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#4261 Bader

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 06:28 PM

Democracy is where people read what to think, instead of thinking what to read. Perhaps only journalists and politicians should vote, it would be a lot cheaper to get the same result.
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:27 AM

It is human way to see what we want to see .
Therefore it is nice to know that in MONTEVIDEO, Uruguay - Leftist candidate Tabare Vazquez declared victory in Uruguay's presidential election Sunday.
Vazquez will become the first leftist president in Uruguayan history, aligning this small South American country with a region wide political shift leftward.
http://news.yahoo.co...l=index&cid=734

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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Bader
Ronald Reagan should know that the days of govts deciding on whethers its cheaper to go to war than not going to war are long gone. Govts dont make those decisions. None of any significance happened in his life time. Wars were the result of
decisins made over govts.

Lepper could do worse Woj, he could get a doctorate for Georgie-boy!



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Posted 01 November 2004 - 02:00 PM

Pakistan's President Gen. Pervez Musharraf remains as army chief, despite the military leader's earlier promise to rule as a civilian by the year's end.

Lawmakers in the upper house of parliament, which is dominated by the pro-Musharraf ruling party, approved the bill in a voice vote. The opposition has condemned Musharraf's retention of his army post, , as consolidation of a military dictatorship.
Musharraf, a key ally in the U.S.-led war on terrorism, took power in coup five years ago. He oversaw parliamentary elections in 2002 but remains the dominant force in Pakistan.
http://story.news.ya...istan_musharraf

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Posted 01 November 2004 - 02:13 PM

U.N. Court: Milosevic May Defend Himself.
Prosecutors had urged the judges not to let Milosevic resume defending himself, saying his politicized statements show he is unfit as a lawyer.
Milosevic is now expected to resume presenting arguments that ignore the charges against him and claim the trial is politically motivated by his enemies in the United States, and NATO. http://news.yahoo.co...l=index&cid=732

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Posted 01 November 2004 - 02:24 PM

Norway's embassy in Latvia closed for fear of terrorist attack

Klepsvik refused to reveal details about the closure of the embassy in Riga, but said it has nothing to do with the US warning to its citizens about possible terrorist attacks in the Nordic and Baltic states.
The US State Department, through its own embassies in Finland and Latvia, warned US citizens in the Nordic and Baltic countries to be on the alert http://news.xinhuane...ent_2165620.htm

Norway gave secrete hide of the electric boat Missouri after the Kursk tragedy.
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Posted 02 November 2004 - 07:35 AM

Howdy Woj:
I have been referring to Mr Soros, when I use "georgie-boy".
Lepper could have got a Dr from GS. eg Doctor of Democracy!

Czajkowski was nt the only famous person who was h+p, so was Lord Keynes.

Tell me more about the Norway matter re the Kursk.

The Milosovich case is a real money spinner for the prosticuters.
Its more like an ethnic revenge and has nothing to do with justice.
Its on a par with the invasion of Iraq based on lies.
Most people have probably forgotten the UN embargo/sanctions against Iraq over a decade long which was also based on the same lies and the hundreds of thousands of children that died,
no doubt the UN will look forward to Bush being the scapegoat
to hide the blood on their hands. This mockery of a court is of the
same sickness. The UN is more dangerous than Hussein and Bush put together could ever be.
They have had to resort to hearsay evidence against Milosovich because they are so desperate.

If Bush or Kerry wanted democracy instead of these two-bit dictators, they would just need to mind their own business.
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Posted 02 November 2004 - 10:30 AM

Originally posted by Bader
Howdy Woj:

Tell me more about the Norway matter re the Kursk.

The Milosovich case is a real money spinner for the prosticuters.
Its more like an ethnic revenge and has nothing to do with justice.
Its on a par with the invasion of Iraq based on lies.
Most people have probably forgotten the UN embargo/sanctions against Iraq over a decade long which was also based on the same lies and the hundreds of thousands of children that died,
no doubt the UN will look forward to Bush being the scapegoat
to hide the blood on their hands. This mockery of a court is of the
same sickness. The UN is more dangerous than Hussein and Bush put together could ever be.

If Bush or Kerry wanted democracy instead of these two-bit dictators, they would just need to mind their own business.



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Posted 02 November 2004 - 01:03 PM

Presidential election handed to voters or solved by Congress? With equal number of the votes, president of US will be elected by House of Representatives and vice president by Senate.
Would be this democratic?
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#4270 Bader

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Posted 02 November 2004 - 06:27 PM

The general Assembly has a say, like the general public and then the elite who control the power do what they like.

