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#4721 Bader

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Posted 30 January 2005 - 10:00 AM

checkout:

www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2005-01-21/cols_ventura.html


ITs not number one except regards military etc....
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Posted 30 January 2005 - 10:05 AM

Kerry was very eloquent on Bush financial problem, but his Massachusetts state is only one state where number of people is decreasing.
Massachusetts stopped from growing in contrary to number of the state officials with job security and pension free of tax .

Kerry state is to facilitate state government, but it looks that majority of Americans don
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Posted 30 January 2005 - 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Bader
I doubt the reason for the torture of muslims has too much to do with information on "alQaeda".
I think it is mainly about experimenting. Most of them would have been taken there for guinea pigs.

Another one is goingto be built by the Pentagon for US citizens.
First concentration camps: When was the first Jewish Gheto
created?



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Posted 30 January 2005 - 06:21 PM

After writing off democracy you now advocate democracy although you think democracy needs a dictator to clean up the mess.
Reminds me of a western movie. Bad cowboys had mad life hell and dangerous in town, so they hired a gunfighter to clean it up.
He did that and then every would-be gunfighter came to town to build a reputation and so the guy who cleaned up the town was a drawcard for more mayhem, so they had to then get rid of the hero (henry fonda).

IT has been claimed Bush fixed the Ohio vote count and won in that state, Kerry should have won. Even attempt at a recount have been interferred with. But I note that Kerry doesnt seemed to have made the news protesting or doing anything about it.
Maybe they know not to bite the masters hand.

The US isnt a democracy, its a banana replublic. When the Jewish press tells Americans its not a democracy they will believe it. Until then its a democrcay even when they start getting taken away without charge or court case.

Warsaw was the first J gheto but I dont have the date.
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Posted 30 January 2005 - 06:43 PM

www.historiansagainstwar.org/resources/torture.doc

Americans have adopted the religion that all Others are cattle.
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 12:50 PM

Originally posted by Bader
Warsaw was the first J gheto but I dont have the date.



First on the world , UK Concentration camp in Zimbabwe (ex Rhodesia) has nothing to do with Warsaw Ghetto.
It looks that you are trying to clean path for US ,
to put US crimes on their prisoners in Guantenamo on Fidel Castro but no way.
UK concentration camp in Rhodesia were in name of British Queen Victoria and it stays on Brits as US crimes in Iraq will stay on US.
BTW UK can forget dream about Zimbabwe ownership.

Warsaw Ghetto was set by Germans in Warsaw during German Warsaw occupation. Any attempt to put blame on Poland for German's crimes is an offense against of International law.
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 01:33 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bader

IT has been claimed Bush fixed the Ohio vote count and won in that state, Kerry should have won. Even attempt at a recount have been interferred with. But I note that Kerry doesnt seemed to have made the news protesting or doing anything about it.
Maybe they know not to bite the masters hand.

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Kerry hasn
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 02:00 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bader
[The US isnt a democracy, its a banana replublic. When the Jewish press tells Americans its not a democracy they will believe it. Until then its a democrcay even when they start getting taken away without charge or court case.QUOTE]

Americans are not idiots. They like to win for any price, and to put blames on somebody else for their crimes committed in their victory way.
Americans use the Jewish international spying and sabotaging network in their war path for cheep labor and resources and in return US pay Jewish in money and blindly support for Jewish crimes.

In result US, using Jew cheeky attitude , push Jews nation in demise, thought single individuals might live happy after. . :)
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 02:13 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bader
[B]After writing off democracy you now advocate democracy although you think democracy needs a dictator to clean up the mess.QUOTE]


Democratic leader can be elected with 49% national opposition .
Democratic leader can stay in power to the end of turn with O %national support l.
Could you imagine the dictatorship ruling without general support ? NO.
So I am perfectly correct stated, that the dictator has to clean the democracy mess. :)
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 03:54 PM

The French are part of an international relief operation that includes forces from more than a dozen nations, including Japan, Russia and Switzerland. "The children are smiling again.

