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#5121 Torquez

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 08:36 PM

Nobody will be surprised if Putin changes constitution to rule more.Its common practice in third world dictatorships.
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 01:25 PM

Puch- Mikolaj Kuzniecow
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 01:39 PM

As German were surprised in Kursk, American are surprised in Iraq.
After North Korea and Vietnam defeats, US still didn
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 02:07 PM

When do you think EU will lift the ban on arms sales to China?

a. Later this year ---- 40.15%
b. In the first half of 2006 ---- 32.85%
c. In the second half of 2006---27.01%

http://www.xinhuanet...glish/index.htm
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Torquez
Nobody will be surprised if Putin changes constitution to rule more.Its common practice in third world dictatorships.



Howdy Torquez
Welcome to the Jungle, I mean welcome to the debate. I'm the originator of it, and also the creator of the theory that politics better be explained under the Law of the Jungle.

Anyway, you can blame Putin for getting away with dictatorial powers, or you can praise him for saving Russia from foxes' democracy. Yep, not much better that the lion's rule, the foxes create a democratic play in which they get a larger chunk of the scraps.

I'd say the real solution for Russia and for all is to leave behind the Law of the Jungle, a game ALL lions play by. Putin may just be trying to survive in the jungle. I still think though that Russia is the best hope for THE REVOLUTION, PEACEFUL and WITHOUT LIONS of any kind. And the only one that can survive after victory without help or fear of any kind. VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!:cheers:

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Posted 23 April 2005 - 10:27 AM

Originally posted by donquijote
I still think though that Russia is the best hope for THE REVOLUTION, PEACEFUL and WITHOUT LIONS of any kind. And the only one that can survive after victory without help or fear of any kind. VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!:cheers:


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Asian Americans rally against Japan's UN bid. Hundreds of Chinese and Korean Americans and Chinese students studying at US universities on the east coast on Friday gathered in a massive protest against the Japanese government's denial of its past war crimes and its bid for permanent membership of the UN Security Council. Jingoist Japan wants to forget, but we don't," "Down with Japanesemilitarism," "No ambition without regret." Some displayed big posters with photos of badly burned and mutilated victims of Japan's war of aggression. Zhu Hongwen, chairman of the Association of Chinese Students and Scholars of Greater New York Area, said the protest is meant to call attention of all UN member states to Japan's war crimes against Asian countries during World War II and show how Chinese and many Asian peoples feel about the Japanese government's attempt at whitewashing its war of aggression and paying homage toward criminals.
"A country that cannot face its past and the reality is not qualified to bid for permanent membership of UN Security CouncilThe organizers then submitted the letter of petition, along with a banner filled with protesters' signatures to UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan, urging to reconsider the motion to include Japan as a permanent member of the new Security Council. http://news.xinhuane...ent_2867456.htm
Of course everybody knows that Kofi Annan notion is as always US government nation so American revolution stands at the door and it not what US government was hoped for. :)
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Posted 23 April 2005 - 11:34 AM

Condoleezza' Rice-s anti-Russia insults prepared the ground;

RUSSIAN PRESIDENT CONFIRMS MISSILES WILL BE SENT TO SYRIA;
Vladimir Putin? announced in an interview on 21 April with the Israeli television station Ayal Hasson ahead of a visit to Israel and Egypt on 28 April that Russia has decided to complete a deal with Syria for advanced Igla (SA-18) antiaircraft missiles despite the objections of Jerusalem and Washington. http://www.rferl.org...sline/1-rus.asp

Isn
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Posted 23 April 2005 - 11:50 AM

An American Jew has reportedly left in his will two masterpieces by Vincent Van Gogh and Pablo Picasso to an Israeli museum. The art works include Van Gogh's painting "L'Entree de Parc de Voyer d'Argenson a Asnieres," from 1867, and Picasso's "The Seamstress," from 1906.
The multi-millionaire philanthropist, who insisted on keeping his identity secret, offered these works to the state of Israel, as he did with his fortune, which was allocated to a hospital in the region of Tel Aviv.
http://news.yahoo.co...rt_050422142443
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Posted 23 April 2005 - 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Torquez
Nobody will be surprised if Putin changes constitution to rule more.Its common practice in third world dictatorships.


SOROS INVESTMENT FUND QUITS RUSSIA
The Soros Development Fund, which is controlled by billionaire financier George Soros, has sold its last remaining asset in Russia, " and had quit Russia for the foreseeable future. http://engforum.prav...810#post1375810

The dog you raised bites your heel. (Induk Pahk)
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Posted 23 April 2005 - 08:15 PM

Never a truer word.
It is doubly ironic because the US violation of human rights while it
carries on its hypercritical propoganda tirade against Iran and now Russia as it did against Hussein to justify war.

