Posted 30 April 2003 - 10:25 AM
isrdeu, ignorance is bliss. So you think I am an Arab? Sorry to disappoint you. Look at my photo on the back of any of my published books. I am white, Nordic in appearance, and definitely not Arab--but it wouldnot matter to me if I were. Arabs are good people.
Your knowledge of Hebrew, Israeli, and language is minimal, as it is concerning your own history.
The term Semitic, defined in most dictionaries (all that I am familiar with) is succinct:
1. Of or relating to the Semites or their languages or cultures.
2. Of, relating to, or constituting a subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic language group that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, and Aramaic.
1. The Semitic languages.
2. Any one of the Semitic languages.
[New Latin Semiticus, from Semita, Semite, from Late Latin Shemitic.] Semitic language, a name used to designate a group of Asiatic and African languages, some living and some dead, namely: Hebrew and Ph[oe]nician, Aramaic, Assyrian, Arabic, Ethiopic (Geez and Ampharic). --Encyclopedia Britannica.
Even though you do not want to recognize Arabs, etc. as Semitic people--they are. I have many Arabic, Hebrew, Ethiopic friends. I shared with them your letter, and they wondered how you could ever consider me antisemitic--being anti-Israel is NOT being antisemitic. Better get your terms correct.
Racism is alive and well in Israel as it is in the USA--as even you admit in your post: "Well, there was discrimination in Israel from the day it was born. The Jews that came from Europe after the 2nd world war complained about the way the veterans treated them. Then this syndrome repeated itself when there was Jewish immigration from the Arab countries. In the last two decades it happened with Jews that immigrated from the late USSR. Do you know something about the problems they encounter by the religious administration regarding their being Jews. Well this is the same with the Ethiopian Jews. Israel started what is called 'Moses Operation' when it rescued the Ethiopian Jews when there was a civilian war in Ethiopia. In few decades the syndrome will repeat itself when the Ethiopian will be the veterans that will carry the task of absorbing other Jews, running away from some other advanced culture."
As for your comment, "The melting pot of the Israeli society is well proven. I did not find this melting when I was last in Haifa a few years ago. I found start racism.
Your feigned humor about push is pointless without offering your own opinion. Sharon was never in the Empire State Building, and I never said Israel was directly behind the destruction of the NY WTC. That was the act of another madman--Osama bin Laden--a Saudi national who was expelled, reluctantly, from Saudi Arabia. I have written a book on his and his evil group Al-Quida--in case you think I am pro-Arab, you should read it. I reject any form of terrorism--from bin Laden to W Bush. All are evil. And remember,Israel is not blameless--or have you not seen the History Channel's documentary on Israelis bombing the USS Cole and blaming it on "Arab terrorists." You can buy it for $15.95 from the History Channel.
Actually, France and Germany will have a better chance of being recorded as the few sane voices to oppose an evil war--than it is for Bush & Co. The USA and UK is bitterly hated in Iraq now, as seen in the protests. This hatred is growing with the cold blooded murder of civilians protesting by USA paid mercaneries--its standing army. Israel, like the USA and UK, will ultimately pay for this attrocity when the Iraqis come to their senses and justifiably triple the price of their oil that the west--and Israel--depend upon. As far as I know there is no oil under ground in the land claimed by the State of Israel--all is imported.
You cite what I wrote carefully, so I commend you: 'nonse[nce]s (sic), as human rights have dwindled to the point that people are arrested based on their nationality and skin color and/or religion (as occured in Detroit), forced out of jobs because of their religion, killed and left hanging on Wyoming fences because sexual orientation, etc.'." Then you add, "Wow ! I guess you are looking for a better place to spend the rest of your life. What about Saudi Arabia? This great democracy is looking for Arabic speaking scholars like you (Just take care, they are cutting tongues from time to time, when they are not busy hanging their slaves)." Because I oppose the evil of powers destroying or limiting human rights doesn't mean I am willing to move or eager to move. While there are still many bad things in the USA--as every nation has them--I am an American and I stay to fight to make things better. It is NOT the adage, "America: Love it or Leave it" for I believe: "America, Love it and FIX it."
