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#4681 Bader

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 04:36 AM

Rumsfeld has no conscience. He is a coward as Bush is.
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Posted 22 January 2005 - 05:41 AM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
[B I am not blaming those who are resolved to rule, only those who show an even greater readiness to submit. ~Thucydides
:) [/B]



Wait a minute, Woj. That sounds very anti-lion to me...;)

Though you are blaming the sheep for their share of guilt.
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Posted 22 January 2005 - 08:05 PM

Originally posted by Bader
Rumsfeld has no conscience. He is a coward as Bush is.


Mystery ofd Tutankhamen death could be reason behind murder of British archeologist Howard Carter who discovered the Tutankhamen grave. But today is bigger
Mystery in Iraq as $300 Million is Taken Abroad
. 21 - Earlier this month, according to Iraqi officials, $300 million in American bills was taken out of Iraq's Central Bank, put into boxes and quietly put on a charter jet bound for Lebanon.
The money was to be used to buy tanks and other weapons from international arms dealers.. But exactly where the money went, and to whom, and for precisely what, remains a mysteryhttp://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/22/international/middleeast/22baghdad.html?ex=1107061200&en=a559e2ddba153588&ei=5018&partner=BRITANNICA.

Rumsfeld is brilliant in black humor in public statements and he should rather pursuit his career in this direction, instead of military which will bring him only shame and maybe, let us hope, an electric chair. :)
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Posted 22 January 2005 - 08:50 PM

Economic Forum again in Swiss in Davos in 26-30, and again police arrested demonstrations.
Support for Chilean-style controls on portfolio flows has been strong since the 1997-98 Asian financial crisis, which reinforced the commonly held belief that unlike foreign direct investment, which leads to new factories and jobs and stays for the long haul, foreign institutional investment is a fickle friend, which does nothing for the recipient nation.
Good Cholesterol' Can Kill Too
Here's how the erroneous notion works: Foreign direct investment, drawn by a country's strengths and bringing with it technology and managerial skills, is beneficial, just like some cholesterols are good for the body. On the other hand, short-term overseas debt, which results from speculative considerations like exchange-rate differentials, is akin to bad cholesterol.
An overseas investor starting a factory isn't superior to one who's simply lending money or buying shares in the local market.
Gas Leak
No action by any hedge fund has hurt India nearly as much as the 1984 gas leak from Union Carbide Corp.'s factory in central India. Union Carbide, one of the first American companies to invest in India, set up the Bhopal factory to ``help the country's agricultural sector increase its productivity and contribute more significantly to meeting the food needs of one of the world's most heavily populated regions.''
All India got from that investment was the dubious distinction of having hosted the world's worst-ever industrial disaster that killed between 16,000 and 30,000 people and injured 500,000 others.
And what about Enron Corp.'s $3 billion power plant near Mumbai, the biggest foreign direct investment in India? The 740- megawatt plant has been shut for more than three years, and Indian banks are scrambling to get back some of the $1.4 billion Enron and its partners borrowed to fund the project.
Sudden Stop? Strength, Not Weakness
``Ultimately, domestic strength, including a robust and prudent financial sector, will protect a country from the volatility induced by capital flows.
http://quote.bloombe...id=a1uDJa9Z2gZo
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Posted 22 January 2005 - 08:57 PM

Originally posted by donquijote
Wait a minute, Woj. That sounds very anti-lion to me...;)

Though you are blaming the sheep for their share of guilt.



Donq, you understand me correct .
The true reason behind celibate in Catholic church is attempt to solve this problem.
Luck of heir might provide the higher dedication for the good cause.
If we widener this idea for all sheep and lions on the world we might improve the world.
Only finally nobody would be around. But problem could be solved. :)
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Posted 23 January 2005 - 04:53 AM

Howdy Guys:

"Ultimately, domestic strength, including a robust and prudent financial sector, will protect a country from the volatility induced by capital flows."

About as wise as saying society would be so much safer if there was no crime.

Love to see someone define:
"domestic strength"
"robust and prudent financial sector"
and explain why there are capital flows, ie, everyone is supposed to want and encourage capital flows according to common journalistic talk.

