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#21 Zharkov

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 02:18 AM

Power cannot be exercised in a vacuum - shadow government needs followers willing to act for it, and the covert action section of the CIA was willing to remove Kennedy at President Johnson's convenience. Followers need a reason to act, a grudge, a benefit, or something they value in exchange for carrying out orders. Johnson wanted to be president but he never believed he could be elected on his own merit, so he was going to benefit from Kennedy's removal.

 

Oswald worked for the Office of Naval Intelligence and then the CIA. He was part of the intel community which set him up to be the patsy for the assassination. Oswald serves as a warning to government employees generally that whatever value they think they have to their superiors, they are always expendable.

 

Jackie Kennedy was part of the "Secret World", as all presidential wives eventually are, and she realized that she and her children were in danger, that the people who killed her husband may not stop with him, so she fled to Greece. And of course, her son was killed in a plane crash, a classic CIA method of ridding themselves of potential adversaries. Her daughter is ambassador to Japan, currently exposed to high radiation levels from Fukushima, and likely to also have a shortened lifespan. One would think the Kennedy instinct for self-preservation would have influenced her to decline the appointment.


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#22 Alek

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 02:38 AM



You reflect the US society, but don't understand it.... CIA ... what tha f..ck are you talking about, you are again attacking the official offices of the - so hated by you - the US gov't - but ommit anything else....


Tell me were the bottom begins - not this pop culture shyt....

PS ''Jackie'' - well known here GOD VAS follower freak told some year ago - as a part Greek - that Onasis went into that rel-ship because of pereversion, to humiliate the dead opponent, of ? of ? of ? of ? of ? .....
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Posted 11 July 2014 - 02:49 AM



Tell me Zharkov what period of the US ''trends'' (fe the 40'es, the 30'es aso....) you reacall as your favourable....
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Posted 11 July 2014 - 02:37 PM

Germany Demands US Honesty on Spying After Expelling Diplomat

Germany offered a fresh start in ties with the U.S. after asking the top American intelligence officer in Berlin to leave in response to two spying cases.

 

(OK, this answers the question of how many times you can fool Germans.  Answer:  More than 3 times before they get suspicious!)

The expulsion, described as “an extraordinary event” by a German Foreign Ministry spokesman, reflects Chancellor Angela Merkel’s frustration about U.S. spying on one of its most important allies and the political risk of growing mistrust of American intentions among the German public.

President Barack Obama’s administration signaled recognition of Germany’s value as a partner while sidestepping specifics of espionage allegations that led to the expulsion of the top American intelligence officer in Berlin yesterday.

 

(A partner whose value derives from the inventive genius of the German people.   Obama values Kenya far more.)

“We need and expect a partnership based on trust,” German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier told reporters in Berlin today. “We would like to reinvigorate our partnership and friendship on the basis of honesty.”

 

("You can't always get what you want" - Rolling Stones.  What evidence does Germany have of Obama's honesty?   His lies about Benghazi?)

Steinmeier said he’ll convey that message to Secretary of State John Kerry when they meet this weekend in Vienna for talks on curbing Iran’s nuclear ambitions. Merkel and Obama have no immediate plans for a phone call, Steffen Seibert, Merkel’s press secretary, told reporters in Berlin.   (Yes, that phone still isn't very secure, is it?)

Germany’s action marked the lowest point in relations with the U.S. since former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden revealed extensive files on surveillance activities in the U.S. and abroad. Among the disclosures was the alleged hacking of Merkel’s mobile phone.

In January, Obama tried to address concerns on both sides of the Atlantic by directing U.S. spy agencies to stop monitoring friendly international leaders, in part to placate German anger over the monitoring of Merkel’s phone calls. Obama also called for extending privacy protections to foreigners whose communications are vacuumed up by NSA surveillance.

German officials had asked for their citizens to get the same privacy protections Americans do.
(Be assured that there is no chance of that happening.   Listen carefully...You are GERMANS, not Americans!)

 

“We’re in touch because we recognize the value and the strong partnership that exists between the United States and Germany,” White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters yesterday.   (Translation:  White House Staff likes new Mercedes-Benz cars.)

