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#3241 woj1@cyberonic.

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 02:14 PM

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 02:52 PM

Maybe little exaggeration but in each point?

@Moore says elites use war to oppress the masses and retain power and this is correct. The movie will politicize many people and that is good. Unfortunately it will make them Democrats. The Democratic Party is in the pocket of the Illuminati bankers. The Illuminist bankers are organizing a global fascist state that they can directly control. Of course this is being done in the name of freedom and human rights.:)
William Kristol, Charles Krauthammer and Thomas Friedman speak of rebuilding the world "in the image of the United States." Their focus now is on the Middle East. Saudi Arabia seems to be their next target.
Krauthammer: " The war on Iraq is being fought to replace the demonic deal cut with the Arab world decades ago. That deal said: you will send us oil and we will not intervene with your internal affairs."
Translation: Rothschild/ Rockefeller are tired of giving Arabs such a large cut of the pie. They want direct control of Middle East oil.
Krauthammer: "If the victory is contaminated and slow it will be impossible to go on to the other Arab states after Iraq."
Translation: They want to undermine the independence of Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran and possibly even Egypt. When they're finished with the rest of the world, they will turn their attention to America.
Kristol: "And the way to fight chaos is to fight to create a new world order...So that, really is what this war is about. It is being fought to consolidate a new world order, to create a new Middle East."
intarcepts from http://www.savethemales.ca/:confused:
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 02:57 PM

<WHat was explained about what happened through Reagan
was typical whereever the free market policies were instituted.
It is a revolution and its not just about bigger profits its also ideology and the ending of the standard of living and the expectations of the past.>

Howdy Bader
You just made some of the best analyses you ever made, and you've made many. The lion, the foxes, the other predators, the snake, the indifferent little animals...

What's worst about Reagan is that he's portrayed as an "all-American hero" nowaday... Or maybe he's, depending how you look at it...;) He's the symbol of the Law of the Jungle. "Trickle down economics" boils down to "the more the lion eats, the more scraps he leaves.":confused: The picture of Reagan comes on the cover of magazines with a big grin, like saying, "Hey, Bush, finish my job!" And few remember or care to say the truth. Only a friend brought to my attention how he deinstitutionalized the mentally ill to finance the Star Wars. We may say that he's the lion investing in extravagant projects. Well, Bush ain't far behind cutting down on education to invade Iraq...:confused:

<The playing around with the intelligence and defence systems is
purely and extention of the power and arrogance as the appertite increases. IT squeezes the good and honest people out of the way which leaves only those who are capable of being ruthless like dictators. Natural selection wins by default of the
majority. A major player in inducing default is the media and the
prostitute polies. Most people dont want to know until they have to, then its too late, so they dont have to do anything either way.>

Playing with intelligence is the right word. Perhaps "carelessly playing" with intelligence is even better...;)

Notice how none of these reports, which have taken time--and big money--to produce, has ever found anyone to have LIED...:cool:

Report: Iraq Intelligence Was Careless

By KATHERINE PFLEGER SHRADER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - A highly critical Senate Intelligence Committee report concludes U.S. intelligence analysts remained objective, but got careless, as they estimated the threat Iraq (news - web sites) posed prior to the U.S.-led invasion, officials familiar with the report say.

After a yearlong review, the committee on Friday was releasing more than 100 conclusions on the quality and quantity of the intelligence community's Iraq assessments, including estimates on the former government's purported mobile weapons labs, chemical and biological weapons, nuclear program and unmanned aerial vehicles.

Republicans and Democrats alike on the Senate committee have said their report was a hard-hitting review of the intelligence agencies' performance that would not paint a flattering picture of the CIA (news - web sites).

One U.S. official familiar with the report said it does not charge the agency with losing objectivity but accuses its analysts of not being rigorous or careful in their intelligence assessments.

http://news.yahoo.co...gence_report_10
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 03:05 PM

I don
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 05:31 PM

Would John Kerry, far from quickly bringing US troops home, keep them in Iraq even longer than George Bush?

Kerry agrees with most Iraqis on one thing. Until April 10 last year the US invasion was a success. Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled in three weeks with relatively low casualties. Since then, however, the failures outweigh the successes,.. Foreign Islamists using terrorist methods are operating in Iraq in a way that never occurred under Saddam Hussein. The US occupation has been a magnet rather than a deterrent.
The US has had some success in making pluralistic politics possible in Iraq and preparing the ground for genuinely contested elections in January It is too early to tell how free the election campaign will be, and whether violence, intimidation and tribal loyalties will be strong factors in controlling people's choices. Whichever parties or personalities come out on top, they are likely to want US troops to withdraw, as soon as
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 08:43 PM

D Slavovich Ratz: Putin's popularity rating is falling RESPONSE;
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Posted 10 July 2004 - 10:33 AM

The intelligence report seems to have excused Bush and the
Pentagon if the main issue is poor intelligence, comes at the right time for the election.

