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Posted 02 January 2016 - 10:49 AM

CALL TO ACTION: All able-bodied men and women come to Burns, Oregon on or before January 2nd.  Come prepared and be willing to stand.
 
 
Dear Friends, 

**Some significant correspondence about the sentiment of making a strong stand in Harney County**
 
Ammon Bundy - Dec. 23, 2015
The Hammonds have been put in prison as terrorists for prescribed burns on their ranch. They did their time as unjust as it was. Now the federal government is putting them back in prison for the same thing, for 5 years. The federal government forced the Hammond's to sign the sale of their ranch to the BLM, and have fined them $400,000. The Feds are also making the Hammond's get permission from them if they buy or sale anything over $500. Pure tyranny and the people are going to make a stand against it on Saturday, Jan 2nd.
 
Ammon Bundy - Dec. 26, 2015
My Friend, I just got off the phone with Dwight and Suzie, flowers in their front yard will not help them. The Hammonds do not want a funeral. They want us to make a difference. I am holding back my emotions with you and your organization. Our rights are being stripped from us.  This county is suffering.  Good men are going to prison so wicked men can gain power and control.  The constitution is being grossly violated, and you want to have a little walk and present flowers. I, and those that follow, WILL be flipping coins on the County yard. We intend to stand against these violations and not allow them to become the normal. Our actions will be recorded in history, the truth always reveals itself. Please read the Declaration of Independence as soon as you can, it may do some good.
 
Ammon Bundy - Dec. 26, 2015
My Friend, You know that I am not the only one that gives a damn, and I do believe that there is a right way and detrimental ways to this very delicate situation. Let me lay out some of the facts of the "alternative solution" or "avenues that have been exhausted" so you do not accuse me again of being rash.
 
The Hammonds are being punished for a fire they started over 15 years ago, they have spent upwards to $1,000,000 in their legal defense.  They have exhausted all their avenues in the federal court system. They have used up every bit of emotion and will they possessed. (From what I'm being told, the Hammonds at one time were valiant fighters for what is right). Many cannot believe they have given up. But the system has broken them. The Hammonds have exhausted prudence over many years.  They are the epitome of what Americans will become if the system is allowed to ruin all of us.
 
In addition, a rally of the community of over 500 people assembled in protest for the Hammonds, they were clear, loud and poignant. This effort was ignored by any and all in the federal system, in-fact they gave the Hammonds even greater punishment than anyone expected.
 
In addition, the Oregon Farm Bureau collected over 8000 petitions; these petitions were ignored and did not make a difference. Not one local or federal official took notice, not one responded in any way. Many articles and documents have been drafted expressing the injustice of these matters. Many people have commented and responded to those articles, many have written their Congressmen and other elected officials, yet those in the system still did not respond in anyway.
 
All of this happened before I even knew about the Hammonds. Laying in bed, I was told to get involved. I had no desire before then to take on someone else's battle. Since that time I have written more than 30 letters to different individuals of influence. Many other influential people have written directly to federal and other officials asking them to get involved in ending these gross abuses. All petitions have been ignored. I have yet to hear of any of these individuals even getting a reply letter.
 
Further, many others and myself have personally met with many officials asking them to get help in standing against these injustices. To the dis-heartment of those asking our petitions have been ignored. Thousands of emails were written to Sheriff Ward asking him to simply go to the Hammonds home, spend time with them, go to the ranch and go to where the fires happened, get a true perspective on what is really going on. The Sheriff has yet to even go 4 blocks down the street from his office to Dwight & Susie's home. He had not even met the Hammonds until Ryan & I set up a meeting at his office with them. He has never been out to the Hammonds ranch and has not been to where the fires took place. Yet he has drove all the way to Pendleton to spend a day or two with Frank Papagni and has spent many, many hours talking with the FBI about how they are going to combat those supporting the Hammonds.
 
In addition, thousands of emails were written to State representatives asking them to meet with the Hammonds and go to the ranch and fires, to get a correct perspective and get involved. All of these petitions have been ignored, not one elected representative visited the Hammonds or have been to the ranch or have gone to where the fires took place.
 
There have been countless communications, messages and emails back and forth about the Hammond case. I, myself, have spent hundreds of hours speaking with groups and individuals about the details of the Hammond case. I have been on over 40 radio broadcasts in the last 7 weeks explaining the direct violations of human rights towards the Hammonds. Hundreds of thousands have become aware of the details of the Hammonds case across the continent and have express distaste for the injustice.
 
After all of these petitions were ignored a legal Notice - Redress of Grievance was drafted listing all the egregious abuses and insisting that the County and the State officials assemble an Evidential Hearing Board. This Notice was sponsored by sound organizations across the west and tens of thousands of people put their name to it. We gave the State and County officials ample time to reply.  By law, they are required to respond. Still to this day they have not responded in anyway. They have completely ignored. Judge Grasty said; "those that signed it were all "crazies" and not from Oregon". The fact is that people from every State in the Union put their name to it (including Hawaii and Alaska) but Oregon was represented by the most. You, yourself, a resident of Oregon put your name to it and so did the Oregon Constitutional Guard. Are you all "crazy" as Judge Steven Grasty said?
 
In addition, many town meetings have been organized and in one of those meetings the people assembled a Committee of Safety. The county, state and federal representative have openly mocked the committee and the people of Harney County in this effort, belittling the people's efforts to protect themselves as illegitimate.
 
There have been acts and petitions that I could never have time to list that have supported and disclosed the injustices that are taking place in this case. An unbelievable amount of effort has been exhausted in prudent methods to correct the wrong that have come upon the Hammonds. When will it be enough? Should we go on forever because we are afraid to do what is our right to do? What will happen to the Constitution and individual rights if we allow these violations to go on without challenge?
 
