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#41 KoWT

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Posted 02 February 2003 - 11:12 PM

One of Patrick Buchanan's more lucid moments:

http://www.wnd.com/n...RTICLE_ID=29357
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Posted 03 February 2003 - 05:28 PM

bump
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#43 gonzo

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Posted 03 February 2003 - 05:35 PM

To some of you armchair historians, hindsight is 20-20. think about that.:o

Pat Buchanan is a freak and a clown. Any rational person would see this.
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Posted 03 February 2003 - 05:44 PM

First the hindsight cliche, which was bad enough.
But then you actually went through the trouble to use the edit function so that you could add a lame ad hominem attack.

You gotta try harder, dude.
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#45 Gandu

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Posted 03 February 2003 - 11:38 PM

History has taught us that if we kill off our enemies, they do not grow up to become our enemies.

Hence once you kill off everyone, you are free as a bird.

Also you can keep birds for company.
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#46 ItalianBoy

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Posted 04 February 2003 - 12:07 AM

> These vast numbers are the
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Posted 04 February 2003 - 12:12 AM

"I think that only around 50% oppose war in any case"

Only 50%?!? That is half the population, you can't really say 'only'.
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Posted 04 February 2003 - 12:35 AM

> Only 50%?!? That is half the population, you can't really say 'only'.

The percentage is admittedly pretty higher than usual (e.g. NATO intervention in former Yugoslavia), but it
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#49 Saddam

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Posted 04 February 2003 - 12:39 AM

The percentage is admittedly pretty higher than usual (e.g. NATO intervention in former Yugoslavia), but it
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#50 Saddam

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Posted 04 February 2003 - 12:39 AM

laugh
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#51 ItalianBoy

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Posted 04 February 2003 - 12:47 AM

> Looks like the Leftists are not Catholics.

Oh testa di minchia, of course for Catholics I meant people who go to church regularly, pray, listen to what the pope says, read catholic oriented press, maybe even used to vote for Catholic parties, etc... otherwise it
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#52 Saddam

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Posted 04 February 2003 - 12:51 AM

Tu sei cazzo MacaroniBoy. Caccati in mano e prenditi a schiaffi cadavere !
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#53 KoWT

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Posted 09 February 2003 - 01:32 AM

Looks like Noam nailed a nerve with Italiaboy, eh?

I still find the notion that democracy is on the wane, and we are seeing the first moves in a lurch towards an authoritarian hegemony manned by the "men of best quality" that seeks to do little more than solidify whatever pervy aggenda (religion, greed, corporatism..etc) they're running's hold on power, to be particularily disturbing.

Why is our government so hell bent for leather on manouvering into a war that their own citizenry (not to mention the citizenry of our european allies) has shown little taste for?
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#54 KoWT

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Posted 09 February 2003 - 02:15 AM

I found ZNet post 9/11, while looking for fresh Chomsky.

I cruise through at least once a week, in my tireless (well marginally tireless anyhow) search for information.
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#55 ItalianBoy

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Posted 10 February 2003 - 12:24 AM

Sorry for replying so late but, being most people here American, I have problems with my time zone (e.g. I miss hot discussions when they are going on; when I come here again I find that the topic I was discussing is a lot of pages back; a bunch of new topics have been posted and the discussions are already over; it
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Posted 10 February 2003 - 06:53 PM

So when a democratically elected representative government is swayed (by the opinions and desires of a majority of it's citizenry) to resist a US sponsored invasion of Iraq, it is indicative of a flaw in their nation's execution of representative democracy?

I dunno if I can buy that...
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#57 Gandu

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Posted 10 February 2003 - 07:09 PM

Take out France and Germany, I think there is some funny business there. But show me one country that actually follows the wishes of the people who elected them by vote.

Usually the guy in charge transfers all those huge polluting multinations into their in laws names and invites the highest bidder to deposit the most into his swiss bank account to exploit his people.

Heck look at mushraff. The guy says he took over because of corruption in his country. A guy that makes less than $1000/month and he buys a house in DC? Where the hell did he get the money from?
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Posted 11 February 2003 - 07:00 PM

Many nations are paying little more than lip service to the principles behind the concepts of freedom and democracy; all the while jockeying for position amongst those trying to perpetuate the (perceived) global hegemony, just because they hope they'll get a spot in the catbird seats if they just play along.
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#59 uglybastard

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Posted 11 February 2003 - 07:08 PM

kowt said, 'Many nations are paying little more than lip service'

Would you include the US?
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#60 Gandu

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Posted 11 February 2003 - 07:10 PM

Well KoWT at least you can sit pretty in retirement, but the pigs are going to get slaughtered.

http://www.nytimes.c...ion/11KRUG.html

And though you don't hear much about it in the U.S. media, a lack of faith in Mr. Bush's staying power.

The deterioration in the long-run budget outlook is nothing short of catastrophic; at this point a fiscal train wreck appears inevitable once the baby boomers retire in large numbers.

Tough-guy rhetoric aside, this image seems to be based on the following policy
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