The French, who also are conducting relief operations in Sri Lanka and the Maldives, object to comparisons with the Americans.

Critics of the U.S. military's work in Indonesia say Washington has seized on the disaster as a pretext for advancing its strategic interests in the archipelago and improving ties with the Indonesian military.

During her recent Senate confirmation hearings, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the tsunami provided a "wonderful opportunity" for the United States to reap "great dividends" in the region.

The dispatch of the USS Abraham Lincoln's strike force has been viewed in some quarters as an effort not only to help survivors, but also to burnish America's image among Islamic communities worldwide by delivering aid to the largest Muslim country in the world.

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 09:19 PM

I wished I could get away from the lie-on, but it chases me. Once a while it's good to set the record straight...

'In his speech to the World Economic Forum, Mr Chirac spoke movingly of the "silent tsunamis" of famine, disease and violence that regularly strike the developing world with a ferocity as devastating as the natural disaster that caused vast damage on the shores of the Indian Ocean.'

Wonderful words from Chirac. But the world is full of pretty words, and far, far less action. The Silent Tsunamis are silent because they rarely make the news among the non-issues of the day. Many red-herrings are used to keep people off the real issues like poverty, education, healthcare and the environment. Simply they are not a priority. And when they make the news is to promote charity. But scraps are hardly a solution if people are not taught how to fish, and can only spawn some fat fish... Creating dependency is a bad idea in the jungle--unless you wanted to control it. Well, you know how much camouflage there's out there. We need something different though, just like the late agronomist Rene Dumont (also French) proposed, a world not based on (unequal) trade but in sustainable, cooperative development, good for the little fish. And yet Chirac's ideas, as noble and gentle as they may be, are likely to go unheard by the predators of this world, for whom "education" is a bad word. They rather bet on Globalization or Law of the Jungle that makes some winners--and many losers. Too bad. And I'm afraid nothing but complete dismantling of the International Jungle will do. We have to remind Chirac we must face the lions first...

"The charge against the current wave of democratization [in Africa] is not that it has failed to achieve idyllic political communities, but that, in more than a few cases, it has not performed its most basic function of protecting the ruled from the predations--and the conflicts--of rulers." http://www.findartic..._66/ai_58118481

"We all have a hunt pending. All. Some, the few, catch their prey; others hardly see it; the majority only sees it pass or it lets it go. But whoever doesn't catch his lion runs the risk of being devoured." -Jorge Ramos, in the book 'Hunting the Lion'

Chirac's taxing idea

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Friday January 28, 2005
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In case anyone is getting carried away with the idea that Britain has the only government in the world interested in aid and development, take a note of Jacques Chirac. The French president is an elegant performer in the international arena, and although he could not make it to Davos because of bad weather, Mr Chirac showed he was not about to be upstaged. In his speech to the World Economic Forum, Mr Chirac spoke movingly of the "silent tsunamis" of famine, disease and violence that regularly strike the developing world with a ferocity as devastating as the natural disaster that caused vast damage on the shores of the Indian Ocean. But the possible solutions for the developing world are far more complex and difficult in scope - and Mr Chirac has promoted an innovative and thought-provoking solution to the problem of raising funds for development, which deserves to be studied and supported by the international community.

The Chirac plan begins from the basis that the amounts being called for, while large in their own right, are small in comparison with the sums generated by the global economy. The $50bn in extra funds needed each year between now and 2015 to meet the UN's millennium development goals on poverty, health and education, Mr Chirac points out, is a mere 3% of the annual increase in the world's wealth. That would easily pay for the concrete measures - such as the $2bn needed annually to provide free primary education for all children in sub-Saharan Africa - that are currently on the table. The problem, of course, is how to tap these funds, in order to harness them for development.