The simple answer is to stop borrowing computer figures as
money from anyone else and use ones own national sovereignty
(responsibility) of creating ones own money at no cost/interest.
Every country wants people in other countries to invest in theirs
and every country has to try and sell more than they buy from others to balance the books. Both are an impossibility but journalists, politicians, economists and the gullible public never stop to think about it long enough for a penny to drop.
Puppetiers rule. Without a gullible audience paying the show could go on.
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Posted 23 January 2005 - 12:59 PM

To expect American journalist to know that Bohdan Khmelnitsky was Polish is too much.
Yushchenko pledged an oath of allegiance to Cossack brotherhood and Ukraine and was named "Hetman" or leader of the Cossacks.
He was presented with a golden mace, a symbol of a Hetman's dignity
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Posted 23 January 2005 - 01:44 PM

Originally posted by Bader
About as wise as saying society would be so much safer if there was no crime.

The simple answer is to stop borrowing computer figures as
money from anyone else and use ones own national sovereignty
(responsibility) of creating ones own money at no cost/interest.


To save the countries economies, the most important goal is to revoke double citizenship . As long it is not stopped the capital flows in one direction and in countries revisited, and debts can only grow. The biggest victims is Poland , where government is obviously not Polish even if Polish born. Ties between Israel and Warsaw are the clue of Polish debts .

Read this;
*Jews, Poles Grow Closer 60 Years After Holocaust

Michael Reiss was 10 when his parents, having survived the Holocaust, emigrated from Poland to Israel in 1957. He says that as a child he felt anti-Semitism "on his own skin" and yet, nearly half a century later, he has returned to a free Poland.
Reiss has regained his Polish citizenship and is awaiting his Polish passport, revoked by the communist government at the time of his family's flight from a country that was once home to 3 million Jews, the biggest Jewish community in the world.
"I feel good here, even though I don't feel I am Polish. I am from Israel," said Reiss, a businessman who has lived in Poland for much of the last four years.
More than 1,000 Israelis asked for Polish passports last year alone, one of many signs that strained Polish-Jewish relations are normalizing and wounds and traumas rooted in the horrors of World War II are starting to heal.
Poland's joining the European Union) last year is clearly one incentive but the key factor is that political ties between Israel and Warsaw, which were virtually non-existent under communism, have become cordial in recent years.
http://story.news.ya..._holocaust_dc_1

Ties between Israel and Warsaw are the clue of Polish debts .:confused:
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 12:35 AM

Capital flows are not about immigration although that may be of
some significance, but they are just small time movements.

The Slav Society in Israel have complained that they are treated as thirdgrade citizens in Israel, which will have some baring on
why several hundred thousand "jews" have left Israel and gone back to Eastern Europe.
DonQ gave us statistics on poverty in Israel so little wonder that they see a brighter future back in eastern Europe as they join the EU.

Regarding the population figures, three million Jews lived in Poland before the war. I have seen a copy of a page of the US Generals diary who ran Europe after the war and it records a million Polish Jews were given German homes, by eviction, after the war was over. The subject was something else and this detail just happened to be on the same page.
Just another detail that somehow asks big questions on holocaust claims.

When all money, or all but 100% is created by the banks out of nothing and has interest to be paid as well as the principle to be repaid, the amount equal to the interest owning hasnt been created and circulated, thus everyone cannot repay nor pay the interest, its mathematically impossible. Thus society has to continually borrow money into the pool, getting further and further into debt. In time the repayments get to become a significant part of the govt dept budgets, so the serves go down
while the figures go up through inflation caused by ther money
volumn having to continually expand.
Govts have gone for the free-market policy of capital flows so money can come into the country without the govt borrowing it,
thus they keep their budgets under better control, while the services slowly decline, but the foreign investment makes the profits out of the opportunities in the country, take them out of the country and those profits should be the means of facing the costs of the future in the country, instead they keep countries like the US, Japan etc up the top.
Making people stay-put or closing down immigration would have no effect on the problem which is very old anyway.
Govts like immigration because they are gaining skilled people
instead of paying for training their own, which makes it easier to cut back on govt spending/investing in the youth.
All these problems as caused by the debt money system.
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 01:08 AM

