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RUSSIANS BUILD FAR-BETTER -WARBIRDS than the USA! Why it is so hard to understand, ?


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#481 Buttersideup

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Posted 20 December 2003 - 02:51 PM

I am not jealous or paranoid. It was a just a question. I do appreciate the answer. btw, I am very opposed to all this banning that goes on around here.
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Posted 21 December 2003 - 03:57 AM

used to go,

the vikingamrican bastards type are out of business.

they can still post on CNN

hehe
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#483 Spartano

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Posted 21 December 2003 - 06:00 AM

Buttersideup,

I apologize if I were too rude.

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#484 AIRFORCE1

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Posted 21 December 2003 - 03:50 PM

Yes, the US ditched Plasma Stealth Technology in favor of Stealth Cloaking, you cant see it, and NO type of Radar can detect it, not even Russias best stealth detecting equipment.
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#485 Spartano

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Posted 21 December 2003 - 10:31 PM

AIRFORCE1,

Are you refering to the Philadelphia experiment ?
Could you, please, elaborate on that ?

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#486 AIRFORCE1

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Posted 21 December 2003 - 10:35 PM

TOP SECRET!
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Posted 21 December 2003 - 10:40 PM

ELECTROCHROMATIC PANELS TESTED AT AREA 51?


There are quite a number of new technologies being researched, developed and tested at various leading-edge defense contractor facilities, for example, at Groom Lake/AREA 51's highly compartmentalized, multi-faceted conglomerate complexes.

Besides a new generation of VTOL-based UAVs (Unmanned Aerial Vehicles - remotely-controlled surveillance platforms, some of which may be disk-shaped), there are ongoing development and testing of electrochromatic panels as part of innovations relevant to "daytime-stealth" capabilities.

The electrochromatic panels are comprised of thousands of tiny sensors that function as video-cameras that take images of background scenaries, transferring them to the other panels on the other side of the aircraft. This gives the illusion that the aircraft is almost transparent. What the ground observer sees is whatever background images behind (or above) the body of the aircraft that are transposed to the "observer's" side of the body of the aircraft.

For example, in a recent artist's rendition of a proposed "Stealth Blimp" (POPULAR SCIENCE), one can see the stars from above (and behind) the blimp, giving it an illusion of being transparent, and making detection somewhat difficult.

That an ongoing research, development and testing of such electrochromatic panels at locations such as at Groom Lake/AREA 51 may be taking place was first suggested in an article written by aviation writer, Bill Sweetman (POPULAR SCIENCE - May of 1997).

Coincidentally, after that article (suggesting that Groom Lake/AREA 51 was still abuzz with various projects) appeared on POPULAR SCIENCE of May, 1997, the June, 1997 issue of POPULAR MECHANICS, in turn, strangely came out with an article by Jim Wilson suggesting that Groom Lake/AREA 51's operations were transferred to Green River missile launch complex in Utah. This was the beginning of the false rumor that AREA 51 had moved to a new location in Utah.

The Green River missile launch complex right now still appears to be an old, abandoned site, with nothing visible of any significance. (As far as Utah is concerned, attention should rather be focused on DUGWAY PROVING GROUNDS, where lots of innovative programs are ongoing, for example, leading-edge research on biological-chemical warfare programs).

In the meantime, Groom Lake/AREA 51's conglomerate complex is abuzz with new programs.

It is estimated that there are still anywhere from 1800 to 2300 defense-contractor employees constantly at work in highly compartmentalized projects.
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 12:36 AM

AIRFORCE1 Quote
"Again, all you offer is a trashy little comment. All the facts I have stated are true. Disprove me with facts you Moron!

More dogfights are won by US jets than Russian, I have already posted proof several times. Where is yours?"







LIKE SOMEONE SAID BEFORE "its not about the airplane its about the pilot"

So if evently mached guy's fight against each other one in f-16 and one in mig-35. Its totaly clear that the guy in Mig-35 wil win.

btw if the outclassed pilots of iraq can shoot down f-18's think what evently mached pilots can do or even superior pilots.


