What it means to those that wants the hijab
Posted 02 January 2004 - 02:06 AM
I say the only ones against the hijab are pervert men or misguided women
Posted 02 January 2004 - 02:14 AM
No, it's not Obmar.
It's rather back to the square one to the point, that Islam and its very foundation and teachings are incompetible with the culture of the countries of Christian background. These countries were never supposed to bend in order to accomodate the teachings of Islam.
People of Islamic background should either stay home or submit under the rules and regulations of their hosts. Yes, Islam dictates - go and bring the word of submissivness to Allah to the lands of al-darb, but here comes the Christian faith (or leftovers of it,) that reminds you why the crusaders were coming to Jerusalem at the first place.
Hijab is NOT - I repeat NOT a symbol of women's freedom and modesty, which is one of the biggest lies invented by Islam. It COULD of have been such symbol, if women in muslim world were to choose to wear it freely. But they were beaten up, tortured and raped through the centuries, until it became their obvious "free" choice for safety.
Obmar, middle-eastern women (and indian, black and so forth) are charged sexually more then Western women ever will be. They can be far more wilful and capricious as well, because of the sexual power they posess. That's why Islam came as a punishment on their heads, speaking in familiar theological terms to you. If you rase young arab (or any islamic girls for this matter) in the environment, where there are no muslim men, they will never choose to wear hijab out of "free will." Out of natural choice, they would want to be as pretty and fit for getting man's attention as any western girls and then some more. It's the hateful looks of muslim men that reminds them that wearing hijab must be their "natural" choice. And wearing of veil by a married or engaged women, who has happily chosen herself a partner for life, in that part of the world would have been a totally different matter of wisdom. Rarely, however, women in Islam were choosing partners out of their own will - and Mohammed himself made sure to set such trend.
Therefore, one of the cornerstones -(i.e. the established set of rules in relations between man and women) of Islam is clearly incompetible with the evolution of the Western Europe. Therefore France, as European nation has the right to identify this issue and to say - yes, we are democratic enough to accept the immigration from muslim countries, but we have to stand for our own values that were developed by our nation, by our believes. We are not America, that claims to incorporate it all, but distinctively French nation, that will stand up for its personal believes, whatever they might be.
Posted 02 January 2004 - 02:17 AM
>>It's rather back to the square one to the point, that Islam and its very foundation and teachings is incompetible with the culture of the countries of Christian background. <<
Posted 02 January 2004 - 02:19 AM
Posted 02 January 2004 - 02:22 AM
Posted 02 January 2004 - 02:32 AM
and do you think the male management you entrust to sack people do not have the same urges ?
Sicko u jerk, I posted what you quoted, not Obmar.
So who do you think instigated equal opportunity bullshit the way it is in western society today and the way it has screwed up what was a developing respectable society gadfly ?
Posted 02 January 2004 - 02:42 AM
Obmar, science would clearly not support such claim - there are leftovers of cultures found, who's religions are much older then Islam. Judaism and Christianity for one.
What I can imagine, though, is that people who initiated Islam (arabs?) could of have been earlier a part of a bigger ethnic goup. They could of have been connected by bloodties to those nations that they went and conquered later on.
My another speculation would have been that earlier in time much bigger ethnic group as a whole, used to belong to another spiritual teachings, or religion.
Posted 02 January 2004 - 02:45 AM
Posted 02 January 2004 - 02:48 AM
And no, sexual urges cannot be controlled by anyone other than the person experiencing the sexual urges realising what they are doing, throughout history sexual urges have been responsible for many wars and deaths. If you think a few rules and management that can be trusted not to be suffering from the same dilema will solve it, you are mistaken.
We are only humans, accepting that, and following what god has ordained is the only answer
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