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#1 MirrorMan

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 10:42 PM

If someone can smuggle a big bomb in the room Blair, Bush and Aznar will meet, the war can be prevented, and the lives of many thousands of Iraqis can be saved.
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Posted 14 March 2003 - 10:46 PM

I think the more pertinent question at this point is: "How can the war be started?"

Watching the statecraft being practiced by my leaders is a lot like watching monkeys try to phuck a football.
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Posted 14 March 2003 - 10:53 PM

Originally posted by MirrorMan
If someone can smuggle a big bomb in the room Blair, Bush and Aznar will meet, the war can be prevented, and the lives of many thousands of Iraqis can be saved.




Don't even need to do that, just kill Saddam with a single snipers bullet. One death instead of thousands. I can live with that.
I am hoping the evil SOB will have a heart attack before the Conflict kicks off.
That way no more Iraqi's, Americans or British Soldiers and Civilians need to die in this unjust conflict.
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Posted 14 March 2003 - 10:57 PM

Originally posted by piehunt
Don't even need to do that, just kill Saddam with a single snipers bullet. One death instead of thousands. I can live with that.
I am hoping the evil SOB will have a heart attack before the Conflict kicks off.
That way no more Iraqi's, Americans or British Soldiers and Civilians need to die in this unjust conflict.


If Saddam dies he will be replaced by one of his Son's.
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Posted 14 March 2003 - 11:04 PM

MirrorMan,
I disagree, I think the uprising that was tried just after `91 would resurface, only this time it would succeed when before it was crushed.
Iraqis fear Saddam, not his son's, cut the head off this beast and it won't grow another head. Besides do you think American or other nations in the ME would allow one of Saddams sons to take over power just like that? I don't!
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Posted 14 March 2003 - 11:05 PM

If Saddam dies he will be replaced by one of his Son's.

And that won't due.

Iraq is intended to be a steping stone into the rest of the Arab states.

The leadership of Iraq must be compliant, like in Afganistan. A puppet.

Killing Saddam will stop nothing.

The calls for him to step down are a ruse. They are gambling that he won't. If he did, and was replaced by a regime potentialy hostile to the expansion of Israel, we would still go in. In fact I think no matter what we are going in.

Even if the leaders at this meeting were to keel over, it would stop nothing. They are puppets.
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Posted 14 March 2003 - 11:08 PM

...Once their job is over.

The SERBIAN leader got hit on March 12th/03 -- Heads-of-States/PUPPETS-of-STATES are a dime a dozen.
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Posted 14 March 2003 - 11:10 PM

Gary North's REALITY CHECK
Issue 223 March 14, 2003


HOW TO KEEP THE WAR FROM STARTING

It is clear that the United States will invade Iraq
within the next few days. Jockeying for position in the
United Nations Security Council may delay things a bit, as
would a decision by Turkey to take another vote regarding
the use of Turkey as a base by American troops. But the
war is going to take place.

The war needn't take place. It could be stopped by a
few phone calls. Let me describe the scenario of peace.

The senior decision-makers of the Saud family call an
emergency meeting. They meet together in private, discuss
the situation, and gain agreement to issue this statement:

Upon the invasion of Iraq by the United States,

1. The nation of Saudi Arabia will withdraw all
of its deposits in American banks.

2. These deposits will not be transferred to
commercial banks in those nations that vote
with the United States in the Security
Council.

3. Saudi Arabia will henceforth sell oil for
euros. Dollars will no longer be accepted.

The head of the Saudi central bank would then call the
head of the Bank for International Settlements in Basle.
He tells the BIS's senior representative that this
statement will be issued to the wire services within three
hours unless the Saudi head of state hears from President
Bush personally, assuring him that the troops will begin
being removed from Kuwait within two days. The BIS is also
told that if American troops should leave the compound
where they are stationed in Saudi Arabia, the statement
will be released to the wire services immediately, and the
withdrawal of Saudi funds will begin.

Within 30 minutes Alan Greenspan would call President
Bush and explain things to him. Eddie George would call
Tony Blair at the same time.

If the Saudi head of state gets no phone call from Mr.
Bush, he then issues the statement to the news wire
services. Simultaneously with this announcement, the Saudi
foreign minister begins calling the heads of all other oil-
exporting Middle Eastern nations to line up joint support.
Also, the head of the Saudi central bank begins calling the
heads of all other Arab central banks, starting with the
oil-exporters. The callers will remind the listeners of
the probable consequences of a TV broadcast on al-Jazeera
regarding those heads of state that refused to cooperate
with Saudi Arabia in challenging the invasion of an Arab
country. The words "Serbian Prime Minister" will be used
discreetly.

By the third phone call, the dollar would be lock-
limit down in America's domestic currency futures markets.
The margin calls would go out.

If the other oil-exporting Arab nations (excluding
Kuwait and possibly Qatar) were then to issue their own
statements to this effect, by the end of the day, Colin
Powell would be holding a press conference praising the
progress that Hans Blix's UN inspection team has
accomplished so far, and denying any suggestion that his
reversal of opinion has anything to do with the fact that
the dollar was down against the euro by 15% for the day in
foreign markets.

For my scenario to work, there would have to be
cooperation within the Arab League. But the phrase, "Arab
League," has been the supreme political oxymoron of the
last eighty years. The rival clans that make up the Arab
League agree only on one thing: the Palestinians inside
their borders must eventually return to Palestine.

This war is about oil. It's also about the
international value of the dollar. Iraq a year ago began
selling oil only for euros. Had the other Middle Eastern
oil-exporting states followed suit, there would be no war
clouds today.

All of this is obvious, or should be. But people
refuse to discuss the obvious in public. What is obvious
is that individual oil-exporting Arab nations are acting as
income-seeking individuals, not as members of a regional
cartel that has the ultimate lever of power in
international markets. In a world that runs on oil, Arab
politicians are in it only for the money. Some of them are
named in honor of Muhammed, but not one of them thinks the
way he did. He understood strategy. They don't.

The day that America invades Iraq, the Friends of
Osama will figure this out, once and for all. The pace of
recruiting will escalate. Their targets will include the
existing power structure of the oil-exporting Arab nations.

What happened in Serbia on March 12 is a taste of
things to come. The Friends of Osama will become the
region's 800-pound guerilla.

Meanwhile, back in the Security Council. . . .



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#9 MirrorMan

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