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Old 08-17-2008, 09:15 PM   #1
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Ukraine ready to split ?

Last night I made a call to little town in Ukraine not to faraway from E-40”Interstate” road.
The mood is grim and the aria (according to the people over there) is ready to receive Russian help and split from Kiev. They said that they do not like it one iota and that Kiev went too far by siding with Gruzia (Georgia) against Russia.
No links here just a little of the conversation and the mood in there. You ether take it or live it.
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Last night I made a call to little town in Ukraine not to faraway from E-40”Interstate” road.
The mood is grim and the aria (according to the people over there) is ready to receive Russian help and split from Kiev. They said that they do not like it one iota and that Kiev went too far by siding with Gruzia (Georgia) against Russia.
No links here just a little of the conversation and the mood in there. You ether take it or live it.
I believe that this is the mood in Ukraine, specially in the East and in Crimea, where most people are pro-Russia. But do you think they will take on arms and fight to get free from the central government?
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Russia should just help Crimea Split, and leave the rest to bite at each other and keep their economy in ruins...
It seems that most Ukrainians are some what mentally and morally retarded, so they are not very good as friends. Most will apply for welfare checks and just drain Russia instead of helping it...
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Russia should just help Crimea Split, and leave the rest to bite at each other and keep their economy in ruins...
It seems that most Ukrainians are some what mentally and morally retarded, so they are not very good as friends. Most will apply for welfare checks and just drain Russia instead of helping it...
did Republika Srbska split from Bosnia?
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Meanwhile, Seven Hills LLC, a Ukrainian-registered developer that serves as the Ukrainian arm of Israel’s Scorpio Real Estate, is working on “four major projects in progress with an estimated value well in excess of $1 billion,” said chief executive officer Arie Schwartz.
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did Republika Srbska split from Bosnia?
Bosnia is directly opressed by US/EU and don't have backing by Serbia proper quislings.

Ukarine people are opressed by US-paid traitors and Russia is near by, ready to defend it's people no mater in what country they are located as Medvedev promissed and did.

Besides, Crimea is traditionaly Russian no mater what the orange crap svckers try to do all this years.
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Bosnia is directly opressed by US/EU and don't have backing by Serbia proper quislings.

Ukarine people are opressed by US-paid traitors and Russia is near by, ready to defend it's people no mater in what country they are located as Medvedev promissed and did.

Besides, Crimea is traditionaly Russian no mater what the orange crap svckers try to do all this years.
My point was that spliting does not come so easilly.

Actually it will never come but it will cost millions of deaths, devastation, tragedy and weakening of both sides and more feasible to become banana republicks...

It could bring total hummiliation to the goverment of russia as well...


It will be only worse never better. and you will loose Ukraine forever... It will become your most passionate haters even more passionate then Poles.



so, who is going to gain from all that situation?

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I believe that this is the mood in Ukraine, specially in the East and in Crimea, where most people are pro-Russia. But do you think they will take on arms and fight to get free from the central government?

I do not know if they are ready.... but one think I knew and felt was a lot of passion in their voices.

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My point was that spliting does not come so easilly.

Actually it will never come but it will cost millions of deaths, devastation, tragedy and weakening of both sides and more feasible to become banana republicks...

It could bring total hummiliation to the goverment of russia as well...

It will be only worse never better. and you will loose Ukraine forever... It will become your most passionate haters even more passionate then Poles.

so, who is going to gain from all that situation?
Well, since the Ashkenazi Orangers already hate Russia and work for the NATO hate group, then the main consideration is the cost to Russia and the genuine people of Ukraine.
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Well, since the Ashkenazi Orangers already hate Russia and work for the NATO hate group, then the main consideration is the cost to Russia and the genuine people of Ukraine.
that is what I am saying... The cost can be HUGE and there might never be benefit...



Acctually only those ashkenazy, zionists anglosaxon imperialists or however else you call them will have gain and benefit... So, in a way you will be their collaborators... their prolonged hand... their servants in the whole devastation
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My point was that spliting does not come so easilly.

Actually it will never come but it will cost millions of deaths, devastation, tragedy and weakening of both sides and more feasible to become banana republicks...

It could bring total hummiliation to the goverment of russia as well...


It will be only worse never better. and you will loose Ukraine forever... It will become your most passionate haters even more passionate then Poles.



so, who is going to gain from all that situation?
No one is saying that will be easy,the pain and suffering are just what you pay for your independence.Do not forget that there are 17% of Russian in east Ukraine which are not pleased with Kiev's regime.Beside that part of the world is still looking for it's place.....more to come.....
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My point was that spliting does not come so easilly.

Actually it will never come but it will cost millions of deaths, devastation, tragedy and weakening of both sides and more feasible to become banana republicks...

It could bring total hummiliation to the goverment of russia as well...

It will be only worse never better. and you will loose Ukraine forever... It will become your most passionate haters even more passionate then Poles.

so, who is going to gain from all that situation?

Your points are well taken. On the other hand - Russia is looking at a SURVIVAL scenario. HATO will take control of Sevastopol naval base/Crimea in less than 10 years. HATO has made its intentions toward Russia crystal clear, refusing to negotiate over the missle shields to be put in Poland and Ukraine, surrounding Russia with military bases, black ops attacks on Russian civilians such as Beslan, the Moscow theater, bombing longtime Russian allies such as Serbia, etc. Russia can only back down so long and so much.

The Bear is Back and HATO is going to have to deal with it. Based on the `New Model' of Kosovo - it's all about secession and ETHNIC SELF DETERMINATION now. So Russia has every right to take eastern Ukraine back under its wing; if that's what Russian Ukrainians vote for.
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