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#6081 vK_man

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Posted 08 August 2006 - 02:34 PM

Mixture of socialism,capitalism and russian orthodoxy ,some also of islam
and the ultimate :

1) more Nuclear missiles
2) High oil prices
3) Reconstruction of the soviet empire
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 04:54 PM

So far I see that only UEFA is humanitarian organization .
It sets ban on meeting organized by Israel .
Most shameful organization in the world is UN
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 05:19 PM

"P- You and I, I believe, have some concept of where we are heading globally. This war is one of the final battles that the globalists hope to fight. With the disappearance of the will to fight the slaughter can begin - protesting and negotiating will not be considered. "
Press is main accomplice in this war.
Some victims even does know that they are slaughter .
So isn
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 06:10 PM

Lebanon's oil spill, caused by Israeli bombardment of oil storage units at a power plant, may rival the leakage of the Exxon Valdez in 1989 if left untreated, the United Nations Environment Program said.
``The spill, which has polluted around two-thirds of the Lebanese coast and spread into neighboring Syria, may threaten East Mediterranean countries such as Cyprus and Turkey.
About 10,000 tonnes of oil has escaped from the Jiyyeh power plant and 35,000 tonnes in total may be spilt, the UN's shipping agency, the International Maritime Organization has said.
``The quantity of oil spilled in Lebanon is already comparable to the disaster caused in 1999 off the coast of France when the Erika tanker spilled an estimated 13,000 metric tonnes of oil into the Atlantic Ocean,'' the UN Environment Program said.
The Israeli navy has maintained more than three weeks of sea blockade, preventing ships from entering or leaving Lebanese ports without its prior approval.

Dania Saadi in Beirut at dsaadi2@bloomberg.net

I hpe that Turkey will not see it the UN way.
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Posted 08 August 2006 - 11:09 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
So far I see that only UEFA is humanitarian organization .
It sets ban on meeting organized by Israel .
Most shameful organization in the world is UN
.:respekt: :scrollhah



How can UN function better since Usrael have veto power, which they are frequently using/misusing. BTW, Kofi Annan's wife is a Swedish Jewess, so maybe he is not that neutral after all.
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 08:57 AM

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 09:47 AM

Originally posted by Bader
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It's a football organization.
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#6088 woj1@cyberonic.

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 02:52 PM

Press
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:28 PM

Originally posted by NotaBene

It's a football organization.


B- thanks NotaBene
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 02:03 PM

Re: Well, Bader....
Originally posted by Pliny
I was doing a little research and the Muslims did indeed treat the Jews a lot better than the Christians. They got along quite well in the middle east prior to the creation of Israel. The Jews being in the minority.

B- Glad to see you are taking a second look. The Zionist plkan was imposed on the Middle east Jews and Arabs and didnt have the backing of the western Jew who were not interested in the radicals from Russiabecause they were somewhat emansipated and westernised. The Russia radicals were gheto freeks on a crusade in comparison.

"I am also now confused about the origins of the Ashkenazi Jew.
Arthur Koestler's theory, in "The Thirteenth Tribe", of their origination in the Khazars, which is all I was aware of, is disputed somewhat by the theory that the Romans brought them to the west as slaves and they moved up to Germany and eastern Europe. I was also surprised to find that Ashkenaz is Hebrew (or Yiddish?) for "German"."

B- thing to note is as in my first reply is that Jews arent all the same anymore than Canadians inspite of the propaganda and some will dispute Koestler. I have read a critic of Koestler but I found nothing compeling. Koestler was a zionist, so I would consider that indicates he is honest because their position looks better if everyone believes the Ashkenazi Jews is Hebrew stock.
They may be cousins to the Huns. Some, I understand link Gog and Magog to these people, I havent seen any material on that yet.
Ashkenaz is the name of a son of Gomer, Gomer the son of Japheth, the son of Noah. Some believe Gomer represents the German people today. These are probably in the main Arian and Iran means arian. There is a conscious afinity between Germany and Iran today, as with Iran and India who are arian as well and the links in culture are far greater.
The hebrews were descended from Shem the old brother of Japheth.

"If Koestler is right and the Ashkenazim orginated in Khazaria then they are not descendants of Abraham at all so Biblical references to the tribes of Jacob and Esau would not apply. The Ashkenazim would have more of an Asiatic and Mongolian ancestry.

Got any insight into that?"

B- you cant learn about apples in a book on peaches. Koestler didnt write about the Hebrew- Israel peoples, he wrote about the turkish-mongol Ashkenazi.

If you want to know the background to Abraham, Jacob, Esau and Ishmael you have to read the chapters in Genesis starting at 17. But after that there is the questions about the 'return' to the 'promised land', who 'returned' and whether the conditions of rights were fulfilled, the manner of taking over and the issue of justice and crimes against humanity. Will take more than one cupt ot tea to get through this lot.