Thats also what party politics is all about.

Maybe they are trying to condition the US into having a one party state.

I remember now, Woj, the controversy surrounding the US
submarine and the suspected collision with the Kursk. Be interesting to know if either sub was aware that the other was so close. Purhaps one of them learned something significant they other didnt.
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Posted 02 November 2004 - 07:39 PM

Originally posted by Bader
I remember now, Woj, the controversy surrounding the US
submarine and the suspected collision with the Kursk. Be interesting to know if either sub was aware that the other was so close. Purhaps one of them learned something significant they other didnt.



Russian nuclear submarine fires ballistic missile
It is the first launch by the Pacific Fleet in 2004. .
The combat submarines of the Russian navy are intensively "breaking in" new-generation missiles. Thus, the team of the DmitryDonskoi submarine of the North Fleet on Sept. 24 carried out "jump" testing of the latest ballistic missile "Bulava", This intercontinental ballistic missile has capability to change course and altitude in order to effectively overcome successive anti-missile defense lines.
The "Bulava" is expected to arm promising new-generation submarines, as well as the Typhoon-type submarines.
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Posted 02 November 2004 - 07:48 PM

In 1971, he was elected president of the UAE, and reelected in 1976, 1981, 1986, 1991 and 2001.:)

It reminds me that Bush and Kerry criticized Byelorussian Lukashenka decision to start the third term. http://www.xinhuanet...lish/index.htm:)

Allies have only values. :)
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Posted 03 November 2004 - 10:54 AM

McCain-Feingold, made it illegal for corporations, unions, and wealthy individuals to give ``soft money'' -- donations whose size or purpose isn't regulated by the government -- to political parties and candidates.
Soft money has flowed back into the system through ``527'' organizations, non-party groups left largely unregulated by McCain-Feingold.
The , corporations have largely stopped giving soft money, now that 527s, named after the section of the tax code under which they're organized, are the main conduit for unregulated donations.
In the vacuum created by their absence, the soft money now is coming from extremely wealthy, and harshly partisan, ideologues.
According to IRS data collected by Noble's group, the most publicized of these true believers -- George Soros, Peter Lewis of Progressive Corp., and Hollywood mogul Steven Bing -- have together donated more than $50 million to anti-Bush 527s. An additional $53 million has come from two labor unions: the Service Employees International Union and the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees.
On the right wing, Alex Spanos of the AG Spanos Companies and oilman T. Boone Pickens have together pumped almost $10 million into anti-Kerry 527s.
More recently, the Media Fund, a 527 funded in part by Soros and his fellow fat felines, released radio ads alleging Bush administration favoritism toward the bin Laden family after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
That ad, said the Annenberg Political Fact Check, ``is among the worst distortions we've seen in what has become a very ugly campaign.''
Ugly campaigns are nothing new, of course. But 527s are making this one uglier. And while political parties are often unappetizing collections of shady operators, their general effect, as the British statesman Edmund Burke pointed out 200 years ago, is to moderate political debate. It's hard to imagine a mainstream party having the nerve to underwrite ads as scurrilous as those produced by the 527s.
: A reform designed to clean up politics by regulating donations to political parties has in effect ``outsourced'' the work of political parties to highly ideological groups that operate with scarcely any regulation at all.

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:26 AM

It would be very unfortunately if Slavs let Kerry , the *milk brother of Mrs Albright* win election in US.

Most of Kerry supporters were the supporters the US war on Slavs in Yugoslavia. They should pay for it now and forever. :)
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Posted 03 November 2004 - 06:06 PM

Howdy Woj:

Why in the Chinese news?
Wouldnt you suppose that China will have the notion that she should rule the Pacific, just like Israel the Middle East, they both believe they are the elite race.
They would want Russia the think they are guests of China, when they play military games in the pacific. They would snoop as much as the Americans, who dont belong in Hawaii.
They have been promised Taiwan back.

The 527 loop:
We can see why Georgie-boy was made a rich man, he has a job to do.
I havent seen the results, last I saw Bush only had a couple to go
so looked like he had it.

All -lies have only values>

yeah, pitty they werent free to stand by them. They are owned by debt, borrower is slave to the lender.
When families think of migration to the US they should be aware that their children will be cannon fodder of the international bankers.
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Posted 03 November 2004 - 06:12 PM

Looks like many who join the union cant join the union currency.
This is a local version of the global market.

