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#4041 Bader

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Posted 02 October 2004 - 04:39 AM

between the small Slav mouth and the big anglo-saxon jaw.

It doesnt necessary relate to eating. Notice the propenso
ity of balir an anglo-saxon to tell big stories that have caused the development of big mouth-moving parts. The value of the content of the words is another issue but the instigator of the speaking comes from the brain. A good brain (which Blair hasnt got) can cause a big jaw just as a bad brain, BUT, and here is the difference, no brain means small mouth. Surely.
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 09:58 AM

Originally posted by Bader
avoiding the real issues.
Spot on DonQ.

I have tried saving my posts didnt win that way either



but I see the real issue in

Originally posted by donquijote [B
This proposal is aimed for some Banana Republic down south, though we got banana republic politics here...;)

"One effective way to protest is with bananas, symbolic of the sort of republic the odious Republicans have conspired for us to become.

Here in Dade County, we had serious election fraud with entire cemeteries voting, massive corruption with a stadium, the port authority, kickbacks... [and I'd add, wholesale manipulation of elderly Cuban-American voters by well-financed radio campaigns].

Of all the weapons the people can use against illegitimate authority, there is none that surpasses ridicule."
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iI is proving that kibutz is conspiracy theory .
It is consider fraud when regarding the Cuban
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 10:20 AM

Bader; I see that you don
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 06:41 PM

Howdy Woj:

Trying to save my posts- the page doesnt have a copy option, so I highlighted it and tried to transfer it to Documents and the computer said it was full, hard to believe, so I gave up in disgust.
THis is the problem Woj I have been having getting my posts to send off, a page comes up saying ERROR cant connect even though the little symbol on the bottem shows I am connected.

I didnt recognise any hypothesis, I just thought you were gesting
so I gave one in return. The Anglo-Saxon is amixture of several
peoples who all ended up in the Isles. I have never seen any
records of origins and the education system has preferred the
view that civilisation began in Britain after the Romans
conquered it. And we think we have problems with propoganda today in the media. We are conditioned to the Roman Empire view which we are all heading back to. We are evolving full circle.
Pontifex Maximus is patiently waiting his recognition.
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 08:10 PM

Originally posted by Bader
between the small Slav mouth and the big anglo-saxon jaw.

It doesnt necessary relate to eating. Notice the propenso
ity of balir an anglo-saxon to tell big stories that have caused the development of big mouth-moving parts. The value of the content of the words is another issue but the instigator of the speaking comes from the brain. A good brain (which Blair hasnt got) can cause a big jaw just as a bad brain, BUT, and here is the difference, no brain means small mouth. Surely.



Howdy Bader
Speaking about jaws, let's talk about dental care...;)

Originally posted by koti
Yep,

In Ontario, Canada,

There is free dental care for 'natives' and people on 'welfare' - but not for the working poor. :mad:

Now how many bananos does the bananoista get out of those 24,000 bananos for him/her self for picking them.
What's the tally for them.



So it "pays" to be on welfare... Socialism at its worst.:(

It shouldn't be that way though. One province in Canada (I researched yesterday) offers free dental care for children-- something very good--but that should be expanded to include adults--or at least the poor. Of course, I'm talking about BASIC DENTAL CARE as no one is going to pay the poor to put a gold teeth.;)

In Australia they have the funny situation where Howard pulled the plug on dental care to give priority to war. The bright side of it is that you probably get free dental care in the army.:confused:

But if you don't have it, you can always use a pair of pliers, provided you don't pass out, or if you pass out even better. So there you go...

"He promised that under a Labor government pensioners and veterans would never again try to take out their own teeth with pliers because they could not afford to see a dentist"

Labor promises to restore free dental care
By Louise Dodson
Chief Political Correspondent

A Labor Government would stop the buck-passing on health responsibilities between the Federal and State Governments and restore free dental care for 1.3 million Australians, Mark Latham said.

"The system we have now with politicians squabbling doesn't fix anyone's teeth . . . it doesn't repair rotting gums," Mr Latham said as he excoriated the Howard Government for abolishing in 1996 the dental scheme that provided free care for all health-card holders.

The program would cost $300 million over four years and would wipe out the backlog of dental cases and reduce waiting lists, Mr Latham said.

When former Labor prime minister Ben Chifley inserted an amendment into the constitution in 1946 to enshrine affordable dental treatment as a right, it was supported by Robert Menzies, Mr Latham said.