I think the words got careless is typical downplaying it. There was a special office created that handles intelligence with the purpose of putting the spin on it to justify the decisions made.
That isnt careless, thats conspiracy to commit war crimes.

The Fulton speach by Kerry is a bit of a bob each way and sounds like a loose nut behind the wheel. He will do exactly what Bush will do, but just mixes up different words that sound different but mean the same thing when it comes down to it.
The vehicle will be the same, run the same, just a different loose nut behind the wheel.

US representatives calling for the UN to monitor US elections.
UN believable. Perhaps the public will start taking things more seriously instead of waiting for their major media corporations to tell them things are getting bad.

"most advisors surrounding Kerry ... believe it is not so much in a war on terror as a war on state failure"
This is Kerry'sville. Using different words but making no
difference. The US National Defence Strategy says exactly the same thing, which is a major reason Bush invaded Iraq and is pushing for reforms in the Middle East/ the decision by the Arab
League summit recently agreeing that democratic reform is needed. The reforms are to wipeout the type of political/social
conditions terrorists are allegedly developing in, but in fact it is to bring them all under debt (IMF) and free market reforms that allow US corporation to syphon off profits to feed the US dollar
which otherwise might have a stroke and die.
Kerry is a four dollar bill.

Britian pull out of the UE would be a great thing. They should get out of Iraq first
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Posted 11 July 2004 - 01:31 AM

Bader; @Got careless
The intelligence report seems to have excused Bush and the
Pentagon if the main issue is poor intelligence, comes at the right time for the election.@
Best explanation for carelessness is in article The New World 0rder's Fascist Pedigree
By Henry Makow ; Conclusion is in ; " Theodore Roosevelt quotation; "Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.

@Nazi Germany was a capitalist paradise. There was a 60-hour workweek, low wages and no unions. Nazi expansionism represented the global ambitions of German cartels that started preparing for war long before they financed Hitler. "For German big business, World War II was a chance to plunder on a scale . Cartels purpose is to defraud the public by keeping prices high. One of the earliest cartels was J. D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil, which eliminated the competition by secretly fixing transportation costs with the railroads. Rockefeller is famous for saying the only sin is competition.
The largest German cartel was the chemical, film and pharmaceutical giant I.G. Farben. Farben produced 85% of Germany's explosives in World War Two. In 1926, Farben and Standard Oil entered into a cartel agreement in which Farben stayed out of synthetic oil in return for Standard representing Farben in the US.
The list of US corporations that had the equivalent of $8 billion invested in Nazi Germany include Standard Oil, General Motors, IBM, Ford, the Chase and National City Banks, ITT and many others. As a result, the men of "We Were Soldiers" didn't know that ITT built the airplanes that dropped bombs on them. They didn't know that Ford and General Motors built the Nazi's trucks and tanks. They didn't know that ball bearings crucial to the Nazi war effort were manufactured in Philadelphia, This information is shocking if we assume that cartels owe an allegiance to their native country. This is not so. . Their native countries are important only insofar as they provide patriots to die for the advancement of their financial interests.
If the elite backed the Nazis, why didn't the Nazis win?
The elite also backed the Allies. It doesn't matter which version of NW0 the elite gets. The real money is in war.
In conclusion, the Third Reich was an early attempt at the New World Order. The purpose of this kind of "globalization" is to institutionalize the political power of the cartels. This is the hidden agenda behind the current "war on terror," .
"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. TR.
Is anything changed today?
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Posted 11 July 2004 - 10:48 AM

Good one Woj.

He is one of many who tell it like it is.
What you quoted is the essence of why I call the free market of
today (started by Reagan and Thatcher) fascism. Nothing has changed accept the puppets and the uniforms and insignia (but not all)
Roosevelt went close to forming a totalitarian system and there is a chance marshall law might prevent Bush from facing the polls
to continue, before the next election.
The Roosevelt dollar with the illuminati pyramid was printed in 33 the year Her Hitler came to power, and the dollar states new world order.
As I said and others have said before the two sides (boxers) are both owned by the same promoter or in DonQs language - Puppeteer. Thesis v antithesis.

Nothing careless here, all very carefully done.

Mind you all these enties and characters are subordinates of the international banksters.

