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#3681 donquijote

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 03:49 PM

<Powell lied to the UN before the invasion, probably just a slip of the tongue. >

Howdy Bader
So long as America pays her dues to the UN, everything's gonna be alright.

A tough stand against the lie-on would probably threaten their livelihood.;)
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Posted 29 August 2004 - 09:51 PM

Are we protected from Junk Food Corporations?

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 05:27 AM

Phew! 91 postings in a few hours at the last debate, but junk food is definitely one of key areas where the lion eats the poor people--and their gullible kids. The book Fast Food Nation is one of the greatest incriminations of the jungle I've seen. This is multi-billion dollar industry, which also feeds the healthcare industry...

Anyway, I read this article on the dangers of trucking in Iraq and it reminded me of the insecurity of the jungle, where kill or be killed is the law of the land. It's also about big bucks. Will the lion prevail? I doubt it.:(

"It's an irony not lost on the drivers: They have come all the way to Iraq to make enough money to realize the American dream."

In Iraq, 'Road Warriors' Deliver the Goods

Sun Aug 29, 7:55 AM ET

By T. Christian Miller Times Staff Writer

BALAD, Iraq (news - web sites) ? It is 9 p.m. on a Wednesday, and Melvin Winter is going to war.

The 44-year-old truck driver from Greenville, Texas, turns the key of his white Mercedes flatbed truck, revs the engine and rolls up to a chain-link fence topped with barbed wire. On this side is Camp Anaconda, a U.S. supply base. On the other is Iraq.

"Put your game face on," he says, strapping on a helmet and bulletproof vest as the call to roll out crackles across the radio. "It's time to put on the gloves."

Over the next three hours, Winter and the other truck drivers in his convoy will rumble through a landscape of violence and fear. They will take fire from Iraqi insurgents. They will pass through blinding black smoke from roadside fires. They will be stuck for tense moments on a stretch of highway famous for its ambushes.

It will, in sum, be a normal day for the truck drivers of KBR, a subsidiary of Halliburton Co. that finds itself on the front lines of the deadliest war the United States has fought since Vietnam.

Halliburton allowed a reporter to accompany a convoy on a typical run, providing the first glimpse of the hazards faced by its drivers, many of them blue-collar workers seeking to get ahead. Certain security measures were not allowed to be disclosed.

As the Defense Department has contracted out more and more jobs traditionally done by military personnel in order to focus its mission and save money, private companies increasingly have been plunged into the war.

None is more prominent than Halliburton, an oil services company once run by Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites). In 2001, the company won a multibillion-dollar contract to supply all the logistical needs of the U.S. military in Iraq.

As a result, it is difficult to overstate Halliburton's importance to the war effort. Halliburton delivers soldiers' mail and washes their clothes. It provides them with food, toilets and bunks. It ships fuel for tanks and builds conference rooms for generals.

The company and its workers have benefited, but at a cost. In Congress and the presidential campaign, Halliburton has come under attack because of its links to Cheney and Pentagon (news - web sites) audit findings that it has overcharged the government hundreds of millions of dollars.

Workers have paid with their lives. Of Halliburton's 30,000 employees in Iraq ? including more than 7,000 U.S. citizens and thousands of subcontractors from other countries ? 45 have been killed since the company established operations in March 2003.

No job is more dangerous than driving a truck. Of the 18 U.S. citizens killed in Iraq while working for Halliburton, 11 were truckers.

(snip)

Clay Henderson, 34, is the convoy commander and the veteran of the group, with nearly a year in Iraq. A big man with a beard and long hair, he dreams of owning his own ranch one day in the Louisiana countryside where he now has nine horses.

"I want to mess around and do something fun instead of getting up at 3 a.m. and working until midnight and have nothing to show for it at the end of the year," he says.

It's an irony not lost on the drivers: They have come all the way to Iraq to make enough money to realize the American dream.

more...

(I recommend its full reading);)

http://story.news.ya...deliverthegoods
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Posted 30 August 2004 - 07:22 AM

DREAM.

Bush father and Son have used it, Clinton, Haliburtons and other
corporations, mexicans, blue collar wokers, business people,
it used to be gold rushes. But at the end of the day all that loot has to be paid for many times over by themselves, their children and childrens children.
Some might call it - getting a head in life. What is called for is -get a brain.
Then there could be reparations as well.
Its the American nightmare. I wouldnt take it for granted that after the election, if it takes place, the protesting will go away
if Kuhn gets in.

