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#5301 Gari-Gari

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 01:35 PM

woj,

your cynism is perhaps justified.
Your collection of citations about politics is really great. I should learn them by heart and shall never wonder again about any headline news. :kowt:
Graham Greene question: is a question that concerns men only. -
For the rest, as you see, some are brighter and some, like me, are less bright, in certain topics. But an effort can be made to widen one s horizons and gain better insights. :D
I am sorry that the "God" really got you freak out.
Would you prefer if I put a Lenin sig?
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#5302 donquijote

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Gari-Gari
Dear Donquij,

Your activites sound very lively and I suppose they are similar though perhaps even more intense than what I used to be involved with at the peace mouvement. The question with such activities is, in which one puts all one s heart and usually also own resources, whether one will be able to make a still a normal living aside of or from them. Usually these are voluntary jobs and they consume up to 18 hours a day... So one needs to be lucky for having the conditions to be able to sacrifice oneself for ideas that need to be fought for but which will not bring any (material) income whatsoever. It is wonderful that you are active with it, in a place where such activites are really needed.



Hi Gari
Well, I have the time and have figured out a way of getting almost unlimited flliers with pennies, so I just hand them out free, even though I could be charging for it. What keeps me going though is THE WARM RECEPTION I GET with the jungle stories. And on top of that it's very funny and sexy. I'm producing fruit revolutions, which I then print on one side of the page, and the other goes with some revolutionary stuff I want them to read. The latest flier has a recipe about PAPAYA (woman's vulva) mixed with banana and sweetened milk.:devil:

The next step will be MAKING T-SHIRTS with a slogan like "PACIFY THE BEAST... GIVE THE BANANA TO THE LION" with the logo...http://pbskids.org/l...ages/banana.gif :cheers:

The grandson of Che Guevara (the famous guerrilla leader) loves this idea and he's a designer, but he's rather unreliable, so we'll see...
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Posted 21 May 2005 - 05:45 PM

Don Quixote wrote:

'Indeed, there are only four rules on Samar. Three,
written, that relate to hosting guests, procedures for
admission of new members and general meeting quorums.
And one, unwritten, to the effect that, in general,
members must get up and go to work. But there's no
formal sanction against a member who fails to obey
this rule; rather, it is assumed that he or she is
going through some kind of crisis. Date harvesting
chief Menahern has been here almost since the start,
having grown up on Kibbutz Ma'anit and so, like the
rest of the kibbutz-raised founders, known the
pitfalls to avoid. "We knew what was wrong with the
other kibbutzim," he says, "and consciously avoided
all of it."'

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Stan Szopa <sszopa@yahoo.com> wrote:

It is good idea to have the Kibbutz.

It is actually very good for the Sociopathic Lion,
because many people who doesn-t like the Sociopathic
Lion-s world will hide in those sanctuaries and build
new wealth (by hard work)almost from the scratch and
the Sociopathic Lion -will take this new wealth in the
right moment.

There is a major fault in this solution.

Thousands of years of human progress belongs to all of
us to use it.
We can not permit the Sociopathic Lion to enjoy the
Lion share of technology.
The High Cabal are enjoying luxury life and are
shamelessly showing it on the TV to the majority of
people that lives are getting harder and harder.

Let-s stop the Sociopathic Lion (The High Cabal) from
excluding majority of people from getting fruits of
human progress.

Best regards,
Stan

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Howdy Stan
I was mislead by the title and gave it low priority...until I realized you are talking about the SOCIOPATHIC LION.

Your concerns about the beast are well founded, since he's above all things a HUNGRY LION. Once the little animals get together and create all that wealth without him, he'll start plotting to take it away from them... But the little animals are well prepared for this and they would have tasted the GOOD LIFE, and they are trained in both GUERRILLA WARFARE and NONVIOLENT DEFENSE, and know that ultimately the lion and his hyenas and poisonous snakes are a minority, and that they can decide at any minute to STOP FEEDING THE BEAST. So it is that GENERAL STRIKE is the ultimate weapon in the hand of the little animals.

Then the lion, who ain't by no means a fool, decides to back away, leaving the happy little animals in peace... ;)
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#5304 donquijote

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 06:12 PM

http://engforum.prav...191#post1412191
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Posted 22 May 2005 - 08:26 AM

Howdy Gari-G:

My pleasure to share; not an expert but a student for life....

I enjoy visiting

www.israelshamir.net

and

www.barrychamish.com

from time to time.

