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#5561 donquijote

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Posted 13 February 2006 - 01:12 AM

see survey...

http://engforum.prav...threadid=159384

I was watching last night 'The Day After Tomorrow,' in which a catastrophic storm wipes out half the world as a consequence of Global Warming, and while Hollywood was written all over it, you could see the risks of doing nothing. With so much money being wasted in fighting terrorism and exploring life in other planets, next to nothing is being done to secure a future for our children. Well, they are going to need a superhero to save them --or a revolution...

"I'm fed up to the ears with old men dreaming up wars for young men to die in." -George McGovern

A REVOLUTION FOR THE YOUNG?
Sorry guys, but this revolution is for the young--or at least for the young at heart. The young try to find the fairy tales about Good and Evil they were taught in their childhood and find nothing but a jungle in the real world, with no happy ending... They simply have been lied to. And then perhaps it's natural for them to turn into a greedy hypocrite later in life, given the harsh reality of a jungle where you better be predator than be prey...

The future of younger generations is being sacrificed for short term profit for a few, while environmental treaties like the Kyoto Protocol are ignored. What do the older voters who put a war-mongering, environment-hater president in power care about the future? Firstly, they don't know what's going on. Secondly, they don't have a future. They die and leave others in a messy world. I have approached the young though, and they, of course, have a hope of a better world. So, yes, there's a generation gap, and we need a change of generations.

"The two major countries currently opposed to the treaty are the USA and Australia. Some public policy experts who are skeptical of global warming see Kyoto as a scheme to either retard the growth of the world's industrial democracies or to transfer wealth to the third world in what they claim is a global socialism initiative."

KYOTO PROTOCOL
http://en.wikipedia..../Kyoto_Protocol

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#5562 Bader

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Posted 13 February 2006 - 04:07 AM

The more powerful nations have at their disposal new technologies that control weather/ use it as a weapon, cause tsunamis, volcanos, nuclear blasts with no radiation, tesla domes that cause military aircraft armed with nuclear weapons and missles to explode on 'contact' with the electromagnetic field.

Kyoto and the other global summit treaties are designed to reverse the world into a semi-industrial global community with two thirds of the population murdered to form a new society under an elite.

The average person will not believe it because it seems so far fetched. Yet the last century was possibly one of the ugliest of all throughout history regards mans inhumanity to man. This century promises to be even worse.

People still dont know that Pearl Harbour was allowed to happen that the same regards the Twin towers and that the twin towers went down by demolition not by the aircraft which it was designed to withstand. Are the young in heart more able to tell the diference?

The younger generation have no basis to correct the world because they have been educated in the dumbed down system, conditioned to political correctness by the universities, learnt from liberal parents to reject any good thing from the past. All youth have on their side is energy which is why they are always used to make war.
Even young at heart isnt the answer since it is the conservatives that move the slowest away from what has worked to 'new ' ideas that arrive at a changed nature of the problems that passes for problems solved.

It's about principles/philosophy. There is no basis to presume that the answer to all mans problems is total unity because if you are realistic such would have to be tyrany. The Soviet Union tried that.

On what basis do you DonQ claim that the older generation voted for Bush? Secondly you forget that Bush wasnt voted into office he was appointed like Hitler the first time and the second time they had a computer not secured that enabled them to interfer with the votes which enable then to rig the result in key states.

You cant have a youth dictatorship because that is still a dictatorship. Remember that George Bush was young once.


The world is in perpetual revolution, so I argue we need to stop the revolution and stop being led by the nose.
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#5563 Torquez

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Posted 13 February 2006 - 11:20 AM

What can those descended from Slavs recognise of the past that wouold unite them into a block or market?

It already happened.Descendants of Slavs like Poles or Czechs joined EU and NATO to escape the grasp of Russia.

United Slavs forward to the bright future.

Ice plains of Siberian Gulag being occasionally shot or tortured by their Russian "brothers" ?
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Posted 13 February 2006 - 02:08 PM

"Remember that George Bush was young once.'"