The Passion:
Heads are rolling, unfortunately they are Iraqi heads. I wonder what the bounty on each Iraqi head is, that being paid for by the US taxpayer, calculated from the cost of the war.
Eighteen wheeler bounty hunter, the new American hero.
America the Beautiful, land of hope and gory.
What goes around comes around.
Americans in NY unite! Better late to wake than never.
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Posted 30 August 2004 - 08:16 AM

Originally posted by Bader
DREAM.

Bush father and Son have used it, Clinton, Haliburtons and other
corporations, mexicans, blue collar wokers, business people,
it used to be gold rushes. But at the end of the day all that loot has to be paid for many times over by themselves, their children and childrens children.
Some might call it - getting a head in life. What is called for is -get a brain.
Then there could be reparations as well.
Its the American nightmare. I wouldnt take it for granted that after the election, if it takes place, the protesting will go away
if Kuhn gets in.

The Passion:
Heads are rolling, unfortunately they are Iraqi heads. I wonder what the bounty on each Iraqi head is, that being paid for by the US taxpayer, calculated from the cost of the war.
Eighteen wheeler bounty hunter, the new American hero.
America the Beautiful, land of hope and gory.
What goes around comes around.
Americans in NY unite! Better late to wake than never.



Howdy Bader, good very good. The situation in Iraq is warning us of things to come for the whole world, but we insist in believing we are safe by sticking the head in the sand. We refuse to think, we refuse to listen, we refuse to change. The other day I gave my flyer to two American ladies and they acted kind of offended, as if the peaceful messenger intended any harm. Do they prefer the violent messenger?:confused:

But of course I know better that the ultimate blame lies with the puppeter who sets up the whole show believing himself smart, though walking down the path toward the extinction of the species--ours.:(

PS: If you got a chance go by the junk food debate. Let us know whatever you think...;)
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Posted 30 August 2004 - 08:39 AM

SENATOR JOHN KERRY'S ROYAL LINEAGE



Burke's Peerage has now completed much of the research on Senator John Kerry. This research proves that he is definitely more royal by blood than any former American President, including General Washington (related to 12 of the 25 British Dukes and the late Queen Mother) and both Presidents Bush (related to Queen Elizabeth II, 20 of the 25 Dukes and numerous European Princes). Senator Kerry is related to all the royal houses of Europe.

Senator Kerry's royal descent even includes the Albanian royal house. These relationships are direct through the Senator's mother, Rosemary Forbes. Her father was descended from William Forbes, Laird of Newe. The Baronets of Newe are extant. It is via this family that the Democratic candidate is descended from Henry II, King of England and father of Richard the Lionheart who was leader of the third Crusade in 1189.

Senator Kerry is also closely related to the Winthrop family of Boston, Mass. His maternal grandmother was Margaret Tyndal Winthrop, who was the wife of James Grant Forbes and the granddaughter of Robert Winthrop, Speaker of the House of Representatives, from 1847 to 1849. The Senator's ancestor, John Winthrop, was the first Governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony in the 17th Century. It is this connection that gives Sen. Kerry a descent many times over from Henry III, King of England.

Senator Kerry's father's family was originally Jewish by religion and Burke's Peerage is hoping to document this inheritance. Roger Powell, the leading British genealogist, is on record as saying, "Senator Kerry's Jewish roots appear to have become almost extinguished in favour of his WASP ancestry." We know that the Senator's grandfather gave up the Jewish religion in favour of Roman Catholicism about a hundred years ago. The name was originally Kohn and the family came from what was then Czechoslovakia.

Sen. Kerry is also descended on his mother's side from Henry I, King of France, and his wife, Anne of Kiev. He is a direct descendant of a daughter of King Harold, the last Anglo-Saxon King of England. As a collateral descendant of Constantine Monamacaqs IX, Emperor of Byzantium, Sen. Kerry is related to all the monarchs of the royal house of France, including a double relationship with Francis I, Louis XIV, Louis XV, sadly with Louis XVI (guillotined) and also Louis XIX, Charles X and the present day Louis XX of France.

The above blood line gives Sen. Kerry kinship with the royal houses of Sweden, Norway, Denmark and the princely House of Rus founded in 862 A.D. Amongst his kinsmen can be counted Ivan IV, "The Terrible", Tsar of all the Russias. His descent from the princely House of Rus gives him modern relations, living today, amongst the princely Russian families of Dolgorouky and Obolensky.