Accusing the Howard Government of buck-passing and squabbling with the states over provision of services such as free dental care, Mr Latham promised "a great national effort to fix the dental health crisis".

He promised that under a Labor government pensioners and veterans would never again try to take out their own teeth with pliers because they could not afford to see a dentist, citing the case of a Melbourne man who yanked out a tooth without anaesthetic to stop his terrible toothache.

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Oh, in the Banana Revolution we propose COOPS AS AN OPTION, where everthing is free, not much different of the way it is in the kibbutz. Outside, there should be a safety net with fewer, smaller holes than we got now, but private insurance is certainly an option the way it is now.

So the value of the banano dollar is relative to which option you choose.

PS: Koti, PLEASE, don't try the pliers at home...:cool:
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 08:15 PM

Originally posted by Bader
Howdy Woj:

Trying to save my posts- the page doesnt have a copy option, so I highlighted it and tried to transfer it to Documents and the computer said it was full, hard to believe, so I gave up in disgust.
THis is the problem Woj I have been having getting my posts to send off, a page comes up saying ERROR cant connect even though the little symbol on the bottem shows I am connected.



Bader, when you have it highlighted, hit "control+C" and then "control+V" to try it again, or simply save in your files or as email draft whatever.
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 09:05 PM

Originally posted by koti
Well, your saying in words, thus away,

Oh, in the Banana Revolution \..., where everthing is free,

ain't real: it ain't free ? yus agotta do some working !

Where, in a new 'banano' republic everything is based on one's contribution to the social economy ?
Nothing to 'investors', 'speculators', 'money lenders' ( well, given this and that, only a reasonable return on 'capital'. )

OK, in the 'republic' we allow for 'welfare' to those who are really disabled and to the children who are 'orphans'
;)

Dental care to children is not 'free' in Ontario.



OK, it is in Nova Scotia...

Free Dental Care Isn't Enough To Prevent Cavities

Free, universal access to full dental care does not brush away the dental difference between children from different socioeconomic backgrounds, according to a new report.

Children's home dental practices and their parents' educational level were significantly related to dental health.

The researchers evaluated the dental history and dental health of more than 1,200 first-graders in Nova Scotia. The province has provided free, universal dental care since 1975, so all the children in the study had access to care since birth.

The researchers interviewed parents about children's dental care history and examined the children themselves for cavities and other signs of poor dental health.

More than 90% of the children had their first visit to the dentist by at least age 2 and continued to have annual checkups.

But children whose parents had completed a university education had significantly better dental health than those whose parents had a lower educational level, with fewer cavities, fillings and other signs of tooth decay.

Providing access to dental care does not by itself accomplish the goal of eliminating disparities in dental health.

http://www.mercola.c.../7/cavities.htm

Anyway, going back to kibbutz issue, nothing is "free" really as there's no "land of milk 'n honey," but there's a banana land...;)

People who join the kibbutz though are looking for gold but for QUALITY OF LIFE, and often you can't have that even when you have the gold, but not the peace.

Here are some good reasons why many people would join the coops if given the choice...

"Most people are living on Kibbutz Arava for two reasons: 1.) to be able to work for themselves [no politician, no bureaucrat, no boss, in other words, no lion], and 2.) to be able to raise their children in a safe and comfortable environment [in other words, no jungle]. In a world whose cities are increasingly becoming more polarized and violent, these basic wants/needs are synonymous with life on a kibbutz.

Internally, Kibbutz Arava functions rather communally and ecologically. There is a central dining room and commons area. Food that is eaten in the dining room arrives as bulk, wholesale crates, thus eliminating retail wastes such as packaging and plastic wrappers. The kibbutz is a pedestrian community. People are able to walk and ride their bikes to any kibbutz activity. In fact, there are only five leisure cars available for the 130 adult members. On kibbutz, people don't throw much away. When things break, they are fixed either by the garage, carpentry shop, or laundry. Things are not easily thrown away, as items are scarce. There are public commodities, such as a coffee and tea lounge, a pool, an entertainment area, a computer and fax room, a music studio, and a horse stable. By offering these amenities, the kibbutz eliminates the need for everyone to have their own TV, computer, etc [no consumerism, which feeds the lion]."

http://webspawner.co...ers/donquijote1

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I'd favor not regulation (socialism), but competition (banana revolution) to all that army of 'investors', 'speculators', 'money lenders' and other predators out there...:cool:

HAVING OPTIONS IS THE NAME OF THE GAME.

