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#6781 woj1@cyberonic.

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Posted 26 April 2007 - 06:14 PM

Not only W. Gieremek but also T. Mazowiecki , the first Polish premier with Walesa and later Polish ambassador to UN who voted to bomb our brothers Serbs, is removed white Eagle organization ,
for undisclosed information regarding his past. :Party:
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Posted 26 April 2007 - 06:40 PM

The mayor of the ethnic Greek-populated town of Himare, Vasil Bollano, has likened Greek territorial claims on southern Albania to the demands for independence by ethnic Albanians in Kosovo, .
Speaking to Top Channel television on April 22, Bollano reportedly said that "Northern Epirus" (Vorio Epir) -- as Greeks refer to a swathe of southern Albania -- deserves the same solution as Kosovo, which the UN is proposing should be granted independence from Serbia.? .......................
Roughly 2 percent of Albania's population of 3.6 million are ethnic Greeks. :happy: :Potstir:
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Posted 27 April 2007 - 02:23 PM

President Vladimir Putin's statement earlier Thursday that Moscow is suspending its obligations under the CFE treaty.
NATO wants withdrawal of Russian military bases from Moldova and Georgia in the eyes of NATO -- before the treaty can be ratified by NATO allies.
The CFE first came into force in 1992 .. So far only Russia, together with Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, have ratified the 1999 treaty.
As a result, there was no mention of the Kosovo issue, which was a potential point of conflict between the alliance and Moscow.
The two sides also discussed the U.S. plan to deploy missile defense facilities in Poland and the Czech Republic.
De Hoop Scheffer refused to link disputes over missile defense with the CFE issue, saying NATO would like to look at the subjects in their own right.
Lavrov told a separate press conference that the U.S. deployment of strategic components in Russia's doorstep is not justifiable. Moscow do not see any real threat facing Europe that justifies such a system, he said.
President Vladimir Putin on Thursday said in his national speech that his government would postpone implementing the Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE) Treaty since the West made no progress in its ratification
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Posted 27 April 2007 - 02:49 PM

WARSAW, April 24 (Xinhua) -- U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said here on Tuesday it was up to NATO to decide whether Poland can receive a Patriot air defense system as an extra safeguard in connection with the location of a U.S. anti-missile shield on its territory.
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Posted 27 April 2007 - 08:26 PM

One of the Bush Administration's quiet successes has been missile defense -- from the negotiated demise of the Cold War ABM Treaty to initial ground-based deployments.
But that progress is suddenly in jeopardy from opposition in Russia and Congress.
Bush thinkthat he might really need it against the likes of Iran.

The immediate dispute concerns the U.S. offer to extend missile defenses to Europe.
The Czech Republic has expressed interest in providing a site for a tracking radar, while Poland is considering whether to host the interceptors that would destroy incoming missiles.

Linked to upgraded radars in Europe..
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Posted 27 April 2007 - 08:39 PM

Why Russia as another countries could agree on attack against Iran?:wonder:
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Posted 27 April 2007 - 10:22 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
Is European Parliament European?
European Parliament tries to return the Polish mandate to W. Geremek. He, in opinion European Parliament is not obligated to observe and respect the Polish law or Polish Will.

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Why are you confused?
The UE is a bureaucratic super-power like the soviet union was
(without the 'party' as a separate ruling structure) and all nations loose their sovereignty and their individual culture is subordinate to the planning of the super-power bureaucrats.

The philosophy is the supremacy of the state, the bureaucrats serve the internationalists to bring in neo-feudalism.
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Posted 27 April 2007 - 10:27 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
The Senate may give final approval today to a $124.2 billion war spending measure ``
It is critical that we move forward to get the funding to these troops and enable them to carry out the mission .

In addition to money for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the legislation would raise the minimum wage to $7.25 per hour from $5.15.
The measure provides $3.5 billion in agricultural assistance, $3.5 billion for states hit by Hurricane Katrina and $650 million for a children's health insurance program.
The legislation would allow states such as New Jersey to trump the chemical safety regulations announced earlier this month by the Department of Homeland Security with their own more stringent rules.
It would postpone for one year the administration's plans to cut Medicaid payments to hospitals by $3.87 billion over the next five years.
It would also block an administration initiative to allow a limited number of Mexican trucks onto American highways.
njohnston3@bloomberg.net
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Democrats wont make any serious changes. They will just do enough to fool their supporters into thinking they are different.
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Posted 27 April 2007 - 10:34 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
One of the Bush Administration's quiet successes has been missile defense -- from the negotiated demise of the Cold War ABM Treaty to initial ground-based deployments.
But that progress is suddenly in jeopardy from opposition in Russia and Congress.
Bush thinkthat he might really need it against the likes of Iran.

