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#21 Sammy

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 05:50 AM

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..... were all to Israelites scattered throughout the Roman Empire.

Not to black Africa, not to Asian China, but to the Adamic Race.

Paul's missionary journey was NOT to Israelites scattered throughout the Roman Empire only.

Paul's missionary journeys was to people not of Abraham's seed.

Twist the scriptures to your hearts desire, it will remain true that Christ Jesus went to the cross for ALL people of all colors.

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 10:04 PM

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"The Corinthians were Dorian Greeks. The Dorians were a tribe said to have invaded Greece, by all ancient accounts, a short time after the Trojan wars. The Greeks who inhabited all of the Peloponnese before the Dorian invasion, as well as areas of the mainland, were called everywhere
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Posted 02 March 2011 - 10:19 PM

Strong's 1756
Original Word: דֹּאר
Transliteration: Dor or Dor
Phonetic Spelling: (dore)
Short Definition: Dor

A city in Palestine

-Dor--Ruler of the Seas (2nd Edition, Jerusalem, 2000) (Hebrew and English).
-"Dor," in Stern, E. (ed.), The New Encyclopedia of Archaological Excavations in the Holy Land (1993), pp. 357-368.

-"New Evidence from Dor for the First Appearance of the Phoenicians Along the Northern Coast of Israel," Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research 279 (1990): 27-34.
-"Phoenicians Sikils and Israelites in the Light of Recent Excavations at Dor," in Lipinski, E. (ed.), Studia Phoenicia XI: Phoenicia and the Bible (Leuven, 1991), pp. 85-94.

-"A Group of Stamped Hellenistic Storage Jar Handles from Dor," IEJ 35 (1985): 135-182.

-The Ancient Harbor and Anchorage at Dor, Israel: Results of the Underwater Surveys 1976-1991, BAR International Series (Oxford, 1996).
-"Lower Dor, 1991-1992." IEJ 44: 250-53.
-"Stone Anchors from Byzantine Contexts in Dor Harbour." IJNA 23: 1-12.
-The Ancient Harbour and Anchorage at Dor, Israel. Results of the Underwater Surveys, 1976-1991 (BAR International Series S 626). Oxford.

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#24 Sammy

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 10:27 PM

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"The Corinthians were Dorian Greeks. The Dorians were a tribe said to have invaded Greece, by all ancient accounts, a short time after the Trojan wars. The Greeks who inhabited all of the Peloponnese before the Dorian invasion, as well as areas of the mainland, were called everywhere
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Posted 02 March 2011 - 10:28 PM

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As any objective observer can see, from the two posts above and by reviewing the information in the link provided, (and other historical evidence) there is every reason to believe that the Greeks were actually Israelites for Dor, in Palestine. (not to be confused with the jews).

Since the Greek were Israelites, and Corinth is in Greece, Paul journeyed to and wrote at least two letters to the dispersed Israelites located in Greece at the time of Paul.

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 12:27 AM

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Most honest secular historians admit there is uncertainty surrounding the origins of the Dorians. Therefor, William Finck's supposition as stated above and referencee by the link, could very well be where the Dorians originated - Dor in Palestine and were thus Israelites.

The Dorian Invasion

There is still some uncertainty as to the origins of the Dorians. Though they are generally believed to have originated from Epiros or Northern Macedonia, there are some historians who believed that they only arrived from there as they had previously been forced out of Doris in central Greece by the Mycenaeans.

The Dorian Invasion

Dorian Invasion

Definition: In about 1100 B.C., according to the ancient Greeks, a group of men from the North, who spoke Greek, invaded the Peloponnese. There could have been such an invasion, in which case it might explain the loss of the Mycenaean civilization, but we just don't have the evidence. The end of Mycenaean civilization led to a Dark Age about which we know very little except from archaeology. It was the period in which the harder and cheaper metal iron replaced bronze as a material for weapons and farm implements.

http://ancienthistor...ianInvasion.htm

Keep in mind that it was the Israelite Phoenicians that traveled to distant lands and traded for iron ore. For example, findings in Northern Michigan attest to early Hebrew (Israelite) traders, and the name Brazil or BRZL in Hebrew means ore and Brazil has one of the largest deposits of iron ore in the world, even to this day. Thos facts help explain this: "It was the period in which the harder and cheaper metal iron replaced bronze as a material for weapons and farm implements." But I digress.
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Posted 03 March 2011 - 12:40 AM

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The early Dorians were called Danaans, quite likely derived from Dan, or the Tribe of Dan. It was Dan who were known for their sailing expertise:

Danaans (Dănăoi), general name for the Greek nation in Homer and later poets; more particularly, a Peloponnesian Greek people inhabiting the region of Argos in early times; thus the name Danaans sometimes signifies Argives. For their supposed origin see DANAUS.