You question, "How the world would look like if Iraq had an atomic bomb or Iran, or Afghanistan?" I feel it is right for them to have these weapons if other nations, including the USA, has them, for no nation can be totally trusted if a madman comes to the helm, be it Hitler, or Saddam, or George W. Bush, or Ariel Sharron (he doesn't have the full support of his people any more than Bush has the total support of all Americans).
The holocaust and extermination of Jewish people (it is a religion, not a nationality or ethnic qualifier) has always happened wrongly by evil nations. The Jews were persecuted in Europe throughout the Middle Ages, and even throughout the period of the Reformation by intolerant religious people. This can never be denied or justified. Yet, you write as if I defend it, and then remind me of a fact that 6 million Jews suffered--but what about the 8 million White Russians (Byleorussia) who died in concentration camps, or the 1.5 million gays, or the 750,000 gypsies, the Protestant theologians (such as Bonhoeffer) and Catholic nuns, etc. The holocaust of Hitler was not limited to Jews only. And what about the concentration camps in the USA from Fort Pillow, AR to TNst our human world, when FDR (yes, a Democrat liberal) interred orientals--not by nationality (Japanese) but by race--and 87.5% were born in the USA and had lived here for generations? Let's be real. Evil comes everywhere at all times. And we must not forget the pogroms against Arabs in the West Bank by the Israeli soldiers.
YOu reject history by claiming it is a bunch of lies. Yet you cite no concrete evidence or reference in refutation. No, I do not cite or argue from Gables best 'Der Stirmer' but from various steles in Egypt, potshards from Babylon and the like. I NEVER use contemporary documents to look at or make judgments on the ancient past. And even the Old Testament Genesis records (following oral tradition) that Abraham and his kin invaded Canaan and took it, as they destroyed its cities (Jericho), etc. This was an act of aggression, theft, and war. And the Old Testament testifies that the victorious Jews "slaughtered all those who opposed them." Now that was such democracy!
"Britain, which declared (Lord Balfur 1917) that Israel is the national home of the Jews, was the one that blockaded the shores of Israel before the remnants of European Jews who tried to reach them after the Holocaust." This is true--but Britain had no right to give away Palestinian land to anyone--any more than the USA had the right to steal the land from its aborigines--the American Indian.
You are wrong, linguisitically, historically, and etiologically, when you write, "The Philistines of the old era do not exist anymore." By your thinking, then the Old TEstament Jews don't exist anymore especially after the various Diaspora--for there is no record of them any more than there is a record of Jews in Egypt during the time of an unrecorded Joseph--which is strange by any standard for he allegedly was a great ruler--and Egypt recorded all the deeds of their great men.
"The Arabs that claim to be their heritors, are the descendants of Islamic tribes that invaded the area from Saudi Arabia after the sixth century," would be identical to the Jews from Russia in the 19th--using your logic. However, your knowledge of Arab history is lacking, for the Saud's who carried the message of Mohammad, went into lands and found them intellectually fertile grounds to spread their message even if it meant forcing, by sword point, conversion to the laws of Mohammad. Now I have as little time or respect for the Koran as I do for the Torah--both are concoctions filled with myths and plagiarisms, but both spoke to a troubled people and gave both people comfort--and conversion.
I applaud the Egyptians, using your words, "Any square centimeter of land was returned to Egypt after two wars Israel won, for a peace treaty that is not honored today by the Egyptians. Syria lost two wars started by it. They lost these wars and Israel is ready to negotiate the terms of Peace for Land , but last time we heard that ASAD Junior stated that Syria and Israel cannot coexist together since the existence of Israel is a threat to Syria." Theft by war is still theft. The land belongs to Egypt and Syria. Peace treaties that divide up the lands of people is always wrong and will always lead to war--as the West learned after the abominable Treaty of Versailles in 1919--which made Hitler inevitable.
And I recommend you study history more diligently, after reading your absurd comment, "Your ridiculous statement: 'The Jews came from India--they were the ancient Habiru who invaded the Canaanite lands and stole it from the people of Canaan', is based again upon the sources that created the Arabic Gables like 'Protocols of the Old Zionists'." Sorry, my writing is based on various ancient records from Armenia, India, and Old Rome. It is founded on potshards, steles, tomb inscriptions and more. I don't have time to read contemporary propaganda, be it Arabic or Israeli. Do you read anything by Hebrew/Israeli and English? Try it.