One joint project at risk is U.S.-European talks on creating the world’s biggest free-trade area. Merkel and Obama back the effort, which faces public resistance across the 28- nation European Union. The proposed accord is known as the Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership.   (Or as Americans call it, "The National Suicide Pact")

The rift over spying is “a bad sign for the TTIP negotiations,” said Annette Heuser, executive director of the Bertelsmann Foundation in Washington, a nonprofit group that promotes cooperation. While the spying incident probably won’t derail the talks, it will probably slow them down, she said.   (Let's hope it fails.   Everyone benefits when governments mind their own business.)

Lawmakers and officials in Merkel’s governing coalition of Germany’s two biggest parties have urged Obama’s administration for months to come clean on surveillance of Germans and make a no-spying pledge that the U.S. has made clear it won’t provide.   (Can Ms. Merkel guess why the Obama regime won't promise to stop spying?)

Pressure for Merkel to act grew as German politicians demanded signals of U.S. cooperation in clearing up the cases. One involves an alleged American double agent in Germany’s foreign-intelligence service, known as BND. The other suspect worked at the Defense Ministry, according to Spiegel Online.

“The U.S. still hasn’t grasped what a burden this case is for the German-American relationship,” Wolfgang Bosbach, a senior lawmaker in Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union, said yesterday. “Germany cannot tolerate espionage activity on its soil.”   (Wake up!   Germany is already tolerating US spying, and that's why the US government continues to spy!)

http://www.newsmaxwo...7/11/id/582058/

 

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If Germany can be fooled so many times by the same regime, it makes you wonder how many times another Hitler could be elected chancellor of Germany.   Perhaps there are 3 more Hitlers in Germany's future?   Maybe more?   

 

How many times does Germany need to be hit on the head before they conclude that it will happen again?

 

The only way to reduce spying is to arrest the spies.  

And then arrest their associates and their superiors, and put them in prison.


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Posted 11 July 2014 - 03:19 PM



Three more??? Do you suggest I have a company somewhere? :) :)


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#26 Zharkov

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 12:44 AM

The U.S. Response To German Outrage:

 

"I'm not uncomfortable with spying," Hayden said. "I'm not apologetic about spying against Germany, if that's going on, given the importance of Germany to the world and certainly to Europe. But I really am against spying badly, and when you spy badly you embarrass not only yourself, but we embarrass a friend.

http://www.newsmax.c...7/11/id/582101/


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#27 Zharkov

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 12:51 AM

Gen. Hayden: US Will Determine If German Spying Worth Political Cost

It's already been determined that spying against Germany is worth the trouble.   They had to make that determination before they did it.

 

The covert branch must assume their agent will be caught and determine the worst case scenario if that happens.

The bottom line:   spying will continue but in less detectable ways.


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 03:39 PM

Germany demands public promise from US to end spying

Scheduled talks with John "Swiftboat" Kerry over Ukraine and Iran to be overshadowed by concerns over recent espionage allegations

Germany is determined to extract a public commitment from the US over future spying activity during talks with John Kerry this weekend, despite a White House preference to try to mend their battered diplomatic relationship behind closed doors.

Secretary of state Kerry is due to meet his counterpart Frank-Walter Steinmeier in Vienna for Iranian nuclear talks, but senior German diplomats say that securing a satisfactory response to recent espionage allegations will be their top priority.

"Everything is overshadowed by this," one high-ranking German official told the Guardian on Friday. "This will be the lead item."

During its first substantive comments on the allegations earlier in the day, the White House appeared to accuse German officials of feigning naivety over the affair and questioned why they could not make their complaints in private.

"Countries with sophisticated intelligence agencies like both the United States and Germany understand what intelligence activities and relationships entail," said Obama's spokesman Josh Earnest. "When concerns arise, there are benefits to resolving those differences in private secure channels".

But German officials believe that a domestic political audience already rocked by Edward Snowden's revelations of bulk data collection and surveillance of chancellor Merkel's mobile phone will not be satisfied by anything less than a public commitment from the Americans to curtail future espionage activity in Germany.

"Dialogue in private is fine, but there must be something in public; people are so outraged," said the German official.

Diplomats are playing down the significance of a second arrest of a German government worker on Wednesday, saying it is too soon to tell whether he was actually spying for the US, but are adamant that the arrest of an intelligence officer last week for allegedly selling documents to the CIA reveals a complete breakdown of trust between the two countries.

Anger is running so high in Berlin that several earlier overtures by the US have this week been rejected by Berlin, which instead asked the CIA's station chief to leave the country.