The immediate dispute concerns the U.S. offer to extend missile defenses to Europe.
The Czech Republic has expressed interest in providing a site for a tracking radar, while Poland is considering whether to host the interceptors that would destroy incoming missiles.

Linked to upgraded radars in Europe..



All these latest post indicate the preparation for war. Is all this because Putin prevented the Russian 'mafia' from getting control of Russias oil and gas, which has meant all the Bush effort to date has enhanced Russia more than the Bush controllers?
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Posted 27 April 2007 - 10:40 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
Why Russia as another countries could agree on attack against Iran?:wonder:


If Russia supports an attack on Iran then it must be to test her defence systems in place in Iran. If Iran is crippled then how will they get new systems in place in Poland and Czech Repub.?
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Posted 28 April 2007 - 02:09 AM

Monday 09 April 2007

Vladimir Putin considers the idea "interesting." His Algerian homologue, Abdelaziz Bouteflika, "does not reject it." Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the true strongman of the Iranian regime, considers the prospect favorably. The creation of a natural gas OPEC slowly makes its way and begins to worry Western capitals.

Today and tomorrow, the fourteen members of the Gas Exporting Countries' Forum meet in Doha, Qatar. Together, they represent 43 percent of global natural gas production, a good score when one reflects that the twelve OPEC members control 42 percent of world oil production.

What do they want? Their approach is essentially political. The creation of a real natural gas cartel operating like OPEC will not happen tomorrow or the day after. For a simple reason: there is no unified global natural gas market, let alone a reference price. Prices are fixed by ten-year, fifteen-year and sometimes longer, bilateral contracts. It is difficult to imagine how an agreement between producers could drive up prices under these conditions. That will change, perhaps, the day when liquefied gas trading takes off, but we're not there yet - even if the Forum members dream of getting there one day - and that will necessitate several years and billions of dollars of investment.

Meanwhile, what the great natural gas powers, with Russia, Iran and Algeria in the lead, are looking for is more political: at issue is using energy as a lever of power in the context of rising tensions with the West. Seen from the Kremlin, anything that can strengthen Russia in its ever-more-tense power struggle with the United States is good to use. Putin's demonstrated interest in the natural gas Forum has no other motive. The Kremlin chief knows better than anyone that his country, the premier global natural gas producer, has no need to belong to such a cartel (Russia, moreover, is not an OPEC member). But if that can add an ornament to its Reviving-Great-Power panoply....

In the same way, in Tehran's muscular confrontation with the West, it cannot allow itself to pass up any opportunity to strengthen its ties of common interest with Russia. Finally, Algeria, as Europe's number two natural gas supplier after Russia, easily imagines the advantages it may enjoy from acting as another arm of the pincers surrounding the Old Continent.

In short, although a natural gas OPEC does not exist - yet - the manipulation of the energy weapon, on the other hand, is doing quite well. The blackmail recently exerted on Georgia, Ukraine and Belarus by the Kremlin justifies a certain concern. And when the Ayatollah Khamenei persistently recalls that his country, along with Russia, controls half the world's natural gas reserves, the threat is thinly veiled. Europe's energy security is involved. And the Doha gas Forum - even if it doesn't result in anything concrete in the short term - is likely to weaken that security.
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Posted 28 April 2007 - 05:15 PM

to all :::::::::::::::::::::::

the fact still remains that the question of being "number one" is not a russian question; and does not , in any way possible, relate to the russian culture. the question of "#1" is something entierly of the north american culture.

and also; by the way, it is not possible to even think of russia tolerating an american attack on iran. iran has done nothing against the USA, it is only another case of intolerance of another culture by the intolerant north american culture. the culture which wants to be "number one".

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Posted 28 April 2007 - 10:33 PM

Originally posted by vladzo
to all :::::::::::::::::::::::

the fact still remains that the question of being "number one" is not a russian question; and does not , in any way possible, relate to the russian culture. the question of "#1" is something entierly of the north american culture.

and also; by the way, it is not possible to even think of russia tolerating an american attack on iran. iran has done nothing against the USA, it is only another case of intolerance of another culture by the intolerant north american culture. the culture which wants to be "number one".

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Some may consider Russia number one for not wanting to be number one.

You see there is no 'qualifying' value to the words "number one".
Your presumption shows you are a north american.