Please Read the Notice: Redress of Grievance -  
http://holdingblock.blogspot.com/2015/12/we-people-united-individuals-of-these.html 

Hammond Family Facts & Events- http://holdingblock....ml?view=classic
 
BLM Destroys Ranches by Fire- https://youtu.be/KHyZQrMZ7lA
 
Ammon Bundy   

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 10:15 PM

Stewart Rhodes has issued the official Oath Keepers statement regarding the Hammond family at Burns, Oregon. This article is online in full at Oath Keepers national. This email only contains a small fraction of the article. Read it all here:
 

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 Stewart Rhodes: The Hammond Family Does NOT Want an Armed Stand Off, and Nobody Has a Right to Force One On Them

 
 
BECAUSE THE HAMMOND FAMILY DOES NOT WANT AN ARMED STAND OFF, AND THEY WISH TO TURN THEMSELVES IN, OATH KEEPERS WILL NOT TAKE PART IN ANY ATTEMPT TO CREATE A STAND OFF IN BURNS, OREGON....


WRITTEN STATEMENT ON HAMMOND SITUATION:
 
I regret having to even make this statement, but I have no choice, since Ammon Bundy has not made it sufficiently clear to the patriot community that the Hammond family has declined physical armed help, and by all indications does NOT want any kind of armed stand off with the Federal government, and they do NOT want anyone to attempt to protect Dwight and Steven Hammond from being taken into Federal custody on Monday, January 4, 2016 when they are scheduled to turn themselves in to serve additional time for their felony convictions (which came after a jury found them guilty).   They intend to voluntarily turn themselves in and serve out the remainder of their sentence, under federal minimum sentencing statutes, after losing in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals on that issue.  In fact, they have made it very clear, through a public statement by their lawyer, in a letter to the Sheriff dated December 11, 2015, that:
Neither Ammon Bundy nor anyone in his group/organization speaks for the Hammond Family, Dwight Hammond or Steven Hammond.  In addition, I wish to report to you that, as recently ordered by the District Court, District of Oregon, Dwight Hammond and Steven Hammond intend to voluntarily report to the designated federal facility on January 4, 2016, as required.

[ .... ]

(Stewart Rhodes continuing)

"We cannot force ourselves or our protection on people who do not want it.   Dwight and Steven Hammond have made it clear, through their attorney, that they just want to turn themselves in and serve out their sentence. And that clear statement of their intent should be the end of the discussion on this.  No patriot group or individual has the right or the authority to force an armed stand off on this family, or around them, against their wishes.  You cannot help someone who does not want your help, and who are not willing and ready to take a hard stand themselves.
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For Stewart's full article, including three embedded videos please click

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....and don't forget to leave your comments under the article.
 
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Posted 03 January 2016 - 02:25 PM

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 05:36 PM

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 09:50 PM

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 10:58 PM

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 12:38 AM

Obama Wanted War: Now 150 Armed Militia Have Seized a Federal Building In Oregon
Sunday, January 3, 2016 3:38
 
 
 
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On Friday, in a post titled, Carol Bundy Issues a Call to Arms For Militia Around the Country to Join The Hammond Family in Burns, Oregon For a Showdown With the Feds, I expressed my grave concerns about the potential for something awful to happen at an armed protest that was scheduled for yesterday at 2pm. The good news is the protest went well. The not such good news is that a group of around 150 armed militia took over a federal building and say they are willing to die if they don’t get their demands met. Their demands I might add, are that this leviathan of a federal government stop infringing on their rights… the rights granted to them by the Bill of Rights, and the rights Barack Obama continues to trample. As Americans, we best pray this situation cools down REAL quickly, and IF it does, then before an all out uprising or civil war breaks out, it’s time to have Barack Obama removed from office, and tried for his crimes. Although I have no reason to suspect this will end quickly or quietly, I pray that it does. 

Here’s the problem: Even if it does miraculously end quickly and without bloodshed, it won’t be long before there’s another incident like it. Why? Presently there are roughly 100 million Americans who own a total of about 300 million guns. They own them legally, they pose no threat to anyone, and they are sick and tired of the un-American, Christian hating, lawless, treasonous thug in the White House who insists on provoking them by violating their inalienable rights as laid out in the Bill of Rights. There’s a good reason Over 1 In 4 Americans Now Believe the U.S. Government is the Enemy of the People, and in a recent poll, 1/3 of Americans Said They Would Support a Military Coup to Oust Barack Obama. People are SICK of the hypocrisy coming out of Washington D.C. and the White House. It’s nauseating. 

While Obama lectures law abiding Americans about guns, it’s HIM that’s breaking our laws at will. Even his own appointee as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, General Michael Flynn, has come forward and accused Obama of outright TREASON. Flynn, and several other very high ranking members of the military have accused Obama outright of, “Knowingly and Willingly Arming ISIS.“ More recently, last week the CIA Revealed its Findings that Both Barack and Hillary Funded and Armed ISIS (Video). ISIS is our ENEMY! One IS the President, and the other is running for President. That is TREASON, it is unacceptable, and it makes BOTH unfit to hold office. 

The events currently unfolding in Oregon are no more than a mere symptom of a much larger problem. If you don’t understand the problem, than you are part of the problem. Gun and ammo sales every week confirm what I am saying. Americans are sick and tired of being talked down to by the jackass in the oval office, as well as the rest of the DC cartel. They all need to be reminded, ESPECIALLY Obama, they are servants of the people, not the other way around, something Obama simply is incapable of grasping. Contrary to his beliefs, he is not a God. For anyone not paying attention, Obama and the UN Have Recently “Declared” Themselves Above the U.S. Constitution, are and are proceeding ahead accordingly with plans that are not in the best interests of the Americans people.

Don’t take my word for it, you can download the documents right from the U.N. in the highlighted post, and read them for yourself. Furthermore, It’s not just the U.N. acting contrary to the interests of American sovereignty. Recently, while most of us were busy celebrating the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ, and spending time with our families during the Christmas holidays, guess what Obama’s band of clapping seals were doing? In the House of Representatives, Democrats were focused on the most important issue to Barack Obama: Pushing a Massive Bill to Implement Sharia Law In U.S. For the Well-Being of Muslims.