Poland, Hungary, Czech, Cyrus and Malta are subject to 'excessive deficit proceedure' which would be like an African country undergoing armstisting by the IMF, in order to not make any negative impacts but on the otherside their economies real become one so the stronger members and the bigger corporation
ie the bigger cows graze where they like and eat what the little cows once had to themselves.
Thats the brotherhood of man.
I would call it the botherhood of man. All roads lead (back)to Rome.
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Posted 04 November 2004 - 09:44 AM

....George Bush is not the British pound.
Billionaire investor George Soros thought he could run Bush out of the White House in the same way he pushed sterling out of the Exchange Rate Mechanism in 1992.
He was wrong.
Soros, chairman of Soros Fund Management LLC, spent $26.5 million to defeat Bush, more than any single donor or political action committee.
``I'm really proud of what I have done,'' Soros said on Oct. 28 at the National Press Club in Washington.
His investors wouldn't be happy with that kind of return.
In 1992, Soros bet $10 billion that the British government would not be able to defend the trading band for sterling and would be forced to let it fall.
He was right. He made $1 billion, or a 10 percent return on his investment.
All he has to show for his bet on Kerry is a goose egg. Democratic minister-without-portfolio Soros will have to wait four more years to be a player again.
Buying the Senate isn't as easy as buying a Senate seat.
New Jersey Democratic Senator Jon Corzine spent an estimated $60 million of his own fortune to buy himself a Senate seat in 2000. As head of the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee this year, Corzine was reportedly a whiz at raising money. Unfortunately, he led his party to defeat.
The GOP increased its Senate majority to 54 seats from 51. The Democrats have 44 seats, down from 49, with Alaska still undecided. (Jim Jeffords of Vermont is an independent.)
The biggest blot on his record was the defeat of Senate minority leader Tom Daschle. Thune. It may have been only one seat in sparsely populated South Dakota, but it was a big symbolic victory for the GOP.
Let them pitch Botox.
Hollywood and the music world came out in force for John Kerry. Bruce and John (Springsteen and Kerry) shared the stage at some high-visibility events over the past week, two millionaires united in their struggle for the little guy.
I could never understand why anyone would care what the folks in la-la land think about anything except the best Beverly Hills plastic surgeon.
The best strategists can't spin straw into gold.
Kerry's loss means Hillary doesn't have to wait until 2012 for her presidential bid. Carville and Begala have four years to figure out how to turn some of the red states blue, which is a tough assignment with the deep-blue Hillary.

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Posted 04 November 2004 - 10:12 AM

Originally posted by Bader
Why in the Chinese news?
Wouldnt you suppose that China will have the notion that she should rule the Pacific, just like Israel the Middle East, they both believe they are the elite race.
They would want Russia the think they are guests of China, when they play military games in the pacific. They would snoop as much as the Americans, who dont belong in Hawaii.
They have been promised Taiwan back.



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Posted 04 November 2004 - 11:37 AM

Originally posted by Bader
Wouldnt you suppose that China will have the notion that she should rule the Pacific, just like Israel the Middle East, they both believe they are the elite race.



When majority here (Pliny at all) bless the world competition , I see it as a nonsense.
Progress belongs to elite societies. Such example of elite society I consider the Greeks.. .
When competition societies create and watch soup operas, the elite societies hundreds years ago create and watch their tragedies in their great dramatic competitions.
They live with Euripides the high idealism, the exalted sense of duty and obligation,
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Posted 04 November 2004 - 06:14 PM

Thas the same disposition as Israel who is only trying to protect
what she believes is hers- from the Nile to the otherside of the Euphrates. The best way to protect it is to control it.

I liked your Greek tragedy/competition summary, you are not wrong.
INteresting how people will emphasise competition, when it is the natural by-product of freedom.
One would think that if society had economic freedom (social justice) then we would see the greatest natural and possitive competition. But the system is always tilted towards creating an elite. So the aim is constructed biased competition, negative competition.
Yeah, the drama goes back to the beginning. Cain murdered Able
over a moral principle regarding 'faith'.
History also shows power and knowledge from thr dark side is also given to those who serve them making them elites over the
masses, which drives the biggest dramas today.
Georgie-boy is one clear case of one made powerful because he is a server. Many wouldnt know who they serve.

The jury is still out regards the drama of the Kerry 'competition',
as far as im concerned. I suspect there was a lot of theatre in it,
so your connection with Greek tragedy hold well.
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