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#4441 lolomarsei

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Posted 25 November 2004 - 02:45 PM

no no!
one post soviet mess is enough!
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Posted 25 November 2004 - 03:00 PM

Originally posted by lolomarsei
Try more and more to link up with the USA in regards to economic revatalization. Europe is not the answer, North America is.



Advice for advice;
How to make stronger the US dollar; American should subject their daughters to genital mutilation, activist says

Every American family should secretly carrying out the ritual on daughters .
I recommend the ancient ritual, which involves the removal of the clitoris, often with a dull blade and no anesthesia.
"Female circumcision, would stop most sexual plaque as the spread of AIDS and improve IQ test trimmed" young women and their offspring, by giving them a fathers.
Trimmed" American young women would easy find a husbands ,".
Best would be performed with no painkiller, no anesthesia, no nothing."
Money spent on fight with spread of AIDS would be used on education, homelessness and environmental issues. In result the wide spread of implementation of genital mutilation would make dollar stronger. .
inspired by; http://story.news.ya...tal_mutilation:)
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Posted 25 November 2004 - 03:19 PM

liar!
i never posted that!
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Posted 25 November 2004 - 05:13 PM

Originally posted by lolomarsei
no no!
one post soviet mess is enough!



I know, I know your concerns, but American communism must change too.

It needs not be a mess like Russia, but both America and Russia can be saved by something like this, which is the original proposal here...

A ROAD TO FREEDOM (UNLIKE RUSSIA'S)

Why not build a new system? That offers PROSPERITY, SOCIAL JUSTICE and FREEDOM; that discards the defects of both Communism and Capitalism; and that places the system at the service of the human being, and not the other way around. Why not HUMANISM?

Naturally, education and health care should be the maximum priorities; they should be free -or affordable, in the case of higher education- and accessible to all. Education should emphasize the learning of English -or Esperanto, if we all ever agree on it- and literacy... in computers. Likewise, culture and sports should receive special attention (for example, adopting the affordable child-care centers; in general, we would have much to learn from the Scandinavian model). A MIXED MODEL, that includes competition and cooperation, would create a healthy competition, and it would allow to satisfy the material and human needs of all. (In this way, the cooperative enterprises would be forced to become more efficient, while capitalist enterprises would be forced to become more humane; we would have much to learn from the Israeli kibbutz [non-profit cooperatives]; and from the industrial cooperatives of Mondragon, in the Basque Country [a "workers capitalism"].)...

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Posted 25 November 2004 - 05:16 PM

Originally posted by lolomarsei
liar!
i never posted that!



Lolomarsei, you live somewhere in northern Europe, right?
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Posted 25 November 2004 - 05:18 PM

false
sorry
it's written where i live:
" 1000 km north of algiers"
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Posted 25 November 2004 - 05:19 PM

don quijote, you're a true leftist in old 70's way!
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Posted 25 November 2004 - 05:35 PM

Originally posted by lolomarsei
false
sorry
it's written where i live:
" 1000 km north of algiers"



I thought it was miles. Anyway it couldn't be northern Europe.;)
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Posted 25 November 2004 - 05:39 PM

Originally posted by lolomarsei
don quijote, you're a true leftist in old 70's way!



Not at all. To begin with I speak of OPTIONS, something both the Marxist Left and the Conservative Right hate. Also I oppose the LION, and the statist lion is found in both.

But the 80's conservatism lead by Reagan--and continued by Bush and Clinton--got us in this mess, so what do you propose?:confused:
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Posted 25 November 2004 - 09:55 PM

> This isn't some little park lake like I imagined you were describing.
> Although I'm not familiar with your put-in point, any boat launch ramp
> should be as available to kayaks as any other craft. If you are launching
> from a non-ramp site, walk the three blocks or drive to a public ramp and be
> done with it. You are so lucky to have this wonderful place to paddle.

The only park with a canoe ramp is two miles away, but takes a car and then be limited by the closing hours. Limitations, limitations, limitations...

And the next best choice is kind of dangerous and difficult. Surrounding areas are all monopolized by the lions. What's left?
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> In Colorado, we have a great deal of compassion for the homeless who have
> hard and shortened lives. Typically, the homeless are struggling with
> mental illness and are difficult to help although many try.

You must have been raised into accepting the homeless as normal but I have not. I'd like to remind you they are the symptom of a jungle. A few that have it all (private marines and all), others that are left behind and discarded like animals (the homeless), and a majority who got no place in between. It's a jungle out there...
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> Of course, kayaking and the homeless have nothing to do with each other
> except to distract the officials from your issue with them. Gratitude is
> the antidote for resentment and the map seems to point to a lot to be
> grateful for.

The things I have to be grateful were created by NATURE, but are quickly disappearing thanks to the relentless attack by motorboats and the careless dumping, so a few can have fun.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving.

