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#1 Homer MakeDonski

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 11:57 AM

Hi to all of you 
Hope you don`t mine one more angle of view over this matter ..
View I am coming with have two parts: linguistically and historically 

Lets talk about religious terms once more.
Instead of ourselves questioning what does term Slovo means or used to meant ,we will make this way .
Who is Slovo ?
At this way ,I doubt there's no Right Faith full (so called Orthodox ) priest what could not provide the answer .
Slovo is Jesus ,because Jesus is the Word 
And because in the beginning was the Word , and the Word was with God
or translated Bog + Slovo = Bogoslovija


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:01 PM

and here we are : 

What is Slavic ? 


Slavs as term developed from term Slovo . 
What is Slovo ? 

Lets see what do we have explained until today ? 
"Slav (n.) 
late 14c., Sclave, from Medieval Latin Sclavus (c.800), from Byzantine Greek Sklabos (c.580), from Old Church Slavonic Sloveninu "a Slav," probably related to slovo "word, speech," which suggests the name originally identified a member of a speech community (compare Old Church Slavonic Nemici "Germans," related to nemu "dumb;" Greek heterophonos "foreign," literally "of different voice;" and Old English þeode, which meant both "race" and "language"). 
Identical with the -slav in personal names (such as Russian Miroslav, literally "peaceful fame;" Mstislav "vengeful fame;" Jaroslav "famed for fury;" Czech Bohuslav "God's glory;" and see Wenceslas). Spelled Slave c. 1788-1866, influenced by French and German Slave. As an adjective from 1876..." 1 

What do we have here? 
They are two different terms ,and they are : 

1. Sclave 

2. Slovenine 

It is a huge differences between these two therms 
First term is from Latin and to us is strange and unfamiliar. 
Sclave became root for words 
Slave at English , 
Sklaven Germanic 
Sklabos on Arabic not at Greek as it written 
Sclave at Romanian 
Sclave at Greek 
Historically appeared and stuck over our places when Macedonia had been enslaved from Rome. Macedonians become slaves from 168 B.C. 
From here we have Sclavinias . 
Term Sclaviniae been in used not only for Macedonia but elsewhere as well. 

"Sclavinias" are mentioned east of the Rhine and in north Germany and Hungary, as they are also mentioned in Spain, Asia Minor or North Africa. This multi purpose Latin-coined administrative term was regularly used for particular area or group of areas: "Ecclesia Sclavoniæ" included Bosnia and Dalmatia, "S©lavonia" in today's Croatia, "Sklavinska" (today renamed Dublinska) in Poland, "Macedonian Sclaviniæ", etc. Even the so-called Germania, until, and long after the foundation of the Holy Empire by Franks and Charlemagne around AD 800. on the maps was "Sclavania"...2 

Enclaves ,and enslaved are today's preserved and in use terms at English . 

Second term is Slovenin . 
While Sclave is alien, term Slovenine is our languages ones 

Slovenin is term made from pronoun and suffix . 
Slove + nin 

Pronoun is Slove or Slovo and nin is suffix. 
Nin as suffix describe belonging . 
Both are our's languages terms with we are familiar with. 
Nin mean theirs or belong to some specific group . 

Our languages example are 
Rim+Nin -Rim (ja) nin 
Solun + nin Solun(ja)NIN 

At English parallel is with suffix N IA N , then an 


Roma + Nian =Romanian 
Roma + an = Roman 


Slovo + Nin 
Slovenin 
Slavyanin in origin 
So the ones belong to Slovo ,or following the Slovo is Slovenine or Slavyanin sing. and Slavyani pl. 

And what does word Slovo standing for ? 

Lets read Gospel by John 1,1, and Biblical New Testimony explanations 


biblehub.com The Beginning 
"1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2He was in the beginning with God "3 

Jesus shell be the answer 

Slovo is Jesus epithet 


God + The Word 
Bog + Slovo 
Theos + Logos 


knowing that all around us were people what accepted Christianity from Macedonia ,they became latest Slovo followers or Slavyani 

Lately when Church split at two half's therm 
"Prvo slavni" or Pravo Slavni the Right Faith full ones took its place for Eastern Church members description ,translated as Orthodox because of some reasons 
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Ref: 
1: 
dictionary.com Dictionary.com - The world's favorite online English dictionary! 
2. Vasil Culev "The invention of the "Slavic" fairytale", Skopje 2014 
3. New Testament 

links: 
http://etymonline.com/index.php?... 