In othe words, the lion at the service of the little animals (real democracy), and not the other way around (li-on democracy)...;)
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 09:39 PM

Howdy DonQ:

After hitting control+C etc and try it again you mean try sending it (post) again?

Koti sounds very flexible in his thinking, when is he going to join in direct?

The social differences between families who live on a good income and those who live on a limiting wage are different. It is crass ignorance (inspite of higher education) and classism to kick the lower income people in the teeth and argue that its a waste of money they dont look after their teeth anyway, they eat crap food etc etc.
If a socialist govt was to suddenly give away a lot of money the lower income families wont change into charming middle income
princeses and princesses over night. Just as free dental care isnt going to make their houses as well painted or drive cars less than five years old.
The politcal parties on the left use the inbalanced Lion system to buy votes. If the dysfunctional system was to get balanced the socialists would be obsolete, that is why people like Marx would expose the finance system. If the dysfunctional system was to get balanced those who do well milking the system ( at the top end as opposed to the lower end by the lefties) will be left high and dry. Neither end want the system to be corrected anymore than the lion. Thus the ends are played off against the majority middle.
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 10:58 PM

my last post should read- "this is why people like Marx WOULDNT
expose the finance system." I said 'would' and left the nt out.

Many think the rich are rich because they 'rob' the poor/because of the poor - which is the same as saying the poor are poor only because of the rich. Many think the poor are poor because they are inferior. They are truisms but not the fundamental situation
regarding the vast majority of humanity.
The truth is only exposed on understanding what the debt money system does to society. Both the rich (higher educated ) and the poor are in ignorance, dumb as each other, both robbed and kept in an adversarial position by the Money Rulers. Thus the two ends and the majority middle are kept divided and powerless.

The rich in the banana republic of the US are so stupid they cannot see that their position today built on the foundations layed by much earlier forebares has been totally eatten out by termites and the only reason it hasnt collapsed already is because the termites are united and holding hands. The day the Lion say clap it will turn to dust overnight. But its not just an 'education' thing, or the media chorus, the presidential contest mocks them in their faces ring-side; its is psychological, they dont want to see.
There is no known remedy for that.

A banana republic is where the people eat the middle bit and throw the skins ahead of them which they subsequently keep slipping on banging their heads on the ground. They spend their time in political debates on how to make the ground softer.
Currently the ground in Iraq is getting very hard, Kerry argues that If they had of held a banana fest and invited the Euros and let them share in throwing the skins away ahead of them the
ground might have been softer. Bush argues that its a better world anyway without Hussein sharing in the banana eating.
This puppet show represents the rich and higher educated in the
most prosperous nation on earth ( maybe in the history of the world) that leads the world. Why? Because they hold the position to confirm or deny. They confirm what they should deny and deny what they should confirm. The majority look to them because they are the successful people in society. It is them who give respectability to the media game, the political game , the money game.


Here's a good poll DonQ:
Where is social justice more represented?
a. Where the majority who eat few bananas but have to walk on all the skins?
or
b. Where the majority pick up all the skins and dump them where they belong?

Revolting subject isnt it?
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Posted 03 October 2004 - 08:54 AM

Originally posted by donquijote
People who join the kibbutz though are looking for gold but for QUALITY OF LIFE, and often you can't have that even when you have the gold, but not the peace.

Here are some good reasons why many people would join the coops if given the choice...

"Most people are living on Kibbutz Arava for two reasons: 1.) to be able to work for themselves [no politician, no bureaucrat, no boss, in other words, no lion], and 2.) to be able to raise their children in a safe and comfortable environment [in other words, no jungle]. In a world whose cities are increasingly becoming more polarized and violent, these basic wants/needs are synonymous with life on a kibbutz.

