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#1741 donquijote

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Posted 07 January 2004 - 07:33 PM

<I've said my piece here.

You seem to be staying on the road despite hazards!!! >

Howdy Pliny, happy new year too!
We still whipping the lion here. The beast is dangerous but somebody got to tell him off. Consolation is there's no lion in Paradise, so we hope...;)
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Posted 07 January 2004 - 07:37 PM

<The primary fuel is currently this thread.
The SUV is the repetition of the same dialogue elsewhere forcing those who are able to talk to one another on this thread off the road.>

OK (I hope you don't own one;)), so how about switching to HOW to get there? How to tame the beast?

VICTORY
Sharp cites three ways that nonviolent actionists can prevail. The first is conversion. Gandhians and many religious groups insist that converting the opponent to their point of view--winning their hearts and minds--is the only true victory. Accommodation, on the other hand, occurs when the opponent doesn't agree with the resisters, but decides it is too costly to continue the fight. Accommodation is probably the most common path to victory. The third way that success can be achieved is through what Sharp calls nonviolent coercion. This occurs when the opposition is forced to make concessions against its will because its power base has been dissolved. Thus, even when a nonviolent campaign is unable to change its adversary's way of thinking, it can still wield power and influence the course of events.

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 03:57 AM

<There are water holes everywhere, but what good are they.
most of the water holes I E rivers streams lakes and now even the great oceans are to poluted to use for drinking water.
That is why we have a zillion different water companies, making a billion dollars a year around the globe.
Now should the powers that be clean up the water, this would cost the water sellers zillions of dollars. Hence no clean up in the works that is for real....... once again $$$$$$$$$$$ takes priorty over our lives.
I have been on to the water thing for over thirty years. In the last three decades neither me no my family have drank
''tap water'' We are wary to even wash in it.
the federal standards for clean water are a total scam, with incest being used to hire those that treat the water and are responsible to keep it safe for human consumpsion.
I for one believe the federal government should be far more concerned with overseeing the provisions of the purest water possible for ALL AMERICANS.
This would be far more important then using millions of police to arrest innocent people for petty drug charges, then haul them off these private MONEY MAKING JAILS, for the simple act of making
more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. rather then spend this manpower to see that our water supply is the finest on earth.
I am for a free market economy, but not at the expense of the
middle and lower classes, when it comes to the most essential
commodity on the planet, ''WATER and AIR.
pretty soon it will cost us 5dollars for a bottle of pristine water, and before the century is out AIR will cost money that is pure air...........
How do we deal with this problem,
we make it a major issue in the next election.
of course big business, will lobby this right into the dustbin of history and our children and their children will suffer the results in the next fifty years.
Yes G I Joe has deep concerns for the humanism Donq, speaks about.

Donq stay with it even a lone voice can be heard crying out in the night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>

Howdy GI, you are a very brave lion indeed, and I know Bader is going to feel confused by the use of the word. Just like there's a bad biblical lion (Satan) there's a good biblical lion (Jesus) and people like you are needed. The ones that are not needed are foxes that shield themselves under whatever flag. The good lion shall rule the Earth with benevolence and justice and everybody will get along. Live and let live.

Now to the question you raised, I think it's of the upmost importance. If we are what we drink and eat, how can we be so reckless to what goes into our bodies? While water is being polluted, bottle water is sold as the "solution" to the problem. It's like the lion poisoning the water around in order that the little animals come up to him!

I heard something like 40% of America's lakes and rivers are not suitable for drinking and even swimming. Whenever you go out on the ocean you see the cans, plastic jugs, oil floating. And nobody cares. Who cares about the issues that matter? I'm afraid bad politics has become good business...;)
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Posted 08 January 2004 - 04:10 AM

<And The New Civilisation,
Author scientist Brian St Clair Corcoran

"The demise of the sovereign democracies will culminate in the control of the worlds affairs by the multinational corporations.
This will result in the establishment of the new international economic order where the political power will be in the hands of the unelected power elite of the Euclidean scientific-industrial complex. This new global economic order is referred to as the New World Order.>