I think that americans are still angry that russians beat them in space race (first in space) and had the first satalite flying over america. And that russians had the first ICBM. And now they are just pissed off that russians have better airplanes :P
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#489 Spartano

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 12:49 AM

All Russian military technology is superior.
I posted links to the fastest planes, fastest submarines, fastest missiles, more agile aircraft, superio nuclear bombs, fastest fighter, etc .......
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 01:24 AM

SU34..WITH ITS NEW ENGINES AND STEALTH PLASMA TECHNOLOGY NO EQUAL IN THE WORLD

<a href =" http://aeroweb.lucia...ages/su34-1.jpg " TARGET ="go "> Su34X..

do you see Cossacks sitting side by side and having some vodka ..I guesses.. after demolishing scores of US backed bandits in Chechnya


ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

just a few numbers:

Max speed at height Mach 2.1
Maximum range unbelievable 4 485 miles
Maximum take-off unbelievable 64 360 kg

This plane was not made of money ..it was made of Russian Intellect, Sweat and Russian Raw Materials . This is official > this baby is already equipped with Plasma -Stealth Technology.. Plasma lowers coefficient of friction (mach 3 possible) and fascists Nato will not detect Su34 on their primitive radar. Also new 21-century alloys were used in constructing this baby

AirFart 1.5, have your 50 IQ NIGGER design something like this.... ha ha ha ha ha
On second thought ...... have him sing a song about .... how much he loves dope
and how he raped his sister. ...instead.


ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hahaaaaaaaaaaa
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#491 Buttersideup

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 01:33 AM

deMachy


First let me say I am a big fan of Russian aircraft, rocket engines, and submersibles. But you are sadly mistaken about RADAR technology.
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#492 Skippy

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 02:14 AM

dEMACHY,

Get a new catch Phrase "50 IQ NIGGER" makes you seem like a biggot,

repeating it several times everyday makes you seem like the head of the local KKK chapter.



If you where Russian you would understand what I am saying.
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#493 Buttersideup

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 05:02 AM

FYI

There's an expression in the S.E. U.S...........


"damn skippy"......it translates to "no shit, of course"


Thought you'd like to know :P
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#494 Skippy

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 06:03 AM

We use it aswell,

But thinking about I may have stolen the saying off a an Exchange student a while ago?


But do you know who the real Skippy is?
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#495 AIRFORCE1

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Posted 22 December 2003 - 12:46 PM

The most stupid post this year by Zynagog. Quote:

"I think that americans are still angry that russians beat them in space race (first in space) and had the first satalite flying over america. And that russians had the first ICBM. And now they are just pissed off that russians have better airplanes"
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I sure am glad that all you are doing is thinking.

American won the race to the moon, who cares about the first in space. Russia lost more rockets on their pads blowing up like roman candles than any other country ever. No wonder why Russia is broke. BTW, If Russians built better airplanes than why are we not flying in them?

Boeing planes are produced and used all over the world. Just like American cars. Where are the Russian cars being sold?

Russia is still a 3rd world country that doesn't produce anything but trash for its own country.

And guess what? The average male in Russia will only live until 56.

Keep drinking that vodka while American men keep stealing your woman..:D :D :cool:
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 12:48 PM

PICTORIAL: Su-30KN UNRIVALED IN THE WORLD

\image{su-30kn} ..... this Cossack may just NUKE your as-s!
http://www.aeronauti...oi/su30mk03.jpg


AFTER FLYING for almost a year in primer finish, Sukhoi's latest
development of the potent Su-30 version of the Flanker has acquired a
dramatic new paint scheme and an intriguing suffix designation. Previously
referred to as 'aircraft 302', from its side number, it is now called the
Su-30KN, albeit with no explanation about the significance of these letters.

The aircraft was flown direct to Gelendzhik, on the Black Sea, from the
State Flight Test Centre at Akhtubinsk, to participate in
'Gidroaviasalon-2000', Russia's premier air show dedicated to maritime
aviation. The Su-30KN qualifies in this category because it is optimized for
anti-surface warfare operations. At Akhtubinsk, the aircraft had completed the
second stage of its acceptance trials, following earlier qualification flights with
R-77 (AA-12 Adder) air-air missiles and a wide range of precision-guided munitions
(PGM), including laser-guided bombs, Kh-29 (AS-14 Kedge), plus anti-ship
and anti-radiation variants of the Kh-31 (AS-17 Krypton) air-surface
missiles.