Internally, Kibbutz Arava functions rather communally and ecologically. There is a central dining room and commons area. Food that is eaten in the dining room arrives as bulk, wholesale crates, thus eliminating retail wastes such as packaging and plastic wrappers. The kibbutz is a pedestrian community. People are able to walk and ride their bikes to any kibbutz activity. In fact, there are only five leisure cars available for the 130 adult members. On kibbutz, people don't throw much away. When things break, they are fixed either by the garage, carpentry shop, or laundry. Things are not easily thrown away, as items are scarce. There are public commodities, such as a coffee and tea lounge, a pool, an entertainment area, a computer and fax room, a music studio, and a horse stable. By offering these amenities, the kibbutz eliminates the need for everyone to have their own TV, computer, etc [no consumerism, which feeds the lion]."
HAVING OPTIONS IS THE NAME OF THE GAME.
In othe words, the lion at the service of the little animals (real democracy), and not the other way around (li-on democracy)...;)



Kibutz is not communism, democracy, but the military system with Central Kibutz on the top.
Sort of bee colony. Every new Queen emerges after the mother queen departs with the swarm immediately attempts to destroy the others.
If two or more emerge at the same time, they fight to the death. Society of mating drones.
Choices are but only the regarding of position during mating.
I notice you suggests dancing on the floor.:) But I still see the application of the kibutz as a retirement community for people unable to lead single life.
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Posted 03 October 2004 - 09:28 AM

Originally posted by Bader
Howdy DonQ:

Also previously summarised as: the love of money is the roote of all evil.
Have we reached the grand final? I thought we had many months ago but me and Woj had a good chat on our own and it got going again when you rejoined.
Perhaps Woj has taken trip to Britain. He might be in the British Museum right now doing research as marx did to try an woo the world. Im not sure as to whether Lenin did his apprenticeship there as well. Without British guidance ( and Wall ST finance) he will not unit the Slavs.
Right? Wink.

Meanwhile the politicians work hard to deceive everyone that they arent on the same ship.



Intentions are not important , but results are. Lenin accepted money which were intended money to finish Russia but they helped Russia to send Gargarin first human and Slav in cosmos.
US sponsored Taliban in Afghanistan against Russia now fight with his soldiers. US paid Al-Quida against Serbs in Yugoslavia now has Al-Quidans world wide.

Yesterday The G-7 didn
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Posted 03 October 2004 - 09:55 AM

Originally posted by Bader
Here's a good poll DonQ:
Where is social justice more represented?
a. Where the majority who eat few bananas but have to walk on all the skins?
or
b. Where the majority pick up all the skins and dump them where they belong?

Revolting subject isnt it?



An answer is easy ;
sheep are not lions.
Quantity not always becomes quality.
Therefore Revolution were only in Russia and France.

Revolution needs mind and brain.
Sheep are content even when they are feed with cannibal cuisine. :)
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Posted 03 October 2004 - 06:46 PM

Israel is a military fascist state. The Kibutz is a military model
owned by the state. Its still the jewish centralised thinking where the unit/structure rules over the indiviual. Its the essense of communism which they promoted more than any other people. Thus is isnt a true coop and to talk about them using the word coop interchangably merely puts people off the coop because as Woj pointed out its (kibutz) attracts people who are not inclind to make it one their own which the majority prefer.
Communal living was a fad in the seventies after the popularity of cannabis and protest and the onslaught of the sexual revolution
and thus to get away in agroup away from towns and the law
was attractive for some. I doubt any exist today and if they arent run militantly the hygine goes and then the people.
Kibutz is an alternative lifestyle and to share the same tv is great if you go into the tv room at 2 in the morning so you dont have to fight over the channel.
The lion takes the profit off the top but as an alternative lifestyle its easier to pretent that the lion doesnt exist.
What was it we got posted a few months back, the Sephardic kibutz profits go to the state and the rest to the Ashkenazi elite.
No lion no problem.
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Posted 03 October 2004 - 11:38 PM

Originally posted by koti
"I've also heard the africans have something called "pommbe" if I remember correctly that is made of fermented smashed bananas and is apparently truly foul tasting but very potent."

Hey,

No we's agonna get some $ for dem bananos. :D



"Pommbe" is probably good, but nothing substitutes a good banana dance to lift up the good spirits...;)


Anyway, I'm sure places like Africa or Central America can benefit most from the Banana Revolution as these coops will secure their livelihood. If they turned a desert into paradise, I'm sure they'll work in more fertile land. This same thing was proposed by the famous French agronomist Rene Dumont and he has written extensively on the subject. (I'm not proposing kibbutz per se, just drawing on their experience.)

Of course, one thing is the Banana Revolution, and another the Spaghetti Revolution, which not only relies more on meatballs than on mashed banana, but also has different priorities, and feeding the people is not one of them. Perhaps challenging junk food is...;)

"For example, the people of Soweto in South Africa need, among other things, access to drinkable water. There are two ways of going about it v the Nepad way, and the people's way."