Thanks, Bader. It makes sense to me. Plese keep posting whatever you see of interest. I'll try to check into the book.
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Posted 08 January 2004 - 04:18 AM

< Harlem ny was once a very wealth community, then the upper class moved away and left it to the underclass.
Then those of the underclass that rose above their stations in life,
upon doing so, also left Harlem, and moved amongst whitey.
This would have been forbidden up until the early 60s, but as soon as any man that had the $$$$$$$ could live where he pleased Harlem was left with only the less fortunate the needy the uneducated. Their leaders moved to finer digs, away from the people they swore to defend. so goes the endless cycle of despair.

we must break the chains of despair, or we will all perish from our own lack of careing....... and selfishness..>

Exactly, it's the indifference of the many that dooms us. I see the homeless occupy our better parks while the common people stays home watching stupid television. In the end, taking care of business makes sense for all.

This is an excellent article on the subject you raised...

Urban Woes, Ecological Blight Civil-Rights Activists, Conservationists
Share Same Goals

By john a. powell

Published Sunday, April 2, 2000, The Miami Herald

Given Florida's exploding population, its severe housing shortage and
its fragile ecosystem, the state has appropriately begun to wade into
the issue of urban sprawl. However, the environmentally driven smart
growth measures being explored by Floridians will not alone reverse
the destructive environmental forces of sprawl. Addressing social
justice must be taken on as a conservation measure as well.

By improving life in our cities, we may also be able to save our
ecosystems.

Suburban sprawl, along with its counterpart metropolitan
fragmentation, is the greatest obstacle to achieving social justice in
our nation today.

As people and businesses with the economic means sprawl away from
central cities, they settle into developing suburban jurisdictions
divesting the cities of valuable resources, as well as needed tax
bases. They leave behind low-income minorities in high-need,
resource-depleted central cities, creating fragmented metropolitan
regions with enormous inequities between central cities and developing
suburbs. The resulting borders become barriers, walling off greater
social needs in the central cities while enabling the developing
suburbs to amass valuable resources.

Many are surprised to learn that the destructive and wasteful process
of sprawl has been heavily subsidized by federal, state, and local
governments. Since the early 1940s, our national policy has supported
the proliferation of urban sprawl and the attendant flow of dollars
from central cities.

Only recently have we begun to question the wisdom of spending
billions to build new roads, schools, and infrastructure at the edge
of our metropolitan regions while divesting from our cities. And only
recently have we begun to appreciate that what is happening in our
urban cores affects development at our regions' peripheries.

This relationship between suburban sprawl and the decline of our
central cities and has gone largely unnoticed by those currently
engaged in the anti-sprawl movement and as well as by social justice
advocates. But this must change if both groups are to be successful in
advancing their interests.

The epicenter of the sprawl debate is currently in the suburbs, where
issues of racial and social justice are given little attention, if
they are considered at all. Suburban concerns with sprawl, such as
traffic congestion and conservation, are given priority at the expense
of such concerns as racial segregation, lack of affordable housing,
increases in urban concentrated poverty, and segregation of growing
regional opportunities (like well-paying jobs) away from areas of
racialized concentrated poverty.

Sprawl and regional fragmentation on the one hand, and concentrated
poverty and social inequity on the other hand, are flip sides of the
same dynamic.

The federal government defines concentrated poverty as a census tract
with 40 percent or greater of its residents living below poverty
level. It is important to note that research clearly demonstrates that
this level of neighborhood poverty functions differently and much more
destructively than individual poverty.

Concentrated poverty is also a racial issue. The vast majority of
those living in concentrated poverty are either black or Latino. When
the government first put its national purse behind sprawl, it was
explicitly stated in racial terms. The suburbs were designated for
whites and heavily subsidized by federal mortgage programs, while the
cities, where minorities primarily lived, were redlined and excluded
from participating in these federal programs. With the white
middle-class -- and more recently the black and Hispanic middle-class
-- driving sprawl, low-income blacks have been isolated in the
declining core away from jobs and resources.

