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#4461 woj1@cyberonic.

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Posted 26 November 2004 - 11:46 AM

Coup rebellion against any results in Ukraine election was prepared last summer in Poland during funeral of Jacek Kuron.

Jacek Kuroń (1934-2004 created of KOR- the Workers Defense Committee. Juszczenko joined Kuron,s funeral in Poland but he must have never see Jacek Kuron alive .
Jacek Kuron stopped his political activity in seventies. Juzczenko was baybe boy then.
It is indicates that Juszczenko true purpose visit in Poland was different than funeral . Now we know what.
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 12:31 PM

oooh!
come on!
why saying such (censored by myself)
don't you think that THINKING should be better

a lot of good arguments for the russian point of view
but if you fall under plot theories....
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 01:56 PM

Bader; MattMarriott in *Who are the illuminati*? exposed in the CNN Kosovo Board, March 24, 1999, minutes .. http://engforum.prav...did=97481<br /> says;
The antichrist (total evil) :

The same people that control the banks, insurance companies, big factories, big real estate.
The same people that control all the mass media in the NATO countries.
The same people that control the major christian churches, including the Vatican, since John XXIII, except for a short month (1).
The same people that are organised as a secret society in a pyramid of secrecy grades. A secret society from which, after the first grades, there's no escape.
The same people that believe that their god (satan) created a few enlighened (they, the illuminati) and a mass of slaves, whose only purpose is to serve them until the day they decide they should be slaughtered.
The same people that saw the confirmation of the apocalyptic effects of the atomic bomb, in 1945, as the ultimate proof of their religion, the triumph of evil : the proof that evil was capable of destroying creation; in particular the proof that a few illuminati could destroy billions of sheeple in seconds.

The very same people that already before had seen the confirmation of their religion in the fact that they could use such simple means to control the sheeple so perfectly :
- total control of the mass media and schools;
- let the media, schools and major christian churches make people believe that there is no God (evolution theory, the most grotesque and sucessfull lie ever found);
- let the media, schools and "christian" leaders make people believe that "GOOD is BAD and BAD is GOOD". This tactic relies on two priorities : obscuring and inverting the line. Examples : it's not possible to trace a line between BAD and GOOD, everything is gray (2a); belief in God leads to a violent world (2b); creation can be improved (genetical engineering); human life is irrelevant (abortion); family is an obstacle to "individual freedom"; sense of life is to become God ("conquest of the universe" : moon landing hoax in 1969; "explanation of life" (new "discoveries" to "update" evolution theory) and "explanation of the universe" (Big Bang, UFO hoax, etc) (3).
- let the media and schools make people believe that they have the right of choice (2c).

The illuminati leaders realised and agreed in 1986, in one of their secret meetings, that the system could only survive at most another 20 years (end of non-renewable resources, demographics, ethnic distribution).
That day they decided that mankind should be reduced to a maximum of 2 million slaves the latest until 2005.
The main tactic goal would be to gain control of Russia's nuclear arsenal and complete the task before any other country gained mutual assured destruction capabilities
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 02:00 PM

sorry, but i wait evening for smoking
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 02:12 PM

I don
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 02:16 PM

Originally posted by lolomarsei
no noi not all
the so-called french model is awfully weakened

i'm leftist, half marxist, but i always fighted the so called
" revolutionners"
in our fat western societies, it's a crookery to have a leninist scheme for power
in third world, it's different
who cares what's going in Nepal by now?
or Bolivia?

history is made by third world
not by us in our chairs!



Don't worry, we got the Croissant Revolution for France (no, you ain't smoking)...;)

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Posted 26 November 2004 - 02:18 PM

> ... you all are going to have to excuse me but I am 55 years old and for as
> long as I can remember I have been told by numerous pundits that
> civilization especially western civilization is about to go bust and
> self-destruct. First it was by all-out nuclear war - I also can remember
> being told we would run out of crude oil by 2000 - then it was the coming
> ice age - and now we all are going to roast in our own juices with global
> warming and the runaway greenhouse effect. Sorry if I sound jaded & cynical
> but a ton of money has been and will be made predicting the end of the
> world.
>
> Personally I think if we snuff ourselves it will come from the small
> microbial end of things. Probably with good & benign intentions somebody
> will alter the genes of some lifeform and do irrepairable harm to most
> probably the food chain and then we all can kiss our modern civilization
> goodbye. Just my 2 cents worth.

The fact that we were saved by a hair (remember the Cuban Missile Crisis) doesn't mean that the wolf wasn't there. But now we have more wolves, predictable and unpredictable. The issue at hand is the predictable one. It's not a matter of "if" but of "when." We are unwilling and uncapable to change and the problem is passed on to future generations. The other issue is the unpredictable one. As more people and governments--not always with the best intentions--lay their hands on WMDs and more conflicts are provoked, something will happen sooner or later...