Additionally, it arrived carrying under the port wing a captive seeker head
for the Kh-59M (AS-18 Kazoo), one of the other PGMs involved in the
qualification trials at Akhtubinsk. The advanced avionics of the Su-30KN
have also facilitated integration of the 162nm (300km) range Yakhont
(Jewel) and Alfa anti-ship missile into its weapons suite, making this the most formidable
airborne anti-ship system currently available anywhere. Yakhont integration
studies are also currently being undertaken with both RSK MiG (involving
the MiG-29) and Tupolev (involving the Tu-22M3), whilst the Yakhont
missile itself has been cleared for export from 2001.

However, an even more potent combination of aircraft and missile has been
alluded to in a report by the Russian newspaper Independent Military
Review. This concerns the possible installation on the Flanker family of an
unspecified tactical ballistic missile, which, if successful, would produce a
weapons system of great precision and destructive power, one without
equal anywhere in the world.

Most importantly the Su-30KNX is equipped with the top secret unmatched
in the world Plasma-Stealth Technology that makes this warplane virtually
invisible to the radar currently used by the US and NATO Navy.

/Air Forces Monthly, Nov. 2000/

wow Russians did it again ... simply amazing .. move over USA NAZI NATO!
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#497 Buttersideup

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Posted 23 December 2003 - 12:21 AM

Yo.... deMachy


Coming at ya live :P

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#498 Buttersideup

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Posted 23 December 2003 - 12:46 AM

Weapons
Located in the ventral bays, the F-22 is armed with six AIM-120C Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM). Weapons armament on the F-22 turned out to be a controversial issue in the past. In preferred conditions, a fighter such as the F-22 with internal weapons bays should have a compact missile with folding fins. This condition would mean the F-22 could not carry standard missiles. An anticipated problem of internal missiles with folding fins is they may not be capable of withstanding stresses when carried externally on current fighters. The latter is not acceptable in this modern age in military hardware. This is because of the ability for almost all Air Force weapons to be used on its current fleet of fighter aircraft. The ability for Air to Air and Air to ground weapons to be carried on multiple aircraft cuts down on costs and maintenance support.

The Aim 120C is a compromise. Reason being, the tails and wings of the missile have been reduced in size with the intent for the missile to fit better into internal bays. Best of all, there are no performance compromises with the reduction. In addition, the USAF has announced the AIM-120C will become the standard version for all of its fighters. The Aim-120C's will be propelled off of the missile rack inside of the weapons bays by pneumatic and/or hydraulic ejectors.

The F-22's side weapons bays (one on each side) will initially hold one Aim 9 Sidewinder missile. The Sidewinder is a heat seeking IR guided missile effective at short range. In the future however, the Aim-9x IR guided missile will be introduced which will have small tail surfaces unlike previous versions. Most likely, the F-22 will be capable of carrying two Aim-9x's per side. The Aim 9 Sidewinder will be extended on a trapeze mounted launcher before the launch. This is to allow the Aim 9's IR seeker to effectively acquire the target or "sniff" it.

The F-22 will come equipped with an internal cannon. Lockheed Martin will install a M61A2 cannon, which is an improved version of the original M61. A new feature includes longer, composite-wound bullets. The M61A2 will be mounted just above the right wing root. To preserve the F-22's stealthy characteristics, an inward opening door will cover the muzzle until the weapon is fired.

In 1994, the USAF asked Lockheed Martin to develop an air to surface capability for the F-22. Provisions were later made to the lower weapons bays to accommodate one 1,000 pound GBU-30/32 Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) per side. A simple GPS (Global Positioning System)/inertial system will guide the weapon to its target. Eventually later versions will have increased precision attack capability by including a programmable radar seeker. The F-22's air-to-surface operations will be carried out courtesy of its onboard synthetic aperture radar (SAR) mode.

In addition to the F-22's internal weapons bays, it will also be capable of carrying stores externally. Four underwing stations will be able to support up to 5,000 pounds. Underwing stores will be fitted to the F-22 when stealth is not critical. External drop tanks up to 600 US gallons can also be fitted onto the stations. This will increase the F-22's endurance and range significantly.
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#499 Skippy

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Posted 23 December 2003 - 02:06 AM

I want more info on Plasma

Who has it??
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#500 Buttersideup

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Posted 23 December 2003 - 02:12 AM

Plasma
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