Barack Obama has done irreparable damage to this country, and it’s time for him to answer for his crimes. Thomas Jefferson once said, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” well, right now, there are 150 patriots holed up in a federal building, and there is one tyrant in the White House. Hey Barry, “No justice, no peace.” Americans want justice. Resign. 

Militia Have Seized Federal Building in Oregon

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YOU WANT PROOF OF HOW DIABOLICAL OBAMA IS?

Listen to the President’s New Years Resolution, specifically the part about how if we can “just keeping one more person safe,” then whatever illegal action he takes will be worth it. Then, replay the video and replace gun violence with radical Islamic terrorists. All of a sudden the exact arguments this sociopath makes for guns is out the window for terrorism. In other words: He’s full of crap, and the American people are on to him. THAT is how you know this president could CARE LESS about keeping people safe. He just wants the guns. Dispute that. Good luck.

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Oregon Live reports:

Update at 9:15 p.m.: Statement from Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward: “After the peaceful rally was completed today, a group of outside militants drove to the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, where they seized and occupied the refuge headquarters. A collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution. For the time being please stay away from that area. More information will be provided as it becomes available. Please maintain a peaceful and united front and allow us to work through this situation.”

The Bundy family of Nevada joined with hard-core militiamen Saturday to take over the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, vowing to occupy the remote federal outpost 50 miles southeast of Burns for years.

The occupation came shortly after an estimated 300 marchers — militia and local citizens both — paraded through Burns to protest the prosecution of two Harney County ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr. and Steven Hammond, who are to report to prison on Monday.

Among the occupiers is Ammon Bundy, son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, and two of his brothers. Militia members at the refuge claimed they had as many as 100 supporters with them. The refuge, federal property managed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, was closed and unoccupied for the holiday weekend.

In phone interviews from inside the occupied building Saturday night, Ammon Bundy and his brother, Ryan Bundy, said they are not looking to hurt anyone. But they would not rule out violence if police tried to remove them, they said.

“The facility has been the tool to do all the tyranny that has been placed upon the Hammonds,” Ammon Bundy said.

“We’re planning on staying here for years, absolutely,” he added. “This is not a decision we’ve made at the last minute.”

Neither man would say how many people are in the building or whether they are armed. Ryan Bundy said there were no hostages, but the group is demanding that the Hammonds be released and the federal government relinquish control of the Malheur National Forest.

He said many would be willing to fight — and die, if necessary — to defend what they see as constitutionally protected rights for states, counties and individuals to manage local lands. 

“The best possible outcome is that the ranchers that have been kicked out of the area, then they will come back and reclaim their land, and the wildlife refuge will be shut down forever and the federal government will relinquish such control,” he said. “What we’re doing is not rebellious. What we’re doing is in accordance with the Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land.” 

Government sources told The Oregonian/OregonLive that the militia also was planning to occupy a closed wildland fire station near the town of Frenchglen. The U.S. Bureau of Land Management posts crews there during the fire season.

Law enforcement officials so far have not commented on the situation. Oregon State Police, the Harney County Sheriff’s Office and the FBI were involved.

Ammon Bundy posted a video on his Facebook page calling on patriots from across the country to report to the refuge – with their weapons. That video can be seen below:

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The dramatic turn came after other militia groups had tried to dampen community concerns they meant trouble.

Brandon Curtiss, a militia leader from Idaho, told The Oregonian/OregonLive he knew nothing about the occupation. He helped organize Saturday’s protest and was at the Harney County Fairgrounds with dozens of other militia for a post-parade function. Another militia leader, BJ Soper, took to Facebook to denounce the occupation.

The occupation is being led by hard-core militia who adopted the Hammond cause as their own.

Ammon Bundy met with Dwight Hammond and his wife in November, seeking a way to keep the elderly rancher from having to surrender for prison. The Hammonds professed through their attorneys that they had no interest in ignoring the order to report for prison.

Ammon Bundy said the goal is to turn over federal land to local ranchers, loggers and miners. He said he met with 10 or so residents in Burns on Friday to try to recruit them, but they declined.

“We went to the local communities and presented it many times and to many different people,” he said. “They were not strong enough to make the stand. So many individuals across the United States and in Oregon are making this stand. We hope they will grab onto this and realize that it’s been happening.” 

Among those joining Bundy in the occupation are Ryan Payne,  U.S. Army veteran, and Blaine Cooper. Payne has claimed to have helped organize militia snipers to target federal agents in a standoff last year in Nevada. He told one news organization the federal agents would have been killed had they made the wrong move.

He has been a steady presence in Burns in recent weeks, questioning people who were critical of the militia’s presence. He typically had a holstered sidearm as he moved around the community.

At a community meeting in Burns Friday, Payne disavowed any ill intent.

“The agenda is to uphold the Constitution. That’s all,” he said.

Cooper, another militia leader, said at that meeting he participated in the Bundy standoff in Nevada.

“I went there to defend Cliven with my life,” Cooper said.

Ian K. Kullgren of The Oregonian/OregonLive contributed to this report.

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Most Americans have no idea how close the standoff at Bundy Ranch came to being an all-out bloodbath. As you’ll see in the video below, it was a miracle no shots were fired, because you’ll hear it straight from a member of the BLM, that they was given the green light to fire on the militia, and as you’ll see there were women and children there. The video is about 7 minutes, and by the 6th minute, when you see what happened, your stomach will be in your throat. Common sense dictates that having armed and angry citizens around armed agents of an abusive federal agency has all the makings of a disaster. It will be a miracle if events in Oregon end well. Take a look:

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Conservative Tribune writes:

A militia just took over a federal building in Oregon.  Three of the 150 militia members are sons of notorious Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy.

