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#4401 woj1@cyberonic.

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Posted 21 November 2004 - 10:34 AM

Originally posted by donquijote
"Arafat is taking with him to the grave the secret of the bank accounts,The Palestinian people are among the poorest in the world, while their leaders are among the richest."



One's hate message against Arafat , kills message of virtues of kibbutz.
World would not accept idea that Arafat money would support kibbutz.
Still Bill Gates fortune can help fight homelessness in USA.

Downgrading of Arafat takes life from kibbutz. . . :)
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Posted 21 November 2004 - 10:56 AM

France to sell up to 600 tonnes of gold

The Bank of France and the French finance ministry yesterday agreed to sell up to 600 tonnes of gold reserves over the next five years and use the proceeds to help the country's deficit-ridden budget.
of research," the central bank and finance ministry said in a joint statement.
Germany plans to sell up to 600 tonnes in coming years and the Netherlands plans to dispose of 165 tonnes. Switzerland said it would sell 130 tonnes,
http://news.ft.com/c...000e2511c8.html


What will value of dollar after this selling?
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Posted 21 November 2004 - 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Bader
I can see who the lion-side is while the natives live amongst the rubble, thanks to the UN.




Costa Rica's proposal, supported by US and 61 other countries, called for the prohibition of all forms of human cloning, including the cloning of human embryos for the purpose of medical research.

The UN General Assembly's legal committee decided Friday to abandon its efforts to draft an international convention banning the cloning of human beings, as human embryonic stem cell research . .
http://www.xinhuanet...glish/index.htm

Of course not everybody is aware that Costa Rica's /US proposal it is not about ethic but biological welfare.
International community will not agree to be cheated on international agreements who obliged the small and don
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Posted 21 November 2004 - 02:00 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
One's hate message against Arafat , kills message of virtues of kibbutz.
World would not accept idea that Arafat money would support kibbutz.
Still Bill Gates fortune can help fight homelessness in USA.

Downgrading of Arafat takes life from kibbutz. . . :)



It's not a hate message about Arafat, it's a warning against new "leaders" rising among the people. All of them are like that, I think. I couldn't think of one that didn't get hook on $$$ and/or power. Best solution is to trust NO ONE and get to work on WATER WELL for the people...:cool:

Well, I just found this signature in the link below (very appropriate)...

"There will come a time when the Earth grows sick
and when it does a tribe will gather,
from all cultures of the world,
who believe in deeds and not words,
they will work to heal it.
They will be known as Warriors of the Rainbow."

The fact that we was given so much media attention (almost the whole time of BBC News) should tell you something, shouldn't it?;)

"Well I used to look up at Arafat as one man who was true to his ideals, to free his people and give them back their country (not that I don't question his means to do that...). Anyway, today I watch the news and it turns out that Arafat was the 8th or 9th wealthiest head of state in the world!!! WTF??? All that money sure makes me question his true motivations..."

http://www.psynews.o...showtopic=21411
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Posted 21 November 2004 - 02:20 PM

Prophecy

"Warriors of the Rainbow"

There was an old lady, from the "Cree" tribe, named "Eyes of Fire", who prophesied that one day, because of the white mans' or Yo-ne-gis' greed, there would come a time, when the fish would die in the streams, the birds would fall from the air, the waters would be blackened, and the trees would no longer be, mankind as we would know it would all but cease to exist.

There would come a time when the "keepers of the legend, stories, culture rituals, and myths, and all the Ancient Tribal Customs" would be needed to restore us to health. They would be mankinds- key to survival, they were the "Warriors of the Rainbow". There would come a day of awakening when all the peoples of all the tribes would form a New World of Justice, Peace, Freedom and recognition of the Great Spirit.

The "Warriors of the Rainbow" would spread these messages and teach all peoples of the Earth or "Elohi". They would teach them how to live the "Way of the Great Spirit". They would tell them of how the world today has turned away from the Great Spirit and that is why our Earth is "Sick".

The "Warriors of the Rainbow" would show the peoples that this "Ancient Being" (the Great Spirit), is full of love and understanding, and teach them how to make the "Earth or Elohi" beautiful again. These Warriors would give the people principles or rules to follow to make their path right with the world. These principles would be those of the Ancient Tribes. The Warriors of the Rainbow would teach the people of the ancient practices of Unity, Love and Understanding. They would teach of Harmony among people in all four comers of the Earth.

Like the Ancient Tribes, they would teach the peoples how to pray to the Great Spirit with love that flows like the beautiful mountain stream, and flows along the path to the ocean of life. Once again, they would be able to feel joy in solitude and in councils. They would be free of petty jealousies and love all mankind as their brothers, regardless of color, race or religion. They would feel happiness enter their hearts, and become as one with the entire human race. Their hearts would be pure and radiate warmth, understanding and respect for all mankind, Nature, and the Great Spirit. They would once again fill their minds, hearts, souls, and deeds with the purest of thoughts. They would seek the beauty of the Master of Life - the Great Spirit! They would find strength and beauty in prayer and the solitudes of life.