Read more: http://www.answers.c...1#ixzz1FYiLQK2x

Type in Danaans in jewpedia and there they completely ignore the topic, and instead provide Homer's name for the Danaans, Achaeans. This censorship is how the Israelites have been kept from knowing their true origins. The so-called jews of today, for which shambo has such an affinity for, don't want the rest of us to know the real history of the Israelites, as the truth exposes their fraud of perverting history for their own perfidious purposes.
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#28 Ivan88

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 02:11 AM

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Jonathan... sent letters also to the Lacedemonians.
And this is the copy of the letters which Jonathan wrote to the Lacedemonians:
Jonathan the high priest, and the elders of the nation, and the priests, and the other of the Jews, unto the Lacedemonians their brethren send greeting:
There were letters sent in times past unto Onias the high priest from Darius, who reigned then among you, to signify that ye are our brethren, as the copy here underwritten doth specify.
At which time Onias entreated the ambassador that was sent honourably, and received the letters, wherein declaration was made of the league and friendship.
Therefore we also, albeit we need none of these things, that we have the holy books of scripture in our hands to comfort us,
Have nevertheless attempted to send unto you for the renewing of brotherhood and friendship, lest we should become strangers unto you altogether: for there is a long time passed since ye sent unto us.

We therefore at all times without ceasing, both in our feasts, and other convenient days, do remember you in the sacrifices which we offer, and in our prayers, as reason is, and as it becometh us to think upon our brethren:
And we are right glad of your honour.
... we chose Numenius the son of Antiochus, and Antipater he son of Jason, and sent them unto the Romans, to renew the amity that we had with them, and the former league.
We commanded them also to go unto you, and to salute and to deliver you our letters concerning the renewing of our brotherhood.

Wherefore now ye shall do well to give us an answer thereto.
And this is the copy of the letters which Oniares sent.
Areus king of the Lacedemonians to Onias the high priest, greeting:
It is found in writing, that the Lacedemonians and Jews are brethren, and that they are of the stock of Abraham:
Now therefore, since this is come to our knowledge, ye shall do well to write unto us of your prosperity.
We do write back again to you, that your cattle and goods are our's, and our's are your's We do command therefore our ambassadors to make report unto you on this wise.

[1 Machabees 12:1-23]
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#29 Ivan88

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 02:28 AM


Areus king of the Spartans to Onias the high priest of Judea, greeting:
It is found in writing, that the Spartans and Jews are brethren, and that they are of the stock of Abraham:
Now therefore, since this is come to our knowledge, ye shall do well to write unto us of your prosperity.
We do write back again to you, that your cattle and goods are our's, and our's are your's We do command therefore our ambassadors to make report unto you on this wise.

[1 Machabees 12:1-23]


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Posted 03 March 2011 - 03:07 AM

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There are those ignorant of history, and of Scripture, who insist that the Corinthians were not Israelites. If they would simply read their Bibles, they would learn of their error.

1 Corinthians 10:1


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Posted 03 March 2011 - 03:30 AM

Zenas, do you think "The Book of Tephi, Queen of Tara and Gibraltar" is based on truth ?
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Posted 03 March 2011 - 07:23 AM

Type in Danaans in jewpedia and there they completely ignore the topic, and instead provide Homer's name for the Danaans, Achaeans. This censorship is how the Israelites have been kept from knowing their true origins. The so-called jews of today don't want the rest of us to know the real history of the Israelites, as the truth exposes their fraud of perverting history for their own perfidious purposes.

There's a good reason for that, it because THAT'S WHO THEY ARE/WERE.


