federalist forces in eastern Ukraine, this report concludes, even the New York Times was forced to admit yesterday that resistance fighters defending Slavyansk in eastern Ukraine are armed with weapons identical to those in the hands of Ukrainian soldiers, and they are all citizens of Ukraine.

And as quoted from the New York Times reporter, who spent a week at the headquarter of the 12th Company, part of People's Militia of the Donetsk People's Republic: “Much of their stock was identical to the weapons seen in the hands of Ukrainian soldiers and Interior Ministry special forces troops at government positions outside the city. These included 9-millimeter Makarov pistols, Kalashnikov assault rifles and a few Dragunov sniper rifles, RPK light machine guns and portable antitank rockets, including some with production stamps from the 1980s and early 1990s. Many of the weapons show signs of long service. Militia members said their weapons had either been taken from seized police buildings and a column of captured Ukrainian armored vehicles, or bought from corrupt Ukrainian soldiers.”

With forces in the east of Ukraine fighting for the federalization of the country having regained control over the cities and townships of Konstantinovka, Slavyansk, Andreyevka, and Kramatorsk today it, and sadly, remains a fact that more Americans will die in this conflict…but who will claim their bodies still remains a mystery.

Note: Additional articles to read explaining the Crisis In Ukraine include: Armageddon Warned Near As Russia Orders “All-Out War” On Petrodollar, Ukraine “Rape-Murder” Squads Approved By Obama Horrifies Russia, US Spy Drone Shot Down Over Northern Fleet Base Alarms Russia, “Prepare For Doomsday” Shock Russian Report Warns, Furious Putin Orders “Project Double Eagle” To Destroy US, EU Economies, Obama In Shock After US Oil Giant Sides With Putin; Declares “No Ukraine War”, Putin In “Fury” After Saudis Brand Obama Regime Terrorist Organization, Russia Warns Of American Deaths As Ukraine Crisis Spirals Out Of Control, Putin Orders Largest Air Defense Drill In History As War Fears Accelerate, Putin Orders Russian Troops And Ministries To Atomic Shelters Over NATO Threat Of War, 800,000 Ukrainian Refugees Flood Into Russia As Nazi Forces Continue Eastern March, Putin Sends Feared Shock Troops, Division Into Ukraine, Warns Obama Is “Unstable”, Putin Orders Military Alert To Defend Ukraine Against Western-Backed Fascists, Ukrainian Mob Call To “Kill All Jews” Horrifies Russia, Putin Orders Troops To Crimea Passes, Warns NATO Of War, Russian Threat Of War Over Ukraine Stuns Obama Regime, US In “Shock And Turmoil” After Snowden Info Lets Russia Tap Top Obama Officials

May 4, 2014 © EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com. Freebase content licensed under CC-BY and GFDL.

 

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#39 vladzo

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:33 PM

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here is a related article;

 

Why Russia Will Not Meddle in Eastern Ukraine
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For the time being, Russian leaders have decided not to stage an overt military intervention in southern and eastern Ukraine. If the Russian military had been involved at all in the region, it was minimal. Judging from the fighting in recent days, it is clear that the Russian-speaking insurgents in the Donbass region have only a small core of people with serious combat training. Russian nationalists play an important role in that core group, but they still hold ambiguous attitudes toward Russia itself.

Most likely, separatist leader Igor Strelkov, who is based in Slovyansk, is acting on his own. That is not an unusual character type among former Russian members of the siloviki. In fact, retired Main Intelligence Directorate Colonel Vladimir Kvachkov, who is serving an eight-year prison sentence for plotting a mutiny against Russia, fits this character profile. Such people often try to place themselves at the center of tumultuous events and aspire to be leaders of rebellious movements.

In eastern and southern Ukraine, there is no evidence of the highly trained and well-equipped "polite green men," who were seen during in Crimea in early and mid-March before the referendum was held there. The small core group of separatists in eastern and southern Ukraine is only equipped primitively and shows no clear signs that its members come from Russia.