The above clearly illustrates the fact that every maternal blood line of Mr. Kerry makes him more royal than any previous American President. Harold Brooks-Baker, director, Burke's Peerage stated today that, "because of the fact that the Presidential candidate with the most royal genes and chromosomes has always won the November Presidential election, the coming election, based on the previous 42(*) Presidents, will go to John Kerry."

(*) This is because President Grover Cleveland had two non-consecutive terms of office.



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Posted 30 August 2004 - 02:39 PM

- While Argentina's military junta was suppressing dissidents in 1976, Secretary of State Henry Kissinger told the country's foreign minister, "If there are things that have to be done, you should do them quickly,"
vice chair of Kissinger's lobbying firm, Kissinger Associates. "The idea that he would tell another country to violate human rights quickly or slowly or under any circumstances is preposterous."

The documents revive the debate about Kissinger's relationship with military dictators in Latin America when he was secretary of state in the Nixon and Ford administrations. It was an era when military officers frequently toppled elected governments and brutalized dissidents, but were accepted by U.S. leaders as anti-communist allies.
Argentina's military rulers seized power in a March 1976, beginning six years of rule in which they kidnapped, tortured and killed dissidents. The government says 8,900 people disappeared over that period; human rights groups put the figure around 30,000. "If you are standing in the position of the generals, that's (how) you would interpret it right away," he said. What was most striking was that Kissinger made no direct appeal to stop the abuses http://story.news.ya...ger_argentina_2

Bader; @"Could a foreign power be in a position to influence US foreign policy?"
For so long Woj I have tried to tell you that.
Rephrase the question: Is it posible for the US to influence their own foreign policy? The answer is no.
They dont own the Federal Reserve to whom they are hopelessly in debt. The US forces are the enforcer of the international bankers- NWO.
Fleischer is an Israeli and Fieth may be the other one who has an Israel passport.
Sharon reminded Peres about three years ago that the Jews controlled the US, they didnt have to worry about US reactions to what they did.
The AIPAC American Israel Public Affairs Committee is one of the most powerful lobby groups in the US. They take members from the two major parties to Israel who want to woo the US jewish vote.
Congressman Moran told people that it was the Jewish influence that determined the war with Iraq.
And the Vatican had established its roots at the very founding of the nation as well.
A rich and powerful freemans country wasnt going to spoil the
ancient tentacles that enveloped and ****ed the life out of
societies.
Bush is just a selected pawn, a puppet on a string.
But its all happenstance, doesnt mean anything. Just like the untruths spoken about Iraq, all just happenstance - move on folks, nothing to see here. @

Analyses of status quo are correct, but what is your conclusion?
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Posted 30 August 2004 - 02:53 PM

Bader; The Passion:
@Heads are rolling, unfortunately they are Iraqi heads. I wonder what the bounty on each Iraqi head is, that being paid for by the US taxpayer, calculated from the cost of the war.
Eighteen wheeler bounty hunter, the new American hero.
America the Beautiful, land of hope and gory.
What goes around comes around.
Americans in NY unite! Better late to wake than never.


But protesting against Bush and voting him out is nothing, Kerry
will carry on just the same, the whole shooting match is corrupted by money-power. @


Americans in NY unite! Unite but for what? :)
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Posted 30 August 2004 - 03:16 PM

<Analyses of status quo are correct, but what is your conclusion? >

I say the conclusion is that "the problem is the puppeteer." You, Woj, sometimes think that a strong empire could stop that but the best defense is the small coop. Even if the empire were successful the little people run the risk of falling prey to their own predator, as it happened in the Soviet Union.:(

You can see this strategy clearly in Iraq. Al Sadr, in having a small army, became a small lion fighting with lion's weapons and was about to be crushed by the big lion--just the way Hussein was--weren't for peaceful smart Al Sistani. How different it is for small groups with unified purpose to defend from the lion using their own weapons. Of course they are unified around violence and we can be unified around economics, though coops can quickly turn to arms if need be. Every man a rifle--Swiss style--and forget about the world...;)
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Posted 30 August 2004 - 03:19 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
Bader; The Passion:
@Heads are rolling, unfortunately they are Iraqi heads. I wonder what the bounty on each Iraqi head is, that being paid for by the US taxpayer, calculated from the cost of the war.
Eighteen wheeler bounty hunter, the new American hero.
America the Beautiful, land of hope and gory.
What goes around comes around.
Americans in NY unite! Better late to wake than never.