Today in 1997: Madeleine Albright sworn in as U.S. secretary of state.
As ambassador to the United Nations from 1993, she had gained a reputation as a fierce advocate for interests, and she promoted an increased role for the United States in UN operations. http://www.britannic...d=9396809#event
She is responsible for death of 5500 Serbian Slavs who saved her family life from Germans WWII.
Since her work in UN , UN lost completely its credibility as institution for peace.
She should be leading figure in French Marie Tussaud wax figures in London.
Her museum contains a variety of historical figures; Madeline Albright should have place in my opinion next to Hitler. :)
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 01:29 AM

Originally posted by Bader
Capital flows are not about immigration although that may be of
some significance, but they are just small time movements.

Making people stay-put or closing down immigration would have no effect on the problem which is very old anyway.
Govts like immigration because they are gaining skilled people
instead of paying for training their own, which makes it easier to cut back on govt spending/investing in the youth.
All these problems as caused by the debt money system.



My problem is not Israel emigrants who get Polish citizenship.

But I object any immigrants in Poland who have dual citizenship, especially with countries which as Israel refused to sign an extradition law with Poland.

Of cause I don
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 05:03 AM

Dual citizenship seems to be on the rise, but to be expected in a free-market world wher borders really are tax boundries and nothing much else.

Didnt soemone say that the new President of Ukraine is a US citzen and the new Prime Minister is Russian?
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Bader
Didnt soemone say that the new President of Ukraine is a US citzen and the new Prime Minister is Russian?



Lithuanian president Adamcus is also American citizen.
Adamcus first presidential act was the selling to Americans the Lithuanian national refinery.

Dual citizenship is created to manipulate the results of elections.

Therefore election in Iraq will be invalid because so called expatriates have right to vote.

Any country which let vote people behind their borders with excluding their military or diplomatic forces or international services are not really free only subdued .

No taxation without representation. It was reason for US civil war.

Today free people have to eliminate representation without taxation.
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Bader

The simple answer is to stop borrowing computer figures as
money from anyone else and use ones own national sovereignty
(responsibility) of creating ones own money at no cost/interest.
Every country wants people in other countries to invest in theirs
and every country has to try and sell more than they buy from others to balance the books.



Will China 's period of superiority be more valuable then US's for Slavs?
China starts to realize your idea.
China's postal savings system creates the country's fifth-largest bank in terms of savings, unlocking capital to help the farm sector.
And it is China success story.
China
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 03:07 PM

Bird Flu May be more efficient than demonstrations in work with globalization.
Hong Kong will think twice before would buy next UK chicken feed.
A lethal flu virus that has killed millions of birds in Asia may have spread from person-to-person for the first time in Thailand, heightening concerns that it may mutate into a form capable of starting a worldwide epidemic.

http://quote.bloombe...kmz4&refer=home

Problem or solution?:)
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 03:41 PM

Indonesia Deports American Journalist


JAKARTA, Indonesia - An American freelance journalist was deported from Indonesia on Monday after immigration officers said he entered the country illegally, despite granting him a visa when he arrived three weeks ago.

William Nessen, is from New York.

http://story.news.ya...porter_deported
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 06:34 PM

Peoples savings, peoples power, their rights, their future labour
etc are either under protection of their own control (people ruling= democracy) or it is merely tools of the State or corporations.

The Chinese govt doest believe in people ruling over the state, but the reverse and so they can become the largest economy in the world ina relatively short period of time because the social
credit will be syphoned off to state power and the standard of living will remain low.
If the savings of poor people are huge, how big is the plum the state has taken out over the last several decades.
It will just be an Asian Roman Empire, the corrupt elites running
politics and finance etc and that will do big business with their counter-parts in other major nations.
Anyway they are on a collision couse with the "US" so they have to spend bigtime on developing their military and prepare for a major war.
Military tsunami and natural (man made) tsunami will boost the dollar empire.
China has yet to face internal pressure from the people who will expect more as they impress the world and it will have to stay a tyrany regime to hold such a huge state together.

