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#21 shablon

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 06:54 PM

JewSA are terrorists by nature:

http://www.informati...rticle25087.htm
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#22 Horseman

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 07:00 PM

The problem with the Jews is that their religion allows no responsibility for individual actions.


Its very odd Shablon even though the group is outwardly Christian you still see a Jewish hand behind them...

How can it be humanly possible that the whole world is simple minded enough to allow Jewish infiltration in every aspect of their lives. If Jews are so powerful and we so stpuid then let them rule us because I certanily do not want a bunch mind numb bumbling drunk on the After-Life Promises running the world.

If Jews can penetrate virtually every organization it means everyone else of us is a complete idiot...
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#23 bruce

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 07:05 PM

So you approve of the murder of Peace Officers Bruce?

Now really did I say that?I think I said they was not the problem,,,,,They are just tools.
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Posted 30 March 2010 - 07:17 PM

Hutaree Raid: An extremely well-executed federal operation aimed at the threat represented by the revitalized militia & Oath Keepers.

As a powerful political counter-stroke it was masterful. You have to give them credit. Putting a provocateur into a group of not-very-well wrapped Millennialists (see Churchill, To Shake Their Guns in the Tyrants Face) and assisting them to:

a. build and distribute pipe bombs and

b. talk about plots to kill cops that involve killing innocents, family members, etc.,

was well thought out, perfectly targeted, craftily planned, brilliantly executed and impeccably timed.

I realized this when I was outside talking to the three cops who showed up at my door to collect the birdshit Easter card. To begin with, the phone rang. Would I please meet the officer outside? Sure.

So I walked out in my shirtsleeves, thinking I would simply hand the guy (remember, I had been told they would send one officer) the ziplock bag, fill out a report, and then could go turn in after a very exhausting day.

I wasn't even off the porch before I understood something very different was going on here. Three deputies, not one. Spread out, hands on weapons, bright light in my face, commanding me to come to them. It was so ludicrous I laughed and said, "What? You want me to put my hands in the air?"

They didn't but they weren't laughing either.

Look, I told them, I just called you guys because that's what the Coroner's Office told me to do. They were tense as hell. Two of them knew me from local Pinson events, political and otherwise. The other, the one with the least experience, was the most obviously nervous and he's the one who approached from the side always training the light in my eyes.

So, after I get them calmed down and explain what is going on, it becomes obvious that they are concerned that I am a maddog militiaman. The Hutaree business was fresh in their minds. "Christian militia." "Kill cops at the funeral."

They're "militia." I'm "militia." I actually think they expected me to defend the *******s. As we had some time before the fire department trucks got there (and then they decided they weren't equipped to handle the situation so they asked for HAZMAT backup), I started talking about the many death threats I have had over the years and about my belief that it is better to be despised by the despicable than admired by the admirable. We talked about death threats in 90s, and my ever expanding list of enemies. I told them about how the FBI had been letting certain neoNazi terrorists run free back then, and how we -- the constitutional militia -- embarrassed them finally into arresting the pukes. I told them how we worked with state and local law enforcement to prevent racist-terrorist initiated clouds of pink mist here and across the country.

They just kept coming back to the Hutaree.

And it wasn't, I sensed, merely because it had just happened. The details of the thing as reported in the media and passed along by "cop telegraph" -- based entirely on the word of a federal provacateur at this point -- had seized their imaginations. "Christian Militia." "Assassinating a police officer." "Mass killing of cops' families at a funeral." "At a FUNERAL."

"Militiaman" = "Cop killer" As obvious as two plus two.

For the Imperial Feds, this was a propaganda coup of the tenth order of magnitude.

For this wasn't really about the Hutaree. It was about the revitalized constitutional militia movement and Oath Keepers. It may not have started out to be, when they began their operation against the Hutaree back in 2008, but at some point along the line, I'll bet, somebody saw the opportunity and took it.

Based upon the nervousness, fear and hatred of the Feds for Oath Keepers (as evidenced by the number and frequency of their verbal attacks on it), we knew that at some point they were going to feel compelled to get serious about dealing with the threat OK posed to their strategic certainty. (That is, "if I issue this tyrannical order, will these people carry it out -- or turn on me?")

Gentlemen and ladies, you just witnessed the seriousness of their intent to discredit Oath Keepers. The Hutaree meme strikes at the seam between the military and police who are attracted by the Oath Keepers' simple message, and the armed citizenry who are their natural allies in supporting and defending the Constitution and in the maintenance of order in society as a whole.

The Hutaree, apparently useful idiots to a man, may indeed not be guilty of what they are charged. It does not matter. Even if all the charges are later expoosed to be the fevered imaginings of snitches and provocateurs (and I don't think they will be), the Feds have reaped an incalculable benefit from the exercise.

They have, in the minds of every cop in America, equated the word "militia" with the word "cop killer."

From now on, every cop will approach us with that in mind. Every conversation about militia will have to deal with the Hutaree first. The Feds have put us all on the ideological defensive. The fact that it enunciates a lie does not matter. People will "know" from now on that all militiamen and women are copkillers.

Brilliant. You must give them credit. It was brilliant.

More on this subject later.


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Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, veterans, Police Officers, and Fire Fighters who will fulfill the Oath we swore, with the support of like minded citizens who take an Oath to stand with us, to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God. Our Oath is to the Constitution.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

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In The News Sheriff Mack is featured in a major article in Mainstream News: 'Tea party' movement lights fuse for right. Mack is a prominant member of Oathkeepers.