But protesting against Bush and voting him out is nothing, Kerry
will carry on just the same, the whole shooting match is corrupted by money-power. @


Americans in NY unite! Unite but for what? :)



Unite for Peace and Justice--what else? Not Kerry certainly...;)
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Posted 30 August 2004 - 03:26 PM

Donq; @Unite for Peace and Justice--what else? Not Kerry certainly...@

Unfortunately you are right ; Kerry would extend war for Iran

--Kerry Would Offer Special Iran Deal, Says Edwards

"A nuclear Iran is unacceptable for so many reasons, including the possibility that it creates a gateway and the need for other countries in the region to develop nuclear capabilities -- Saudi Arabia, Egypt, potentially others," Edwards said. http://www.reuters.c...storyID=6103542

I wonder what Kerry has in mind saying about stopping the Bush agenda?
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Posted 30 August 2004 - 04:36 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
Donq; @Unite for Peace and Justice--what else? Not Kerry certainly...@

Unfortunately you are right ; Kerry would extend war for Iran

--Kerry Would Offer Special Iran Deal, Says Edwards

"A nuclear Iran is unacceptable for so many reasons, including the possibility that it creates a gateway and the need for other countries in the region to develop nuclear capabilities -- Saudi Arabia, Egypt, potentially others," Edwards said. http://www.reuters.c...storyID=6103542

I wonder what Kerry has in mind saying about stopping the Bush agenda?



The going down of Hussein for NOT having "real teeth" makes others "arm to their teeth." We thank Bush for that too...;)
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Posted 30 August 2004 - 05:45 PM

<for their lives, there is always the favorite Pravda whipping boy to blame it on.

Has to some kind of Zionist/Jewish conspiracy going on.!!!

Jump in here and help folks.>

OK, I'll chip in. They--we suspect it's the Jews--make a tear-jerking movie in which the very-bad Nazi farmer runs a concentration chicken-camp, and they--who else--they are the very-good innocent chickens looking for freedom--theirs. What do we get? Of course we get "Chicken Run," a favorite of kids of all ages before they discover it's all a lie.;)

see slide show...:cool:

http://www.aardman.com/chickenrun/
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 01:17 AM

<Come back Aldous Huxley, all is forgiven, the brave new world....

To achieve a society where peace and contentment rules...... a form of pure communism but control with an iron hand... people... controlled from seeking self grandisment.. or a similar system dictated by the taliban....... who sought to control everyone beliefs, motives and way of life. But, their success in giving the population a safer and, would you believe, less drugs was achieved but at a horrendous price.

To give individuals freedom of choice, freedom to elect, freedom to run and develop their own businesses .... we are back to the free market and the inherent competition and the avarice and greed associated with any open society.

The russian domination of the slavic nations, the control and apparent unison between the 'stans' gave a equally corrupt society as the free society gives....... six of one and half a dozen of the other. But less disharmony, less revolts but at a price.

A greater level of discussion and comunication, a balance between the have and have nots, a greater freedom in the inter active exchange of technical information across all subjects.

But, the prejudice and envy will always exist, a greater influence in education from birth would seek to address but all that takes time, across decades. The presumption that the population will be able, the intellectual capability. the list goes on and on.. the arguments and the constant debate will help the means of communicating... the internet making more and more people aware of the needs and conditions of other people can only help in moving towards a greater understanding of our own aims and ideals.

Again, the idea that Hussien was the small predator, but this was only with the tacit approval of the US.... the side ways drilling of Kuwaiti into Iraqi oil fields, the
introduction of PNAC into American politics...... if only it was as simple as some believe...

but... tactics... I would strongly recommend : The Art of War by Sun Tzu.
A vital piece of reading if rushing into war... anywhere.. Hmmm, should it be on the American War dept reading list.. LOL make that the Christmas book list>

This and what you said before are very different...

>Corporate America would never accept it. Where would they sell arms? The invasions, can you justify any in the last twenty years?, will continue and the Halliburtons of this world will wheel and deal with the assets.

Then it will become expediant to finance another regime to over throw what ever regime was in power......and the game plan goes on and the winners are those making the most money.>

You're saying here that if we come up with a better world we'll be attacked by the big lions who'll try to create a conflict in which to sell their war toys, right? Then I respond the solution would be, not to create a smaller lion that justifies their war, and creates a market for more weapons, but to make use of nonviolent tactics--which often suffice--or if it comes to armed conflict, simply create a well trained, but lightly armed militia that would make any such war very expensive for the big lions without creating a profitable market for their war toys. Get it?

