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#41 aLibertarian

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 12:54 AM

khalida, if we keep arguing like this, we are going to have to start dating? lol, just kidding.

as for my education, you are right. in the sense of having a formal education i went as far as high school. i did actually goto college for awhile, but dropped out 'cause it was interfering with doing drugs and chasing the skirts around.

i don't know if it matters, but i graduated from a public(government) high school, with honors in both computers and construction at the age of 17, and by the time i was 19, i was living in Brazil, where i wrote a software application that rolled out the cell network for the entire country of brazil. i have an IQ that puts me in the top 1% percent of all humans, i know dozens of computer languages and several human ones, have trained in a half a dozen martial arts in several countries, and i have read enough books to fill a small library, which i have at my house, by the way.

i occassionally teach classes at Georgai Institute of Technology in their Department of Human and Computer Interaction, so they must not mind my lack of education too much.

nowadays, i spend my free time watching the news, learning even more martial arts, and trying to FREE the world from tyranny.

how 'bout you?

if we keep this up your going to have to send me a picture!

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#42 LifeisGood

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 12:57 AM

Khalida in America you could find the shoe's you are looking for. America, a girl's shopping Paradise.
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#43 aLibertarian

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 12:59 AM

correction of previous post:
Georgia is correct spelling

by the way, how many posts till im not a junior member?

and your right khalida, United Nations statistics are not to be trusted, those Interpol one look a little more realistic. hard to know who or what to trust these days.......

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#44 puzzledude

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 04:58 AM

Something that annoys me about Australia is the voting laws,
I have the right to vote, great! , but are we the only country in the world where voting's compulsory? where you are fined for not voting? any other country enforce this?
I'm not talking only every 3 or 4 years either.
Every election, Federal elections, state elections, right down to all the little council by elections, while I vote most of the time, there are times when I've given it a miss. I've been fined a total of $300 over the years for not voting, while I'm all for having the right to vote, I object to not having the right to abstain when I choose to do so.
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#45 Tokyoman

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 05:43 AM

Puzzledude,
You must be unlucky. I know plenty of people who didn`t vote and didn`t get fined. They might not have been on the electoral roll though. All you have to do is walk into the polling booth and draw a smiley face on the ballot instead of crossing/numbering it. Personally, I think compulsory voting is a good thing.
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#46 puzzledude

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 05:45 AM

Freedom means also having the right to abstain if & when I choose.
I choose to vote on issues that are important to me,
Most elections I have my say, occassionally It doesnt matter to me & in these times I strongly object to being fined.
A local council by election recently saw 2 people competing from the same party un opposed by anyone with an alternate view,
The only conflict between them was over which brand of cement to use for a foot path repair ffs.
A friend of mine who didnt vote refused to pay the fine & was jailed for 18 hours, freedom huh?
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#47 Tokyoman

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 06:06 AM

Have a look at this link about compulsory voting:

http://lachlan.blueh...ary_voting.html

Kind of funny and interesting, though he also argues against not voting.
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#48 puzzledude

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 06:17 AM

Thnx T man,
interesting read,

I've moved to a new area 5 times in the last 12 years,
Electoral commission have always turned up on my doorstep to register me within the month.
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#49 mataj

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 10:38 PM

Cars, shoes, shopping... that's totally unimportant, a trifle. BMHE, the only thing that matters about country are fellow citizens you can rely upon when shit hits the fan and everything goes to hell.
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#50 lolomarsei

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Posted 02 December 2004 - 03:56 PM

"i think its only fair to add the United States military budget to our foreign aid total, which makes us the top contributor. "


hi hi hi
GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY

hey, are you a provoker?
khalida, what do you think?
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#51 lolomarsei

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Posted 02 December 2004 - 04:16 PM

Originally posted by aLibertarian
lol, you should be a politician Khalida!

you have an innate ability to talk a whole lot without saying anything.

i challenged you to prove the statements that you made because they are not true.

sorry, i forgot to incluce this link in my last post

http://www.uncjin.or...S/trc000927.pdf

read that, which states that not only does Canada have a higer crime rate than the U.S. but that Denmark has one of the highest crime rates in the world.

i like to deal in facts Khalida, which you obviously are not concerned with. however, if you are as sexy as your picture, i just might forgive you. ;)

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#52 lolomarsei

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Posted 02 December 2004 - 04:31 PM

Originally posted by aLibertarian
khalida, tokyoman,

since ya'll seem to not want to counter any of the points i make, why don't you post a link or two of you own.

only a fool would believe the crime rate statistics gathered from Iraq considering the amount of crime the Iraqi government commits on its people.