Senator Edwards attended the last Bilderbergers ( David Rockefeller, Kissinger etc) meeting in Italy, which caused some to anticipate that he was going to get the nod to run against Bush, not quite. Interesting to see so many ambitious types having to visit certain people and places prior to elections.
Arnie visited a Rothschild in England before being elected in California. Bush has just visited the Pope. ( I guess there will be a few people who wish he would hurry up and visit God).

The US are going to spend over 19 million training people like truckies to look for terrorists along the roads and phone in and colate their calls. Wow, Bin Laden will not go by un-noticed in his nightie and turbin. If he walks into a road diner, everyone should dive out the door because the US will blow the whole place up, staff, customers and all given their track record.
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Posted 11 July 2004 - 12:13 PM

Bader; @Nothing careless here, all very carefully done.@.

You right; Confirmation of your statement is right now;

Report Not Likely to Alter U.S. Strategy. WASHINGTON - Now that a Senate committee has concluded the CIA falsely claimed Iraq had WMD don't expect America to strike only after an attack.

"Iraq was the first case of pre-emptive war by the United States, and we have learned an important lesson
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Posted 11 July 2004 - 12:56 PM

John Edwards
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 12:53 AM

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Posted 12 July 2004 - 09:00 AM

Howdy Woj:

Pre-emptive strike potentially means there has to be a show-down between major rivals, for example China and USA. There is no option because the strike is based on the likely desire to do/have what it takes to be number one.
Edwards said the desire of Hussein was sufficient to justify a
preemptive strike. The reality of whether he could attain the WMD
is not in issue apparently and on top of that nonsense European countries and Britain and the US supplied him with all he had before old man Bush had his day at war.
This is Mad Max stuff.
Next level is if you suspect the USA or who ever is top dog thinks you might be a potential rival then you would want to have WMD to put them off a pre-emptive stike and so if they know that they have to attack you because you wanted to be able to defend yourself from a pre-emptive option.
So how can a final showdown be avoided?
China clearly on a collision course with the US knows at some stage in the near future the USA will consider the need to put China down to prevent them becoming a rival. So what do Chinese leaders do, they have to plan a strategy to outflank the
US systems so a pre-emptive strike will not prevent them from striking back.
Should they succeed they will then be ina position to consider their own pre-emptive strike as self-defence if the US cant strike back.
If the Chinese strategy becomes known the US must then strike.
Once this fate is known we wont have to fear it happening
because world govt will be in such demand to bring peace- and disarmament so the world govt is all powerful-
game, set and match. The careful fulfillment.

Criminal lawyers are not disposed towards the truth or reality but towards winning by what ever means you can get away with.

The key line from Edwards was that Hussein was allegedly a
threat to Israel. In other words the pre-emptive strike was on behalf of Israel. There is no grounds to claim Iraq was a threat to the US. Zionists dictate the US strategy and paying the costs of the running of israel. Political parties (politics) is state funded
so the puppeteers are supplied with the funds to control Israel
from the US taxpayer who also goes to war and dies or gets radiation sickness for Israel or perhaps we could say the roadmap- Middle East Market.
Clearly the greatest threat to the US from the Middle East is Israel so where is the pre-emptive strike supposed to go?

"Abandoning the pre-emptive strike would only invite an attack on the US..."
Rubbish of the first magnitude. Sept 11 was allegedly a strike against the US and Bush Snr made his pre-emptive strike against Hussein years before. With this interpretation it failed, and if it is interpreted in the light of the truth that Hussein had nothing to do with Sept 11 or al qaeda then the US is open to be attacked anytime even from within and the chief of ant-terrorism in the US is regularly warning that another terrorist strike will happen soon in the US so where is the pre-emptive strike going to save them this time either?
Its all gobbledy gook.
The US didnt go half way around the world to Iraq to get the
criminals who effected Sept 11 and it has caused more hate and resolve against the US and will not bring peace, just endless body bags. Edwards sounds madder than Bush.