I recommend "Jews and the Empire" a speech by Shamir to the House of Lords this year on invitation by a Muslim MP.

Chamish has a link to 'jewsagainstzionism.com' who call themselves 'true Torah' and also a link to his other site "redmoonrising.com" where I recommend his comprehensive research called "The Globalists and the Islamists - fomenting the 'clash of civilisations' " which will give you a different prespective on the world since Sept 11 to now, and even go back to the breakup of Jugoslavia.

For culture you may like "myjewishlearning.com"
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Posted 22 May 2005 - 11:55 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gari-Gari
[Graham Greene question: is a question that concerns men only. -
I am sorry that the "God" really got you freak out.
Would you prefer if I put a Lenin sig? QUOTE]

You are correct; evil is a masculine when angel is sexless , why it is, the only expert on evil; Bush might know it .:)

EuroVision was the big success , thought all songs sounds like one, but the Greece won , leaving far behind the super trolls which voted on Israel what only indicated where their money come from.

From Slavs countries only Russia and Ukraine went to dogs, when Yugoslavia nations rebuilt the cooperation.
And Serbia Montenegro song was the best and patriotic, and what was nice to hear; that voted for them Albanians and Turks.

We all Slavs will coop together and not necessary on tone setting by Israel.:)

Long life for Slavs and their friends; big grave for their enemies.. Cooperation of the ex countries of Yugoslavia the best example of coop on EuroVision. . East won.
Gari- Gari ; you forget that I am ultra nationalist and Lenin was not pure blood Slav.
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Posted 22 May 2005 - 12:04 PM

Graeme Taylor <telergy@bigpond.com> wrote:
Stan asks "Who is the lion?"

Sadly, a major part of the lion's divide and rule behaviour seeks to make an
enemy of the other. I am pretty convinced that the lion resides in the minds
of all of us.

It's the way of the world. It's managers serving their shareholders. It's a
lot of things, but it is a social construct, and perhaps once revealed, we
can move forward.
Labels like "cabal" and conspiracy of an elite group do little to humanise
the issues, or further awareness. Such labels just get dismissed as
conspiratorialist, and don't identify the structural arrangements which are
the problem.
It' ends up playing by the rules of the oppressive structures, and it leaves
most people feeling hopeless/helpless/scared to speak out.

Personally, I believe that when most people fully understand that for over
thirty years, no country has sent an astro/cosmo naut more than 15,000miles
away from earth.
(Beyond the Van Allen Belts)
Of course the US managed this freak of nature six times 36 to 33 years ago,
and beamed 'em back up from the moon, and got them back to earth, without a
hitch.
That was largely before satellites and cyberspace, so it is even more
incredible.
But Nixon wouldn't have told any fibs heh?

makes one wonder

cheers
Graeme Taylor

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Howdy Graeme
I leave the term lion vague as to fit a variety of situations, but we may be safely define it as THE OPPRESSOR. I want the guy in jail to see the lion in his abusive guard, and so the wife in her abusive husband. Of course, there's a little lion in us as well, perhaps waiting to come out in a position of POWER. That's why I'm inclined to anarchism, without losing sight of the need for a small but efficient government, a GOOD LION if you will. But the best solution will always be the COOP, little chance for the beast rising there.

However THERE'S EVIL out there. From the highest levels (the cabal, who I call the "puppeteer") to the lowest (the fat bureaucrat working for lion, who I call the "puppet"), they are all intent on keeping the little animals down. They roar at you if you spell the word L-I-B-E-R-A-T-I-O-N. And I dedicate my lion to them, wherever they hide. NO LION NO PROBLEM!!!
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Posted 22 May 2005 - 12:45 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
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We all Slavs will coop together and not necessary on tone setting by Israel.:)

Long life for Slavs and their friends; big grave for their enemies.. Cooperation of the ex countries of Yugoslavia the best example of coop on EuroVision. . East won.
QUOTE]

UK ready to use EU veto to keep EU rebate on EU budget.
And it is not surprise. Parasite will not change its parasite nature still fought only in Europe borders.
And tnext UK states that UK and US grow fastest in G7.:wonder:

Fertilizer will change in gold.
South Koreas ships fertilizer to North despite of North Korea nuclear standoff
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Posted 22 May 2005 - 03:47 PM

Graeme Taylor <telergy@bigpond.com> wrote:

Rather than use the term "EVIL", I prefer "damaged people", and it better
explains what you wrote..........