Yes , but today Russia has surplus in budgetwhen USA deficyt, and Cheney
Shot his fellow hunter.
Bush and his Friends didn
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Posted 13 February 2006 - 03:04 PM

Rurik princes maintained their control over Kievan Rus and later Muscovy until 1598, Igor is held to be the real founder of the Russian princely house and established control of the trade route. Unfortunately the southern trade decline since in the late 11 th century.Saint Olga 890-969 was first recorded female ruler n Russia,. she served as regent of Kiev (945-964)after the assignation pf her husband Igor 877-945: she avenged his death by having his murders scalded to death.
Probably baptized in c 957 at Constantinople she becomes the fist member of the family of Kiev who adopted Christianity. She was canonized as the fist Russia Saint of the Orthodox Church. Unfortunately the southern trade decline since the sack of Constantinople 1204.
The Venetians who had been hired as transportation provider, diverted the crusade to their own ends, Fist it attacked the Christians city of Zahra and then Constantinople itself.
The result was the establishment of a series of Latin states in Greece and the Aegean and the permanent collapse of communion between Catholic and Orthodox Churches.
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Posted 13 February 2006 - 06:56 PM

Nobody in the West or Poland cares about Orthodoxy.
Only Orthodox faithfull believe they are a concern to westerners.In reality Westerners don't care about it at all.
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Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:45 PM

Saints Cyril and Methodius-Slavic Saint
born c. 827, Thessalonica, Macedonia
died Feb. 14, 869, Rome
born c. 825, Thessalonica
died April 6, 884, Moravia; feast day for both, Western church February 14; Eastern church May 11
Brothers who Christianized the Slavs
They began missionary work among the Slavs of Moravia in 863. Gifted scholars and linguists, they translated the holy scriptures into the language later known as Old Church Slavic (or Slavonic) and are credited with inventing the Glagolithic alphabet (see Cyrillic alphabet). In 868 they traveled to Rome to defend the use of a Slavic liturgy. When Cyril died, Methodius returned to Moravia as an archbishop. Known as the
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Posted 13 February 2006 - 09:09 PM

Brothers who Christianized the Slavs


Moravian slavs maybe.Did they Christianized Poland ?

the two brothers influenced the religious and cultural development of all Slavic peoples.

What is their influence on development of Polish people ?

they translated the holy scriptures into the language later known as Old Church Slavic (or Slavonic) and are credited with inventing the Glagolithic alphabet (see Cyrillic alphabet)

Did Poland or Poles use Old Church Slavonic or Cyrillic ?
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Posted 13 February 2006 - 09:24 PM

My question was :

Did they Christianized Poland ?


Did Poland or Poles use Old Church Slavonic or Cyrillic ?
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 12:42 AM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
"Remember that George Bush was young once.'"


Back then he wasn't a lion and he could have been in the Banana Revolution... ;)

http://www.topplebus...ushportrait.jpg
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 01:35 AM

Originally posted by Bader
The younger generation have no basis to correct the world because they have been educated in the dumbed down system, conditioned to political correctness by the universities, learnt from liberal parents to reject any good thing from the past. All youth have on their side is energy which is why they are always used to make war.
Even young at heart isnt the answer since it is the conservatives that move the slowest away from what has worked to 'new ' ideas that arrive at a changed nature of the problems that passes for problems solved.

It's about principles/philosophy. There is no basis to presume that the answer to all mans problems is total unity because if you are realistic such would have to be tyrany. The Soviet Union tried that.

On what basis do you DonQ claim that the older generation voted for Bush? Secondly you forget that Bush wasnt voted into office he was appointed like Hitler the first time and the second time they had a computer not secured that enabled them to interfer with the votes which enable then to rig the result in key states.

You cant have a youth dictatorship because that is still a dictatorship. Remember that George Bush was young once.


The world is in perpetual revolution, so I argue we need to stop the revolution and stop being led by the nose.



Hi Bader
The young are the best shot we got because they haven't developed vested interestes and are still idealists, from all the the stories of great men and their deeds they were taught in school.

56% of the young under 29 voted against Bush, but still they had a president that dumped their future over the board. I'm sure it would have been even higher if they have had a better option and better knowledge of the issues.

The old are set in their ways and won't change the world. They got power and they won't relinquish it.
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 02:45 AM

And this is not only happening in America, but in the civilized world as well. Tyranny of the old, the infirm, the mentally handicapped...

[Voting behavior of elderly people at the time of the elections for the Lower House of the Federal Republic on December 2, 1990]

[Article in German]

Wilbers J.

Institut fur Gerontologie, Universitat Heidelberg.