"When Friends for Liberty held its first public event, Mrs. Stout listened as Richard Mack, a former Arizona sheriff, brought 1,400 people to their feet with a speech about confronting a despotic federal government."

Oath Keepers, which has been recruiting at Tea Party events around the country and forging informal ties with militia groups, has an enthusiastic following in Friends for Liberty. http://www.nytimes.c...16teaparty.html

http://www.sheriffmack.com/
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#25 Digilinus

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 07:26 PM

Thx Bruce.
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#26 Mediatrix

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 07:45 PM

**** OMG THIS IS SICK!!! CNN DOUCHE BAG CALLS OATHKEEPERS "HATRIOTS" *****

Another new Hatriot group is the Oath Keepers, who claim to have some 3,000 dues-paying members, including current and former law enforcement officers, members of the military, and others who meet to reaffirm their oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. "The whole point of the Oath Keepers is to stop a dictatorship from ever happening here," its founder, Stewart Rhodes, told the Las Vegas Review-Journal.


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#27 Marshal

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 07:46 PM

That was great. Thanks for that, Dolphin.

Every militia-man needs to know who their chain-of-command is.. Some of my favorite Russian films about WW2 had to do with Russian militia who were helping the regular army in a good way.

It sounds like the militia-men (from the article) had different ideas.. They think that their chain-of-command goes directly to the Constitution, and that maybe they can come up with their own ideas for how to behave in military times.

Unfortunately, that behavior will not help the country during a disaster. There would be too much chaos, and what would happen is different militias will compete over land and resources instead of acting strategically to cripple the enemy.

When your government asks you to destroy your own factories and farms, and you think that the whole world has come to tyranny.. Guess what.. You do as your government says. Those factories and farms if left intact would go to the enemy and would help them to survive in your lands.

So, it is not always wise to disagree with your governments. If you feel as you're a part of your government, then there's a shared responsibility.. When one person is hurt, everybody is, and everybody is needed to help find a solution.

Often times however, when a citizen is hurt, his government comes to his rescue, but when his government is hurt, the citizen opens another beer and watches the football match.
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#28 Mediatrix

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 07:48 PM

Marshal, are you for real?
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#29 Marshal

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 08:00 PM

Marshal, are you for real?


Make sure that you understand my post properly before asking me this question.
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#30 Mediatrix

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 08:01 PM

Oh I get it. You're being sarcastic.
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#31 zenas

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 08:04 PM

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I was just going to ask a similar question: Where is this guy marshal coming from?

They think that their chain-of-command goes directly to the Constitution,


Virtually all public servants take an oath to obey, support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Military personnel do not have to obey unlawful commands, in fact, they are obligated - it is their duty - to not obey unlawful unconstitutional orders.
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#32 Mediatrix

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 08:52 PM

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I was just going to ask a similar question: Where is this guy marshal coming from?



Virtually all public servants take an oath to obey, support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Military personnel do not have to obey unlawful commands, in fact, they are obligated - it is their duty - to not obey unlawful unconstitutional orders.


This is a thoughtful little article on the subject:

I Pledge Allegiance to the Constitution
I Pledge Allegiance to the CONSTITUTION of the United States
And to the Republic Which It Created;
One Nation, Under God,
Divisible If Need Be,
With Liberty And Justice For All

That's how Francis Bellamy, the author of the Pledge of Allegiance, would have phrased it if he hadn't been a socialist but a true patriot. It would have served our school children and public officials every day far better by reminding them what their true allegiance must go to. Substance over symbol!

The way things stand, a public official's oath of office is a one-time shot in the dark, as soon forgotten (to most) as it is made. If every public occasion started out with this pledge instead of the one to the flag, we may live in a better, freer country today.


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#33 zenas

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 09:44 PM

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I would go further and state that the military and other government hacks should be required to give their alliance to the Constitution and to The People of the United States.

We the People are the ones who formed this Union, not the government types. The government is the creation of the People, and the People are the Rulers, [at least that was the original intention] not the created government. The government has turned things upside down.

That goes along with the fact that we now have the crazies calling us normal people the crazies and kooks, when in fact it is they who are the psychopaths, whores for Israel, liars, criminals, thieves, traitors, tyrants and basically worthless scum.
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#34 Marshal

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 04:41 AM

I do understand what your points are..... You believe in a higher purpose... In a concept that is above the people who are ever in authority.

That's fine..... you do it because it protects you from what happens *if* those people become bad.

But I'm saying, that there needs to be cooperation, and in a disaster or wartime, the militia-men need to follow the chain-of-command of the government, even if it seems like that command is wrong.

I'm only saying that *if* an outside enemy is attacking, or there's some outside disaster.

If the disaster is on the inside and there's civil war, then do whatever you want.

Think of this in simple terms... If there's a bank robbery and the robber runs outside, and you are carrying a gun, and there's 1 cop and he says to shoot out the tires in an old lady's car and to shoot at her engine of her car.. You *must* do what he tells you. That car could be used as a getaway vehicle by the robber.

But unless you have more information for the cop, if you don't follow his order, then my theory is it creates a situation like militias not following orders.

But I like this idea about the higher power somehow being written on paper hundreds of years ago.
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