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#1 DUMA

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Posted 19 April 2003 - 04:00 PM

The UN and all the world Organizations cannot recognise a Government
ENFORCED on a people by invaders with guns and bombs and without the support and wishes of the People.

Is this how US is going to Bring Democracy to the rest of the Region?

Is the US and so called coalition leadership Hallucinating?

Or do they want the rest of the World to hallucinate

while they create one mess after another under the guise of 'Liberating' other people

from their self-determinism, their Soverignty and their wealth and freedoms.

WHAT A SEA OF SHIT AMERICANS HAVE CREATED FOR THEMSELVES.

ARE THEY GOING TO SWIM OUT OF IT OR SINK DEEPER IN THEIR OWN EXCREMENT.
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Posted 19 April 2003 - 04:05 PM

Duma, if you actually tonned down your seething hatred towards my country and came back down to Earth, I might even converse with you once in a while.

Regardless, every american citizen that I have talked with about this are in complete agreement: We want the Iraqi people (and not our govt.) to decide upon, and elect their own governmental officials and structure. So, in essence, I agree with you, though I don't see the need for your vinegar-laced verbiage.
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#3 DUMA

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Posted 19 April 2003 - 04:24 PM

Stark,

Somehow I do not believe you.

If you believe what you claimed you would not have supported the invasion.

You would not have supported the troops, that are just reduced to robots without conscious and knowledge and any freedom to decide anything for themselves.

Americans are very far, real far from seeing clearly as you claim, they are still
blinded by their own shit about their ' greatness' and their role as the saviors
of the world and all that is sweet and nice, and you can eat twice.
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#4 Stark

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Posted 19 April 2003 - 04:45 PM

I'm not here to alter perceptions, Duma. I said what I said, and I mean what I say. Most here have preconceived notions as to who and what americans are, so there's no point in my attempting to alter predetermined definition.

... and yes, I did support our troops, and the invasion. I stated my reasons, and even more recently, admit to the possibility that GulfWarII was launched under false pretense and weak intelligence. However, if you were ever a soldier, as I and many others on this board have been, you should also note that we serve our nations with noble intent, obey orders given by our superiors and stand proud as brothers and sisters, protecting our land, our homes and our families. Military ventures are often froth with inherent moral issues, both inward and outwards, but as a soldier you trust that causes are just, and the decisions made are the wise ones. Right or wrong, not withstanding the most extreme circumstances, soldiers must and should follow orders.
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Posted 19 April 2003 - 04:56 PM

Stark,

You have never defended your home or land.

But the day will come when you will do what you have been lying to yourself about.
In fact you have been mostly invading other peoples homes, destroying them their lives and their families.
Day will come when others will protect their homes, their families, their morals, their way of life, inside your land and inside your homes.

Then you will have a chance to be patriotic.

All this other crap you believe and post will become very clear to you then.

Your homes are not in Iraq or in Yugoslavia or in Afganistan, or in Germany, or in Korea, or in Vietnam....... Wake up man!!!!!

From that Grand Delusion.
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#6 DUMA

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Posted 20 April 2003 - 12:15 AM

One day soon US will be invaded by foreign troups, and all you guys will be

Liberated from your grand Delusions.

You will thank the Liberators and kiss their feet.
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Posted 20 April 2003 - 01:28 AM

Whatever happens, I sure hope nobody loots, trashes, and burns the Smithsonian Institute...
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#8 DUMA

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Posted 23 June 2004 - 11:13 PM

This thread is still relavant.
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Posted 24 June 2004 - 12:12 AM

Any US appointed GOVERNMENT In IRAQ ILLIGITIMATE

and highly criminal!
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#10 Pumpkin

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Posted 24 June 2004 - 12:20 AM

Let's try the theory on the other hand and see if it's really valid:

Any RUSSIAN appointed GOVERNMENT in CHECHNYA is ILLIGITIMATE

The UN and all the world Organizations cannot recognise a Government

ENFORCED on a people by invaders with guns and bombs and without the support and wishes of the People.

Is this how Russia is going to Bring Democracy to the rest of the Region?

Is the Russia and so called leadership Hallucinating?

Or do they want the rest of the World to hallucinate

while they create one mess after another under the guise of 'Liberating' other people

from their self-determinism, their Soverignty and their wealth and freedoms.

WHAT A SEA OF SHIT RUSSIANS HAVE CREATED FOR THEMSELVES.

ARE THEY GOING TO SWIM OUT OF IT OR SINK DEEPER IN THEIR OWN EXCREMENT.
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No, it doesn't ring true. Sorry.
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#11 DUMA

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Posted 24 June 2004 - 12:45 AM

The only Legitimacy an Iraqee government can get is from its own people not from some invading forces or some governments that were promised spoils of war if they vote on some silly UN resolution that is meaningless.
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#12 Pumpkin

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Posted 24 June 2004 - 01:45 AM

"The only Legitimacy an Iraqee government can get is from its own people not from some invading forces..."

Yes, correct. I agree 100%.

However, someone has to run things until elections are held so some Iraqi people are picked to be leaders until then.

Nobody wants the current government to be permanent, not even the US.

If they survive assassination attempts, elections can be held quickly, within 6 months or less.

Nobody wants the US military to run the country, especially Bush, because it costs too much money.

Al-Qaeda doesn't want any Iraqi government at all whether elected or not.
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