There's a dialog in 'The Matrix' in which one of the humanoids says we human beings are the only living beings, outside of a virus, to destroy its own home. Maybe we will meet our own medicine.;)
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 02:23 PM

i'm obviously with your post ( but the croissant,,,?)
but could you go in future?

and i'm sorry you seems a little west-minded

:-))
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 02:32 PM

Originally posted by lolomarsei
i'm obviously with your post ( but the croissant,,,?)
but could you go in future?

and i'm sorry you seems a little west-minded

:-))



OK, how exotic you want to go, Bob Marley's Revolution, Che Guevara's grandson letter of support or the indians of the Andes?;)

LETTER OF SUPPORT:

Dear Comrades: ***, Representative of the Indigenous People of Ecuador, send you the warmest greetings.
I would like to talk about the Guarapo Revolution. We too are convinced that we should educate our people not to drink Coca-Cola, but rather a national beverage made of corn or sugar cane. Ecuador is a country that possesses enough natural resources; yet the people live in utter misery.
This is due to our governments having given away our riches to foreign multinationals, which then return to us the same products with the USA label.
We demand a greater balance between the foreign products and our own. At least until we stabilize the economies of our countries and improve the education, health, feeding, housing, and the general welfare of our people.
JUSTICE FOR OUR PEOPLES!
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 02:37 PM

are you sure you believe there is one world?
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 02:41 PM

Yes, I see that is the division in Illuminati HQ, they even compete between themselves. Rats eat rats.
That is very positive observation.. F
reedom fighters should attack the weakest places in illuminati connection and never give up their freedom..

----U.S. dollar hit another record low against the euro on Friday, with the European currency climbing above $1.32 for the first time. The green-back fell to its lowest in nearly five years against the yen the same day.
Japanese Finance repeated his warning against dollar weakness, threatening to take action against sudden moves, but market participants said such verbal intervention had long lost its clout.

Referring to recent currency movements as "brutal", European Central Bank chief Jean-Claude Trichet, who is the most vocal European policymaker on dollar weakness, is due to make comments in Rio de Janeiro, along with ECB council member and Spanish central bank governor Jaime Caruana.
The euro initially dropped against the dollar but has risen some 60 percent since hitting an all-time low of 82 U.S. cents in October 2000. http://www.xinhuanet...glish/index.htm :)
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#4472 donquijote

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Posted 26 November 2004 - 02:46 PM

Originally posted by lolomarsei
are you sure you believe there is one world?



I'm positive, only divided by cultures (croissant, arepa, banana)...

LETTER OF SUPPORT OF GRANDSON OF CHE GUEVARA

Dear Anti-lion friends...
Anarchism unites us, it makes us understand what we confront and it gives us the freedom necessary to do it... A hug to all anti-capitalists (be it state capitalism or market capitalism, which is the same), and to all "guaraperos," "areperos," "jalapenos," and "bananeros"... because I'm one of yours and we are the same thing, the same essence and the same humanity, though sometimes denied...

Regards
Canek
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 02:53 PM

you're watching the world from your armchair

you do not want to confront your theories to human reality

come back from outer space, mr Spock!

where and how do you start revolution?
:-))
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 03:03 PM

``The affirmation of a strong American policy naturally leads to the necessity to reinforce Europe politically and economically,''Chirac :) :)
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 03:03 PM

Originally posted by lolomarsei
you're watching the world from your armchair

you do not want to confront your theories to human reality

come back from outer space, mr Spock!

where and how do you start revolution?
:-))



Right here, we aldeady are "free territory of lions" and have thousands of sympathizers, reached through a grass-roots campaign among the real Proles.

We are represented in Italy by Alberto, and have many more friends out there like Bader, with whom we share the same antipathy for the King of the Jungle...;)
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 03:06 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
``The affirmation of a strong American policy naturally leads to the necessity to reinforce Europe politically and economically,''Chirac :) :)



Yep, the guy is pretty good, I told you before.

"We can't accept any longer, given the changes in the world and the attitude of the people, the law of the jungle"
-French President Jacques Chirac
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 03:06 PM

mmmm
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 03:26 PM

Originally posted by lolomarsei
mmmm



More than an idea per se, what unites us is being "anti-lion," which makes us pretty anti-hierarchical, though having common sense that a small, tamed lion is necessary.

It may look pro-Western, but some of the models provided are right in the Third World, say Curitiba, Brazil, which is a model city for public transportation, green areas and the integration of the homeless to work. Its major was a Humanist. No socialist "give them the fish," but "teach them how to fish" self-reliance. Cooperatives available to all, and such a model is found near you in the Basque Country. Mondragon is a model of industrial coops.

NO PRETENSES OF 'EQUALITE,' BUT NO ONE LEFT BEHIND.;)
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 05:39 PM

1000ks north of Algiers, but it only functions at night time.
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Posted 26 November 2004 - 05:42 PM

i did not understood

well earth is not flat, do you agree?
sometimes, i feel like in cairo or casablanca aarguing with islamists ( they're tight like submarines)
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