The invention of the "Slavic" fairytale 
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
 


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#3 Homer MakeDonski

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:05 PM

And it is simple as that : 
Since Macedonia become the Cradle of Slovo and Macedonians come into being Slovo followers it were them what started to spare Slovo worldwide . 
Firstly between Bulgarians Khans and theirs First Bulgarian Empire , then between Moravian's,Lately Russians accepted Slovo and become slavicised i.e. Christianized. 
Everything else is so called Slavic migrated created theory.


 


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:10 PM

Back to the question 
What is Slovo ? 


To answer this question we need not to forget that all world religion have a man at its focus. Christianity as well . 
It is all made for the man . 
Heaven, paradise , 10 commandments , Hell ... 

So here we go . 
Man in our churches is spell as 
Chelovek , 
We will make one only letter transformation at this word . 
that is ch->S shifting . 
Lets see : 

Ch e l o v e k 

ch->s 

S e l o v e k * 

S L V K ....4

and here we read : 

S Lo V o K 

Slovo - K 
The Word
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Ref:
4- Sanda Vukelic , " Slavic Goddesses and Gods " , 
from the blog 

http://fishcalledsan...03/slavic-ety..
 

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:11 PM

Such a powerful is this Bog+ Slovo concept. 

Question is who is Slovo ? 
Answer is Jesus 

What is Slovo ? 
Answer is Man 

What Jesus had done ? 
He has take a man looking form and become Bogochovek God + Man 


Such a powerful concept it is . 
If we confirmed that according to the Bible Jesus been lately named as Christ , we could say that he is named as the Word or Slovo from the very Beginning . 
Spearing the Slovo worldwide is from Salonica and Ohrid firstly at thee East to pepole named as Bulgarians at theirs First Kingdom , than at the West trough Great Moravia , and finally at the North when Russians adopted Christianity and become a Slovo followers .


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:12 PM

What about enter that root of the word Logos could be at 
Macedonian word what does standing for syllables. 
That word is slogovi. 
And as we can see when analyze we have following situation: 
syllable = slog 
syllable +syllable= syllables 
or translated 
slog +slog =slogovi 
When we would like to express our selves using interpretatio graecia methodology,we will add suffix" os "at existing words end. 
In this case we are adding at this way: 
Slog+os = Slogos* 
After first letter cutting ,what is very usual access .we are facing 
Greek word for The Word and that is Logos . 
Slog 
Slogos* 
Logos


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:12 PM

So we could have situation that Maced. word standing for syllable has started been used as neologism in Greek language ,at the same or similar way as Macedon word standing for soul will began to used for expressing of Latin tittle for God . 

That`s word Deus . 
Or from Dusa to Deusa to Deus 
Lately from Deus to Theos we have one letter change only 
d-> t 
Deus 
Theos 

What is strange at that 
Theos + Logos concept is that something huge missing 
and that access of 
Deus+ Verbum ...


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:13 PM

From religious angle of view observing we could have different explanations for everything written over this Slavs means people theory. 

If we reread Pannonian Legends for one more time : 


"Then Emperor Michael said to Constantine the Philosopher: “Can you hear, philosopher, what they are saying? No one else can do it but you. Lo and behold, here are ample gifts, take your brother, Abbot Methodius, and go. Since you are from Thessaloniki and all the Thessaloniki people can speak pure Slavonic.”...1 

And if we read word "Slavonic" as Slavyanskoga what actually could be guessed original . 
That word can be read as Slovya either with added - suffixes sko ga either can be read out of end word adds as 
Slovya . And if it is so we read that same sentence now have got its different meaning . 
Thessaloniki people can speak pure Slavonic.”... 
Salonika people are speaking pure about Jesus or 
"All of the Salonika already been accepted the word Slovo and are fully Slavicised i.e. are in Christianity " 
On this way analysed, we are reading an answer why Slavs people appearing in Salonika even as the "theory of invasion" strictly claiming that " Salonika never failed" . 

Once more to make clear . 
Slavs people living at Salonika at that time are not invaders from outside but are native and are Slovo follow citizens 

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5. Pannonian Legends ,The Life of Methodius 

link :
http://webcache.goog...arch?q=cache:..


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:14 PM

t that way observed we could succeed in dealing with these process of becoming prominent and could say that their is no difference between these two explanations 

Sloveni 
• From a linguistic point of view, Sloveni simply means “people who speak our words” or “people who speak the same words” 
• From a religious point of view, Sloveni could just as well mean “people of the Word” or “people who have accepted the Word”. The “Word” or “Slovo”, of course, being the teachings of the gospel i.e. Followers of the Word, personified by Jesus. 

Simply because Sloveni are "people who speak the same words and those words are religious and about Jesus and are about Slovo to whom they belong .


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:14 PM

Lets try to reach another simple explanation . 
The one over letter K from S L V K derivations or word chelovek 

We asks if S L V could stand for Slovo ,what for letter K could standing for? 