Khalida, as a woman (if u r 1) you should be ashamed of yourself.

click on this link

above this caption is a picture of the actual business card, but you will have to click link to see why.

http://image.guardia...sierenglish.pdf

Excerpt:
"A Professional Rapist

Government personnel card of Aziz Salih Ahmed, identified as a 'fighter in the popular army' whose 'activity' is violation of women's honour' (i.e. professional rapist)

(source: the Iraq Research and Documentation Project, Harvard University)"

how can you address that. he has a professional rapist on the government payroll. i may be a crazy gun toting American, but damn't that in and of itself justifies a regime change. PLEASE ADDRESS THIS ONE KHALIDA. Are you justifying the institutionalized raping of women by the Iraqi government?????

you must of accidentally read Chile's stats incorrectly cause they are definitely higher.

as for Bolivia, they only reported for a couple of years, and interpol seems to suggest they fudged the numbers.

http://www.interpol....bolivia2000.pdf

i lived in South America for 6 months, this is just empircal data, but i witnessed a lot of crime. brutal crime. almost got myself killed a couple of times trying to protect the homeless and women.

also, as to murder and violent crime statistics

here is a link to the USA's

http://www.interpol....001/usa2001.pdf

here is a link to Denmarks

http://www.interpol....denmark2001.pdf

and here is France

http://www.interpol..../france2001.pdf

the only thing one can assume from such statistics, is that we all have problems. the variations are minute when you think of the scale. the United States has 5.61 murders per 100,000 people, Denmark has 3.72, and France has 3.91.

damn im good,

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LIAR

1 for one hundred thousands in france ( i speak about murders)

really, you should stop smoking grass and building false sites
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#53 Descartes

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Posted 08 December 2004 - 01:07 AM

the document to, supposedly, support your argument about Saddam Hussien has the opening remarks by Tony Blair....... ROTFLMAO... The islamic laws are very strict and the crime level per 1000 is low... please, don't use a dictator's actions to emphasise an argument that does not compare like with like...... but hey, torture in prisons, incarcerate without trials, kill innocent woman and children...... opps that sounds like Geo Bush....... Tyrant for Tyrant .. nobody has stoppped Geo Bush yet


Didn't you know the anagram of Tony Blair , Tony is short for Anthony.. there fore Mr A Blair become B A Liar... and that document supports and underlines that anagram.

You talk of Quality of Life but what criteria are you using.. the accepted is the freedom from illnes and the ability of society to treat and support victims.

The waffle about voting, freedom to practice martial arts. but you don't live in the home of martial arts..... slightly hypocritical.... or a society where there is no vote.

How much has each of you traveled, to base your opinion on Internet opinions, you use seven year old data for crime figures. .. the crime free island of Malta is ignored.... The food and drink of Paris, the fashion houses through out Europe, the climate of ....... well you can take your pick,
The hi tech society of Japan, the tranguility of the parts of China, the development of Beijing , the hospitality of Indian and Pakistani hosts, the luxury of Dubai, London for it's cosmopolitan life, Scotland for the best of whiskey and salmon... and friendliness.

Prague for the new found party life, Dublin for it's astonishing growth and ... humour, political arguments that will end in a toast and smile.....

And for the places I have missed out.. or forgotten to include.... there is no best, each makes a contribution , each has it's good and bad points.....

Where in the world can you find within a mile of the centre of government slums with the off licenses with steel reinforced doors, windows bricked up to stop anyone beaking in... Ohh, yes Washington DC.......

Where can you walk at night and have no fear of molestation ... Toronto......

You can argue the finer points but .. pause and have a look ..... nobody is perfect because the world is inhabited by humans. with all the imperfections.
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#54 Descartes

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Posted 08 December 2004 - 01:13 AM

Opps education... Finland has the best European figures.....
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#55 Charlie Vike

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Posted 01 February 2006 - 08:45 PM

Originally posted by Mae
Just to name a few:

Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, UK, Canada, Australia, Japan, Germany, Holland....

The list goes on an on


That's a matter of opinion, and from my perspective, it depends on what you value.

For what I value, it's the U.S.
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#56 woj1@cyberonic.

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Posted 02 February 2006 - 03:21 PM

I belongs to that people who believe that is not proper to talk appalling about dead.
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#57 northland

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Posted 04 February 2006 - 03:05 AM

Originally posted by aLibertarian
lol, thanks for the replies all.

chornyvolk says Canada, but gives no reasons. i'm not saying their country isn't great and all, but try and go see the doctor, or get an MRI. in America, if i want an MRI i can have it done this afternoon, whereas in Canada, with their ultra-socialist healthcare system, you have to wait at least a month, if your lucky.

Thanks for the poem Gordill, was beautiful. who wrote it, might i ask?

mataj says Slovenia, but also gives no reasons. honestly, i'll have to plea ignorance, don't know much, but would love to hear about Slovenia and what its like there.

khalida, you have made sweeping generalizations about the minds of my countrymen. i ask you how you know the thoughts and feelings of others, that is a neat trick. you also said if americans were more humble and had more interest in the world, we would know which things the other nations of the world do better than us.

