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Odessa: may 2nd; Genocide to idiots, a per se massacre to another

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#1 bishadi

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 09:36 PM

Well let's get into the Odessa issue of May 2.

There are a couple version.

You help:

http://www.usnews.co...in-eastern-city

 

In Donetsk, a major city 120 kilometers (75 miles) south of Slovyansk, the airport was closed during the day to international flights following a government order but reopened later.

In the afternoon, about 30 pro-Russia militants armed with automatic rifles and grenade launchers surrounded an Interior Ministry base in Donetsk, demanding that the troops inside not join any government operations against pro-Russia forces. While it was unclear whether they would attack, besieging the base was an uptick in their offensive.

In Odessa, Kiev authorities announced Tuesday they were firing the acting governor and replacing him with a member of parliament, Ihor Palytsya. Odessa's police chief was also fired over the weekend.

Concern that Odessa could be the next region to fall grew after 46 people died Friday, many in a building fire, after a pro-Ukraine march in Odessa turned into a melee of fighting. Two days later, 67 people detained in the rioting were released by police under pressure from an angry crowd.

Opposing sides of the Ukraine conflict have traded bitter recriminations over the Odessa deaths. As residents gathered on Tuesday to lay flowers near the scorched building, they remained confused about exactly what caused the fire and were suspicious of the police forces who did not try to stop the bloodshed, for whatever reason.

"I saw how the police were on the side of the pro-Russians they broke rank when the Russians attacked and closed ranks when they stepped back," said 46-year-old Vitaly Khadyko.

The central government attempted to boost confidence by sending in an elite national guard unit, which could be seen patrolling the streets of Odessa


Were the 67 detained, the locals?

It appears as if the locals were trying to stop the people inside from siding with a Ukraine government (ie... western)

It appears that the people that were being accused, the locals, would not allow it and a fire broke out.

So the question: were the locals who burned down the building and the people inside were outside forces, or it was it the locals inside and the foreign folk are who burned it down?

If the foreigners were who burned down the building, then who protested to release them?

Edited by bishadi, 21 May 2014 - 09:38 PM.

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#2 bishadi

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 09:40 PM

ps...... someone teach people what the word 'genocide' means before slinging it around.



I know there is a language difference between Russia and the English but the irresponsible use of the word, is how these wars and divides not only get started, but continue.
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Posted 21 May 2014 - 09:55 PM

UN has refused from the international investigation.

 

That means - "The Brigade of 2nd of May" will continue to punish the murders. They already found two nazi and executed them but they declared they have nothing to do with the suicide one young bitch (Molotov cocktail cooker) who jumped out from the 9-store building. They hope that she had been conscience-stricken. Her name is known but will be not announced cause she wasn't 18 y.o.

 

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It is a Civil War.

 

They murdered in the building their coeval, young communist Vadim Papura

 

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#4 USC

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 10:32 PM

This is how "Brigade of 2nd of May" works - they put video of murders in youtube (they remove fast) or rutube and privately collect information.... then they search for the animals.

 

The next their victim will be that Neanderthal animal from Poltava (he was idenified):

 


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#5 Nemesis

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 11:02 PM

I am afraid bishadi that Odessa and Mariupol do qualify under the proper definition of Genocide:

 

 

gen·o·cide
ˈjenəˌsīd/
noun
 
  1. the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

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#6 bishadi

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 03:09 PM

Being that it was a non religion building of centralize purpose representing a colective, versus an 'ethnic or national' identity as the purpose of the massacre then it is an embellishment, to use the term genocide for that event.

Heck in America, the kids shooting up schools are killing children and in numbers; are they all genocide?

I asked specific questions in my thread.

Are you afraid to address the dialogue or that you want to have 1 up on me by holding your ground to your peers?


You and I have danced many a time on principle.

Is it best to be honest, with ourselves and each other, or to hold the scepter and act like someone special?

Be fair as I try to be with every piece of my fiber, every moment I am awake.

Edited by bishadi, 22 May 2014 - 03:13 PM.

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#7 bishadi

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 03:18 PM

"ps...... someone teach people what the word 'genocide' means before slinging it around.



I know there is a language difference between Russia and the English but the irresponsible use of the word, is how these wars and divides not only get started, but continue."



I wrote that to be both, direct and empathetic. To find common ground in terminology and valuation is how to address issues.

I be American and the assumption is, Pravda has Russian folk.

Step 1: Human Beings, agreed?
Step 2: "WE" are capable, equally........... Agreed?

Who wants to work on 3
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#8 wirehaired

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 06:32 PM

This is how "Brigade of 2nd of May" works - they put video of murders in youtube (they remove fast) or rutube and privately collect information.... then they search for the animals.

 

The next their victim will be that Neanderthal animal from Poltava (he was idenified):

 

I hope that piece of Fascist excrement is a dead man walking.


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#9 Nemesis

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 07:58 PM

"ps...... someone teach people what the word 'genocide' means before slinging it around.



I know there is a language difference between Russia and the English but the irresponsible use of the word, is how these wars and divides not only get started, but continue."



I wrote that to be both, direct and empathetic. To find common ground in terminology and valuation is how to address issues.

I be American and the assumption is, Pravda has Russian folk.

Step 1: Human Beings, agreed?
Step 2: "WE" are capable, equally........... Agreed?

Who wants to work on 3

It's patently obvious you DO NOT KNOW NOR DO YOU CARE TO UNDERSTAND the definition of Genocide, neither do you care to inform yourself of the FACTS which are that those people in Odessa and Mariupol were murdered MERELY BECAUSE THEY ARE RUSSIANS, the native population of the land and the ameriKKKan shit supporting fascist junta want to get rid of them.

 

End of discussion, you are only interested in wasting everyone's time and patience.


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#10 mataj

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 08:14 PM

I hope that piece of Fascist excrement is a dead man walking.

The best thing to do is to catch him, put him on trial, and lock him up for at least 25 years. Sooner or later he'll tell who hired or manipulated him.

 

The second best is polonium therapy.


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#11 bishadi

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 08:18 PM

It's patently obvious you DO NOT KNOW NOR DO YOU CARE TO UNDERSTAND the definition of Genocide, neither do you care

I care more about it than you. You're focused on me and could care less about the issue.

you're kind of weird ..... You shared no idea of the 39' genocide but consider 46 people, which you have no idea who they are, as killed in the fire, apparently started by Russians, that Russians arrested but the Russians protested to get the Russians out of jail for murdering the people that you claim are Russian.

Who was in the building?

Who started the fire?

Who was arrested?

Who protested to get them arrested folk released?




to inform yourself of the FACTS which are that those people in Odessa and Mariupol were murdered MERELY BECAUSE THEY ARE RUSSIANS,

So far, I find that Russians are killing Russians.

You can correct me if you like but it was weird to read that the Russians protested to get the Russians released, for what you call a 'genocide' of Russians, by them Russians.






the native population of the land and the ameriKKKan shit supporting fascist junta want to get rid of them.


So the natives are the folk that murdered the Russians. I thought the whole place was Russian natives.

Since when did Russians not be Russians on Russian native soil?

End of discussion, you are only interested in wasting everyone's time and patience.


okkk

Can I asked if you are just native or just Russian as I didn't know Russians divided up like that until you?

And I am sorry, but if 'Red Dawn' came to America, kind of like an invasion upon this native land, I don't think the wolverine would be arrested either, for going loco.
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Posted 23 May 2014 - 07:35 AM

Ditto what I said before.  You certainly have not bothered with getting the right information nor even comprehending what I wrote.


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#13 bishadi

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 01:30 PM

What was your point;  to trust KKK over RuSSia? 


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