The Guardian has confirmed that CIA director John Brennan previously offered to come to Germany to discuss its concerns but has so far been rebuffed by officials in Berlin, who believe he must commit to something more substantive before they agree to meet.

And Bloomberg News reported on Friday that US ambassador John Emerson even offered to strike an intelligence-sharing agreement similar to the so-called "five eyes" deal between the US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, but saw his offer spurned by Merkel.

German sources deny that a formal no-spying offer was made in this way, but say they are less interested anyway in such a reciprocal arrangement than when Merkel previously discussed joining the five-eyes scheme during her last trip to Washington. They claim this is partly because of earlier confusion over the proposal, and partly because domestic anti-surveillance laws prevent Germany from offering the same level of shared intelligence as English-speaking allies do.

Instead, the German government is seeking an "informal agreement" or "common understanding" over future US intelligence activity in the country, ideally one that does not commit Germany to carrying out yet more surveillance itself in return.

"We need to find something that satisfies the German public mood," said the senior German diplomat on Friday, who warned of growing anti-Americanism in the country that could overshadow trade talks and diplomatic talks over the Ukraine. "There are not many secrets to hide here; the Americans are our friends."

But inside the White House there remains bemusement at what some officials view as an over-reaction to routine intelligence work. "What do they think their intelligence people do?" asked one US official.

http://www.theguardi...talks-espionage

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OK Germans, you've been given General Hayden's response - which was basically, "shut up and quit complaining" -  so how about this...Obama PROMISES not to spy on Germans so much, maybe a little, maybe later, but not so much now - you believe him, don't you?

Well, Germans, would you be surprised to discover that Israel is also spying on you, along with Britain, France, and the rest of the world?   You thought America was above spying on their friends?   What are friends for - if not to spy on their other friends?

Germans have heard about how the elite love to gossip about their friends, right?   Well, it takes spies to get the gossip, the rumors, the innuendo, whatever the traces of b.s. that one has to offer.   All those new technologies developed in Germany can't go to waste if Obama's thugs steal them, can they?    Let Obama drain your brains.  

It won't be painful but merely embarrassing.   You thought you had a sovereign nation?   Think again.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 10:47 PM

844. To save the dollar by hitting the Euro  (7/17/2014)

 

Someone argues,

Originally Posted by imaginethat 

Russia is the world's largest exporter of oil. Any increase in the price of oil benefits Russia.

 

That’s true. But oil price is the fastest way to adjust the demand of the dollar. We saw then the Euro – an alternative to the dollar, is threatened.

 

Portugal bank crisis shakes investor confidence

By Brigitte HagemannJuly 10, 2014

 

Lisbon (AFP) - Fears over the health of Portugal's largest listed bank, Banco Espirito Santo, sent its shares into freefall Thursday, shaking stock markets in Lisbon and across Europe and even the Atlantic.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/portugals-financial-system-weak-pockets-imf-182844328.html

 

Euro is the reserve currency next to the dollar. When dollar is weak that oil buyers have to use Euros for payment to Russian oil, what if Euro’s value is threatened? Similar situation had acted four years ago when US had a financial crisis (the bankruptcy of Leman Brothers caused by sub-prime loan collapse), US resolved it by introducing the Greek financial crisis.

 

  Wall St. Helped to Mask Debt Fueling Europe’s Crisis

 

By LOUISE STORY, LANDON THOMAS Jr. and NELSON D. SCHWARTZ

 

Published: February 13, 2010

Wall Street tactics akin to the ones that fostered subprime mortgages in America have worsened the financial crisis shaking Greece and undermining the euro by enabling European governments to hide their mounting debts.

 

As worries over Greece rattle world markets, records and interviews show that with Wall Street’s help, the nation engaged in a decade-long effort to skirt European debt limits. One deal created by Goldman Sachs helped obscure billions in debt from the budget overseers in Brussels.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/business/global/14debt.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

 

If the high oil price would benefit enemy Russia, then US has to dig into the foundation of ally’s wallet. Last time the ignition was Greece, this time it is Portugal.


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Posted 30 July 2014 - 11:23 PM

845. Another way to weaken the Euro (7/21/2014)

 

The energy supply of Europe is heavily dependent on Russia. About one third to 40% of its natural gas and oil are imported from Russia. One important gas pipe is inside Ukraine. If there is a turmoil in Ukraine, the gas supply to Europe will be affected. The economy of Europe would be weakened, so be the Euro. That’s why we saw an upheaval in Ukraine.