As for whether we can build a better world or not, I'm sure we can...;)

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 01:55 AM

Howdy Woj:

The Americans are expendable, just as the British were, but there can be no vacuums so UE must fill much of the gap when it falls away, except the Zionists will be the dominant factor in the destablised/restructuring Middle east.
If the zionists control the oil and gas which UE needs they will
along with their money power sit at the other end of the table from the rep of all Europe as equals.
The question mark hangs over Putin, the X factor.
Clearly there is no intent, or ever been, to help Iraq become what the propoganda said, the zionists are experts in manipulating instablilty/chaos, they have had fifty years expience at creating it and expoliting it.'
They will already be on the inside of what ever developes with any strength in Iraq. The US may have to backtrack to just ruling the main roads for the bodgy govt, while patriotic forces and the govt forces eventually come to an agreement and a sempblance of order. It may end up in the old zionist plan of three regional govts yet- no hurry, a lot of political cleansing can go on in the meantime, saves concentration camps, to eliminate all those who
would want open honest democratic govt.
Class/racist/fascist Israel may well be the model that will be used to settle the new Islam.
Smacks of Kissingers Argentina doesnt it.
And you wanted those bodgy dictators to get their hands on the
Falklands oil. Perhaps thats what Kiss-of-deathingers plan was?
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 04:04 AM

> > Okay. Oh, and he also says that in the White House, he isn't
> > allowed on the couch. I presume this is since that business with
> > the pretzel. Actually... /did/ we ever find out why they /told/ us about
> > that one??
>
> To give liberals something to say when the world found out the liberals'
> candidate blew up his own butt with a hand grenade.

And I think you conservatives get too involved with the small issues
like how Clinton was given oral sex by Monica (nice, no?), or how
Kerry inflated his military record to look cool (don't we aggrandize
our heroism every day?), but ignore conservative politicians that
bring the whole world to war with childish lies...

Do you actually believe that we mean to bring democracy to Iraq while
it's being compromised at the BBC, the former bastion of impartiality?
Have you heard Bush or any other official raise any concerns about it?

Guys, are you happy with being lied to? Think of the consequences
though...:(

"Violence does not and cannot exist by itself; it is invariably
intertwined with the lie" -A.I. Solzhenitzyn
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 06:45 AM

Bader; @The Americans are expendable, just as the British were, but there can be no vacuums so UE must fill much of the gap when it falls away, except the Zionists will be the dominant factor in the destablised/restructuring Middle east.
If the zionists control the oil and gas which UE needs they will
along with their money power sit at the other end of the table from the rep of all Europe as equals.
The question mark hangs over Putin, the X factor.@

Leaders of Russia, France and Germany Władimir Putin, Jacques Chirac and Gerhard Schroeder met in Sochi.
It is sign of big support for Vladimir Putin in Chechnya where election won supported by Russia Ału Ałchanow with 75% votes and at 85% frequency.
This meeting is third one after April 2003, and September 2003. Scchroder daughter adopted Russian babe.

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 08:10 AM

The Canadian zionist meeting Golda Meir attended as a young
zionist was addressed by a Rabbi who spelt it out, the purpose of setting up a state in Palestine had nothing to do with the Real Jews historical past, it was to create a base from which they
(imposter Jews) were to get control of the oil and gas.
You cant beat getting it straight from the horses mouth. I have no doubt she wasnt into conpiracy theories. So I take it as fact
not theory.
However I dont mean to intimate that the zionists rule the world,
although they and the American probably think they do. They might find like Trotski, they have a used by date, once the dirty work is finished- no honour amongst thieves.
Does anyone want to dispute the fact that Jews are expendable to their elite for the cause?