Likewise. Thanks Mother Nature! ;)
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Posted 25 November 2004 - 11:57 PM

Grabbing the power is basing standard for the getting power in the West , so attack on Ukraine is nothing particular. Example Antipope Sylvester (IV)
original name Maginulfo antipope from 1105 to 1111.
While the Investiture Controversy raged between the German king Henry V (later Holy Roman emperor) and Pope Paschal II, the imperialist faction, , margrave of Ancona, elected Maginulfo as successor to the imperialist antipope Albert (Aleric) on Nov. 18, 1105, taking the name Sylvester, http://www.britannic...ry=Antipope&ct=
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 12:21 AM

Clement (III)
antipope from 1080 to 1100.
Of noble birth, he served at the German court (c. 1054
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 01:27 AM

Western democracy tradition proudly today shows us today its supremacy in Ukraine ; Setting the Pope and antipope West today replace with duality ; Yanukovych - Yushchenko

Alexander IV was appointed cardinal bishop of Ostia (1231) by his uncle Pope Gregory IX. After becoming pope, Alexander continued war on , Emperor Frederick II's bastard son (who was crowned king of Sicily in 1258), by excommunicating him.

Alexander II
pope from 1061 to 1073.
he worked for the abolition of simony and the enforcement of clerical celibacy. Though he was elected pope, the German court nominated Peter Cadalus of Parma as Honorius II,
Honorius (II) antipope from 1061 to 1072.
he opposed the church reform movement of (later Pope Gregory VII). He had swayed the election of Alexander II as pope (Sept. 30, 1061), without the sanction of the Holy Roman emperor.

Benedict V
pope, or antipope, from May 22, 964, to July 4, 966. His election by the Romans on the death of Pope John XII infuriated the Holy Roman emperor Otto I, who had already deposed John and designated Leo VIII as successor. Otto forced his way into Rome and convened a synod that deposed and degraded Benedict, reducing him to deacon. After reinstating Leo, Otto brought Benedict
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 05:05 AM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
Grabbing the power is basing standard for the getting power in the West , so attack on Ukraine is nothing particular. Example Antipope Sylvester (IV)
original name Maginulfo antipope from 1105 to 1111.
While the Investiture Controversy raged between the German king Henry V (later Holy Roman emperor) and Pope Paschal II, the imperialist faction, , margrave of Ancona, elected Maginulfo as successor to the imperialist antipope Albert (Aleric) on Nov. 18, 1105, taking the name Sylvester, http://www.britannic...y=Antipope&ct=-



It's the most gross and hypocritical interference I've witnessed in this millenium, particularly when you take into account the poor democractic record of the Banana Republicans and Democrats...;)

The LAPDOG MEDIA repeats the claim of the opposition--as if no opposition never claimed the same--without elaborating where's the proof.

DEMO-CRISY AT ITS BEST.:confused:
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 09:25 AM

great schism of occident 1307-1415 ( end in constanz council; there were 3)
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 09:30 AM

it doesn't belong to my culture, but libertarian thoughts are intersting, and genuinely american
some american leftist ( 1% in USA, 50 percent of us citizens abroad if you except DoD ones) are true belivers in old time way for europe

what's 1 000 km north of algiers? check, you know my city
btw, 1 852 km ( one thousand nautical miles), it' s north of burgundy, south of champagne, south east of paris...

i do not propose anything for USA, it's your country...


btw, schwarzie is a true european...
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 10:01 AM

Originally posted by lolomarsei
it doesn't belong to my culture, but libertarian thoughts are intersting, and genuinely american
some american leftist ( 1% in USA, 50 percent of us citizens abroad if you except DoD ones) are true belivers in old time way for europe

what's 1 000 km north of algiers? check, you know my city
btw, 1 852 km ( one thousand nautical miles), it' s north of burgundy, south of champagne, south east of paris...

i do not propose anything for USA, it's your country...


btw, schwarzie is a true european...



Wait a minute, we got Bush... You MUST wish us better.;)

No, I haven't said I propose libertarianism at all though I admit their participation, at least if they admit competition from us.

If you look at the folowing Political Compass, the "anti-lion" positions (anti-bureaucratic) would be at the bottom and conservatism and socialism at the top. Libertarians would be on the right-bottom quadrant and us on the left-bottom...

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

PS: 1000 km but worlds apart, isn't it?
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 10:06 AM

i'm true social democrat believer
our societies are different

btw, it's marseille(s)
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 10:13 AM

Originally posted by lolomarsei
i'm true social democrat believer
our societies are different

btw, it's marseille(s)



I'm a revolutionary, so I must be pretty unsatisfied with most things happening in the world, and yet I build on working models that could be learnt from. I hear France got the best medicine...
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 10:19 AM

no noi not all
the so-called french model is awfully weakened

i'm leftist, half marxist, but i always fighted the so called
" revolutionners"
in our fat western societies, it's a crookery to have a leninist scheme for power
in third world, it's different
who cares what's going in Nepal by now?
or Bolivia?

history is made by third world
not by us in our chairs!
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