 

Ron Paul Defends Russia After Malaysian Plane Crash

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By Colin Campbell    Jul 21, 2014,

 

One of those unreported things, Paul claimed in his weekly "Texas Straight Talk" column, was the United States' own responsibility for destabilizing the region. Ukraine is currently embroiled in violent conflict between the Ukrainian government and the pro-Russian separatists.

 

"They will not report that the crisis in Ukraine started late last year, when EU and US-supported protesters plotted the overthrow of the elected Ukrainian president, Viktor Yanukovych.

 

Without US-sponsored 'regime change,' it is unlikely that hundreds would have been killed in the unrest that followed. Nor would the Malaysian Airlines crash have happened," Paul wrote.

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ron-paul-defends-russia-malaysian-151731466.html

 

Here EU used to be a follower of the US. I think the Europeans have sensed the coming danger the US will bring to them. German is a major power of EU. Recently, German has twice revealed two US spy cases and eventually expelled a CIA intelligence official. That’s unusual.

 

Germany Demands Top U.S. Intelligence Officer Be Expelled

Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:36 PM

 

 BERLIN — Germany’s relations with the United States plunged to a low point Thursday, with the government demanding the expulsion of the chief American intelligence official stationed here because, it said, Washington has refused to cooperate with German inquiries into United States intelligence activities.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/11/world/europe/germany-expels-top-us-intelligence-officer.html?_r=1  

 

I would say German has sensed (or with its state ability, having the intelligence) that US would sacrifice European’s economy by creating a crisis in Europe. It could be terror attack; or war. The deportation of US intelligence official is just a warning or protest of disagreement. Several days later, Malaysia airliner MH17 was down in Ukraine.


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 11:59 PM

846. The divert flight path (7/28/2014)

 

Evidence shows that MH17 was arranged from its original flight path over to a war zone where it was shot down.

 

MH17 Verdict: Real Evidence Points to US-Kiev Cover-up of Failed “False Flag”

 

By 21st Century Wire         Global Research, July 25, 2014

 

MH17: A Doomed Flight Path

 

A Malaysian Airlines spokesman has already confirmed that, for some unknown reason, Kiev-based Ukrainian Air Traffic Control (ATC) ordered MH17 off of its original flight path along the international air route, known as L980.

 

Most likely, this order was given to pilots while MH17 was still in Polish air space. L980 is one of the most popular and most congested air routes in the world, as well as a key link between major international hubs in Europe, like London Heathrow, Amsterdam Schiphol, and Frankfurt, and Asian destinations, like Singapore, Mumbai, Hong Kong and Kuala Lumpur.

 

MH-17-FLight-Path.jpg 

 

As MH17 moved into Ukrainian air space, it was moved approximately 300 miles north of its usual route - putting it on a new course, flying directly over a war zone – a dangerous area that’s hosted a number of downed military craft over the previous 3 weeks.

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh17-verdict-real-evidence-points-to-us-kiev-cover-up-of-failed-false-flag/5393317

 

Puppet Ukraine censored the air traffic control recordings.

 

Kiev Censors MH17 Air Traffic Control Recordings

Security services confiscated tapes immediately after incident

by Paul Joseph Watson | July 22, 2014

 

Why has Kiev failed to release recordings from air traffic control tapes which could prove what happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 17? Ukrainian security services confiscated the tapes immediately after the incident

 

http://www.infowars.com/kiev-censors-mh17-air-traffic-control-recordings/

 

The case is similar to the shooting down case of “KAL 007” 30 years ago. I talked about it at” 834. Small countries became sacrifice in US plots (5/23/2014)”

 

In 1983, a South Korea passenger airplane KAL 007 was shot down in Russia.

 

A few years ago, after former Soviet Union had collapsed, I came across with an analysis of that incident. The article said the Korean pilots couldn’t make such a big mistake to diverge the normal flight path. It alleged it was a plot that Pentagon used it to test air defense of Soviet Union. It was cold war time. I believe so. The original path was mostly over the ocean. The deviation track went over Kamchatka Peninsula. That is a big land. Pilots couldn’t miss it.

 

1983: Korean Air Lines Flight 007 Shot Down By Soviet Fighter Plane

 

 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/KAL007.svg

 

http://www.politics....hter-plane.html


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Posted 02 September 2014 - 07:38 PM

847. Puppets show to save the dollar (8/1/2014)

 

The MH17 crash was obviously an attempt to draw Europe into a war crisis in Ukraine. As a result, Euro goes down wards.