It doesnt surprise me if Russia and Germany develop a relationship, they have both been scourged by the same people
over three generations at least. Now its threatening on a global scale and surely they must smell what has haunted their past.
They are also strengthening their relationship with Iran which
turns a light on a certain portion of Bible prophesy.
Checkout Joe Vials article on a pre-emptive strike against Irans
nuclear power station. It gives an interesting perspective.
Also shows Edwards is talking through a hole in his head. Its amazing how after all the lies in the build up to the invasion of Iraq now they are going through the same sequence over Iran. Are we supposed to believe they have surcomed to their own propoganda? Or is it that the majority of Americans only understand a moron?
This Iraqi business is serious stuff even though it isnt in America, its ten times worse than Sept 11 - on the face of it - beyond the face the number of US young citizens who will become sick cabages because they have been to Iraq over the next ten years will make Sept 11 look like a mere motor accident on the freeway.
As for the Iraqis, it may become largely depopulated because of the radiation, tens of thousands dying of cancers etc.
Mengles was a boy scout with a bad attitude next to this lot.
Kerry and Edwards are a red-herring show, m/p-uppets.

At this point the (chicken run) lady in the mauve dress jumps up
and exclaims- dont believe it, dont believe it, come back to the jewish press., read about our great retirement plan for all depleted chickens....You were saying DonQ .. was I able to mention something about fast foods? Ah, no.
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 08:19 AM

Donq; @To give individuals freedom of choice, freedom to elect, freedom to run and develop their own businesses .... we are back to the free market and the inherent competition and the avarice and greed associated with any open society.
The russian domination of the slavic nations, the control and apparent unison between the 'stans' gave a equally corrupt society as the free society gives....... six of one and half a dozen of the other. But less disharmony, less revolts but at a price.
A greater level of discussion and comunication, a balance between the have and have nots, a greater freedom in the inter active exchange of technical information across all subjects.@


Donq, Can you talk about freedom of streetwalkers? No.

This is what become from Slavic nations free from Russian domination.
They are also free from work, free from home, free from health care only the full of success propaganda.
When more than 20 % of population has no work, you can not talk about freedom only tragedy of living.
When people has no money to feed their children is easy to talk about the corruption of police, but problem is the corrupted government and its allies.
Stealing candies is a crime when one who steals the factory is an investor, entrepreneur.
I am not nervous any more reading; OFFICIAL URGES CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF NUCLEAR ARSENAL
Atomic Energy Agency Director Aleksandr Rumyanstev on 29 August urged the continued development of nuclear weapons, saying that they are "the only type of weapons whose improvement reduces the probability of their use
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 12:53 PM

<At this point the (chicken run) lady in the mauve dress jumps up
and exclaims- dont believe it, dont believe it, come back to the jewish press., read about our great retirement plan for all depleted chickens....You were saying DonQ .. was I able to mention something about fast foods? Ah, no. >

Chicken must fend for themselves against the foxes in America. They should not count on the government they elected to defend them. Actually the government is being run by foxes...:cool:

> > >>Sure enough, there's legislation banning advertising on children
> > television in Denmark and other Scandinavian countries. Should others
> > be protected as well?
> >
> >
> > Interesting question- I do wonder though when the responsibility lies
> > on the parents. At the end they are the ones paying for what their
> > kids consume, and also are the ones setting the example for thier
> > children. IMO it's hard to point the blame at these companies when it
> > is the parents who should be teaching their children about the
> > importance of nutrition and exercise.
>
> Again just go ahead and ignore the fact that so many parents are
> irresponsible and unfit. Does that mean that their children must
> suffer? OF COURSE the responsibility lies with the parents!!! BUT
> THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT SO! That does not change the fact that some
> parents are simply not responsible. So you are saying oh well those
> kids are ****ed, too bad?? That is exactly what you and others are
> saying. Not to mention the children that have no parents in the first
> place. Many unfit parents simply cave into their childrens nagging
> because they dont give a **** they just want to shut their kids up.
> It is those children who need to be protected from unethical
> advertising. This should not even be an issue at all. The fact that
> you call it an "interesting question" is ridiculous. Heaven forbid we
> should make those poor innocent corporations who are just trying to
> make a buck to feed their families, stop polluting the minds of
> innocent children. We would not want their profits to be reduced from
> 20% to 15% now would we? God forbid they should lose a few million
> dollars out of their multi billion dollars of profits. Those poor
> screwed children with bad parents that dont care and are not
> responsible will just have to suffer. People really need to put this
> issue into proper perspective. The profits of these industries are
> already out of control and to weigh those out of control profits
> against the well being of CHILDREN is ****ed up.

Only in America, we can say. We should get rid of all laws to declare
the Law of the Jungle the law of the land. At least everybody would
know what's all about, and there will be less hypocrisy and less waste
in things like the government. Let the corporations rule directly, and
let the people know to fend for themselves.;)
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