They are occupying the headquarters building at the Malhuer National Wildlife Building to keep local ranchers our of prison.  The building is 50 miles outside of Burns, Oregon.

The militia is reportedly heavily armed.

The militia members are upset that 2 ranchers, Dwight and Steve Hammond, were charged under anti-terrorism laws. The Hammonds were set to report to prison on Monday.

The militia believe the Hammonds were illegally prosecuted because they claim the federal government does not have authority at the county level.

According to the Washington Examiner, Ammon Bundy said “This facility has been the tool to do all the tyranny that has been placed upon the Hammonds.”

Cliven Bundy gained national popularity among patriots who rejected the growing overreach of Barack Obama’s federal government.  He dug his heels in during an armed standoff with federal officials from the Bureau of Land Management.

Early Saturday, the Bundy family and 300 protesters marched through Burns before taking over the federal refuge.

An unnamed investigative reporter claimed that Ammon Bundy intends to use the refuge as a headquarters for the militia for the foreseeable future.

Bundy also has issues a call to sympathetic citizens to join in his efforts and come to the area, according to the Washington Examiner.

Ammon Bundy has not yet used any violence. But he said say he will not rule it out if law enforcement officials try to intervene.

Bundy claims in the video above, which he posted on December 31, 2015 that God told him to go to Oregon.

We fully support the right of patriots to protest and fight injustice but we hope that any issues can be resolved without violence or bloodshed.

 

Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s three sons and around 150 militia members occupied a federal building in eastern Oregon on Saturday, in an attempt to keep two local ranchers from going to prison. The group seized the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters, located around 50 miles (80km) from Burns, after two of its members were scheduled to go to prison on Monday for setting fire to federal land. 

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KEEP IN MIND WHAT OBAMA HAS DONE TO FEDERAL AGENCIES:

DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE LOADS UP ON BODY ARMOR???

U.S. POST OFFICE WAS ANNOUNCING A GIANT AMMO PURCHASE 

THE I.R.S. GETS THEIR OWN S.W.A.T. TEAM?

EPA GETS THEIR OWN S.W.A.T. TEAM

SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION GETS THEIR OWN S.W.A.T. TEAM

DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION STOCKPILING FIREARMS AND AMMO.

FOOD & DRUG ADMIN. BUYS NIGHT VISION SUB MACHINE GUNS

D.H.S. MOST RECENT PURCHASE: 6 BILLION HOLLOW POINT BULLETS


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Posted 05 January 2016 - 12:47 AM

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 02:08 AM

Please translate, from Spanish into English: https://actualidad.r...egon-entregarse


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Posted 05 January 2016 - 11:15 AM

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 08:13 PM

We have a journalist on the ground in Oregon, and he's reporting that the feds have taken over local schools to use them as staging areas for a massive armed assault.

It also turns out there are women and children inside the federal compound, meaning that if the feds attack, they will be slaughtering entire families of private citizens.

BLM, the federal agency that sets brush fires all the time as "controlled burns," charged the Hammon family with arson under an anti-terrorism law for doing the exact same thing.

The Hammonds turned themselves in yesterday to federal officials, and now face FOUR YEARS more prison time (they already served their original sentence, but the feds wanted to send them to prison TWICE!)

Click here for the latest shocking details on this grave injustice.

P.S. It's astonishing just how many insane people on the left are calling for the federal government to slaughter these protesters in cold blood. Chilling...


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Posted 05 January 2016 - 08:22 PM

The third vid after the article is short and POWERFUL.  This guy says it SO WELL:
 

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 12:08 PM

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URGENT Warning on OR Standoff: Military Special OP Assets Have Been Assigned for Standoff. Get All Children Out of There Immediately
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Posted 06 January 2016 - 08:04 PM

From whistleblower ex-NSA officer's site: Here is real word from the Oregon standoff This is the real deal, so I figured I'd post it in full, especially since it says exactly what I said - that this was all set up by the government and false truthers.

From Christian Yingling:

Ok ...Everybody... please gather around and listen to what I am about to say..Then either shut your mouth, or share this far and wide. If you have ANY faith in me as a leader you will heed what I am about to say. If not..I want nothing to do with you. simple as that.

The key to victory in any battle is the ability to remain calm in any given situation. What we are seeing right now is a whole bunch of people acting based solely on raw emotion. This is very bad and I'm about to explain exactly why. I am not letting my emotions make my decisions for me, but instead, looking at this from a calm, level headed, common sense approach.

What you are all witnessing right now right now in Oregon has the makings of a full on false flag event. And I will prove that to you to the absolute best of my ability. Should you choose to look at this from a logical perspective you will see I am 100% correct. Some of what I will tell you is speculation based on my own experience and experiences of others I have talked to throughout this ordeal, but most of what I am going to tell you is documented verifiable fact.

Back during the Bundy situation, Ryan Payne declared himself the unofficial "leader" of the militias present at the Bundy ranch. Nothing could have been further from the truth. In fact, none of the militias listened to him at all. The ONLY ones who listened to him were the Bundy's, Blaine Cooper, who Payne claimed was a "professional security consultant', who turned out to be nothing more than an ex con, and buddah bear (nice name) who he also claimed was a "professional security consultant", but was later discovered to be nothing more than a tattoo artist thug. The militias ignoring these three, is precisely why that situation didnt turn into a blood bath. (strangely enough all three are present at the refuge)

I and Scott Woods were asked on one occasion, by Payne to go and destroy BLM equipment in the middle of the night. We refused, stating that that's not why we were there. We were there solely to defend the family. That very same night he rushed off in a car with a loaded AR to START a violent altercation with LEOs who supposedly had pulled over members of the Armenian Militia off exit 10 near the ranch. This report was never vetted nor was it looked into before he rushed off. It is also well documented that Payne had tried to incite other militia members to start violent altercations with the authorities who were present there. all of which were refused by militia members..all for the same reason...we were NOT there to start a fight...but to DEFEND the family. When people refused, Payne, Cooper, and Buddah ostracized them and ran them off the ranch. This is why most militias left the ranch when they did. One other point worth mentioning was there were militia members present with long range 50 cal sniper rifles... but instead of positioning them on the hilltops surrounding the ranch, Payne had them stationed down in a valley where they were effectively useless...does that sound like the makings of a solid leader to you? And also Payne was always sure to make certain that there was ONE completely UNDEFENDED access point to the ranch.. I brought this up to him asking why he would leave our back door completely open and undefended... and he completely blew me off... What he was doing in fact, was leaving an access point open for authorities to bum rush the ranch if that's what they felt needed to be done. And I have the witnesses to prove it.