The Banana Revolution is "the people's way," the water well so to speak...

"Access to water is a human right, not a privilege. And the same is true of food, adequate housing, electricity, basic education and essential transport."

"If the experience of Argentina does not give us pause, Africa will have to learn, bitterly, from its own experiences."

Will Nepad Prove Another
False Start for Africa?
By YASH TANDON
One of civil society's gripes with the New Partnership for Africa's Development, Nepad, given a limited endorsement last week by the G-8 summit in Kananaskis, Canada, is that, although Nepad talks about "ownership" of the process by the African people, and indeed exhorts the people to "mobilise themselves" behind it, they have not been consulted in the process.

After the presidents of South Africa, Nigeria, Senegal and Algeria had discussed Nepad among themselves, they appear to have gone first to Western capitals and representatives of international private capital before consulting their own people.

Presumably, the people will follow. But the mood in Africa is changing; and putting the donor countries and international private capital ahead of the people of Africa in the consultation process was not, to say the least, a wise strategy. It begs the famous question that Rene Dumont raised in the 1960s about Africa's development: Is this yet another "false start"?

The path that Nepad offers is the neo-liberal path that is espoused by the IMF, the World Bank and the WTO. Neo-liberalism puts "integration into the globalised economy" v meaning liberalisation of markets and the free movement of capital v at the centre of the development paradigm. Can an "African renaissance" really take place in further integration of Africa into an asymmetric globalised system that is dominated by a few countries?

The leaders of Africa do not seem to see any alternative. Nepad appears to lean towards the creation of the "right" kind of conditions within Africa v good governance as understood by the Northern partners, an open economy, and partial measures on debt relief, increased aid from the North, and greater access to their markets. At one point, Nepad does recognise that globalisation "has increased the ability of the strong to advance their interests to the detriment of the weak," but this is only a descriptive statement; it has no strategic or tactical significance.

Is there an alternative strategy to achieve the noble goals of "self-reliance" and "ownership" of the process of development?

The point to begin is with human needs, not further integration of Africa's economy into the process of globalisation. This is not a pedantic but a profoundly strategic difference. For example, the people of Soweto in South Africa need, among other things, access to drinkable water. There are two ways of going about it v the Nepad way, and the people's way.

In the Nepad way, you open this essential service to international competition; whoever is able to bring in the capital from outside can have control over the distribution of water, and must be able to charge "cost-recovery" prices. If people cannot pay, then their water must be cut off until they are able to pay. In the process, the government of South Africa must create a climate of confidence (above all, the ability of the investor to externalise his profits and eventually the capital value of his assets) so that an investor is induced to come to South Africa rather than to, say, Vietnam or Chile or Rumania (because capital is global, and must be lured with attractive terms to come to Africa, so say our leaders.) This is the Nepad way.

The people's way starts with the recognition that water is a basic human right. Its provision to all households in Soweto (our example) is the government's responsibility that cannot be turned on or off on the basis of the people's ability to pay. Access to water is a human right, not a privilege. And the same is true of food, adequate housing, electricity, basic education and essential transport. Subject these to the whims of profit, and you have subverted the human rights of the people.

(snip)

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. The practical effect of Nepad would be to surrender the human rights of the people of Africa (their rights to food, water, energy) to the whims of a volatile and untrustworthy global capital. If the experience of Argentina does not give us pause, Africa will have to learn, bitterly, from its own experiences.

http://www.nationaud...z_Opinion7.html
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Posted 04 October 2004 - 12:05 AM

<After hitting control+C etc and try it again you mean try sending it (post) again?>

Howdy Bader
Try it a second time, and if it doesn't work save it as draft mail, etc.

<Koti sounds very flexible in his thinking, when is he going to join in direct?>

I think is a "she," but I do agree.

<The social differences between families who live on a good income and those who live on a limiting wage are different. It is crass ignorance (inspite of higher education) and classism to kick the lower income people in the teeth and argue that its a waste of money they dont look after their teeth anyway, they eat crap food etc etc.>

But education can level off class differences to the highest degree, and then choose a minimum standard, like basic dental care for all. For example, I know people who go around with a rotten tooth for lack of dental care. She swallows that infection everyday, in the hope of someday being able to afford it.:cool:

<If a socialist govt was to suddenly give away a lot of money the lower income families wont change into charming middle income
princeses and princesses over night. Just as free dental care isnt going to make their houses as well painted or drive cars less than five years old. >