Southern Florida faces increasing social and economic disparities
between its growing suburbs and its struggling cities and inner-ring
suburbs. In Miami, concentrated poverty has more than doubled between
1980-90, the number of census tracts where the poverty level was 40%
or higher increasing from 14 to 33. Of the 148,023 people living in
Miami's high poverty census tracts in 1990, over 93% were either
African American or Hispanic. Currently, the largest concentrations of
non-Hispanic blacks in the region are located in the unincorporated
areas and municipalities north of Miami. These areas are also
experiencing the greatest levels of poverty.

Child poverty rates in the region, as measured by elementary school
children eligible for free and reduced school meal programs, confirm
these patterns with more recent figures. In 1996, of the 379
elementary schools in the South Florida region, 56 reported more than
88 percent of their students eligible for free and reduced meal
programs. Forty-five of the 56 schools were located in the city of
Miami and its inner suburbs.

Unfortunately, these trends are projected to intensify in the coming
years, which will make Southern Florida one of the most racially and
economically stratified areas in the country.

In Southern Florida, as in most of our nations' sprawling and
fragmented regions, the social justice perspective is largely absent
from the local anti-sprawl discussion despite these growing
disparities. This omission must be corrected to improve both the
health of Florida's ecosystem and the region, and to reverse the
trends of concentrated poverty and isolation of people of color from
the growing regional opportunities.

Currently, anti-sprawl and civil rights agendas overlap in peripheral
ways, resulting in half-hearted gains on each front. To remedy this,
regional actors driving the current anti-sprawl agenda must expand the
discussion of sprawl to address issues of social justice and urban
decay. Civil rights leaders must also put suburban sprawl and
fragmentation on their agenda -- both to achieve their goals and to
engage anti-sprawl activists in social justice. Neither camp can
afford to ignore the other's concerns.

The Institute on Race & Poverty has initiated a Regional Equity
Project to address civil rights issues by challenging sprawl and
fragmentation trends on both national and local levels. One of our
goals is to connect local civil rights activists with anti-sprawl
activists to attend to their complementary concerns.

Success on both fronts requires increased understanding and a stronger
relationship between social justice and anti-sprawl supporters.
Anti-sprawl advocates cannot hope to curb sprawl without addressing
regional inequities that are both causes and consequences of sprawl,
while civil rights advocates cannot hope to achieve social justice and
revitalization of urban cores without addressing the damaging effects
of sprawl and fragmentation on low-income communities of color.

To paraphrase a statement made by Detroit Mayor, Dennis Archer, we
cannot save our ecosystem unless we save our cities.
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Posted 08 January 2004 - 06:50 AM

Complements of the season to you too.

Sharp and three ways. conversion, accommodation and coercion are all operating in politics.
I would rather see people have some serious thinking about
what is democracy and what isnt so they can zero in on the real thing.
When the British left India and China the Indian lions and the chinese lions still lived on in control of the population as before the British arrived.

The water problem just like all the others has never been taken seriously until too late because it would have cost heaps,
in particular to industry which would have had a serious impact on economies, apart from the cost to local bodies to try and
protect/impove the water after it started to become contaminated. It would have caused society to review the
whole econoimic-financial and scientific approach to life which would have exposed the Bad Lion system.
The bankers are not accountable either in war when they are
making a killing too and in peace when the environment is being
destroyed by their policy and they dont have any policy to protect the environment or humanity from poverty in the midst of plenty.
We kiss they rear because of ignorance. They stand in the shadows of their colosus like giant tree of the jungle overshadowing all else. The biggest dens are where the lion is
surely?
No dens, no lions.

The subjects of the jungle need to be "converted" from the Jungle
thinking/conditioning; accomodation and coercion are seeds fo future dissention and dividsion, and unless people do have a change of mind/understanding the Lion of the Jungle will outsmart them.
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Posted 08 January 2004 - 06:03 PM

Bader;
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Posted 08 January 2004 - 11:31 PM

<Sharp and three ways. conversion, accommodation and coercion are all operating in politics.>

He's bad and mean, then you whip him (coercion); he's good and nice, then you give him the treat (conversion). Another way is the *coops*, in which you decide to part ways. In other words you renounce to taming him and you decide to create some turf for the little animals. Actually the more wild he would be the more the little animals would escape from him. So in the end he may turn himself to conversion. A happy ending indeed...:)