For his answer, Mr Chirac laid out ideas that sprang from his Landau commission, which suggested international taxes or levies on a variety of cross-border activities. As a start, Mr Chirac floated the idea of a $10bn annual fund being raised to fight HIV/Aids. Campaigners for a "Tobin tax" were delighted by Mr Chirac's speech - but their celebrations are premature. A Tobin tax - named after the Nobel prize-winning economist James Tobin - is designed to dampen down international capital flows and speculation. Mr Chirac's levy, in contrast, is designed to be as painless as possible; the tax would be applied, in tiny amounts such as 0.001%, to a fraction of international financial transactions such as currency sales. Mr Chirac offered two other possibilities: that the levy could be used to punish tax and bank havens, by placing it on flows of foreign capital moving across their shores. The second, just as ambitious, was a proposal to tax aviation and shipping fuel. This would have the added advantage of being seen as a green tax - although if the levy was set so low, it might not have much effect on the environment.

The idea of a global tax is controversial, and it is heartening that both Gordon Brown and Tony Blair have expressed support for the idea - although Mr Blair admitted yesterday that he had not looked at it in detail. Their response was as heartening, in fact, as Mr Chirac's own expression of support for the international finance facility put forward by Britain as a means of front-loading international aid contributions. Of course, the two approaches are not mutually exclusive. But the mood of cooperation must be catching: a speech by Mr Brown this week was unusual in its warmth for ideas that only a few years ago would have got a chilly reception. In particular, Mr Brown talked of "making sure developing countries have the additional resources they need to take advantage of trading and investment opportunities - and to prevent their most vulnerable people from falling further into poverty". This, like Mr Chirac's scheme, is encouraging. It is a world away from the "free trade fixes everything" nostrum that was once the status quo.

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Posted 01 February 2005 - 08:17 AM

You aught to know me by now Woj, I dont cover for the US and Britain is as guilty.

You still only see things up to a national govt level and thus the
internationalists get off scot-free by you.
Who-ever controls the money - captures the borrowers - has a hold on them by the proverbials. Those who would fight it get slaughtered by the media and never get promoted to the top of the main parties. Those who want to get rich, no questions asked
are not hard to find and make up the majority.
Its the puppeteers not the puppets who the more to blame.
Israelis and US people are just cannon-fodder.

The fact that the authorities have been blocking the ability to recount proves they have soemthing to hide. I think if I remember rightly another factor was that the Governor was a major player in the Bush campaign or something similar.

Your argument against democracy and the need for a dictatorship
is the strategy of the "Protocols".

The Indonesian Govt knew the US and Australia were hoping to find an excuse to set up a 'temporary' military base there, the kind that never end. Made it clear to them no-way very early.
Iraq had 'great dividends' and 'great opportunity' written all over it as well.

The UN has already worked out a world tax. Its very noticeable
how after SEpt 11 they had the invasion of Afghan, planned out,
and likewise after the tsunami how quick to come up with big plans way beyond the area in crisis.
The silent tsumanis are what the protesters at the world summit meetings have been about for some years. They want everyone around the world to pay (what ever tax is used its cost will be passed down) to compensate the damage the banksters do.
The UN should have had a forum on banking as one of its first
goals.
The destruction in Iraq isnt silent. The silence in regards that is isnt just French, its global.
They should scrap the UN and dedicate the funds to an aid fund
instead of taxing everyone as well. after all the national membership funds are from taxpayers. Apart from the fact they are part of the problem.
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 04:16 PM

Bader/Donq;

The European Union lifted sanctions Monday that were imposed on Cuba.
Cuban disrespect for human rights compares to US on Guantanamo looks like frivolity to me.

Chirac proposal indicates big volume of French Champaign on meeting. I see France as a last to contribute to US well being under UN banner.

Internationalism is out , nationalism is in.
Countries will help Iraq but only individually on their terms.

Still US for some time will parasite on profit on pension paid to UN officials and kept in N.YC financial firms , but it is moving to an and. .:)
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 04:43 PM

Originally posted by Bader
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You still only see things up to a national govt level and thus the
internationalists get off scot-free by you.
The destruction in Iraq isnt silent. The silence in regards that is isnt just French, its global.
They should scrap the UN and dedicate the funds to an aid fund
instead of taxing everyone as well. after all the national membership funds are from taxpayers. Apart from the fact they are part of the problem.