I agree with your comments regards Iran. Turkey also seems to have come to the conclusion that the three of them, Russian, Iran and Turkey have a common enemy that has captured the American establishment.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 04:52 PM

Originally posted by Bader
[]Monday 09 April 2007

Vladimir Putin considers the idea "interesting." His Algerian homologue, Abdelaziz Bouteflika, "does not reject it." Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the true strongman of the Iranian regime, considers the prospect favorably. The creation of a natural gas OPEC slowly makes its way and begins to worry Western capitals.

Today and tomorrow, the fourteen members of the Gas Exporting Countries' Forum meet in Doha, Qatar. Together, they represent 43 percent of global natural gas production, a good score when one reflects that the twelve OPEC members control 42 percent of world oil production.

What do they want? Their approach is essentially political. The creation of a real natural gas cartel operating like OPEC will not happen tomorrow or the day after. For a simple reason: there is no unified global natural gas market, let alone a reference price. Prices are fixed by ten-year, fifteen-year and sometimes longer, bilateral contracts. It is difficult to imagine how an agreement between producers could drive up prices under these conditions. That will change, perhaps, the day when liquefied gas trading takes off, but we're not there yet - even if the Forum members dream of getting there one day - and that will necessitate several years and billions of dollars of investment.

Meanwhile, what the great natural gas powers, with Russia, Iran and Algeria in the lead, are looking for is more political: at issue is using energy as a lever of power in the context of rising tensions with the West. Seen from the Kremlin, anything that can strengthen Russia in its ever-more-tense power struggle with the United States is good to use. Putin's demonstrated interest in the natural gas Forum has no other motive. The Kremlin chief knows better than anyone that his country, the premier global natural gas producer, has no need to belong to such a cartel (Russia, moreover, is not an OPEC member). But if that can add an ornament to its Reviving-Great-Power panoply....

In the same way, in Tehran's muscular confrontation with the West, it cannot allow itself to pass up any opportunity to strengthen its ties of common interest with Russia. Finally, Algeria, as Europe's number two natural gas supplier after Russia, easily imagines the advantages it may enjoy from acting as another arm of the pincers surrounding the Old Continent.

In short, although a natural gas OPEC does not exist - yet - the manipulation of the energy weapon, on the other hand, is doing quite well. The blackmail recently exerted on Georgia, Ukraine and Belarus by the Kremlin justifies a certain concern. And when the Ayatollah Khamenei persistently recalls that his country, along with Russia, controls half the world's natural gas reserves, the threat is thinly veiled. Europe's energy security is involved. And the Doha gas Forum - even if it doesn't result in anything concrete in the short term - is likely to weaken that security. /B]

It true.
Polish president Lech Kaczynski was stopped by Americans on his way Saturday to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia where he went to discus for oil and gas contracts.
Americans reawaked their permission to talk about oil contracts with Arabs..
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Bader
B]Some may consider Russia number one for not wanting to be number one.

You see there is no 'qualifying' value to the words "number one".
Your presumption shows you are a north american.

I agree with your comments regards Iran. Turkey also seems to have come to the conclusion that the three of them, Russian, Iran and Turkey have a common enemy that has captured the American establishment.]

Turkish peoples are rather in deep depression.
They finally understand that Americans and English want use them only for their needs.
They remember well that when they helped Daddy Bush in war in Iraq with 90 thousand Turkish military they practically lost oil from Iraq for themselves.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 09:05 PM

Originally posted by Bader
B] The blackmail recently exerted on Georgia, Ukraine and Belarus by the Kremlin justifies a certain concern.B]


What do you have on mind? :crazy:
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 03:03 PM

Again American- English attack on Darfur - capital of The Sudan.
Gordon distinguished himself as a young officer in the Crimean War (1853
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 07:11 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
Turkish peoples are rather in deep depression.
They finally understand that Americans and English want use them only for their needs.
They remember well that when they helped Daddy Bush in war in Iraq with 90 thousand Turkish military they practically lost oil from Iraq for themselves.



That was a case of kissing a backside for a favourable admission into the UE. They learnt the hardway as Poland is.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 07:15 PM

Originally posted by woj1@cyberonic.
What do you have on mind? :crazy:


I dont recall saying such. But obviously there is a three way game between, UE,US and Russia for gaining the dominant influence and the first two want to isolate and strip Russia back to becoming dependant on fitting in with the others.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Bader
That was a case of kissing a backside for a favourable admission into the UE. They learnt the hardway as Poland is.



Turkish had complex inferiority, and they tried very hard to be European.
Women traveled from Asia to Europe to give birth the Europeans and now they see that what they considered in the past as honor is only the plastic decoration. .Lost illusion :sick:
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