<I would rather see people have some serious thinking about
what is democracy and what isnt so they can zero in on the real thing. >

One thing it's NOT is 'rule by the lion,' so we can say it's rule by the people. The people know this fact and a high percentage of the electorate don't even care to vote. Another thing that must be connected is the fact of the relationship between politics and the economy. A real democracy would give democratic control over the means of production, particularly found in the coops. This in contrast to dictatorship at the workplace, the way it is now...:(

As you will see now, the lion doesn't want the little animals to band together in an union to request a larger share of the water well. In other words, he refuses conversion when asked politely. So we must conclude that we must present him *competition*. He can shove off his dirty waterhole once the little animals create their own non-polluted waterwell (the coop).

"Why do so many U.S. employers fight unionization so hard? Is it because they're so used to dictatorship in the workplace that they simply can't imagine the idea of sharing power, or is it just the same old greed for profits which leads some of them to also reintroduce child labor and the 60 or 70 hour work week?

Globalization and the end of the Cold War have seemingly erased all boundaries on corporate greed and exploitation. Corporations are running amok, seeking higher returns with less willingness to share with the workers who create the profits. There's a lack of checks and balances to curb these excesses, and the results will be disastrous for all of us, including the corporations."

http://home.earthlin...o_organize.html

<When the British left India and China the Indian lions and the chinese lions still lived on in control of the population as before the British arrived.>

Changing lions is not any good. Having homegrown lions only worsens the situation as they make better use of camouflage. And some are even more mean than their foreign sponsors.

<The water problem just like all the others has never been taken seriously until too late because it would have cost heaps,
in particular to industry which would have had a serious impact on economies, apart from the cost to local bodies to try and
protect/impove the water after it started to become contaminated. It would have caused society to review the
whole econoimic-financial and scientific approach to life which would have exposed the Bad Lion system.>

I'm glad you have assimilated the bad lion concept as it opens the possibility of a good honest goverment. *We should never corner the cat* but we can close ranks in defense to the bad lions, which are probably manipulated by the foxes.

<The bankers are not accountable either in war when they are
making a killing too and in peace when the environment is being
destroyed by their policy and they dont have any policy to protect the environment or humanity from poverty in the midst of plenty.
We kiss they rear because of ignorance. They stand in the shadows of their colosus like giant tree of the jungle overshadowing all else. The biggest dens are where the lion is
surely?
No dens, no lions.>

Just expose them, and they'll represent less of a threat. The little animals will run for their lives!;)

<The subjects of the jungle need to be "converted" from the Jungle
thinking/conditioning; accomodation and coercion are seeds fo future dissention and dividsion, and unless people do have a change of mind/understanding the Lion of the Jungle will outsmart them. >

I hope it doesn't happen as in this story...;)

The Kingdom of the Lion
by Aesop

THE BEASTS of the field and forest had a Lion as their king. He
was neither wrathful, cruel, nor tyrannical, but just and gentle as a
king could be. During his reign he made a royal proclamation for a
general assembly of all the birds and beasts, and drew up conditions
for a universal league, in which the Wolf and the Lamb, the Panther
and the Kid, the Tiger and the Stag, the Dog and the Hare, should live
together in perfect peace and amity. The Hare said, "Oh, how I have
longed to see this day, in which the weak shall take their place with
impunity by the side of the strong." And after the Hare said this, he
ran for his life.
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Posted 09 January 2004 - 12:27 AM

UK solves world trouble with lions. .
Using animal sick part for enrichment of cow fed, British managed to implement BSE ( bovine spongiform encephalopathy )or CJD ( Creutzfeldt-Jacob Disease), in cows around world with exception of Argentina; she rightly reject UK deadly offers.
In result with exception of Slavs who preferred pork, majority of lions will become vegetarians.
One more reason to celebrate British civilize and innovation efforts towards the world.
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Posted 09 January 2004 - 02:47 AM

Howdy again, Bader. This article is particularly interesting. Since we don't have the rule of the law, are we living under the law of the jungle?:confused:

PS: There are many other interesting articles. Notice the link on the origin of money.

