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#1 Brendon

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Posted 10 May 2003 - 12:13 PM

U.S. Asks U.N. to Approve Iraq Occupation
Fri May 9, 7:06 PM ET

By EDITH M. LEDERER, Associated Press Writer

UNITED NATIONS - The United States and its allies asked the U.N. Security Council on Friday to give its stamp of approval to their occupation of Iraq (news - web sites) and sought permission to use revenue from the world's second-largest oil reserves to rebuild the war-battered country.



The initial response was positive from some council members who had opposed the U.S.-led war.


But France, Russia and others raised questions about the limited U.N. role, the legitimacy of a new Iraqi government formed by the United States and Britain, and the future of U.N. weapons inspections, which were not mentioned in the draft resolution.


Russia's U.N. Ambassador Sergey Lavrov said Moscow has "a long list" of questions. French President Jacques Chirac insisted that "the United Nations should play a central role."


U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte introduced the eight-page resolution on behalf of the co-sponsors, the United States, Britain and Spain.


"I would say most delegations saw this as charting a way forward; certainly they had some questions," Negroponte said after the closed-door council session.


The plan envisions the United States and Britain running Iraq as "occupying powers" for at least a year and probably much longer, although Britain's Ambassador Jeremy Greenstock said: "We want to leave Iraq as soon as it is possible to ensure stability and normal arrangements for a new country."


The plan's centerpiece is the lifting of oil and trade sanctions imposed on Iraq after its 1990 invasion of Kuwait and the phasing out of the oil-for-food humanitarian program.


"The situation has now dramatically altered and a way has to be found, first of all to disentangle and to disengage the United Nations from many of the resolutions that were passed under entirely different circumstances," Negroponte said.


Negroponte and Greenstock called the atmosphere during Friday's initial council discussion "constructive." Experts from the 15 council nations are to meet Monday to clarify legal implications of the draft. The council is to start debate Wednesday.


Secretary of State Colin Powell said he expected debate would not drag on as pre-war deliberations did. "It's a resolution that will serve the Iraqi people," he said Friday in Washington. "There is a sense of urgency in order to get the U.N. to act so we can start to get the (Iraqi) economy going again."


Diplomats predict tough negotiations ahead. But there is little enthusiasm for a replay of the bitterness in the council that preceeded the war, and U.S. diplomats stressed the proposal is not a "take it or leave it" plan.


At a summit with the Polish president, Chirac and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder - two of the most vehement anti-war leaders - took a moderate tone, saying they were committed to "constructive negotiations" over the U.S. draft. "We are ready for pragmatic solutions," Schroeder said.


The draft notes that Washington and London sent a letter to the council president Thursday recognizing their responsibilities and obligations under international law "as occupying powers."


The letter marks the first time the United States has referred to its role in Iraq as an "occupying power," a status governed by the Geneva Conventions that details wide-ranging responsibilities for the Iraqi people. Washington had called itself a "liberating force."


Greenstock said the recognition of occupier status should please the council members. "That establishes the basis for a clear political discussion as to what happens next," he said.


The draft calls for transferring control of Iraq's oil revenues from the United Nations to the U.S.-led coalition. Russia has proposed that U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan (news - web sites) maintain control over the oil money until a legitimate Iraqi government is formed.


The draft says the money would finance the country's reconstruction, with international oversight. But it envisions only a limited, largely advisory role for the United Nations.

That could trigger opposition from council members who want a major U.N. role in creating an interim Iraqi government - and view the U.S. proposal as not offering the "vital role" that President Bush (news - web sites) and British Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites) promised the world body.

The draft calls on Annan to appoint a U.N. special coordinator to work with U.S. and British authorities and the Iraqi people. That coordinator also would promote delivery of humanitarian aid, the return of refugees, reconstruction, human rights, legal and judicial reform, and rebuilding of an Iraqi police force.

The draft also calls on all countries to deny safe haven to members of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s former regime, and to prohibit the trade in looted Iraqi cultural artifacts.

Several council members said they needed to study the text.

Even though Spain co-sponsored the resolution, Spanish Ambassador Inocencio Arias said his country believes "this text can be improved ... But altogether it's a good way to try to find a solution to a situation which is rather complicated."

Some countries that did not support the U.S. resolution to get U.N. authorization for the war reacted favorably. Angola's Ambassador Ismael Gaspar Martins called it "a good start" and Chile's Ambassador Gabriel Valdes said, "Our initial reaction is very positive."

A French proposal calls on the council to suspend sanctions, phase out the oil-for-food program, have U.S. and U.N. weapons inspectors work together and lift sanctions when a legitimate Iraqi government is in place.
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#2 Brendon

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Posted 10 May 2003 - 01:14 PM

Dr X,

What you are implying is that the U.S. Government could make sure that there is still civil unrest in Iraq after 12 months and go to the U.N. claiming Iraq is rife with terrorists and still needs an army of occupation?

That claim is ridiculous, as most public utilities including electricity, gas, phones are almost back to normal. Also most Iraqis are back at work. Some have even forgotten about the war. In one interview, an Iraqi woman was puzzled when asked about the war. She said: "What war? Oh, wait a minute the one last month, right? Yeah, I remember. Killed most of my family. Almost forgot."
Also, the troops are very popular over there, and none of them really want to leave.

Check your facts Dr X before you start going on about with your ani American propaganda.
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#3 Brendon

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Posted 10 May 2003 - 02:26 PM

Yes Dr X,

Your anti American attitudes betray you. Like a post I saw from another of your ilk:

<.....In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist....>

He was Amercan, I think. Probably a commie. You can clearly see he is trying to attack the Bush administration with his snide insinuations.
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#4 Brendon

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Posted 10 May 2003 - 02:49 PM

<As an American I sure hope you are right about this one oh all seeing one. We need to be free of the Saudis >

Right on, Compared 2What!

It needs to be said. America's dependence on Saudi oil and influence has been going on way too long. And the Iraqis have not been playng the game. If Saddam had co-operated after the Gulf War, this would not have had to happen. But he didn't want to play ball, so now he's out.

Anybody who doesn't like the idea of the U.S. being a military dictatorship in Iraq should remember that shit happens when when people don't play ball. Get over it.
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Posted 10 May 2003 - 05:34 PM

Al Q focussed on the US as a result of American troops being based in Saudi Arabia. I wonder what sort of monster will grow out of the US occupation of Iraq?
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#6 Brendon

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Posted 11 May 2003 - 12:32 AM

I think you miss the point Tokyoman. Saudi Arabia is an ally. It was mainly Iraq who was supplying Al Quaeda. The links have been proven. The Saudis were happy to have American troops over to protect them from Iraq.
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#7 Charlie Vike

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Posted 27 May 2005 - 04:50 PM

Dork.
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#8 Brendon

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Posted 27 May 2005 - 05:14 PM

Nice of you to announce yourself Charlie. :D

Tsk, tsk. Going on "Search" to find my old threads.

That is what I call, "obsessive". :tralala:
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