Now throughout the situation Payne made repeated threats to law enforcement on NATIONAL media. There's VIDEO of him doing this..its not hard to find. Yet oddly enough with all that evidence he was never charged with anything during or after the standoff. Does that seem ODD to anyone but me? (not if you're a paid provocateur) Now in this situation at the refuge, he has publicly stated to a reporter that he has snipers set up to kill any federal official who approaches the refuge. Yet still.. no charges are being filed against him. making threats like that, you'd think they'd swoop in and scoop him up... but noooo.. because they're giving patriots time to get there... Don't think for one second that with a couple of phone calls to the proper alphabet agencies, those shmucks wont be SORELY outnumbered. Tell you what... if you think LEO's don't take threats against them seriously... go find the nearest cop and walk up to him and tell him you plan to kill police officers and see what happens to you.. See how long it takes for you to end up in prison.. yet Payne roams free..as does Cooper. Better yet go ask Schuyler Barbeau what happens when you threaten a public official... oh wait...you can't... hes in prison... because of a facebook post. Funny how that works huh? Also... has anyone else noticed that until this situation popped up Payne was damned near SILENT on social media? Wonder why that is... Hell, Most of you don't even know who he is... He also claimed to be an Army Ranger, But when we had someone at the Ranger School check their records... they said NO Ryan Payne had EVER attended that school... whoda thunk it?

Myself and Scott begged the Bundys, after we left (via phone) to stop listening to Payne..that he was a plant. But they refused to listen. Payne wouldn't let ANYONE talk to the Bundy's with out him being present..or close by. The Bundy's are good God fearing Christians but they are TERRIBLY naive. They truly believe Payne is one of the good guys. Which is why they are at the refuge now. Do you honestly think for one second it was AMMON's idea to take that building? If you do... you're a fool. They're not that type of people. Ammon has been suckered into this standoff by Payne and Cooper. He truly went up there with the intention of helping the Hammonds, and when they were refused, The Bundy's were made to believe that taking a stand against the BLM was the answer.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Now Cliven is on his way there.. and the govt is finally going to get their revenge on the Bundy's and in doing so gain the access they need to their land. All the major players in the operation of that Ranch will soon be together at the wildlife refuge... thats no coincidence. I assure you.

Payne, Cooper, Pete Santili... All well trained provocateurs who are doing everything in their power to lure patriots to the ranch.. Case in point...Santili just released a video try to say that the FBI was TRYING to shut him down.. Dont you think if that were the case...with ALL of the resources the FBI has, they would just go ahead and do it...do you really think this shmuck is smart enough to outsmart the ENTIRE FBI? Think about it...

Let us continue on.. why the wild life refuge? how in the blue hell did they even know it existed if this wasn't PRE-PLANNED? And why were their trailers staged up there THURSDAY night if this was all "unplanned"? And if they wanted support so bad...why not let the Oregon 3%ers and militia in on this? I'll tell you why.. because they would have had no part in it and vehemently refused if they had known.... as was demonstrated by their response once they found out. SO..that being said.. why pick a place so remote.. I'll tell you why.. the same reason the Bundy ranch was picked.. it's remote... no civilian casualties. And if everyone out there is killed there's no witnesses allowing the govt to write the narrative of what happened afterwards..You can bet any reporters out there will be silenced should they actually get close enough to catch anything worth documenting unless of course they're willing to report what they're told to... the reason it failed at the Bundy ranch was because the community got so involved... NOT the case at the refuge.

Next.. why has a detachment of Delta Force been deployed to the area? (does anyone remember that Delta was ALSO at WACO?) 19 sets of orders were cut for operators to be at waco. Why in the Blue hell would they send Delta to squash a bunch of unorganized mostly unarmed protesters? I'll tell you why.. one of the things Delta specializes in is hostage rescue.. I.E. blow open a door rush in and shoot the bad guys but save the good guys.. I.E. embedded reporters from the national media who can later report the protesters fired first.

This is happening EXACTLY the same way WACO did... you know who else claimed, "We won't fire first but if attacked we'll fire back.."? David Koresh. Again well documented fact. This situation is going to turn out the exact same way. If these guys don't stand down now, while the sheriff is giving them an opportunity to, I promise you.. its going to turn out the exact same way. I'll bet my life on it.

Now lets look at poor John Ritzheimer. This guy is exhibiting all the classic signs of PTSD. It is my belief that he is not in on this plan but like the Bundy's... has been suckered into believing what he is doing is right. This poor bastard is still fighting the war in his head and Assholes like Payne and Cooper are feeding into his delusions that dying for this cause is what he needs to do. They are taking advantage of his big heart and his undying love for the country he fought for and twisting him into a suicidal maniac. Im sorry if that stings.. but I assure you its the cold hard truth. How could ANYONE in their right mind think that dying trying to fight the BLM of all things is going to "change the govt"? How ignorant do you have to be to think that fighting and dying out there is going to somehow make the BLM fold up shop and stop what they are doing. Sorry kids... the ONLY people who can stop the BLM are in DC.. and I assure you, as long as People like Harry Reid and the like are around... the BLM is not going anywhere.. no matter how much we fight them and run them off. We ran them off at the Bundy ranch...and how much did that slow them down..? we ran them off at the sugar pine mine... how much did that slow them down...? What makes anyone think this will be any different? Mind boggling I tell you.