The answer could be that it is about of servitude ор the liege or letter K does described relationship between a Slovo as superior and a man as vassal. 

Slovo + K as Slovok* -Slov + ya + k singlulare and Slov + ya + ki or Slovyaki* plural what by the time and according to historically transcription schools differences from one to another Churches and Monasteries we could possibly have emerge of k->n suffix shift . 
Thus will say that we have move from Slovo - Slovak to Slovo- Slovya 
Slovo + ya + n as singular and Slovo+ya + ni as plural 
Chronologically , we could have meanings description from God /man relation up to individuals affiliation to group


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:15 PM

 "Slavyani "
• From “Slava”, meaning Glory and Fame. So, Slavjani are glorious and famous people. And what other people is there in this world that is more glorious, more famous and more celebrated than the famous Ancient Macedonians, who conquered the whole world with an army of 30,000 fellow countrymen (not including the other Balkan contingents)..." 

If we focused at spreading of Christianity only we could find out some 
strange stuff. 

Lets say that symbol of Cross was not recognized as Christian symbol at all.More of it " the cross as a symbol was condemned by at least one church father of the 3rd century CE because of its Pagan origins..." and " The first appearance of a cross in Christian art is on a Vatican sarcophagus from the mid-5th Century"...5

What do we have at those times? 
We have situation that because it was not the Cross as Christian symbol ,and were not existing words associated and described Christianity . 


At our Macedonian language supposed situation could be look like: 
No Cross symbol , no words in use as krstenje or baptizing, no words as se krsti pokrstuva krscteva,krstevka ...nothing from all of that range of words having a word Cross as its base. 
Than from the other side we do have spreading of Christianity around. 
Under what words or phrases individuals were converted to Christianity then ? 
At the present we state that phrase in use is : 
“Се крштева чедо Божје во името на Св.Тројство...’’ 
"And it does baptizes child of God in the name of Holy Trinity .." 
And individual accepted the slavya of Slovo because he begun to be converted at it 

And it is so because we have the Cross symbol for all of the Christians worldwide . 
But back at the early times of Christianity and back at Macedonian spaces what do we have ? What pattern or model was in use ? 
We could guess that could be like: 

"And it does introduces at the Glory and Power of Slovo , child of God in the name of..." 


And converted become a Slovo follower or liege 
And liege become Slovo follower 
and Slovo followers become a individuals to group followers .. 


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Source : 
5- B.G. Walker, "The Woman's Encyclopaedia of Myths and Secrets", Harper & Row, San Francisco CA (1983),page ...313-314 


link : 
http://www.religious...rg/chr_symb.htm


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:25 PM

Historically Slovo as  Jesus epithet or more likely Slovo as teaching about Jesus, has it`s appearance in Salonica , Macedonia, circa  50 A.D  with St.Paul's first visiting Macedonia.
At his First Letter to the Salonicanians 1,5 ; 1.6 ; 1.7 we are reading this states :

5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake. (1.5)
6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost: (1.6)

7 So that ye were ensamples to all that believe in Macedonia and Achaia. .." (1.7)


What we have to do is just to determinate and what we are reading .

Here it does says that for the very first time term the Word is coming forward Macedonians at their Capital Salonica 
Term the Word what is Epithet for Jesus been accepted from Macedonians ,and term the Word become a new religious identification for those what become the Word followers 

Translated at our mother tongue language we have got these revelation :)

The Word - Slovo 

Slovo followers or Slavs 
Slavs from Salonica , Macedonia at the beginning of the first millennium 
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Ref: 
29- The First Letters of St.Paul to the Thessalonians ( 1.5) ; (1.6); (1.7) 

http://biblescriptur...ssalonians.html


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:28 PM

Some of late historians also will write about that:

"...' Thessalonians are Macedonians [in Christ Jesus], who having accepted the word of truth persevered in the faith even in persecution from their fellow-citizens. Moreover, also, they received not the things said by false Apostles. These the Apostle praises, writing to them from Athens [by Timothy].'.."28
This is from 1911 A.D book where author based his selve at the first cent.A.D. writer Marcion and what is called , his viewpoint on Christianity. 

States is that Macedonians first of all accepted Slovo (The Word ) concept and become Slovenes or Slavs .Slavs is very first term and it is before term Christ /Christians what appeared to be invented later. 
Slovo (The Word ) as Jesus Epithet is invited at 1 cent. A.D. 

Christ /Christianity as term is at least around , guesses are 3 cent. A.D. 

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Ref:1- F.C. Burkitt, “The Gospel History & its Transmission ,3rd ed. Ch. 9 "Marcion: Christianity without History" , (London, 1911), page..355-356 


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