Well, we don't expect miracles and absolute leveling off would be in the realm of the fantastic, perhaps science fiction...;)

<The politcal parties on the left use the inbalanced Lion system to buy votes. If the dysfunctional system was to get balanced the socialists would be obsolete, that is why people like Marx would expose the finance system. If the dysfunctional system was to get balanced those who do well milking the system ( at the top end as opposed to the lower end by the lefties) will be left high and dry. Neither end want the system to be corrected anymore than the lion. Thus the ends are played off against the majority middle.>

Well said...;)
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Posted 04 October 2004 - 12:23 AM

<The truth is only exposed on understanding what the debt money system does to society. Both the rich (higher educated ) and the poor are in ignorance, dumb as each other, both robbed and kept in an adversarial position by the Money Rulers. Thus the two ends and the majority middle are kept divided and powerless.>

I'm afraid though that any effort to lift up the poor will be opposed by the rich. And this attitude can only work to their downfall. They say "everything or nothing.":confused:

<The rich in the banana republic of the US are so stupid they cannot see that their position today built on the foundations layed by much earlier forebares has been totally eatten out by termites and the only reason it hasnt collapsed already is because the termites are united and holding hands. The day the Lion say clap it will turn to dust overnight. But its not just an 'education' thing, or the media chorus, the presidential contest mocks them in their faces ring-side; its is psychological, they dont want to see.
There is no known remedy for that. >

These people are real sociopaths. They may not be the puppeteer, but they sure want to be...:(

<A banana republic is where the people eat the middle bit and throw the skins ahead of them which they subsequently keep slipping on banging their heads on the ground. They spend their time in political debates on how to make the ground softer.
Currently the ground in Iraq is getting very hard, Kerry argues that If they had of held a banana fest and invited the Euros and let them share in throwing the skins away ahead of them the
ground might have been softer. Bush argues that its a better world anyway without Hussein sharing in the banana eating.
This puppet show represents the rich and higher educated in the
most prosperous nation on earth ( maybe in the history of the world) that leads the world. Why? Because they hold the position to confirm or deny. They confirm what they should deny and deny what they should confirm. The majority look to them because they are the successful people in society. It is them who give respectability to the media game, the political game , the money game.>

They sure behave like predators, and more than one boss fits the type.


<Here's a good poll DonQ:
Where is social justice more represented?
a. Where the majority who eat few bananas but have to walk on all the skins?
or
b. Where the majority pick up all the skins and dump them where they belong?

Revolting subject isnt it? >

I'd go for b. Bananas for all.:cool:
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Posted 04 October 2004 - 12:28 AM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
Kibutz is not communism, democracy, but the military system with Central Kibutz on the top.
Sort of bee colony. Every new Queen emerges after the mother queen departs with the swarm immediately attempts to destroy the others.
If two or more emerge at the same time, they fight to the death. Society of mating drones.
Choices are but only the regarding of position during mating.
I notice you suggests dancing on the floor.:) But I still see the application of the kibutz as a retirement community for people unable to lead single life.



I think kibbutz is for people who love people, not for retired people only.

True, kibbutz could be military and because of that can be effective deterrent to the lion.;)
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Posted 04 October 2004 - 12:34 AM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
An answer is easy ;
sheep are not lions.
Quantity not always becomes quality.
Therefore Revolution were only in Russia and France.

Revolution needs mind and brain.
Sheep are content even when they are feed with cannibal cuisine. :)



Few sheep are convinced sheep. They use camouflage too and fake to be sheep. Most are there until the right time comes. They must also be assured that no new lion awaits them.

That's why we say "no lion no problem!":cool:

THE FRIENDLY LION

(This story is a loose interpretation of a longer story I've read. Nevertheless the moral remains the same...)

Once upon a time there was a Black Sheep who was rejected by her sisters the white sheep... One day though a friendly lion approached her and told her: "Why don't you jump outside the fence where the grass is greener?" She, suspecting foul play, said: "You would eat me." The Lion, insisting, said: "You look so skinny, that you wouldn't make a bite for me." Then the Black Sheep, remembering how how hungry her sisters kept her, and realizing the logic of the friendly lion, jumped to the other side...

And it was this way that she grew beautiful and plumpy. Then the Lion approached her again. "I bet you your sisters wouldn't recognize you by now," he said. "They would die of envy," he added.