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I use the harshest word for those who rather hold others back. It's the MONOPOLISTIC LION that HATES COMPETITION. And some even say, the roaring lion is Satan.

I explain it in these terms...

What makes a lion a lion?

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"The greatest sin is competition"
-John D. Rockefeller

Firstly, there's the person--wealthy person, powerful person, bureaucrat, soldier, policeman, whatever--that ALTHOUGH BENEFITTING FROM THE JUNGLE sees the need for change in light of the chaos and insecurity in society not to mention the poverty of the little people, and will choose to cooperate... This is NOT a lion, as he becomes one of us.

Secondly, there's the type that won't participate in anything but who will choose to remain neutral. This is not a particularly bad lion either, as he understands the needs of others and accepts COMPETITION.

Lastly, there's this person who fails not only to join anything but who opposes any change for the better, and who won't accept competition. This is the MONOPOLISTIC LION, Satan himself indeed...

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OK, here's this man reluctant to pay more taxes, but who's willing to accept competition. We can say of him he's not the real bad lion...

"Is there a possibility of left-right coexisting?"
OK, the usual left-right debate: One accuses the other of being an "infidel," but is it a red herring? Are we having a real divide not between left and right, but between authoritarian and non authoritarian? Or simply each quadrant should fight for their own turf and drag everybody along, the way both Communism and Conservatives do? I see a Humanist left-right, anti-authoritarian coexistence happening.

> > is, "I got mine, to hell with everybody else." You make a good Republican.
>
> You are being nonresponsive, appealing to emotion, and being insulting.
> Like most liberals you cannot discuss this logically but instead want
> to discuss it emotionally. I refuse to. Your goal isn't to solve problems,
> your goal is to take from one group, give to another, and create a
> constant, never ending cycle of dependence.

Brent, let's be creative, let's be free-thinkers here.

There's two ways to help the poor: TAXATION, which is rejected by many people, and HELPING THE POOR HELP THEMSELVES, which is what I propose. The poor must be helped, for themselves and for the rest of society--crime, homelessness are just two ways in which society pays a heavy price for its indifference.

One solution is the COOPERATIVE, where the poor can lift themselves up, or "learn to fish." It can be found in a small decentralized country like Switzerland or in a "socialist" country like Denmark. It won't take any special effort from you. Your neutrality will be good enough.

> What do you accomplish with regards to society when you eliminate
> consquences to irresponsible behavior and penalize responsible behavior
> with a taxes designed to take from those who do the later and give
> to those that do the former? What do you accomplish by this, long
> term, not short term of giving a kid a full belly tonight, but LONG TERM?
> What kind of adult does that kid become? What is a more likely future
> for that kid? To start having children at 16 years old, drop out of
> high school and follow what his parents did or spontatously work hard
> in school and become a wage earning professional? What is the more
> likely consquence of your handouts?
>
> Instead of just handing out money, make it so they don't need handouts
> to live. Create oppertunity, break the cycle. But that means less power
> for the liberals, the socialists. No dependency means no power, so that
> is unlikely to happen.

True, we don't want dependency, but we don't want the jungle either, right?

There's political compass where people like you (Right Libertarian) and me (Left Libertarian) both fall under the horizontal line that rejects AUTHORITY, what I call the "lion." In other words, they--conservatives and communists--have a lion that hates COMPETITION running the jungle. You don't hate COMPETITION, do you?

very interesting...
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
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Posted 22 May 2005 - 07:08 PM

A slavic empire based on blood is still an empire and if based on race is 'on tone setting like Israel'.

The UE is a an empire based on multi-racial defusing of peoples right to be free. The basis of the need for it to create an empire,
a revival of Roman Empire is the debt-money system, they had to make a 'raft' to stay afloat. invasion from the inside.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 03:23 AM

Howdy guys
I'll be away for a month, so just go on debating a better world. Oh, happy hunting...:cheers:
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 03:55 AM

Donquij,

perhaps you are off with that grandson of Che...
careful in the jungle
have fun!




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Posted 23 May 2005 - 06:26 AM

One months jail for inciting revolution by pamphletes and bananas?

Have a good break DonQ.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 12:55 PM

Originally posted by Bader
Howdy Woj:

You believe in human cannon-fodder. The end justifies the means eh? Crimes against humanity to me but you would only call it a crime if it was against Slavs.

