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#4701 woj1@cyberonic.

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Posted 25 January 2005 - 04:27 PM

Originally posted by Bader
Slavs should stop looking to someone/something outside themselves.



Slavs needn
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Posted 26 January 2005 - 12:07 AM

Another place where there is no corruption is the grave.
If there was no corruption in the USSR then there will be none in China.
Your argument Woj that a dictatorship is better than a free ( to be corrupt) society is the same as the Bush admin destroying freedoms an the Constitution in the cause of the war on terrorism. AS the avergae person what has been achieved in regards Terrorists, they wouldnt be able to reply, meanwhile they are compounding the anti-US sentiment in Islamic countries.

The first benefit of missles in Syria would be to counter the blackmail by Israel and the US.

BUsh is doing a re-run of the build up of rheteric against Iran as he did against Iraq, to justify taking the extreme measure down stream. A Russian said they (Iran) have nuclear weapons a couple of years ago. They would have got them from Pakistan
and the missle from Nth Korea.
The US is mainly trying to trangle their economy directly and indirectly to destablise her politically and in the longer term weaken her militarily.
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Posted 26 January 2005 - 11:44 AM

Facing opposition from Afghan President Hamid Karzai, the United States has set aside plans to use spray planes to fumigate opium crops in Afghanistan), the world's largest drug producing country.

http://story.news.ya...hanistan_opium.
And now who says that Us don
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Posted 26 January 2005 - 01:44 PM

Iraq Helicopter Crash Kills as Many as 30 Marines, CBS Says http://quote.bloombe...3uhM&refer=home
Mandatory military service would be the best war prevention.
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Posted 26 January 2005 - 03:05 PM

Originally posted by Bader
Another place where there is no corruption is the grave.
If there was no corruption in the USSR then there will be none in China.
Your argument Woj that a dictatorship is better than a free ( to be corrupt) society is the same as the Bush admin destroying freedoms an the Constitution in the cause of the war on terrorism.



Another place where there is no corruption is the grave.
If there was no corruption in the USSR then there will be none in China.
Your argument Woj that a dictatorship is better than a free ( to be corrupt) society is the same as the Bush admin destroying freedoms an the Constitution in the cause of the war on terrorism.
Fly of the bumblebee with one front too many ;
One can argue that both Lenin and Bush set by corporation money . But hardly corruption claims you can do to Stalin or Polish Felix Dzierzynski. .

Bush and Stalin both considered themselves as God gift for humanity, but as Stalin legacy one may discuss , when the Clinton/Bush legacy case is simple clear.

http://engforum.prav...threadid=114951 says ; In Asia, the rise of autocratic capitalism in China or Singapore is as much a "model" for development as America's scandal-ridden corporate culture. "First we emulate," one Chinese businessman recently told the board of one U.S. multinational, "then we overtake."
But there it is not true similarity.
"President Bush has further isolated America from the world, when China is only threat to Taiwan. . .

Chine;

Population below poverty line:
10% (
Life expectancy at birth:
total population: 71.96 years


USA
Life expectancy at birth:
total population: 77.43 years

Population below poverty line:
12% (2004 est.)

With less natural resources Chine government is not able to create haven for Chine 1,298,847,624 citizens , but create meaningful and dignified life.
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Posted 26 January 2005 - 03:45 PM

Where will the U.S. stand in the global economy 10 years from now?
The U.S. will have a bigger role.
327 votes (17%)
The U.S. will have a smaller role.
1036 votes (55%)
The U.S. role will be the same.
532 votes (28%)

http://discussions.w...b/message.asp?w

China surpassed the US to become Japan
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Posted 27 January 2005 - 05:40 AM

Howdy Woj:

Corruption goes wider than bribery. The philosophy of communism can be corrupted by the buse of power.

Try asking (hypertheticaly) the millions encaserated in the Gulag
Achipeligo if financial corruption is all that a state should be judged on.

If the US sprays opium fields in Afghan. it will be fertiser.

The poll on the future of China and the US is on the basis of all things being equal. Those who are using Bush dont believe in all things being equal.
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Posted 27 January 2005 - 09:00 AM

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Posted 27 January 2005 - 11:42 AM

Originally posted by Bader
Try asking (hypertheticaly) the millions encaserated in the Gulag
Achipeligo if financial corruption is all that a state should be judged on.

If the US sprays opium fields in Afghan. it will be fertiser.



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Posted 27 January 2005 - 11:59 AM

"Our model is not ideological or utopian but is based on the life of our Prophet Mohammad," reads a statement on the group's Mexican web site, http://www.islammexico.org.mx.

Islam Gains Toehold in Mexico's Zapatista Country, Tzotzil Indians in Chiapas state, home of Zapatista rebels.
In an unlikely meeting of two worlds, an idealistic Muslim sect has converted some 300 Tzotzils, a Maya Indian group .

"It was difficult to learn the prayers in Arabic at first but now I have them in my heart," said Muhammad Emin Lopez, 46, a Tzotzil fruit merchant who boasts that his conversion to Islam in 1995 was the state's first.
http://story.news.ya...ico_muslims_dcI

Can be better reward for Vatican for its recognition of Croatia and Vatican role in destroying Yugoslavia? :)
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Posted 27 January 2005 - 01:04 PM

Originally posted by Bader

The poll on the future of China and the US is on the basis of all things being equal. Those who are using Bush dont believe in all things being equal.



Search for Superiority nor Equality is motor for humanity.

From memory of GRU in the past;

It is untrue that we kill our defectors to the West.
They return back.
Defectors to the WestT, after first moments of enthusiasm are unhappy there.
They live in nice houses; but all around live in nice houses.
They set at their swimming pools , and everybody around is sitting at his swimming pool.
And they defectors are anybody there as everybody else.