Her sisters, upon seeing her, having turned into the best looking sheep they've ever seen, and realizing how friendly the Lion really was, jumped themselves to the other side. And it was said that they themselves became beautiful and plumpy. In fact it was almost Paradise if it wasn't for the fact that one disappeared now and then...
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Posted 04 October 2004 - 01:23 AM

I guess I can say of Michael what he thought Arafat would say after receiving his letter: "Hey, who is this guy?"

And I never got any reply from Michael either. He may be challenging the lion, but not the jungle. And THERE lies the problem, man...:confused:

Well, we sort of know, another puppet in the puppet show...;)

Dear Friends,

This is it: One month to D-Day! That's "Dump Bush Day," November 2nd.

It's now time to roll up our sleeves -- each and every one of us -- and get to work. There will be nearly 10 million of you who will read this letter either on my list or on my site. An army of ten million cannot be defeated! The time for hitting the snooze button has passed, voter registration deadlines start Monday and we only get one shot at this!!!

My plan is simple. Will you join me in the following?

1. REGISTER FIVE PEOPLE TO VOTE THIS WEEKEND. There are only a few days left in most states before voter registration is cut off. Keep asking like-minded people you know if they are registered. If they are not, take them to this website where you can show them where they need to go to get registered. Offer to take them there yourself. Take them to lunch afterward! If you can, pick up registration forms from your local city or county clerk (or get them from you local Democratic Party or Kerry HQ). Carry them with you everywhere you go. Hook up with local groups standing outside shopping centers and events this weekend or Monday or Tuesday and register people there. Nothing is more critical in the next 48 to 72 hours than to get our people registered. The wealthy and the conservatives are already registered -- the poor, the single moms, the recent transplants to your town are not. And neither are students and young adults (check local and state laws, some of which make it very hard for college students to register and vote). VOTER REGISTRATION ENDS ON MONDAY IN Arkansas, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Kentucky, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas and Virginia. Make no mistake, if you live in any of these states
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Posted 04 October 2004 - 02:48 AM

Bader, I don't know if the poor are being pitted against the rich, but they certainly are the losers...:(

'We are witnessing a level of inequality in wealth distribution that makes the extremes of medieval feudalism pale in comparison. We've created, in the words of Jeff Gates, "a sumptuous heaven for some, an ungodly struggle for most, and a living hell for many." Newspapers give us daily reports of stock prices, rejoicing when the stock exchanges rise, but rarely mention when consumer debt-loads become unbearably high. In 1998, at the height of the boom of the 1990s, more people filed for bankruptcy in the United States than went to college. In 1999, three men - Bill Gates, Paul Allen, and Warren Buffet - had a net worth greater than the combined GDP of the 41 poorest nations and their 550 million people.

We need to talk about this because, in this sea of inequality, the rising tide isn't lifting all the boats. It's sinking a lot of them. Working people are experiencing increasing insecurity. They are no longer sure that they or their children will find decent work paying a living wage, or that anyone will help them out if they lose their jobs, get sick, or grow old. As the richer get richer and the poor get poorer and more numerous, increasing numbers of people experience feelings of powerlessness, social exclusion, chronic anxiety, low self esteem, social isolation, and the sense that life is out of control. This contributes substantially to heart disease, depression, and other debilitating and deadly ailments. A large and growing body of medical literature says that wealth inequality and the resultant insecurity are among the leading causes of disease, disability and death.

Some say there's no cause for concern if wealth is concentrating among the few, as long as total wealth is increasing. But there's a problem with that. Look at California. What's taken place there in recent years exemplifies what happens when wealth becomes increasingly concentrated in the hands of the few.

In the 1990s, no state in the nation generated more wealth than California. Silicon Valley, the epicenter of the computer industry, and Hollywood, the center stage of the world's entertainment industry, were generating new millionaires by the minute. But the distribution of this growing wealth was becoming increasingly unequal. In the United States as a whole, the richest 1 percent now earn more per year than the bottom 40 percent combined. In California, the richest 1 percent now earn more per year than the bottom 60 percent.

Wealthy households, of course, wield vastly disproportionate political power. But they have tended to be less interested in public services that support the general welfare and more interested in isolating themselves from social problems. Walled off behind gated communities and windows with iron bars, they have been more inclined to spend public funds to build prisons than to improve social conditions. In an eerie mirror image, the two hottest areas in California's construction industry today are the building of gated residential communities and the building of gated prisons.'

http://www.foodrevol...org/havenot.htm
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