Elderly citizens in Germany are interested in politics, thus, a high percentage of this population group took part in the 1990 federal elections. The turnout of the elderly is higher than that of younger voters. For more than 30 years there has been a stable majority for the Christian Democratic and Christian Social parties among the elderly. The Social Democrats and the Liberals are supported more by the younger generations. Because of this stable voting pattern it seems likely that before reaching the age of 60 years German voters tend to develop a more conservative attitude towards politics. Therefore, the theory that voters retain the party preference they chose in their younger years seems not to be valid, at least for a certain part of this population.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....7&dopt=Abstract
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 03:02 AM

Here's still more evidence that the elderly should not vote. And these are only the cases where dementia is severe, not like the place I know, where the elderly don't know what's going on...

The Washington Post
September 14, 2004, Pg. A01

Dementia and the Voter; Research Raises Ethical, Constitutional Questions

By Shankar Vedantam

Florida neurologist Marc Swerdloff was taken aback when one of his patients with advanced dementia voted in the 2000 presidential election. The man thought it was 1942 and Franklin D. Roosevelt was president. The patient's wife revealed that she had escorted her husband into the booth.

"I said 'Did he pick?' and she said 'No, I picked for him,' " Swerdloff said. "I felt bad. She essentially voted twice" in the Florida election, which gave George W. Bush a 537-vote victory and the White House.

http://www.vedantam....ing09-2004.html
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 03:38 AM

'Inequities in the distribution of what have come to be called "entitlements" need to receive more attention in American society. The disproportion of public funds paid to the elderly as over against payments and services to children is a scandal, but almost nobody is scandalized.

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Reasons for the disparate treatment of the old and the young include the simple fact that elders vote and children do not. Entitlements for the elderly have become the sacred cow of American politics.'

http://www.religion-...e.asp?title=211

Well, how do we make it a level field for both? Either give children (including newborns) the right to vote or take it away from the old, is it not? :kowt:
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 09:51 AM

Once you start to disect society regards rights you introduce tyrany. Who cares if point 0006 of the population were not capable of voting and their spouses voted 'for' them. Perhaps we should have scaners in every dwelling to ensure no bulling goes on prior to voting or any talking that could amount to persuasion as to voting.
Have a banana DonQ.
Actually a free banana a day would be good for the kids more than a vote a day.
If children voted I can see mums and dads leading them into the booth and casting the vote for them!

Now as to the disaster of having voted for Bush, DonQ do you really beleive it would have made any difference if Kerry got in????


The Bishop of Rome broke away from the authority of Constantinople, just as Henry the eigth broke away from the authority of the Pope. Yet the Catholic Church claims to be the mother church. The Eastern Orthodox Church is the extension of that which was at Constantinople is it not? Then they are the mother church not Rome. The Russian Orthodox also seperated out from the Eastern, did it not?

Slavs are being united by the UE they are being swallowed by the UE.
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 12:08 PM

"Slavs are being united by the UE they are being swallowed by the UE."
Ask yourself if Poles believe they are Slavs or Poles.
Ask yourself if life is better under UE or Russia.
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 01:59 PM

Cyril and Methodius-Slavic Saints

feast day for both, February 14 .
Maybe Valentine Day is more connected with them then with Valentine.

Unfortunately Poland was baptized by the Catholic church. Baptize was accepted during reign the prince Mieszko I, from Piast family in 960.
Mieszko decided not to become the subject the German Heiliges R?misches Reich (Swiete cesarstwo Narodu Niemieckiego ) and took baptize from Czech, Slav country, not from Germany.
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 02:17 PM

Originally posted by donquijote
Institut fur Gerontologie....
.... the theory that voters retain the party preference they chose in their younger years seems not to be valid, at least for a certain part of this population.

Why you use L.King words , but no the Mrs. L.King, whose funeral was in January and who left people with true sorrow?
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 03:03 PM

Country / Region G S B Total
1 United States
4 2 0 6
2 Russia 3 3 1 7
3 Germany
2 0 1 3
4 Norway 1 3 4 8
5 Netherlands
1 2 0 3
6 S. Korea 1 1 1 3
7 Italy 1 0 2 3
8 Canada
1 0 1 2
9 France
1 0 1 2
10 Esthonia 1 0 0 1
11 Austria
0 2 0 2
12 China
0 1 2 3
13 Finland 0 1 1 2
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 03:23 PM

Israeli membership in NATO . true or false?
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