In Russia , our peoples had power, authority, influence . ...


Power, authority, influence are all humans objectives , but they can not eliminate the human principles in their means ..
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Posted 27 January 2005 - 02:18 PM

"The U.S. dollar is no longer
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Posted 28 January 2005 - 06:15 AM

Howdy Woj:

Democracy was the last to fall to corruptions.
Where the public have the ability to cause accountablity corruption has the hardest job to be above the law.
That is why democracy is being unwound so corruptiuon can really develop like in the banana republics.
Outside of democracy the elite are already above the law and not accountable, and they can control (butcher) competition.
Bush like you thinks nothing of other people dying in their thousands. I have said it before - put your own body where your mouth is. Why do you complain about Madalene Albright and her kind when you are just as indifferent to collateral damage for the benefit of the power of the state?
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Posted 28 January 2005 - 02:18 PM

Originally posted by Bader
Democracy was the last to fall to corruptions.
Where the public have the ability to cause accountablity corruption has the hardest job to be above the law.
That is why democracy is being unwound so corruptiuon can really develop like in the banana republics.
Outside of democracy the elite are already above the law and not accountable, and they can control (butcher) competition.
Bush like you thinks nothing of other people dying in their thousands. I have said it before - put your own body where your mouth is. Why do you complain about Madalene Albright and her kind when you are just as indifferent to collateral damage for the benefit of the power of the state?




In the true democracy Bush also would be elected , as Hitler or Saddam . Stalin could be as well if he care for an democratic image.
I only say that in democracy more money is siphoning through democratic foundation , special interest group .
When for example sb11 informs about ; Appeals Court Reinstates McDonald's obesity lawsuit, but says nothing about for example t Dunking Donate Jewish American company which in contrary to Mc Donald is not offering nothing beside sugar and fat donates and coffee with sugar and fat cream.

So democratic foundations are useful for the corporations fight for profit under cover of health concern.

Why to build wealth of health insurances owners instead to provide just simply the health service nation wide as Saddam did, and the communists countries?

You says it is no true democracy on the west and I say it was never true communism on the east , but in my opinion dictatorship is more sufficient in fight with siphoning money from society than democratic system, because its accountability is the simple structure.
I understand that meaning of your question is not *Why do you complain about Madalene Albright and her kind when you are just as indifferent to collateral damage for the benefit of the power of the state? * you mean * collateral damage for the benefit of the power of the communism state ,because my complain about Madalene Albright are also complain about collateral damage for the benefit of the power of the state onlythe democratic state.

BBC reported that in Auschwitz Dick Cheney, Aleksander Kwasniewski of Poland, Vladimir Putin, and Jacques Chirac put candles on the grave, but BBC didn
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Posted 28 January 2005 - 05:56 PM

Uzbek Leader Warns, he will stop ukraine-style revolt and
looking directly to Western ambassadors who were listening to Kataimow speech in parliament, added: "I don't want to delve too deeply into this matter. But those sitting up there in the balcony ought to understand that better." Maybe, we will manage to get away without yellow flowers in Kyrgyzstan.
http://story.news.ya...stan_karimov_dc

West has difficult way for Uranium in Uzbekistan
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Posted 28 January 2005 - 06:03 PM

Small US helicopter crashed in Iraq. http://info.onet.pl/...48,12,item.html
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Posted 29 January 2005 - 04:22 AM

"Democratic Foundation"

Sounds like a Soros Horse of Troy.

Money, big business and big politics whether 'democrcay' or communism are just games of big opportunity and they do 'business' with each other. Degree of corruption is incidental,
expedient and acceptable if undetected.
Whats the difference between Bush and Hammer. Soviet leaders give big gifts to big business men in the West.
Armand Hammer's father was the leader of the US communist party, he made money through oil, mainly over valuing companies,
and he had a joint ranch with Al Gores father.
They all live above the real world we understand thats why Bush can create fanatasies to build wars on and get away with it. The media owners and the 'opposition' all opperate on the money of the same strata. And you only see corruption on one side.
The old saying "power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely"is a truism.

Croatia is a catholic country so why shouldnt the Pope recognise it. Why shouldnt he not recognise the Serbs and want to support
them given they are Eastern Orthodox and not pro-Rome.

Why should two Slav leaders travel together in the same vehicle,
a gift to their enemy. Two with one shot.
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Posted 29 January 2005 - 01:01 PM

Originally posted by Bader
Democratic Foundation"
Sounds like a Soros Horse of Troy.

Degree of corruption is incidental,
expedient and acceptable if undetected.
Soviet leaders give big gifts to big business men in the West.
And you only see corruption on one side.
The old saying "power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely"is a truism.Why should two Slav leaders travel together in the same vehicle,
a gift to their enemy. Two with one shot.


I think that you have to know more facts.about communism.

When one could not have meaningful ownership in communism, one wouldn
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Posted 30 January 2005 - 08:27 AM

Example is Poland, where Onet.pl sets a pol.

Question ;
Should the free world to militarily intervene in countries which have concentration camps?
Of course the good people oppose the countries which have concentration camps.
They told that North Korea has concentration camps. .
But nothing about of Guantanamo, because it is on Cuba.
Isn
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Posted 30 January 2005 - 09:47 AM

I doubt the reason for the torture of muslims has too much to do with information on "alQaeda".
It has been going on so long any information would be so out of date.
I think it is mainly about experimenting. Most of them would have been taken there for guinea pigs.

Another one is goingto be built by the Pentagon for US citizens.
They will want to experiment with certain Christians next and likely Torah Jews as well.

First concentration camps: When was the first Jewish Gheto
created?
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