The Rule of Law
Economist know that having a fair and even playing field with a well defined system of rules can help the people in that country maximize their resources. This helps maximize the resources of the society.

In nations ruled by fiat, and the king can take from the people at will, there is generally confusion and depravation.

There is a direct relation between the rule of law and the wealth of the people.

Capitalism and the Rule of Law
Because there is a relation between the rule of law and the wealth of the nation, many economists have accepted the false premise that capitalism presupposes the rule of law. In the Capitalism and Freedom, I suggest that freedom is not a necessary condition of capitalism, in this article I wish to suggest that capitalism and the rule of law are logically independent notions as well.

The goal of the capitalist is simply the preservation of their assets. Clearly, a situation where the government arbitrarily seizes assets of a business is contrary to desires of the capitalist. However, if we look at situations where the Capitalist has control of the government, we see a different side of the story.

When government protection is for sale, then government contacts become a capital asset just like all other capital assets.

As far as the company ledger is concerned, spending money to buy laws or political influence is as legitimate as any other investment. You spend x amount of money for y amount of return. There are many companies that depend entirely on laws for their existence. This is clearest in the legal industry itself. For example a law office that practices tort laws is dependent on the tort laws.

We can see capitalism at work in the Political Action Committees (PACs) that dot Capital Hill. Many businesses view PACs as an investment. By investing in a PAC, companies are simply buying political protection. You can imagine the ledger. Spent x millions of dollars to buy a law, and received y million dollars in return from the law. Just as a capitalist might invest the returns from their widget machien to buy a new widget machine, the capitalist might invest return from investments into buying more laws.

As more and more laws and political influence go up for sale, the actual rule of law begins to erode. You essentially find yourself in a situation where there is no longer a fair and even playing field. What you have is an economic and political system where a small number of people with a large stock of political an economic capital rule by fiat.

The Free Market and Rule of Law
To the capitalist, political influence is just another capital asset.

The rule of law plays a more fundamental rule in the free market. When party A trades with party B, there needs to be assure that the trade will actually take place, and that all of the conditions in the contract between party A and party B are adequately fulfilled.

True free trade cannot take place in a society where the laws are for sale and the parties with the greatest political connections can change the terms of an agreement by fiat.

While political influence can be seen as just another asset to the capitalist, the rule of law and impartial enforcement of contracts is a necessary condition for the exercise of free trade.

http://crasscommerci.../page.html?a=11
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Posted 09 January 2004 - 03:44 AM

An amusing webpage..thanks!
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Posted 09 January 2004 - 09:39 AM

Nice to hear from you again, flushed you out eh with an old piece of bait- the British!

Perhapd Falcon was answering an sos from Amunsden? Such humanity! And the Norwegians love horse meat do they?

Mad cow desease and the responce has called in a lot of suspicion
and it may have something to do with the policy of entrophy-
winding back industry, food supplies, population growth etc and the release of deadly deseases. One lady claimed she had a simple remedy for that cows desease. They might as well have trucked them to stonehendge and burned them there at night.
Main media produce might as well be produced in holywood too. Why go back into history Woj?
Tony Blair just very recently made another embarrasing statement
which was contradicted by someone in the know in the US.
Makes one wonder how he ties his shoelaces with his teeth in the way. Perhaps all the other MPs in Britain are vegetarians and never ate beef.
Argentina is a top beef country in the world Woj so why would they import beef from anywhere?

Howdy DonQ:
I will look at the Rule of Law tomorrow, its getting late.
But why say "I am glad you have assimilated the bad lion concept.." after all this time?
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Posted 09 January 2004 - 03:38 PM

Something is going on, something is brewing.
Not just in one country. In quite a lot of countries.
After not creative but destructive actions things are in mess.
And a rather bad mess. Evil leadership gets its chance.
Politicians have a feeling that they a kind divine rights to tell lies in good cause. But they want
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Posted 09 January 2004 - 06:14 PM

The Kingdom of the Lion, by Aesop.

"Oh I have longed to see this day.... After the Hare said this he ran for his life."