 

Ukraine Tensions See Euro Come off Boil

 

LONDON — Jul 22, 2014, 11:56 AM ET

 

By PAN PYLAS Associated Press

 

The euro fell Tuesday to its lowest level against the dollar this year amid concerns that the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 will prompt a bigger freeze in relations between the European Union and Russia.

 

The deterioration in relations between the two sides has worked against the euro, which is used by 18 EU countries. The crisis in Ukraine has given traders an opportunity to sell the euro, which had been at multiyear highs against the dollar despite the muted economic recovery in the eurozone and low interest rates.

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/ukraine-tensions-finally-euro-off-boil-24663139

 

Russia wants buyers to abandon the dollar and use the Euro for its oil. Ukraine crisis forces traders to sell the Euro. That’s how US to save its dollar – by creating war crisis.

 

Moreover, there is a turmoil in Libya lately. Libya is an oil rich country. The upheaval there not only push up the oil price, but also hurt economy of European countries. It’s not a coincidence.

 

US Evacuates Embassy In Libya Amid Clashes

By Matthew Lee  July 26, 2014

 

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The United States shut down its embassy in Libya on Saturday and evacuated its diplomats to neighboring Tunisia under U.S. military escort amid a significant deterioration in security in Tripoli as fighting intensified between rival militias, the State Department said.

 

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/us-evacuates-embassy-in-libya

 

When there were “dictators”, the media blew the trumpet for “democracy”, “color revolution”, “Arab spring”. After the fall of the dictatorship, what left over are all US assets: ISIS, Iraq’s Maliki puppet government, rival militias (include Al Qaida) in Libya. Now you rarely hear the angry cry for justice although those agents are more cruel than the “dictators” – they are bombing civilians; beheading P.O.W. and doing religious extinction. Because all those puppets are working for the same master.

 

The puppets now are acting war shows in Iraq, Libya and Ukraine(where only Russia is the real enemy), all for one purpose, to save the dollar from collapse.

 

848. The crashes of MH17 and MH370 serve for one purpose (8/8/2014)

 

US has locked two strategy enemies – Russia and China. Both are the threats to the dollar.

 

The tactic to deal with these two enemies is to weaken them by war.

 

China has conflicts with its neighbor countries. It has territory problem with Japan in East China Sea and with Vietnam and Philippine in South China Sea. China blames US standing at the side of these three countries. Malaysia has territory problem with China in South China Sea too but it keeps friendship with China. To push Malaysia to join the anti-China front in Asia, MH370 case was created. The mysterious disappearance of the passengers would create a long lasting demanding for the victims from China side because most victims were Chinese citizens. (That is why MH370 case was produced as a mysterious disappearance not an evident crash) Anyhow, China and Malaysia might have realized the plot and haven’t made it a crisis.

 

The Ukraine crisis started in February when a civil turmoil happened which caused the stepping down of pro-Russia President Yanukovych. The result is there is an upheaval in East Ukraine. Since Russia and Europe both have interest in Ukraine, a war between the two is easy to be ignited. The shooting down of MH17 was created as an ignition. MH17 was well selected – like MH370 – for its passengers. Most of victims in MH17 were Dutch. Holland is a major country of EU and NATO. If Holland is infuriated, the possibility of a covert war between EU and Russia in Ukraine is greatly increased.

 

I think US is the mastermind of the incidents of MH17 and MH370. The purpose is to push Russia and China into wars with their neighbor countries to weaken them.

See my analysis on MH370: from #822 to #835.

See my analysis on MH17: from #844 to #847.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 11:53 PM

849. Ebola spreading is a bio attack (8/12/2014)

 

The recent outbreak of Ebola epidemic is a bio attack. It plays the same role as SARS to create a public panic which finally will cause a heavy economic damage. The target aims at E.U.. The main project is to create a conflict between E.U. and Russia in Ukraine crisis. E.U. and Russia all realize it and are trying to avoid such a confrontation. The shooting down of MH17 was one of the efforts. To push the reluctant E.U. countries to step up the confrontation with Russia, US activate the Ebola attack. It’s a whipping, a blackmail. If you don’t do to my way, you’ll be suffered an epidemic. Your economy will be damaged.