Accountability . Whom you propose to hang on global scale?

I use US explanation on question when asked why they care for human rights on Cuba, Jugoslavia, Iraq, no in country like China, Israel etc?. .
US say that doing what they could on measure their opportunity.

I single out the countries the same way.

Whom I could blame in case of UN.

Everybody means nobody. :)
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 04:58 PM

Originally posted by Bader
The UN has already worked out a world tax. Its very noticeable
how after SEpt 11 they had the invasion of Afghan, planned out,
and likewise after the tsunami how quick to come up with big plans way beyond the area in crisis.
The silent tsumanis are what the protesters at the world summit meetings have been about for some years. They want everyone around the world to pay (what ever tax is used its cost will be passed down) to compensate the damage the banksters do.
The UN should have had a forum on banking as one of its first
goals.
The destruction in Iraq isnt silent. The silence in regards that is isnt just French, its global.
They should scrap the UN and dedicate the funds to an aid fund
instead of taxing everyone as well. after all the national membership funds are from taxpayers. Apart from the fact they are part of the problem.



Howdy Bader and Woj
The UN would like a world tax. Of course, who else will manage it but them? The education provided will be about creating dependency. Food production will be abandoned. And the scandal about corruption will surface a few years later...

Well, but it's all talk, because who will cancel African debt?

You know, the lion must be fed, and the silent tsunamis will continue their devastation.;)

Perhaps this post can shed some light into the inner workings of the financial jungle...

"The exponential debt curve thus created can only lead to imbalance, poverty,
pestilence, pollution and war as inequity and control rise with the power of
those in charge of the system."


Hello and in further response to Sjaak, I would add:

INTEREST-FREE MONEY


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Posted 01 February 2005 - 05:15 PM

Originally posted by donquijote
Howdy Bader and Woj

Cheers,.




"what bothers you"

European diplomats said any formal US veto on the types of weapons EU member states would sell to China would be unthinkable.
http://news.ft.com/c...000e2511c8.html

Us sell weapon to Taiwan.

World going separately ways. Silence on Iraq is global , but it opens ways as well. :)
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Posted 02 February 2005 - 05:10 AM

The Banksters business of course.

DonQ's post about the money scam, which I have explained before, shows why nations are in bondage into future generations and it can only get worse in time.

It is injustice to cancel only one block of nations debts. There should be an international termination of the scam and all debts cancelled. A just central bank can make the necessary arrangements to tie everything over until the honest system comes on stream. Its easier to do these days with the technology we have than in the past.
All the hype about Nazi gold after the war and swiss banks and Jewish money is petty cash next to what the world has suffered.

All the assets of the banks and subsidiaries should be frozen
until all the resourses etc that have been stolen by them are
cleared by a Court and compensation can be made out of the frozen assets at a latter date.

It will never happen because govts are run by parties that have been sold out way back. Individual leaders get assassinated
such as Lincoln and Kennedy were for trying to change over from the debt system. Same for Hitler who broke away from the
international bankers and printed their own money.

The only hope appears to be Russia and part of Islam, who are already under attack. If they together, formed a competing
and just system, through OPEC and Arab investments in the US
being withdrawn and combining. The twin rivers - Euro and Dollar
would eventually dry up because everyone would refinance through the new block and the best brains in the world would move to their markets. That secures the future.

"Silence on Iraq is global, but it opens ways as well."

Opens ways - what did you have in mind Woj?
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Posted 03 February 2005 - 07:22 PM

Originally posted by Bader
The Banksters business of course.

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All the assets of the banks and subsidiaries should be frozen
until all the resourses etc that have been stolen by them are
cleared by a Court and compensation can be made out of the frozen assets at a latter date.