If Kerry and Edwards are the choice it will be because NATO and the UE are to be moved up to get the US people to accept submission which a world govt cannot happen without this. My guess is that this is the biggest hurdle the puppeteers have to achieve world govt and it may well be the primary reason Sept 11 happened just as Pearl Harbour to get the public to want to go to war in Europe.
They deliberately made a mess in Iraq so they have to go for help
which is why neither option this election will pull out and avoid having to cooperate with UE or the UN. Meanwhile fortunes are being made by corporate friends, some of which can be expected to find its way into Republican and Democrat slush funds.
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 01:29 PM

Bader; @"Abandoning the pre-emptive strike would only invite an attack on the US..." Rubbish of the first magnitude.@

Not an enemy desire to strike US is subject of American pre-emptive strike policy. In contrary ; showing the weakness is an asking for the strike.
Was Afghanistan in position to defend itself? No. Were US and Britt
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 02:37 PM

This article tells us of the mixed bag Reagan brought us. The big bag is for the lion, the small bag for the poor...;)

The mixed legacy of Ronald Reagan

Ronald Reagan, a great "Cold War warrior," helped bring down the ideology of communism --making the U.S. the strongest country in the world at the cost of tripling our national debt. He broke the cycle of double-digit inflation but increased interest rates, due to his unchecked spending on defense. He introduced "Reaganomics," known as "trickle-down" economics --side effects were riches for the wealthy, tighter wages and fewer benefits for the common person (workers).

He also brought about the problems we have today. Smaller government means less oversight and enforcement of federal regulations --an open-door policy for businesses to do what they want. The systems of outsourcing, shipping jobs overseas --better bottom lines, and higher profits. Scandals like Enron, Tyco, Global Crossing, savings and loans scandals, and the rise of "McJobs." An irony: The building housing Commerce and foreign trade is the largest building in D.C., surpassing the Pentagon.

http://ydr.com/story/letters/32158/
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 02:50 PM

<Cartels purpose is to defraud the public by keeping prices high. One of the earliest cartels was J. D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil, which eliminated the competition by secretly fixing transportation costs with the railroads. Rockefeller is famous for saying the only sin is competition. >

Howdy Woj
Great article. I said all along that the lion hated COMPETITION, and that line confirmes it.

NWO is meant to expand the jungle by applying the Law of the Jungle. Most will accept passively, some will resist by violence, but either way--wheater through cheap labor or excuse for war--you become food for the predators. ONLY GOOD TACTIC IS 'DON'T FEED THE LION'...;)
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 02:53 PM

Why journalists should be spare when they work in service of money and for the personal benefit?
We all know that Media are not charitable institution and journalists are the army to fight for Media Owner advantages. . Journalists are not social workers, only very often big hoodlums who operate without responsibility.

The example is Polish TV Polonia .
The biggest source of attack is presidential candidate who want to protect national ownership, and call for economical lustration of leading politics and role of international banking system in Poland.
Andrej Lepper is source of attacks of official Media in Poland. Samoobrona the Lepper
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Posted 12 July 2004 - 08:11 PM

Hussein didnt have many friends, was secular where the
religious leaders had a no power and was divided internally.
The oil was just part of the picture, the greater goal is the Greater Israel Middle east Market which will transform politics and culture and thus undermine the religious hold. All for the reshaping of the worlds NWO.
The twelve years bombing made sure it was going to be an easy victory but not a a cheap one because depleted uranium will
devastate the Coalition armies- expendable servants of the lion thanks to debt.

The problems ENron had and the others reflect the debt money system. If they were so prifitable why creatre criminal methods and rape saving/super funds. They are a smaller model of the western economies, in particular the US, comsuming others assets and futures to stay on their feet.

The media was captured early, you have to control what the public think/know and they can kill any chance of a truely democratic party by slighting them, especially the leader and worse block any information about them because no information
is death- out of sight and out of mind on election day.
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Posted 13 July 2004 - 12:37 PM

Donq; @Smaller government means less oversight and enforcement of federal regulations --an open-door policy for businesses to do what they want. The systems of outsourcing, shipping jobs overseas --better bottom lines, and higher profits. Scandals like Enron, Tyco, Global Crossing, savings and loans scandals, and the rise of "McJobs." An irony: The building housing Commerce and foreign trade is the largest building in D.C., surpassing the Pentagon.@

Small is beautiful not only in electronics but first of all in government.
Defense not trade is Constitution prescribed federal domain.

Enforcement of federal regulations is used as a political pressure and it is source the corruption.

Not equal rights are the base of democracy but equal execution of that law is foundation of the democracy.

Scandal in Enron is result of federal regulation. Fact that people have to keep their pension found in Enron or similar business organizations and not in their own pocket was the source of the crime;
Federal law sets the right of corporation other the right an individual.
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Posted 13 July 2004 - 01:01 PM

Bader; The twelve years bombing made sure it was going to be an easy victory but not a a cheap one because depleted uranium will
devastate the Coalition armies- expendable servants of the lion thanks to debt.

You are right; proof in daily news;

@Efforts to stabilize Afghanistan by establishing a representative government through free and fair elections have been plagued by concerns of violence, as large parts of the country remain insecure

Iraq may be the overarching issue of the 2004 contest

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