Russian Patriot Act. Yep, thats socialism for you. Do citizens
need a a breathing act to breath? It should come naturally but the state believes it has the right to prescribe what already exists! Who will be first with a Parental Sex Act?

So all you need Woj is a Slavs Unite Act.

Hitler was a blessing to millions and many countries? YOu assume
he planned the second half of the World War? He was the fall-guy, thank someone else. It was the US that pushed for the
disolution of the French and British Empires at the end of the war.
It made way for the new international regime out of Bretton Woods and the cold war destablisation by Moscow and Washington to make healthy democratic growth impossible and you listed a number of those counties that you think were liberated. Liberated to what? CIA banana republics?
The break up of Yugoslavia was the same operation but fast-track.

Slavs cant even help themselves so how are they going to help anyone else. Poland right now is helping Bush in Iraq, perhaps all Slavs should go there to unit? At least get liberated by a car-bomb.


Finally it was very frank answer, especially that you know that in Poland is mandatory military service and these Polish who are in Iraq are not from their free will.
But I will tell you secret that European Union will stop pay for yours Uk American service and your beloved England will dissolve with big smell.

First will go Scotland after Northern Ireland and last the Walsh. This is unity kept by the force and who could left England, they already did it ; Walsh to Australia, Irish to US or NZ.

These who will stay will be not interesting in paying to the V column to kept Falkland Island or Northern Ireland or Gibraltar, or pay for crimes the sending the nuclear submarine to Falkland Island with new magnetic fuel.
It would be enough one word from Russia to ignite the new Argentina war with UK war and to find thousand voluntaries to send on UK to start the true nuclear war. Same nuclear war what Margaret Thatcher planned for Argentina when she ordered to blast Argentina with blessing of Reagan .
Nothing is forgetting on this world; but why to make dirty hands himself, better waite when UK will dissolve its as big fusion from self start.
And UK will stay as a Roman arena where the Hindus, Jews and Pakistanis will fight for her leftovers.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 01:39 PM

Turnout 70%.
Natural resources:
oil, coal, copper, molybdenum, tungsten, phosphates, tin, nickel, zinc, fluorspar, gold, silver, iron .

It looks that past visit Mrs Clinton in their yurt and drinking yogurt .with pleasure rMongols emoved from their memory:)
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 02:14 PM

Radical changes in pensions ; to penalize graduates by making them wait longer for a state pension.

Is the Tony Blair is the president of labour Party or pursuant the politics of conservative W. Bush ? :angel:
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 07:43 AM

Jo Vialls did an article on that Woj, I think.
Just another piece in the jig-saw.
Poland is part of the Dollar empire, so no point in attacking the
Anglo-American Establishment.
Did you include all the European countries in your list recently of the nations Hitler freed? He also freed them from independance
so they could join the new Roman Empire. In fact Goebels tried to set up the Common Market in 1944.
Seems many puppets know about the future plans and fancy they are the 'messiah' to fulfill them, perhaps the latest are the Bush family.
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 03:20 PM

Originally posted by Bader
One months jail for inciting revolution by pamphletes and bananas?

Have a good break DonQ.



Howdy guys
No, I was working for the benefit of science...

I was participating for the first time in a study of some medication, but was dismissed. This allows me to make some money--without the lion.;)

Anyway, we got to look for other means to make the ANTI-LION REVOLUTION pay for itself. I'm working on the T-shirts. "GIVE THE BANANA TO THE LION!" is the slogan. I hope you guys wear it proudly!!!

And also we could market a line of perfumes with the added benefit of being an ANTI-LION SPRAY. When the beast roars at you, just shoot the stuff at him. "PARFUM pour LION," I suggest we name it.:cheers:

We can put some pepper in there, can't we????:devil:
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 05:57 PM

Originally posted by Gari-Gari
Donquij,

perhaps you are off with that grandson of Che...
careful in the jungle
have fun!



He agreed it ain't the time for violence. We better use the PARFUM POUR LION against the beast. Or should we try first the banana?:kowt:
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 08:27 PM

Donquij,

...oh good to know that Che s grandkid might be following the peaceful non-violence path ? la Mahatma Gandhi. InShalla!

Perfumes are great. What about a combination: "Perfume Banane du Jungle"?
"Exclusif Banane Lion"
"Vaporisateur ? la Banane Sauvage"
"Calmant Lion"
"Banane de Luxe", cadeau pour lion
"Arome Banane Pacifique"

...:) :P :P :P




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