Putin is obviously the number one obstruction to the 'orange
revolution' to change Eurasia into a captive of the NWO.

America is becoming the anglo-saxon version of the jewish gheto,
wherby the majority are captured pychologically within a circled wagon complex believing that the rest of the world is out to get them. It started on Sept 11, 01. If anyone doubts this read the statement made by the Israel leader who just happened to be
in America at the time (and also a previous leader) at the time.

The only defence against this global conspiracy ( to get the jews and the Americans) is to capture all centres of power mainly from within, which justifies their elites actions.
I would suggest that the strongest motive behind the strength of the Bush vote in the last election was in reaction to the global world reaction to the Bushs first term, in particular his wars based on lies. They were niaively accerting themselves in the face of criticism.

Perhaps Soros is selling to get his money out because he knows what is going to happen in the near future, that may cause it to be lost.

"I cant wait when something will go wrong"
One could say the opposite Woj, about waiting for something to go right for a change. You are right about the choices being by the parties, not by the people in a democracy and thus at some point the people have them selves to blame for the leaders, meaning thay get what they deserve.
Which is why DonQ is trying to wake them all up to the law of the jungle. As long as people accept this law they will suffer the results.

Talk about Putin changing the constitution for personal power is
just NWO propoganda, true its typical third world dictatorship
stuff which the US has made major investments in but the US constitution has also been a victim many times and will continue to be so until the citizens ( tax games a typical example)
wake up and stand on the constitution and clean out the foxes guarding the hen-house. Waco for example was not only worse than tienamen square but a violation of the constitution.
The Federal forces operated over State law outside the constitution to deal to what it clasified as an enemy which is the same principle being adopted whereby anyone deemed to be a "terrorist" which can be anyone who speaks up and says the wrong thing or incites opposition can be plucked from any country
by global 'anti-terrorist' forces and taken into a Quantanamu Bay type place where no law on earth apllies. Already some US citizens have been arrested and sent to places like Jordan and others to be torchured on behalf of the foxes guarding the hen-house.

Missles in Syria, the way to fight the terrorism of the NWO?

China is a member of the SC, yet that communist country will have a worse crimes against humanity record than Japan has. There can be no doubt that this development means that Japan will be forced to continue under the control of those who control the US. India is subject to the threat of pakistan which is just a straw state like Israel, a means of control; Russia is being driven into a corner and China offered a cake-walk. Germany inspite of supposedly being swallowed up inside the UE is clearly quietly assuming a global posture.
A chess-board appears to be loading up.
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 10:59 AM

:cheers: Bush urged Congress to agree on new spending for the war on terrorism and asked lawmakers to restrain other government outlays to avoid swelling budget deficits that harm the U.S. economy.
``Taxpayer dollars must be spent wisely'' Bush said today
For the U.S. military operating in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, ``we must give them all the resources they need to protect us from the threats of determined enemies and to prevail in the war on terror,'' Bush said.
In other parts of the budget, ``spending discipline requires difficult choices,'' he said.

He probably thought about social security and medical care.


Bush is spending the weekend at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, were he hosts a meeting Monday with Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Abdullah that will include a discussion about oil prices. intercepts ; Brendan Murray in Waco, Texas at brmurray@bloomberg.net

Stalin had counterrevolution, Bush has antiterrorism.

The most successful countries disasters are done by their own leaders.
Caligula nominated a horse the senator, Bush tries to push Bolton to UN nominee :)
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 11:52 AM

UN seat for Japan for Taiwan?
China demands ; Taiwan question should be correctly handled. The issue lies in the core of China's interest, involves the national sentiment of 1.3 billion Chinese people. China hopes the Japanese side fulfill its commitments by demonstrating through concrete actions its adherence to the one-China policy and opposition to Taiwan independence. http://news.xinhuane...nt_2870002.htm.

It is looks that US with their *UN reforms program* built themselves a mausoleum .
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Bader

Putin is obviously the number one obstruction to the 'orange
revolution' to change Eurasia into a captive of the NWO.

America is becoming the anglo-saxon version of the jewish gheto,

One could say waiting for something to go right for a change. .
Which is why DonQ is trying to wake them all up to the law of the jungle.
Waco for example was not only worse than tienamen square but a violation of the constitution.

Missles in Syria, the way to fight the terrorism of the NWO?

Russia is being driven into a corner and China offered a cake-walk. Germany inspite of supposedly being swallowed up inside the UE is clearly quietly assuming a global posture.