1Thes 5:3 While they are saying peace and safety then destruction will come upon them suddenly like birthpangs upon a women with child; and they shall not escape.
Thus begins the day of the Lion of Judah.
The Hare must have remembered Jesus warning. When you see the Abomination of Desolation (the bad lion)spoken by Danial standing in the holy place (as God), then flee to the mountains-
like Lot from Sodom.
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Posted 09 January 2004 - 09:32 PM

<I will look at the Rule of Law tomorrow, its getting late.
But why say "I am glad you have assimilated the bad lion concept.." after all this time? >

No, because once you accept the "bad lion" (Satan) concept then you accept the "good lion" (Jesus) concept as well. I think it's a safety valve to leave some escape route for the beast. Remember, he may also be ill advised by the Foxes... Otherwise we may have to say that Jesus is not a lion anymore.

And yet we may want to keep the "no (bad) lion no problem" as an useful slogan.
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Posted 09 January 2004 - 10:31 PM

The Big Lion, after killing the monkey dressed as a Little Lion, claimed that he represented a real threat. But a suspicious group of animals, after pulling out his skin, concluded that it was only a monkey, however bad, that his paws and teeth were fake, and that he threatened no one. And yet the word "lie" is never used. Meanwhile many of the little animals from the jungle of the Big Lion have died in occupying the jungle of the Little Lion. And the little animals, back in the jungle of the Big Lion, look with indifference. Finally the surviving violent monkeys look for revenge--thinking perhaps of the Little Lion, thinking perhaps of the little animals. And they lived happily ever after...:confused:

"There was no evidence to support the claim that Iraq would have transferred WMD to al-Qaeda and much evidence to counter it" -Carnegie report

http://news.bbc.co.u...cas/3378467.stm
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Posted 09 January 2004 - 10:35 PM

<But you are only funny Donq- hypocrite.>

Woj, before I ask you to explain the "hypocrite" part, I'll like to ask you where are you in the food chain? Or better, where will you like to be?

Don't you want the little animals to be independent from both capitalist lion and bureaucratic lion? Do you like bureaucratic lion?:confused:
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Posted 09 January 2004 - 10:45 PM

Bader; It is interesting story of Jewish tribe in the past.
Also Spartacus and 6 thousand of his companions died on cross executed by Romans. (74-71 bc.. But would it prevent the world from destroying a parasite empire? No.
Individuals might die but never an idea of freedom.
And this is difference between man and his dog.
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Posted 10 January 2004 - 03:55 AM

Sorry DonQ I dont know yet what you mean. I accept if you
accept the one then the other is included but after that I cant see what you are saying.

WoJ: Jewish tribe in the past-?
there is a fudged perspective which compares with what the media and politically correct history repeats but I cant acept it.
There is/was no Jewish tribe in my knowledge.
But it is a truth that an idea doesnt die with martyrs.
Persecution usually concentrates and drives the "idea" underground and cleanses the movement of the superficial ones, leaving a more determined hardcore.
We are seeing it again in Iraq. They are getting bolder as they see the cannon-fodder of foreigner empire builders losing faith in what they are doing.
For a variety of prespective on this war on civilians and culture visit:
psychoanalystsopposewar.org
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Posted 10 January 2004 - 09:11 AM

The author's comment "Economists know that having a fair and even playing field with a well defined system of rules can help people in that country maximize their resourses" is logicaly true
but unfortunately most economists seem not to realize that the system isnt such and if they do very few ever bother to try and do anything about it let alone tell the truth to the public.

The public always know where they stand with the King who can take what he wants at will but not the more subtle financial/economic system which robs people in such a way few realize.

The article Origin of Money was rather interesting but in fact is short on knowledge of the history and method of money creation etc. He made a good connection between people and money
but that was all.

He said he was all for the free market but the freemarket is based on corporate power prostituting the politicians- buying the rule of law. He showed no sign of knowing this.
He also said that the goal of the capitalist is to preserve ones assets. I would say if one doesnt increase ones assets they have failed to capitalize and qualify for the title of being a capitalist.

So I wasnt impressed, sorry DonQ
He's worlds appart from all those who protest outside IMF and world trade meetings thats for sure. They know a Lion exists but he wouldnt. For him its no king or red dictator - no problem.
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