IM ASKING YOU, Khalida. for the sake of argument lets say i don't know these things. Tell me one or two things other nations of the world do better than the United States of America.

you state 'many countries does better with many issues'. TELL ME ONE, specifics please.

and i, obviously, must not be one of these Americans you keep speaking of, 'cause i sure as hell know whats going on in the world, and am even now trying to broaden my awareness, as well as yours.

yo, Agnostic, while i dislike the Rebulicans, the Democrats are by far much more dangerous. i equate the Democrats with the Socialists/Communists and the Republicans with the Taliban. Since Democratic policies always equate to higher taxes, that makes them more dangerous than the silly Christians Republicans, who want us all to go to Church and not do drugs, have wild sex, or anything else the prudes disagree with.

Taxation is the basis for all power of every Government that has ever existed. Bigger taxes = bigger government = government has more resources to control your life.

your agnostic so your obviously an open minded dude, i am an atheist myself. you need to do a little more research into your political orientation, maybe look into libertarianism, sure beats the heck outta anything else out there.

nice tits azov. if yours really look anything like that we need to get together for a little conversation. wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what i mean, know what i mean. ;)

as for Australia, i never met an Aussie i didn't like. got no real problem with them, except of course the whole socialist bandwagon they are jumping on. oh yeah, and the fact that you can't own a GUN in Australia, which is about the stupidest friggin thing i have ever heard of. Australia also has the good fortune of not having to spend very much on their military budget, since the United States military keeps the world safe, thus leaving more money for them to spend on domestic things. of course, this is the case with all the democratic (i hate that word) countries of the world.


thanks again for ya'lls time, but TokyoMan is the only one who gave me any specific reasons.

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Yes you can get an MRI in the states this afternoon, for about 2000$US if you have that is. And in canada you might have to wait a bit longer, but in spite of all these negative comments our life expectancy is longer than yours. so what is your point???
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#58 Charlie Vike

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Posted 04 February 2006 - 04:42 AM

Originally posted by northland
Yes you can get an MRI in the states this afternoon, for about 2000$US if you have that is. And in canada you might have to wait a bit longer, but in spite of all these negative comments our life expectancy is longer than yours. so what is your point???



The fact of the matter is that your medical system, such as it is, is subsidized by ours. We essentially perform your R&D, and Canucks in need of speedy procedures don't wait---they cross the border to have the procedure performed.

The flaws in your system are concealed by the availabilty of prompt medical care in the U.S. It's that simple.
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#59 woj1@cyberonic.

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Posted 04 February 2006 - 09:50 PM

Along tail is apt to be stepped on.

The harder you beat the gong, the louder the sound.
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#60 northland

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Charlie Vike
The fact of the matter is that your medical system, such as it is, is subsidized by ours. We essentially perform your R&D, and Canucks in need of speedy procedures don't wait---they cross the border to have the procedure performed.

The flaws in your system are concealed by the availabilty of prompt medical care in the U.S. It's that simple.






In my opinion, personally i think you are full, of crap. It is IMO you are not only arrogant, you are ignorant of the facts. You condemn Canada on a basis of social issues yet we enjoy perhaps an even higher standard of living that of which you have. You should be grate ful that our bordering country is very stable and in the past has been open to amercanization. All your major corps are very well represented here and seem to be doing a thriving business. All the revenues are streamed back into the usa, let me remind you again that canada is basicall a resource based economy. You seem to to have no probs in taking all our natural resources to help benefit your country and yet you give no credit to whats always been your great neighbor to north. 38 of your 50 states, their number 1 trading nation is canada. So basically 35% of your economy depends on canada, let me also remind you that in the past 6 years, canada has become increasingly under criticism by people like you and the ultra conservative. canada is very open to capitalism but we resent imperialism! Continue to keep up your rhetoric, and piss on canada, and you know what will occur, more of our trade will be redirected to china and india, they seem to be very receptive to acquiring our resources, and as u can see arounf the world, their gov't refuse to criticize other regimres around the world. As time goes on with their long range planning they will emerge as dominant powers. might i suggest to you and your gov't to make a more conciliatory aprroach to your neighbor. If we can do no good, we will become less reliant on trade with whats becoming a terrorist nation to the south , IMO. It s up to you, we're getting somewhat tired of a superpower with a crybaby attitude. May thank you for all your aggression thru the world and the hate thats built up around the globe towards the USA. So far canada being a multi racial and cultural country has developed a great respect around the globe. we act as peacekeepers and so far in spite of your accusations how terrible it is here and seems it has nothing going for it, there have been no acts of terrorism here, so continue in your arrogant, ignorant, and self fulfilling attitude and may godspeed you well, lol.
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