Now to those of you who are buying into this whole "this will galvanize the movement line of crap".. What this is REALLY going to do is crush the patriot movement. They are going to hit these people with such force with such blinding speed and a level of violence of action that most patriots are going to turn and look at their own children and go there's no way in HELL I want that to happen to MY family... thus the reason there are women and Children being taken to the refuge. The govt has already shown at WACO and Ruby Ridge just how willing they are to kill American Children. Don't think for a second they wont do it here as well.

All the classic signs of a psyop. They plan to frighten the people into not even daring to ever take a stand against them again.

So what then of the militias? We'll still be here but will be forced into hiding.. those who aren't will be scooped up and charged as Domestic Terrorists. Do you for even ONE second really believe that this happening at the same time as Obama prepares to announce a whole new slew of gun restrictions is really a coincidence? Its not.. Not at all. What this is going to be used for is an EXCUSE to show why we need to disarm the American people for their own safety.. or put into place such SEVERE restrictions on owning firearms that we will NEVER be able to properly defend ourselves against a tyrannical govt. Hitler did it... Stalin did it... Mao did it... now Obama's doing it. History is repeating itself in front of our own eyes and we're too blinded by raw emotion to recognize it.

If everyone picked up and left that refuge tomorrow, what do you think Payne and Cooper would do? They're so die hard...think they'd stay and fight? I mean that's what they're saying... they're not leaving right? Prepared to die for the cause....right?.... My ASS ! Nope... they'll slink back into the shadows and wait for the next opportunity to bamboozle good patriots into signing their own death warrants. And of course... once again.. neither will be charged with anything. And good peoples lives will be risked for nothing.

We're being goaded into a fight here people...you NEED to see that. And every ONE of you who is advocating for this...Know this... if these people die... it will be YOUR fault. Not mine, nor will it be the fault of ANYONE in ANY unit I command. I simply wont allow it. THIS is the reason my troops follow me.. because I take the time to think these things through...to look at them from ALL directions... not based on sheer emotion as so many of you are doing now.

It was stated, dare I say, TAUGHT to me today by a close friend who is an ex special forces operator, that wars are not won by people taking rash actions such as the ones that have been taken here. Wars are won with proper planning. That shit hit me like a brick.. And I Will NEVER forget those words as that is the smartest thing I have heard throughout this entire ordeal.

1. Plan 
2. Equip 
3. Rehearse
4. Execute

THAT'S how you win a battle. THAT'S how you minimize casualties.. THAT'S how you win a war. None of that was done here. Therefore, these guys are all as good as dead.. Why do you think the local sheriff there just said these guys need to leave WHILE THEY STILL CAN... Because he KNOWS whats going to happen to them! He's OFFERING them a way out and DAMNIT THEY NEED TO TAKE IT! The first thing I teach my guys is when they make unexpected contact with the enemy is, the proper response is to fall back, reset and take back the initiative. That's what we need to do here. Will it look like a loss in the eyes of the people? Absolutely. But hey, you all had better get used to the fact that we are not going to win every battle.. BUT... in the eyes of those who put this whole bullshit plan together... this will be a CRUSHING defeat...Even though it will never be made public knowledge. We have let the enemy pick the time and place of our fight...and that is about to prove to be a fatal mistake. Mark my words..

But we can still snatch victory out of this whole screwed up mess...if ONLY you will listen to me. How do we win then? Well I'll tell you...

We get those people out of there!!!!! Anyone and everyone who has contact with the people there needs to PLEAD with them to get the hell out of there... Then, we regroup, and WE pick the time and place of our fight...not the enemy. WE make THEM react.. WE pick ground that is most sensible for a proper defense, not a building in the middle of a field that has absolutely NO defensible positions as in the case of the refuge. Then we properly equip, plan, rehearse, and execute. If you want to win a war...that's how you have to do it. Most importantly.. we expose frauds like Cooper and Payne for who they truly are. and drum them out of the movement before they really get someone killed.

So that my take on this mess... listen to me if you want, ignore me at your own peril... either way it is of no consequence to me. I will not debate this issue, and NO ONE will change my mind about this... I have done too much research into this situation to allow ANY armchair commando to dictate my actions for me. This is the war you all wanted so badly... now either lead follow or get the **** out of the way. End of story. (please note this post has been edited to provide more factual evidence to include mention of Delta at Waco.)

 

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 05:29 PM

I think that there is alot of balyhoo over nothing. The land belongs to the natives of this country and they did not raise hoopla about it. All I see are white faces in the crown of occupiers, and at least half people of this great country are either black or brown. That tells you all you want to know.


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Posted 08 January 2016 - 05:29 PM

I think that there is alot of balyhoo over nothing. The land belongs to the natives of this country and they did not raise hoopla about it. All I see are white faces in the crown of occupiers, and at least half people of this great country are either black or brown. That tells you all you want to know.

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 11:07 PM

Oregon? The "Federal Government"? Corruption? Tyrants and "Terrorists"? "America" vs. "AmeriKa"??? "Freedom" vs. "Slavery"? Listen and pay attention.

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 11:11 PM

Jan. 6, 2016

This is the real deal, so I figured I'd post it in full, especially since it says exactly what I said - that this was all set up by the government and false truthers.

From Christian Yingling:

Ok ...Everybody... please gather around and listen to what I am about to say..Then either shut your mouth, or share this far and wide. If you have ANY faith in me as a leader you will heed what I am about to say. If not..I want nothing to do with you. simple as that.

The key to victory in any battle is the ability to remain calm in any given situation. What we are seeing right now is a whole bunch of people acting based solely on raw emotion. This is very bad and I'm about to explain exactly why. I am not letting my emotions make my decisions for me, but instead, looking at this from a calm, level headed, common sense approach.