It is likely that the insurgents seized the man-portable air-defense systems, or MANPADS, that they used on the first day of fighting during their disarmament of a division of the 25th brigade of the Ukrainian Navy. Apart from the few MANPADS, however, the insurgents are poorly trained and equipped, often carrying only hunting rifles and heavily outdated guns.

At most, the Russian Special Forces and FSB are probably monitoring the situation in southern and eastern Ukraine and possibly maintaining channels of communication with individual rebel leaders. Without this support, the poorly armed and trained Ukrainian troops would surely have faced much heavier losses when entering population centers. As proof, just recall what happened to the Russian Army during the first Chechen war in the mid-1990s.

Russia intends to closely monitor how much pressure Kiev applies to the separatist regions of Ukraine and likely limit itself to diplomatic demarches and lending propaganda support to the insurgents.

There are two obvious reasons for this. First, Moscow fears the large-scale economic sanctions that the U.S. and Germany have made clear they will impose in the event of a Russian military intervention in Ukraine. Second, Moscow has no desire to risk its economy over a large, economically distressed territory dominated by Ukrainians with ambivalent feelings toward Moscow.

It now seems that the Ukrainian government — despite its poor organization, low morale and lack of competency — is slowly tightening its encirclement of the insurgents, suffering setbacks and losses as it proceeds. It seems that the authorities in Kiev badly want to establish control over the rebellious territories in time to hold the presidential election on May 25, thereby giving it a semblance of legitimacy.

But it would be wrong to conclude that this indicates an imminent resolution to the crisis or an end to the confrontation between Russia and the West. Local residents will likely respond with anger to any military operation on their territories, and the tragedy in Odessa only reinforced those feelings. The Ukrainian state is standing on a powerful time bomb that will continue to threaten it for generations to come.

The prospects for Ukrainian state sovereignty were doubtful even before the current crisis. Following the ouster of former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, Ukraine was saddled with all of the problems usually associated with revolution — economic collapse, deep societal divisions, chaos and the loss of territory — without enjoying the benefit of at least installing a new leadership. All of the candidates for president and other key posts — including oligarch Petro Poroshenko and former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko — have long histories in Ukrainian politics. At various times in their political careers, they were linked to corruption, which means there is little hope their continued involvement would lead to significant improvements to the government or the economy.

There is no potential leader capable of accomplishing for Ukraine what former Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili did for Georgia. What is more, Saakashvili carried out his successful, although painful, reforms against the backdrop of the strong economic recovery that began when Eduard Shevardnadze was president. Ukraine is doomed to a protracted political crisis marked by an increasingly radical conflict over nationality, language and religion.

Russia, the European Union and the U.S. will likely become entangled in every new stage of the Ukrainian upheaval. Given the respective leaders' mutual distrust and their inability to compromise, the confrontation between them will only continue. In addition, Moscow's annexation of Crimea undermined U.S. authority so much that Washington now feels compelled to punish Russia and turn it into an international pariah. The West will impose both direct and indirect sanctions against Russia in stages and over a period of years. Although they will also hurt U.S. and European economies, they are in a better position to absorb the consequences.

Although Russia has not intervened militarily in eastern and southern Ukraine, it has not removed the threat of further sanctions. The Kremlin has merely bought a little time to prepare for the sanctions' impact by shifting economic, scientific, technical and other ties to Asia, trying to find substitutes for Western imports and taking measures to stabilize the financial sector.

Toward that goal, we can expect to see television images in the coming weeks showing "outsiders" in eastern Ukraine attacking and killing pro-Russian forces and civilians with the implication that U. S. President Barack Obama and German Chancellor Angela Merkel approve these measures. These images will leave an indelible mark on Russian public opinion and shape the country's political future for decades to come.

Vasily Kashin is an analyst with CAST, a Moscow-based think tank. This comment appeared in Vedomosti.

 

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 10:31 AM

Slavyunsk cat

 

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