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#1 bishadi

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 03:35 PM



Rivlin has surprised many Israelis and outside observers by his frequent emphasis on democratic values. I believe there should be a Jewish state because the Jewish people have no other state, he says. At the same time, I cannot live in a Jewish state that is not democratic.

Democracy is a Jewish value, says Rivlin. There is no conflict between Jewish ideas and democratic ideas. Zionism means we have to solve the problem of how to live together in a Jewish and a democratic state.


This is from http://jpupdates.com...ly-as-religion/

Rivlin: Israel Has Right to Define Itself as Nation, Not Only as Religion


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This is how information ruins a political difference. The terms and words within the article are irresponsibly used.

Judaism is from Torah and defines 'personal responsibility' as the core to the whole of the religion.

Israel is not a 'people' but a place, a state.

Judaism is not a people, nor a person. Judaism is a religion that is learned, in all cases.

Zionism is the pursuit of the gold domed spot of the old city Jerusalem, to build a 'temple mount'. The whole of 'zionism' is central to that location and why israel is even in Palestine, right now. See "red heifer sacrifice", atonement ashes, messiah, temple mount institute . com. See rabbi glick or even caroline glick (the writer of J Post) on the comments.



Judaism is about adhering to the commandments. Learn, write and to await. The side that is in pursuit of a location to sacrifice animals, are not Jewish adherent. The divergence is that 'jews' are humble to sustain personal responsibility, while the opposing expect to be given the name of god by a messiah, upon completing 'temple mount'. What occurred is 1 side is humble to await the unveiling, the other is under the guise of inheritance rights and that they are 'chosen ones'.

To clarify: each person born conscious can choose to be a good 'who' by sustaining the rules. No one can deny that and the side believing that they are born to rule, lead and expectation, are misleading mankind, just as you are witnessing from the news article of the guest author.


Rivlin is being quoted but I cannot verify them and likewise, the redefining of the terms, words, beliefs and even 'democracy' is that 'anti'. Anti as being against what is real, the truth. The reason is the true underlying purpose of israel within Palestine is that temple mount and if the world, realized that, it would have been over decades ago.


Setting a standard is what should be established.


Is there any information within this article that helps?
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#2 Shura

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 08:17 PM

No matter how you define Zionism, it is the same as Fascism, Wahabbism and any other -ism


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Posted 23 April 2015 - 10:07 PM

Does that include bicameralism, communism, socialism and federalism?
 
Did I leave out any?
 
 
Either way, no ism for you................ ?
 
 
Do you know if 'personal responsibility' has an 'ism'?
 
As much as the religious nuts may want to claim the rules of personal responsibility came from Judaism, I am quite certain them rules were in the Book of the Dead, well before Judaism even existed.  Likewise, there is Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism  even zoroateriansm.
 
Is humanism OK?   (defined: Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over established doctrine or faith.
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Posted 24 April 2015 - 12:59 AM

Does that include bicameralism, communism, socialism and federalism?
 
Did I leave out any?
 
 
Either way, no ism for you................ ?
 
 
Do you know if 'personal responsibility' has an 'ism'?
 
As much as the religious nuts may want to claim the rules of personal responsibility came from Judaism, I am quite certain them rules were in the Book of the Dead, well before Judaism even existed.  Likewise, there is Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism  even zoroateriansm.
 
Is humanism OK?   (defined: Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over established doctrine or faith.

Are you telling me that Zionism is different fascism and Wahabbism? If you are you are full of SH*T


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Posted 24 April 2015 - 01:09 AM

Well it is a bit different than the cult of personality Putinism or Kim Jong Unism that dies with the guy.

Of course, both are like Priaprism and become painful after awhile and you take measures to make them go away.
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#6 Shura

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Posted 24 April 2015 - 01:15 AM

Well it is a bit different than the cult of personality Putinism or Kim Jong Unism that dies with the guy.

Of course, both are like Priaprism and become painful after awhile and you take measures to make them go away.

If you can do that Mandy, you are the man for the job. Some of us who are much older and have been through this bullshit know it is a disease that won't go away, and US is catching at a fast pace


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#7 bishadi

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Posted 24 April 2015 - 03:28 PM

Are you telling me that Zionism is different fascism and Wahabbism? If you are you are full of SH*T


absolutely!

Zionism is about 'temple mount' and inheritance rights. Note the australian rich guy that bought the house next door to Netanyahu, Packer.

He is not jewish but he is considered a Zionist.

My previous post was when you called all isms as bad, I pointed out that you are living an ism yourself and you put your foot in your own mouth, again.

I asked you questions, but as ooooosual, your racism and bigotry is blinded by your hate for israel.

Have you even read that my focus of the OP was for solutions? I figure that by educating people (idiots like you) on personal responsibility and correctly using words and terms, that much of the dissent can be corrected by sustaining an understanding to the dialogue.
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Posted 24 April 2015 - 03:29 PM

If you can do that Mandy, you are the man for the job. Some of us who are much older and have been through this bullshit know it is a disease that won't go away, and US is catching at a fast pace


the reason is people like you and that's for shura!
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#9 Shura

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Posted 24 April 2015 - 09:08 PM

the reason is people like you and that's for shura!

No, Pissadi it is garbage like yourself who murder and torture and try to justify it. Typical Khazar piece of s**t


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