Kaizumi the japanese PM has called for the Japanese PO, the largest financial institution in the world in terms of assets, to be broken into four and it appears privatised. This will be because of the volumn of US debt the Japanese are carrying and they need to tap into the publics purse. Its the equivalent of Bush
pushing US social security onto the stock exchange so the corporations can have a feed like Enron.

Slavs should stop looking to someone/something outside themselves.
All growth anywhere is based on social credit and free energy from the sun and the resourses of nature. It is all a matter of the
philosophy behind how people are organised or ruled as to the outcome in terms of who benefits.
Either the citizens are all recognised as shareholders or they are not, thats the dividing line. And a shareholder gets money that empowers them. Neither capitalism or socialism can do that, because its against their philosophies.
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Posted 25 January 2005 - 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Bader
Capital flows are not about immigration although that may be of
some significance, but they are just small time movements.

Making people stay-put or closing down immigration would have no effect on the problem which is very old anyway.
Govts like immigration because they are gaining skilled people
instead of paying for training their own, which makes it easier to cut back on govt spending/investing in the youth.




!000 graduated Polish people cleaning European Union nursery homes and vises for foreigners are making different for that the Polish people.
Polish government improves its life for sure . It accepts bribes coming through a foundations.

In contrary Chine government is not democratically elected so country is not corruptive .

Only in democracy one has to pay to get elected.
Not necessary by his own money but in future for example with signature on government and state orders.
Chine success is base on that , government is not bonded by chain of connections of corruption services demanding by democracy system.
Rejection of democracy is one of answer for solution.

US can elect the governments of Ukraine, Romania, Uk, Italy etc. and many other democratic governments but has to stay out of Chine.
China has no hole to penetrate in.
Infiltration through religious agents also is eliminated.
Chine government is model to follow.
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Posted 25 January 2005 - 02:32 PM

Fallen U.S. Porn King Goldstein Rebuilds with Bagels
He spent a lifetime peddling smut and once had an $11 million fortune, but after losing everything and becoming just another homeless New Yorker, Al Goldstein is now happy pushing bagels instead of porn.
Goldstein, a founding father of America's porn industry, now hustles bagels and white fish at a New York-based deli and catering establishment.
"I've always loved food more than sex, so this is really my first love," said Goldstein, 69, now a cold-calling salesman for New York City Bagels. "I've gone from broads to bagels."

http://www.reuters.c...storyID=7413198
The former owner of Milky Way Productions, home of Screw magazine and the now defunct X-rated cult show "Midnight Blue," went bankrupt over a year ago after amassing an $11 million fortune. Screw once sold over 140,000 copies weekly and was a cash cow thanks to ads for call girls and prostitutes before it fell victim to Internet porn and sagging circulation.
"The Internet made pornography available for free and I couldn't compete," said Goldstein
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Posted 25 January 2005 - 03:12 PM

No possibility of opening talks with Washington during US President George W. Bush's second term as there would be no major change in US policy toward Tehran, the official IRNA news agency reported.
"Given that the US government has started its new term with threats, it is clear that no major change has occurred in the Americans' policy
"We will use the same language if anyone chooses to use a language of force and threats against us. But if they opt to engagein dialogue without any precondition on an equal footing, we will consider that
Bush said on Jan. 17 that he would not rule out military actions against Iran. Secretary of State-designate Condoleezza Rice, one day later, urged the world to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons and threatened to refer Tehran's nuclear case to the UN Security Council.
At the inauguration ceremony of Bush's second term on Thursday,Vice President Dick Cheney ranked Iran at top of a list of global trouble spots.
Ramezanzadeh played down the comments, saying "it is now 26 years that we have got used to the US threats."
"Neither is the US in a position to have the capacity to attackus, nor are we in a position in which anyone would dare to attack us," he added. http://news.xinhuane...ent_2503834.htm

Has Iran the Chine, Russia and Germany on her side?
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