It will never happen because govts are run by parties that have been sold out way back. Individual leaders get assassinated
such as Lincoln and Kennedy were for trying to change over from the debt system. Same for Hitler who broke away from the
international bankers and printed their own money.


US public TV showed program regarding banks ruling in credit card industry in US what means ruling of Americans life.. . Discussion was started by formed mayor of South Dakota who introduced this unhappiness in his state, with intention of help to grow his disadvantaged cold state.
Today average US citizens have about 8 thousand dollars debt on his credit card account.
Harvard professor indicated that the banks manipulation in interest calls for country regulations.
Unfortunately, practically doesn
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Posted 03 February 2005 - 08:59 PM

Originally posted by Bader

The only hope appears to be Russia and part of Islam, who are already under attack. If they together, formed a competing
and just system, through OPEC and Arab investments in the US
being withdrawn and combining. The twin rivers - Euro and Dollar
would eventually dry up because everyone would refinance through the new block and the best brains in the world would move to their markets. That secures the future.



Should Castro shoot Chruszczow during his visit to Russia?

Recently, because EUl ifted sanctions against Cuba, Fidel Castro became again person in discuss.
I was astonished to see how Castro is great man and reasons how people authentically loved him.
And he is hero on measure of antic tragedy.
Unfortunately Castro is hero who was betrayed.

He was not betrayed by Americans. Castro , as a son of member of Spanish American war, had an expectation regarding US set. His study law in Harvard only could only reaffirm his attitude .d US.. His people loyalty was proved with their blood and lives.

Castro was betrayed by Russians , by the Ukrainian Chruszczow being precisely.
Chruszczow treated Castro as US treated him. . For Russians Castro was anybody.
Brezniew who send on Cuba Russia advisors moved this great hero as a his service man.

People who brought memory Castro
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Posted 04 February 2005 - 05:10 AM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
Should Castro shoot Chruszczow during his visit to Russia?

Recently, because EUl ifted sanctions against Cuba, Fidel Castro became again person in discuss.
I was astonished to see how Castro is great man and reasons how people authentically loved him.
And he is hero on measure of antic tragedy.
Unfortunately Castro is hero who was betrayed.

He was not betrayed by Americans. Castro , as a son of member of Spanish American war, had an expectation regarding US set. His study law in Harvard only could only reaffirm his attitude .d US.. His people loyalty was proved with their blood and lives.

Castro was betrayed by Russians , by the Ukrainian Chruszczow being precisely.
Chruszczow treated Castro as US treated him. . For Russians Castro was anybody.
Brezniew who send on Cuba Russia advisors moved this great hero as a his service man.

People who brought memory Castro vKennedy conflict don-t have problem that Castro should annihilate Chruszczow for the treason.
After Russian Jeltsin treason of Yugoslavia and Putin on Iraq, for Russia will be very difficult to regain trust in the world.

Concluding ; would be much better for Russia to have Castro as leader, than to have lradrs of their own. :)



It appears the Russians nationally are suspicious of non-Russians
and find trust a difficult thing.
In the communist world scheme of things a small state is like a
lesser authority in the system and all are expendable to the cause of the 'State'. So I dont ubderstand why you expect better
if you value this type of system (communism). If you 'buy' the
system you receive the dynamics along with it. You cant seperate it.

Russia and Iraq: have the Russians ever died at the gate defending the Motherland? The enemy is best destroyed deep inside their territory.
Iraq has the full potential of doing to the US what Afghanistan did to Russian. Can you expect the Russians to pass up this opportunity compared to the options included in a major confrontation defending Iraq. THis option would have meant all the lies would be forgotten and replaced by the 'real' terms brought in by the Russians. Lies would have bounced into a second level of bulldust that Russia was behind sept 11 and secretly financing terrorism. That's a dumb option.
Secondly due to the oil flows being interupted - exciting speculationas to future supplies - somewhat the price has gone up which has meant that Russian income has been boosted and debts easier to pay.
I dont think anyone on the old Left will do anything to hinder the
game of appearing liberal
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