Their children would once again be able to run free and enjoy the treasures of Nature and Mother Earth. Free from the fears of toxins and destruction, wrought by the Yo-ne-gi and his practices of greed. The rivers would again run clear, the forests be abundant and beautiful, the animals and birds would be replenished. The powers of the plants and animals would again be respected and conservation of all that is beautiful would become a way of life.

The poor, sick and needy would be cared for by their brothers and sisters of the Earth. These practices would again become a part of their daily lives.

The leaders of the people would be chosen in the old way - not by their political party, or who could speak the loudest, boast the most, or by name calling or mud slinging, but by those whose actions spoke the loudest. Those who demonstrated their love, wisdom, and courage and those who showed that they could and did work for the good of all, would be chosen as the leaders or Chiefs. They would be chosen by their "quality" and not the amount of money they had obtained. Like the thoughtful and devoted "Ancient Chiefs", they would understand the people with love, and see that their young were educated with the love and wisdom of their surroundings. They would show them that miracles can be accomplished to heal this world of its ills, and restore it to health and beauty.

The tasks of these "Warriors of the Rainbow" are many and great. There will be terrifying mountains of ignorance to conquer and they shall find prejudice and hatred. They must be dedicated, unwavering in their strength, and strong of heart. They will find willing hearts and minds that will follow them on this road of returning "Mother Earth" to beauty and plenty - once more.

The day will come, it is not far away. The day that we shall see how we owe our very existence to the people of all tribes that have maintained their culture and heritage. Those that have kept the rituals, stories, legends, and myths alive. It will be with this knowledge, the knowledge that they have preserved, that we shall once again return to "harmony" with Nature, Mother Earth, and mankind. It will be with this knowledge that we shall find our "Key to our Survival".

This is the story of the "Warriors of the Rainbow" and this is my reason for protecting the culture, heritage, and knowledge of my ancestors. I know that the day "Eyes of Fire" spoke of - will come! I want my children and grandchildren to be prepared to accept this task.The task of being one of the........"Warriors of the Rainbow".
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Posted 21 November 2004 - 09:22 PM

US candidate on Ukraine's Yushchenko Leads in Vote for presidency.
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Posted 21 November 2004 - 11:58 PM

Arafat is the same as the top ones running Iraq.

He was the ideal to oppose Israel which is based on terror and threats to keep the Jewish Gheto alive and the billions pouring in
from the US.
Hamas was created with support from Iarael to ensure he and the
PA didnt get too big and break the rules of the game.

Rainbow warriors:

All this is operating through the world summits, the Greens, Environmentalists, protecting Mother Gaia (earth), ancient religion revived through New Age/Eastern Asian religious beliefs.
All on behalf of the global elite who are going to continue to reduce the population of the earth and make private property extinct, create non-human zones and restoire worshiping the creature.
Its all there on the Konformist.com site and its links. Its merely
the re-converging of ancient occultic Babylon from around the world where its parts were scattered to as recorded in the book of Moses and in the main ancient civilisations.
The lions dont come any bigger than this one.
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Posted 22 November 2004 - 01:15 AM

Originally posted by donquijote

.we shall once again return to "harmony" with Nature, Mother Earth, and mankind. It will be with this knowledge that we shall find our "Key to our Survival".



Interview with Bolek Pietrzyk on PTV. He works in UN Geneva CERN. CERN is international scientific organization for the purpose of research into high-energy particle physics.
The organization operates only for research of a
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Posted 22 November 2004 - 02:24 AM

Originally posted by Bader
Rainbow warriors:

All this is operating through the world summits, the Greens, Environmentalists, protecting Mother Gaia (earth), ancient religion revived through New Age/Eastern Asian religious beliefs.
All on behalf of the global elite who are going to continue to reduce the population of the earth and make private property extinct, create non-human zones and restoire worshiping the creature.
Its all there on the Konformist.com site and its links. Its merely
the re-converging of ancient occultic Babylon from around the world where its parts were scattered to as recorded in the book of Moses and in the main ancient civilisations.
The lions dont come any bigger than this one.



Rainbow Warriors were free spirits, nothing to do with the lion. They had to be crushed by--just like the resistance has to be crushed in Iraq--because it doesn't have a single leader they can manipulate. Little lion is necessary to big lion, just as Arafat was necessary.
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Posted 22 November 2004 - 05:36 AM

"Very characteristic of the Slavs people- seration from the crowd."

How come there was no revolt against communism, all the more so since Poles were almost 100% catholic and Pius x11 supported the Third Reich to combat communism?
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Posted 22 November 2004 - 12:59 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
US candidate on Ukraine's Yushchenko Leads in Vote for presidency.