DonQ tries to resurrect Cosa Nostra, syndicated crime organization. His idea is nothing else only Mafia groups or
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 06:55 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
DonQ tries to resurrect Cosa Nostra, syndicated crime organization. His idea is nothing else only Mafia groups or ?families- controlled operations in the world with the heads of ?don-s- authority. Mafia is still successful but only in borders of Italians influences. Donq would like to create Cosa Nostra without borders.



Woj, if you had been eating meat, I'd suspect you caught "MAD COW DISEASE" but you say you are a vegetarian. Have you been cheating?

Maffia is lion. You serve a lion in it, you die for the lion. Nationalism is the same thing. Head of family is head of state and head of the army. You must obey no matter what. Country, flag, God, Hitler, Mussolini, Bush, Berlusconi, Blair...:confused:

I'm talking about NO LION... COOPERATIVES, NOT MAFFIA. The little animals grouping together not to be eaten by anyone, not state, not politician, not boss, get it? Cooperatives are anti-lion!!!;)
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:32 PM

Woj's argument is thesis v antithesis.

In order to achieve United Slavs, which in fact is Extra-nationalism
he needs the NWO to motivate Slavs into a national unit to defeat the NWO over them.

So which comes first Woj, the chicken or the egg?

Why not a Slav coop national entity.

I see a contradiction between anti-national / pro-coop position DonQ presents when in fact its a mystery how a global/multi-racial
disposition can operate through coop economies. These economies would be fragented allowing a lion to develop out of expediency to bring some overall cohesion.
I also see anti-nationalism as anti-culture. Take these away and everyone is exposed to a lion of some kind.
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Posted 25 April 2005 - 11:05 AM

Originally posted by donquijote
Woj, if you had been eating meat, I'd suspect you caught "MAD COW DISEASE" but you say you are a vegetarian. Have you been cheating?
Cooperatives are anti-lion!!!;)



Donq- I am interested how would you start?
Do you expect your coop would be sort of middle ages begging company and you will be King of tramps ?
You might expect that people who have nothing, would be interested the most. Or maybe Bill Gates will donate his 3000 hectares property for that project? Or you expect the miracle with bread and wine?
Some insurance companies in tsunami hit countries would like to see one does their job, so far the victims of tsunami insured by American companies like AIG, live on donation of public charity.

Good people relieve the insurances companies from their obligations so these companies can nicely grow for their bodies of directors and stockholders benefit:D
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Posted 25 April 2005 - 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Bader
[BIn order to achieve United Slavs, which in fact is Extra-nationalism
he needs the NWO to motivate Slavs into a national unit to defeat the NWO over them.

So which comes first Woj, the chicken or the egg?

Why not a Slav coop national entity.

I see a contradiction between anti-national / pro-coop position DonQ presents when in fact its a mystery how a global/multi-racial
disposition can operate through coop economies. These economies would be fragented allowing a lion to develop out of expediency to bring some overall cohesion.
I also see anti-nationalism as anti-culture. Take these away and everyone is exposed to a lion of some kind.
[/B]



NWO already motivates Slavs into a multi- national unit to defeat the NWO over them.
So now only wait when egg turns in hen.
Every Abel has his Cain; clue is to keep him in muzzle and on the rope.
Culture , language and rye bread is very strong starting point. :)
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Posted 26 April 2005 - 09:00 AM

under the orange flag, patron saint mr Soros, best wished from Uncle Sam and Anty Madeline.

Culture, language and rye bread indeed!
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Posted 26 April 2005 - 12:30 PM

New York times information that Pope Benedict XVI was elected with 95 votes from 115 , vanished today from the news.
It is only one more confirmation that votes are not burned immediately after conclave and that Vatican is manipulated by outside world.
It is only one step to demonstration that Vatican and its conclave of Jan Pawel II election was international politics event directed similarly to Jan Pawl II political beliefs.

Jan Pawel II was not lead by blue heaven but US money for Vatican and agents.

As I don
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Posted 26 April 2005 - 12:54 PM

US prison population reaches new high with one in 138 residents of the country now in jail.
There were more than 2.1 million US citizens in jail by last June 30, the Bureau of Justice Statistics said. The prison population has grown by about 900 inmates each week between mid-2003 and mid-2004.
It means the incarceration rate reached a record of 726 people for every 100,000 residents.
It is the highest rate in the world, more than five times that in Britain, and 12 times that in Japan.
The figures showed that 12.6 percent of black males in their late 20s are in prison, compared to 3.6 percent of Hispanics and about 1.7 percent of whites.:D
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