What you are all witnessing right now  in Oregon has the makings of a full on false flag event. And I will prove that to you to the absolute best of my ability. Should you choose to look at this from a logical perspective you will see I am 100% correct. Some of what I will tell you is speculation based on my own experience and experiences of others I have talked to throughout this ordeal, but most of what I am going to tell you is documented verifiable fact.

Back during the Bundy situation, Ryan Payne declared himself the unofficial "leader" of the militias present at the Bundy ranch. Nothing could have been further from the truth. In fact, none of the militias listened to him at all. The ONLY ones who listened to him were the Bundy's, Blaine Cooper, who Payne claimed was a "professional security consultant', who turned out to be nothing more than an ex con, and buddah bear (nice name) who he also claimed was a "professional security consultant", but was later discovered to be nothing more than a tattoo artist thug. The militias ignoring these three, is precisely why that situation didnt turn into a blood bath. (strangely enough all three are present at the refuge)

I and Scott Woods were asked on one occasion, by Payne to go and destroy BLM equipment in the middle of the night. We refused, stating that that's not why we were there. We were there solely to defend the family. That very same night he rushed off in a car with a loaded AR to START a violent altercation with LEOs who supposedly had pulled over members of the Armenian Militia off exit 10 near the ranch. This report was never vetted nor was it looked into before he rushed off. It is also well documented that Payne had tried to incite other militia members to start violent altercations with the authorities who were present there. all of which were refused by militia members..all for the same reason...we were NOT there to start a fight...but to DEFEND the family. When people refused, Payne, Cooper, and Buddah ostracized them and ran them off the ranch. This is why most militias left the ranch when they did. One other point worth mentioning was there were militia members present with long range 50 cal sniper rifles... but instead of positioning them on the hilltops surrounding the ranch, Payne had them stationed down in a valley where they were effectively useless...does that sound like the makings of a solid leader to you? And also Payne was always sure to make certain that there was ONE completely UNDEFENDED access point to the ranch.. I brought this up to him asking why he would leave our back door completely open and undefended... and he completely blew me off... What he was doing in fact, was leaving an access point open for authorities to bum rush the ranch if that's what they felt needed to be done. And I have the witnesses to prove it.

Now throughout the situation Payne made repeated threats to law enforcement on NATIONAL media. There's VIDEO of him doing this..its not hard to find. Yet oddly enough with all that evidence he was never charged with anything during or after the standoff. Does that seem ODD to anyone but me? (not if you're a paid provocateur) Now in this situation at the refuge, he has publicly stated to a reporter that he has snipers set up to kill any federal official who approaches the refuge. Yet still.. no charges are being filed against him. making threats like that, you'd think they'd swoop in and scoop him up... but noooo.. because they're giving patriots time to get there... Don't think for one second that with a couple of phone calls to the proper alphabet agencies, those shmucks wont be SORELY outnumbered. Tell you what... if you think LEO's don't take threats against them seriously... go find the nearest cop and walk up to him and tell him you plan to kill police officers and see what happens to you.. See how long it takes for you to end up in prison.. yet Payne roams free..as does Cooper. Better yet go ask Schuyler Barbeau what happens when you threaten a public official... oh wait...you can't... hes in prison... because of a facebook post. Funny how that works huh? Also... has anyone else noticed that until this situation popped up Payne was damned near SILENT on social media? Wonder why that is... Hell, Most of you don't even know who he is... He also claimed to be an Army Ranger, But when we had someone at the Ranger School check their records... they said NO Ryan Payne had NEVER attended that school... whoda thunk it?

Myself and Scott begged the Bundys, after we left (via phone) to stop listening to Payne..that he was a plant. But they refused to listen. Payne wouldn't let ANYONE talk to the Bundy's with out him being present..or close by. The Bundy's are good God fearing Christians but they are TERRIBLY naive. They truly believe Payne is one of the good guys. Which is why they are at the refuge now. Do you honestly think for one second it was AMMON's idea to take that building? If you do... you're a fool. They're not that type of people. Ammon has been suckered into this standoff by Payne and Cooper. He truly went up there with the intention of helping the Hammonds, and when they were refused, The Bundy's were made to believe that taking a stand against the BLM was the answer.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Now Cliven is on his way there.. and the govt is finally going to get their revenge on the Bundy's and in doing so gain the access they need to their land. All the major players in the operation of that Ranch will soon be together at the wildlife refuge... thats no coincidence. I assure you.

Payne, Cooper, Pete Santili... All well trained provocateurs who are doing everything in their power to lure patriots to the ranch.. Case in point...Santili just released a video try to say that the FBI was TRYING to shut him down.. Dont you think if that were the case...with ALL of the resources the FBI has, they would just go ahead and do it...do you really think this shmuck is smart enough to outsmart the ENTIRE FBI? Think about it...

Let us continue on.. why the wild life refuge? how in the blue hell did they even know it existed if this wasn't PRE-PLANNED? And why were their trailers staged up there THURSDAY night if this was all "unplanned"? And if they wanted support so bad...why not let the Oregon 3%ers and militia in on this? I'll tell you why.. because they would have had no part in it and vehemently refused if they had known.... as was demonstrated by their response once they found out. SO..that being said.. why pick a place so remote.. I'll tell you why.. the same reason the Bundy ranch was picked.. it's remote... no civilian casualties. And if everyone out there is killed there's no witnesses allowing the govt to write the narrative of what happened afterwards..You can bet any reporters out there will be silenced should they actually get close enough to catch anything worth documenting unless of course they're willing to report what they're told to... the reason it failed at the Bundy ranch was because the community got so involved... NOT the case at the refuge.

Next.. why has a detachment of Delta Force been deployed to the area? (does anyone remember that Delta was ALSO at WACO?) 19 sets of orders were cut for operators to be at waco. Why in the Blue hell would they send Delta to squash a bunch of unorganized mostly unarmed protesters? I'll tell you why.. one of the things Delta specializes in is hostage rescue.. I.E. blow open a door rush in and shoot the bad guys but save the good guys.. I.E. embedded reporters from the national media who can later report the protesters fired first.