What do you mean by, "so-called Jews"?

p.s. Can't find "jewpedia", got a link?
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Posted 03 March 2011 - 07:30 AM

Zenas, do you think "The Book of Tephi, Queen of Tara and Gibraltar" is based on truth ?

JAH?
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Posted 03 March 2011 - 10:28 AM

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 08:05 PM

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#36 Ivan88

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 01:49 AM

Areus king of the Spartans to Onias the high priest of Judea, greeting:

It is found in writing, that the Spartans and Jews are brethren, and that they are of the stock of Abraham:
Now therefore, since this is come to our knowledge, ye shall do well to write unto us of your prosperity.
We do write back again to you, that your cattle and goods are our's, and our's are your's We do command therefore our ambassadors to make report unto you on this wise.
[1 Machabees 12:1-23]

Sammy is so prejudiced in favor of the "not my sheep" people and so prejudiced against the Syro-Phonecian,
European, Christian Israel people that he can't accept Bible Testimony that a large portion of the Acheans/Danaan are of the same stock.

BTW, Achean in Aramaic/Hebrew means brothers.
So if the Spartans were of Judah.....part of Judah left with the other 10 tribes, then certainly much of the rest of Greece were of Israelite stock too.
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 01:59 AM

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It is found in writing, that the Spartans and Jews (should be Judaeans) are brethren, and that they are of the stock of Abraham:


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Posted 04 March 2011 - 02:58 AM

"It is found in writing, that the Spartans and Judaeans are brethren, and that they are of the stock of Abraham:"

Will Sammy like it?
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Posted 05 March 2011 - 06:53 AM

Areus king of the Spartans to Onias the high priest of Judea, greeting:

It is found in writing, that the Spartans and Jews are brethren, and that they are of the stock of Abraham:
Now therefore, since this is come to our knowledge, ye shall do well to write unto us of your prosperity.
We do write back again to you, that your cattle and goods are our's, and our's are your's We do command therefore our ambassadors to make report unto you on this wise.
[1 Machabees 12:1-23]

So was Ishmael but he was not of the children of Israel.

The promise came through Isaac.

Rom 9:7 nor because they are Abraham's seed are all children, but "In Isaac a Seed shall be called to you." Gen. 21:12


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Posted 06 March 2011 - 05:44 AM

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In another thread here, shambo wants others to believe that the jews were not responsible for the murder of Christ. That because the actually crucifixion was carried out by Roman soldiers, that in some way exonerates the jews desspite their have called down His blood upon their heads and the heads of their children.

In this passage in John 8 we have Christ calling the Edomite jews, from the seed of Cain and Esau, murderers:

44Ye are of the devil, as [your] father, and ye desire to do the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has not stood in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks falsehood, he speaks of what is his own; for he is a liar and its father:

Here in Matthew 23: 35: we have Christ again telling us of the murders of this race:

“That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.”

There are so many deaths this race of jews are responsible for, that Jesus Christ can't name them all: He has to refer to their deaths as "from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias," from Abel to Zacharias, or from A-Z. And he says that those very jews standing before Him on that day slew those righteous men, and that their righteous blood would come upon them at judgment day.

Jews have been responsible for the death of hundreds of millions of innocent people all down through the ages.

Just in the 20th century we have millions of people who died at the hands of jews we could document. We could start at WWI and show how Germany offered Britain peace, which was rejected when the German jews promised the Brits they could get the Americans to fight on their side and win. Which is what they did by blackmailing Woodrow Wilson. Google Ben Freedman (a jew) and his speech to get the details.

WE could go from there to the Bolsheviks murdering the Christian Tsar Nicolas and his family and the subsequent death of millions of white Russians under the Bolshevik reign, including the jew Stalin.

We could jump to the jew Rosenvelt pushing Japan into attacking the US. And the jew Eisenhower responsible for the death of thousands of German POWs under his watch after WWII.

We have jew fingerprints all over 9/11 and the subsequent wars in the Middle East and Afghanistan and now they want to attack Iran, who has not conducted an act of aggression against its neighbors in nearly a 1000 years.

The list is virtually endless.

Yes, indeed "Ye are of the devil, as [your] father, and [i]ye desire to do the lusts of your father..."

Edited by zenas, 06 March 2011 - 06:00 AM.

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