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The Gunnison Massacre, Utah Territory 1853 - A Dress Rehearsal for Mountain Meadows

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#1 Mr Walker

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:02 AM

See the October 26, 1853, killing of US Army Captain John W Gunnison & seven more blamed on vengeful Pahvant tribesmen, as a dress rehearsal for the Sept. 11, 1857, slaughter of around 140 wagoneers at the Mountain Meadows by Mormons done up as Indians!


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Gunnison Massacre of 1853 in Millard County, UT.


The October 1853 Meadow Creek incident whereby wagon trainers had allegedly slain Pahvant War Chief Mosoquop's father, which allegedly caused him to seek revenge against "any white man" in response, is just too cute!

Wikipedia: After the killings, rumors circulated the Pahvants involved in the Gunnison Massacre were acting under the direction of Brigham Young, and a secret militia known as the Danites.

Resonates with numerous other False Flag events not limited to Pearl Harbor and the 911 Attacks, see the 1846 Mexican / American war similarly as a dress rehearsal for the 1861 American Civil War.




Mark Twain » Roughing It » Appendix B. The Mountain Meadows Massacre.

A wagon train rich in cattle, horses, mules and other property with one hundred and forty five or one hundred and fifty emigrants, being in part from Arkansas, and in part from Missouri left Arkansas.

A large party of Mormons painted and tricked out as Indians, overtook the train of emigrant wagons some three hundred miles south of Salt Lake City, and made an attack, the emigrants threw up earthworks, made fortresses of their wagons and defended themselves gallantly and successfully for five days!

At the end of the five days the Mormons retired to the upper end of the Meadows, resumed civilized apparel, washed off their paint and then heavily armed, drove down in wagons to the beleaguered emigrants bearing a flag of truce.

When the emigrants saw white men coming they threw down their guns and welcomed them with cheer after cheer, and lifted a little child aloft dressed in white in answer to the flag.


Ed: None of the extant accounts mentions this photograph, nor do any Mormon sources admit a photographer was there!


The deliverers were President Haight and Bishop John D Lee of the Mormon Church, they professed to be on good terms with the Indians, and proposed to intercede and settle the matter with them, after several hours they gave the ultimatum of the savages.

Which was that the emigrants should march out of their camp, leaving everything behind them even their guns, it was promised by the Mormon bishops that they would bring a force and guard the emigrants back to the settlements, the terms were agreed to the emigrants being desirous of saving the lives of their families.

The Mormons retired and subsequently appeared with thirty or forty armed men, the emigrants were marched out, the women and children in front and the men behind, the Mormon guard being in the rear, when they had marched in this way about a mile, at a given signal the slaughter commenced, the men were almost all shot down at the first fire from the guard.

Two only escaped who fled to the desert, and were followed one hundred and fifty miles before they were overtaken and slaughtered, the women and children ran on two or three hundred yards further, when they were overtaken and with the aid of the Indians they were slaughtered.

Seventeen individuals only of all the emigrant party were spared and they were little children, the eldest of them being only seven years old. Thus on the 10th day of September, 1857, was consummated one of the most cruel, cowardly and bloody murders known in our history. Samuel Langhorne Clemens


The Mountain Meadows


According to Mormon sources, thirty two of the fifty four Mormons who participated in the Mountain Meadows Massacre were from England .. which indicates they were mercenaries.

Eighty five Irish "San Patricios," who deserted General Taylor's Command and joined Santa Anna in Mexico, were hanged en masse September 10, 1847.

Forty white men were hanged and two more were shot "trying to escape," in Gainsvile Tx. in 1862, on suspicion of treason against the Confederacy.

Thirty eight Santee Sioux were hanged Mankato, Minnesota, Dec. 16, 1862, whose defense rested on their assertion, the five "settlers" they are alleged to have slain fired first!


Green Marker, the Mountain Meadows, Red Marker the site of the Gunnison Massacre.


Yet Mormon Bishop John D Lee was the single Mormon executed by firing squad, at the scene of the crime at the Mountain Meadows, twenty yrs after the event in 1877. Which indicates there was a massive conspiracy afoot - financed by the youknowhu's - a la the conspiracy that keeps the Zionist perpetrators of the 911 attacks separate from the hoosegow.


The Meadow Creek incident, & The Gunnison Massacre. by Colonel Dick Kindsfater.

John Williams Gunnison.

Pear Harbor False Flag.

911 Attacks, False Flag.

"San Patricios," Hanged.

Gainsvile Hangings.

Santee Sioux Hanged.

Mountain Meadows

Mountain Meadows Massacre

Last Confession and Statement of John D. Lee.

John D. Lee executed!

Edited by Mr Walker, 04 January 2016 - 06:00 PM.

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 08:19 AM

Here are some clues about the massacres:

1. "...early in October, a wagon train of Missouri emigrants, en route to California, had passed through the Fillmore settlement and camped on Meadow Creek. A small band of Pahvant Ute Indians came into the camp; they wanting to trade buckskins for tobacco. The Missourians attempted to disarm the Utes of their bows and arrows. In the fracas, war chief Moshoquop's father was killed by revolver fire."


2. The wagon train folks were killers.   They had been involved in the Missouri wars against the Mormons previously.


It was the aggressive actions of the wagon train folks that created the situation that got the Gunison people killed.


It is  possible that the Mountain Meadows massacre was NOT done by Mormons, but by someone wanting to turn public opinion against the Mormons.  Because up to that point public opinion was in favor of the Mormons of Utah.


Who was going to gain from pulling such a stunt?   Follow the money. Who gained from breaking  Mormon independence?


Anyway, thanks Mr. Walker for connecting the 2 events.  The official line never added up.  


BTW, the confession of Mr. Lee was not valid.  He did it to stop the witch hunt being carried out by the US.  


The manner of US officials throughout this period raises much suspicion regarding their intent, and as to who was directing them.

Edited by Ivan88, 09 January 2016 - 08:22 AM.

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