"I suppose that when Theodor Herzl, at the turn of the 20th century, started his Zionist campaign in earnest is when plans to acquire land in Palestine started."

B- the plan started with the first international in Switzerland and his appointment and when he did his honest bit they dumped him for the next stage and each stage they get nastier.

"In conclusion...the Israeli's don't come out looking to good in treating Islam as they do when Islam more or less treated them quite fairly in the past.

I don't have much time to post today so will have to end off here.

Have a glorious day!"

Of course Arians were from India and for this is many proves
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 02:17 PM

Strictly speaking
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 05:40 PM

"Lieberman Pays for Flawed Bipartisan Embrace": (Margaret Carlson) .
Senator Joseph Lieberman's bid to run for re-election as an independent after losing the Democratic primary to anti-war challenger Ned Lamont faces formidable obstacles: opposition from his own party.
Do you call Israel embrace as a
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 08:47 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
[B]Re: Well, Bader....
Originally posted by Pliny
I was doing a little research and the Muslims did indeed treat the Jews a lot better than the Christians. They got along quite well in the middle east prior to the creation of Israel. The Jews being in the minority.



Not surprising at all that they got along. Mohammed when he founded Islam, took most from Judaism (circumcision, kosher laws), some from Christianity (idea of a afterlife; Jesus i revered as a prophet) and the rest according to his own wishes (marry a lof of women, one of them a 6 year old Ayesha at the time of the engagement, another his daughter in law).

"I am also now confused about the origins of the Ashkenazi Jew.
Arthur Koestler's theory, in "The Thirteenth Tribe", of their origination in the Khazars, which is all I was aware of, is disputed somewhat by the theory that the Romans brought them to the west as slaves and they moved up to Germany and eastern Europe. I was also surprised to find that Ashkenaz is Hebrew (or Yiddish?) for "German"."



Must be Yiddish, since it is the Khazars' language. It is true that Ashkenazi means "from Germany". They moved to Russia, Hungary and Poland, when the pressure from Islam got too great and they lost their empire Khazaria around 1016 AD defeated by Russia. Russia, Austria and Prussia got the Jews even more, when they divided Poland between themselves. The German word for Jew is "Jude" which come from Jid (Yid) from the word Yiddish.


B- thing to note is as in my first reply is that Jews arent all the same anymore than Canadians inspite of the propaganda and some will dispute Koestler. I have read a critic of Koestler but I found nothing compeling. Koestler was a zionist, so I would consider that indicates he is honest because their position looks better if everyone believes the Ashkenazi Jews is Hebrew stock.
They may be cousins to the Huns. Some, I understand link Gog and Magog to these people, I havent seen any material on that yet.

"If Koestler is right and the Ashkenazim orginated in Khazaria then they are not descendants of Abraham at all so Biblical references to the tribes of Jacob and Esau would not apply. The Ashkenazim would have more of an Asiatic and Mongolian ancestry.

Got any insight into that?"



"Origins. The Khazars were a Turkic1 people who originated in Central Asia. The early Turkic tribes were quite diverse, although it is believed that reddish hair was predominant among them prior to the Mongol conquests. In the beginning, the Khazars believed in Tengri shamanism, spoke a Turkic language, and were nomadic. Later, the Khazars adopted Judaism, Islam, and Christianity, learned Hebrew and Slavic, and became settled in cities and towns thruout the north Caucasus and Ukraine. The Khazars had a great history of ethnic independence extending approximately 800 years from the 5th to the 13th century. "

http://www.khazaria....ar-history.html

http://www.jewwatch....orthistory.html
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 06:40 AM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
"Lieberman Pays for Flawed Bipartisan Embrace": (Margaret Carlson) .
Senator Joseph Lieberman's bid to run for re-election as an independent after losing the Democratic primary to anti-war challenger Ned Lamont faces formidable obstacles: opposition from his own party.

Do you call Israel embrace as a
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 06:43 AM

Thanks for those references NotaBene
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 12:49 PM

Tsertov game to cover Israel crimes in Lebanon on cost of USA and EU countries.
You may believe in it or smile .
And now an intercept from Bader;

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 03:44 PM

NotaBene : about musical copyrights you heard but not about religious.
But I will tell you, all of these are copies of Iranians
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 05:08 PM

Hizbollah
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Posted 12 August 2006 - 07:11 AM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
"Tsertov game to cover Israel crimes in Lebanon on cost of USA and EU countries.
You may believe in it or smile .
And now an intercept from Bader;

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 03:52 PM

Only solution for Arabs and Slavs is to act collectively and jointly .
We both have to be together regardless if we Sunnite or Shiites Arabs, or Slavs Catholics, or Orthodocs Protestant.
Results of DNA test are more important than religion and culture.
Maybe this statement is a little exaggerations but I try to present the idea and receipt on success and happiness as I see it . .
Sharma law is in my conviction too cruel but equal law regardless of money and power has too be a
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