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#1 obmar

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Posted 27 April 2003 - 10:36 PM

New Straits Times ' Frontpage

Reporting from Iraq: 'Saddam has gone, time for US to go has come'
Shamsul Akmar

KARBALA, April 22: A new force is gathering in Iraq - the majority Shia community is pushing for the setting up of an Islamic nation and the withdrawal of American troops.

The rallying cry was made as millions of Shias converged here to commemmorate the martyrdom of Hussein, the grandson of Prophet Muhammad.

Amid their chants for Hussein, one of the most important imam in the Shia sect, the pilgrims also called for the establishment of an Islamic nation and the immediate withdrawal of American troops.

The Shias are the biggest sect in Iraq.

They make up 60 to 65 per cent of Muslims while the Sunnis, long the strongest faction in the government, make up slightly over 30 per cent.

The pilgrimage to Karbala, one of the two most important cities for Shias - the other being Najaf - is a signifant event this year as it had been banned the past 35 years during the rule of Saddam Hussein.

For Alaa Hadi, 21, from Babel, the pilgrimage is significant for the Iraqi Shias as it was akin to celebrating their independence.

"While we are glad that we can now perform our pilgrimage, we still have a lot of work to do. We do not want the Americans to stay in our land," he said.

"If they do not leave, we will get them out of Iraq." Alaa's bravado is shared by Doama Abdalla Khalid, 53.

Walking some 108km from Baghdad over three days, Doama said: "The Americans and the British should see this sea of people as a show of unity. "This unity will be our strength to get the Americans and British out of our land." Doama said the unity shown was not only of the Shias, but also of the Sunnis and Kurds.

A soldier during Saddam's rule, Said Hameed, 47, of Baghdad, also condemned the former Iraqi president whom he said was "the creation of the Americans".

"The Americans used him to invade us today." Insisting that reporters translate a poetry he wrote in Arabic, Said believed the sentiments were reflective of what most Iraqis felt.

A translation of Doama's poetry reads: "Every child in Iraq is an explosion which will destroy any of the invaders. "We will ensure this land of the oldest civilisation will prevail, and the nation of Islam is created.

"Our inner self will find peace from the glory of generations to come. "The Americans must go or we will make them go..." Ahmad Abdul Wahid, a farmer from a village near Karbala, summed up the sentiment of the Shias: "We hated Saddam but we cannot stand the invasion by the Americans and British. "Now that Saddam is gone, the time for the Americans and British to leave has come." The Shia pilgrimage to Karbala is indeed a spectacle as the devout come on foot from whichever part of Iraq, be it Mosul in the north and Basra in the south, both about 600km from here.
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Posted 27 April 2003 - 11:18 PM

I dont think they would look at giving away free oil to Israel.

what ya think duke?
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Posted 27 April 2003 - 11:50 PM

do they know when they are not wanted?
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Posted 28 April 2003 - 12:04 AM

All this while do they really cared?
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Posted 27 February 2004 - 01:13 AM

Of course the politicians will say we want our
independence!

They will say this even knowing they really rely on the
US to keep the peace.
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Posted 27 February 2004 - 01:34 AM

they're not enjoying peace with america there, they may not enjoy peace with america not there.

perhaps america is irelevent :P

if there's a requirement for america to be there it's because america created that requirement in the first place.
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Posted 27 February 2004 - 01:40 AM

Today, Sistani said he agreed with Kofi on
election timing. Before the end of '04.
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