Wiktor Janukowycz won elections. Slavs alive.
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Posted 22 November 2004 - 01:30 PM

Originally posted by Bader
Very characteristic of the Slavs people- seperation from the crowd."

How come there was no revolt against communism, all the more so since Poles were almost 100% catholic and Pius x11 supported the Third Reich to combat communism?



Political parties and leaders don
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Posted 22 November 2004 - 01:41 PM

Originally posted by Bader
Arafat is the same as the top ones running Iraq.

He was the ideal to oppose Israel which is based on terror and threats to keep the Jewish Gheto alive and the billions pouring in
from the US.



Maybe is maybe not;
The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) political bureau head Farouq Qadoumi said the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat died of poisoning . Qadoumi, affirmed that the Palestinian leadership was a collective one and no one would monopolize it and "we will not allow this."
Qadoumi said his visit was aimed at enhancing coordination and cooperation with Syria and Lebanon. http://www.xinhuanet...glish/index.htm
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Posted 22 November 2004 - 06:11 PM

That leaves the question morte outstanding- why the Poles
surrendered to it.
Traditions become institutions.
I suspect it was geo-political against the Swedes and Russians.

The PLO would want the best memory of Arafat. It would be a disaster if it was true about the accusations and having gone to a top aids fighting hospital in France.
Palestine is a classic case of dialectic materialism. The decent rank and file of the two peoples will never see a decent way of life because the system only allows extremists to approach power.
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Posted 23 November 2004 - 12:47 AM

Originally posted by Bader
That leaves the question morte outstanding- why the Poles
surrendered to it.
Traditions become institutions.
I suspect it was geo-political against the Swedes and Russians.

The PLO would want the best memory of Arafat. It would be a disaster if it was true about the accusations and having gone to a top aids fighting hospital in France.
Palestine is a classic case of dialectic materialism. The decent rank and file of the two peoples will never see a decent way of life because the system only allows extremists to approach power.



The other day I read there are children in Israel going to bed without eating...1 in 5!!!:confused:

Needless to speak about Palestine...
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Posted 23 November 2004 - 07:23 AM

Is it ever other than citizen punishing when extremists rule?

There are those on both side who work together in opposition to the situation, being well aware that they are suffering needlessly on both sides.

Insanity Fair.

Food without peace is the Jungle

Peace without food is a cemetery

Without peace and food is a warzone.

They need more kibbutz eh? Peace with food and the only war is against aging.
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Posted 23 November 2004 - 07:30 AM

Howdy Woj:

I see the US lost the election in the Ukraine and are now trying to mount a citizen coup.
They should join the commonwealth CIR (?) if not a member already.
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Posted 23 November 2004 - 09:27 AM

Originally posted by Bader
That leaves the question morte outstanding- why the Poles
surrendered to it.
Traditions become institutions.
I suspect it was geo-political against the Swedes and Russians.



It is not correct. I have to start with King Sigmund the Elder (1506-1548 Grand Duke of Lithuania ).
He married Italian Bona Sforza from Italy. . He managed to prepare union with Lithuania
Their son Sigmund August was the last king of Jagiellonian dynasty .
Sigmund August under pressure of his Italian mother married consequently two Hapsburgs Austrian princeses, who were very sick on seizure, and died.
Next August discreetly married Lithuanian widow Barbara Radziwil, and his Italian mother poisoned her looking for August the Catholic connections.
Unfortunately elimination of Barbara Radziwil cooled Polish Lithuanian Union. Lithuanians stopped thinking about Polish throne. From historic prospective, the death of Barbara was one the most tragic moment in Polish history because from that point Lithuania was not interested in Polish- Lithuanian union, thought this union still existed.
When August became king his mother was removed from political power. She returned to Italy where her own servant robbed her and killed.
Unfortunately August didn
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Posted 23 November 2004 - 09:57 AM

Originally posted by Bader
Howdy Woj:

I see the US lost the election in the Ukraine and are now trying to mount a citizen coup.
They should join the commonwealth CIR (?) if not a member already.



In Belgrade Soroz &Co had better weather condition to generate war. But unfortunately they still push Viktor Yushchenko to storm government buildings today.
Would be very upsetting if hooligans manage to start war.
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Posted 23 November 2004 - 05:38 PM

Howdy Woj:

I wasnt wrong except the choice wasnt made by the Polish people
but by the Jesuits I would say who would have been the agents that wormed their way into the center of power and captured Poland and sepearted her from the Swedes and Russian influence.
The same games are going on - Jugoslavia, Geogia and the Ukraine etc. for a revival of the Roman Empire - the Old and New Europe.
I guess one of the disappointments of the communist 'experiment'
was that it didnt destroy the Russian and Eastern Orthodox Churchs. It would have been so much easier for Rome right now.
I suspect that when the story of the Jewish element in the Catholic history is told quite a few queries will be cleared up.
Soros would make a great Saint George, riding around slaying democratic forces (dragons).
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