This is happening EXACTLY the same way WACO did... you know who else claimed, "We won't fire first but if attacked we'll fire back.."? David Koresh. Again well documented fact. This situation is going to turn out the exact same way. If these guys don't stand down now, while the sheriff is giving them an opportunity to, I promise you.. its going to turn out the exact same way. I'll bet my life on it.

Now lets look at poor John Ritzheimer. This guy is exhibiting all the classic signs of PTSD. It is my belief that he is not in on this plan but like the Bundy's... has been suckered into believing what he is doing is right. This poor bastard is still fighting the war in his head and fools like Payne and Cooper are feeding into his delusions that dying for this cause is what he needs to do. They are taking advantage of his big heart and his undying love for the country he fought for and twisting him into a suicidal maniac. Im sorry if that stings.. but I assure you its the cold hard truth. How could ANYONE in their right mind think that dying trying to fight the BLM of all things is going to "change the govt"? How ignorant do you have to be to think that fighting and dying out there is going to somehow make the BLM fold up shop and stop what they are doing. Sorry kids... the ONLY people who can stop the BLM are in DC.. and I assure you, as long as People like Harry Reid and the like are around... the BLM is not going anywhere.. no matter how much we fight them and run them off. We ran them off at the Bundy ranch...and how much did that slow them down..? we ran them off at the sugar pine mine... how much did that slow them down...? What makes anyone think this will be any different? Mind boggling I tell you.

Now to those of you who are buying into this whole "this will galvanize the movement line of crap".. What this is REALLY going to do is crush the patriot movement. They are going to hit these people with such force with such blinding speed and a level of violence of action that most patriots are going to turn and look at their own children and go there's no way in HELL I want that to happen to MY family... thus the reason there are women and Children being taken to the refuge. The govt has already shown at WACO and Ruby Ridge just how willing they are to kill American Children. Don't think for a second they wont do it here as well.

All the classic signs of a psyop. They plan to frighten the people into not even daring to ever take a stand against them again.

So what then of the militias? We'll still be here but will be forced into hiding.. those who aren't will be scooped up and charged as Domestic Terrorists. Do you for even ONE second really believe that this happening at the same time as Obama prepares to announce a whole new slew of gun restrictions is really a coincidence? Its not.. Not at all. What this is going to be used for is an EXCUSE to show why we need to disarm the American people for their own safety.. or put into place such SEVERE restrictions on owning firearms that we will NEVER be able to properly defend ourselves against a tyrannical govt. Hitler did it... Stalin did it... Mao did it... now Obama's doing it. History is repeating itself in front of our own eyes and we're too blinded by raw emotion to recognize it.

If everyone picked up and left that refuge tomorrow, what do you think Payne and Cooper would do? They're so die hard...think they'd stay and fight? I mean that's what they're saying... they're not leaving right? Prepared to die for the cause....right?....  Nope... they'll slink back into the shadows and wait for the next opportunity to bamboozle good patriots into signing their own death warrants. And of course... once again.. neither will be charged with anything. And good peoples lives will be risked for nothing.

We're being goaded into a fight here people...you NEED to see that. And every ONE of you who is advocating for this...Know this... if these people die... it will be YOUR fault. Not mine, nor will it be the fault of ANYONE in ANY unit I command. I simply wont allow it. THIS is the reason my troops follow me.. because I take the time to think these things through...to look at them from ALL directions... not based on sheer emotion as so many of you are doing now.

It was stated, dare I say, TAUGHT to me today by a close friend who is an ex special forces operator, that wars are not won by people taking rash actions such as the ones that have been taken here. Wars are won with proper planning. That hit me like a brick.. And I Will NEVER forget those words as that is the smartest thing I have heard throughout this entire ordeal.

1. Plan

2. Equip

3. Rehearse

4. Execute

THAT'S how you win a battle. THAT'S how you minimize casualties.. THAT'S how you win a war. None of that was done here. Therefore, these guys are all as good as dead.. Why do you think the local sheriff there just said these guys need to leave WHILE THEY STILL CAN... Because he KNOWS whats going to happen to them! He's OFFERING them a way out and DAMNIT THEY NEED TO TAKE IT! The first thing I teach my guys is when they make unexpected contact with the enemy is, the proper response is to fall back, reset and take back the initiative. That's what we need to do here. Will it look like a loss in the eyes of the people? Absolutely. But hey, you all had better get used to the fact that we are not going to win every battle.. BUT... in the eyes of those who put this whole plan together... this will be a CRUSHING defeat...Even though it will never be made public knowledge. We have let the enemy pick the time and place of our fight...and that is about to prove to be a fatal mistake. Mark my words..

But we can still snatch victory out of this whole screwed up mess...if ONLY you will listen to me. How do we win then? Well I'll tell you...

We get those people out of there!!!!! Anyone and everyone who has contact with the people there needs to PLEAD with them to get the hell out of there... Then, we regroup, and WE pick the time and place of our fight...not the enemy. WE make THEM react.. WE pick ground that is most sensible for a proper defense, not a building in the middle of a field that has absolutely NO defensible positions as in the case of the refuge. Then we properly equip, plan, rehearse, and execute. If you want to win a war...that's how you have to do it. Most importantly.. we expose frauds like Cooper and Payne for who they truly are. and drum them out of the movement before they really get someone killed.

So that my take on this mess... listen to me if you want, ignore me at your own peril... either way it is of no consequence to me. I will not debate this issue, and NO ONE will change my mind about this... I have done too much research into this situation to allow ANY armchair commando to dictate my actions for me. This is the war you all wanted so badly... now either lead follow or get out of the way. End of story. (please note this post has been edited to provide more factual evidence to include mention of Delta at Waco.)

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