 

The bird flu virus and Ebola virus, are the secret weapons of Pentagon because so far the outside world has no effective medicine to deal with them. 

 

Weaponized Ebola Virus Info

 

Filoviruses like Ebola have been of interest to the Pentagon since the late 1970s, mainly because Ebola and its fellow viruses have high mortality rates — in the current outbreak, roughly 60 percent to 72 percent of those who have contracted the disease have died — and its stable nature in aerosol make it attractive as a potential biological weapon.

 

http://lunaticoutpos....php?tid=453171

 

 

The source of Ebola was well selected. Watch the map, Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria and Sierra Leone are below West Europe, then it goes north to Spain. The dead Spanish priest indicates E.U. would be the target.

 

Of course, to get rid of being suspected as the original source of Ebola spreader. US got two American aid workers being contaminated with the Ebola. Both recovered from the deadly disease. It means US has developed the Ebola vaccine already. Nobody will start a bio war that would also hit himself unless he has had effective cure medicine already. That’s why there was such a comic that WHO demanded the drug but US said it’s too early as it was still in test. The possible production will be in next year.

 

They won't let out the new drug before they seeing the result of this bio attack - the economic  crisis in Europe.  That likely will happen in September.

 

 

850. Plot to frame Russia in shooting down of MH17 failed   (8/19/2014)

 

There is a silence in Western media about the crash of MH17, compare to the noise they made at original hours when MH17 was shot down when the evidence shows there were 30mm bullet holes on fuselage of MH17. The bullet couldn’t reach altitude of 32,000 feet from ground that’s common sense.

 

  First Examination of Malaysian MH-17 Cockpit Photo Shows Ukraine Government Shot that Plane Down

 

By Eric Zuesse    7/31/2014

On July 30th, a German pilot headlined at anderweltonline, "Shocking Analysis of the 'Shooting Down' of Malaysian MH17," and he provided the first public analysis of the photos that were available immediately after the disaster, of the plane's cockpit, and of a wing.

 

http://www.opednews.com/articles/First-Examination-of-Malay-by-Eric-Zuesse-Activism-Anti-War_Obama-Administration_Peace_War_President-Barack-Obama-POTUS-140731-170.html

 

 

Be noticed it’s from a Germany pilot. German is one who suffered from Ukraine conflict.

Analysis from Malaysia newspaper.

 

  MH17: Pockmarks look like from very, very heavy machine gun fire, says first OSCE monitor on-scene

By Haris Hussain - 7 August 2014

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The holes in the wreckage of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 are believed to have come from 30mm cannon fire.

 

KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.

 

This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.

 

 http://www.nst.com.my/node/20961

 
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Posted 23 September 2014 - 11:54 PM

851. Why Malaysia airlines was selected as target (8/23/2014)

 

In #848, I said Malaysia was targeted because it keeps a friendship with China while China is a covert enemy of the US. In #845, I talked about German had sensed that E.U. was provoked by the US for a covert war with Russia. German is unwilling to follow the US instruction. It expelled the CIA Chief from the German as a protest.

 

Then a Chinese forum offered an information how Malaysia and German were hurt by heavy insurance loss in the two incidents. The insurance company of Malaysia Airline is a Germany.

 

  1. MH370

German insurance company Allianz says it has made initial payments in connection with the missing Malaysian Airlines plane.

 

Allianz’s global head of communication Hugo Kidston confirmed Wednesday that the Munich-based insurer and “other co-reinsurers of Malaysia Airlines aviation hull and liability policy have made initial payments.”

 

http://www.worthytoshare.net/insurance-payments-made-malaysian-airlines-disappearance#

 

2.. MH17

 

Malaysia Airlines Girds for New Insurance Battle

By Enda Curran     Updated July 18, 2014

 

German insurer Allianz Global Corporate & Specialty is the lead reinsurer of the Malaysia Airlines plane for its so-calleded hull and liability policy, according to a report from insurance broker Aon PLC, which valued the plane itself at $97.3 million.

 

http://online.wsj.com/articles/malaysia-airlines-girds-for-new-insurance-battle-1405673357

 

The comment said, “German was shot even it was laying on the ground”.

 

852. Prepare for big disasters in September (8/30/2014)

 

In “849. Ebola spreading is a bio attack (8/12/2014)” I said the Ebola spreading in Europe “That likely will happen in September.”

 

I said so based on following reason:

 

1.                                                               The Feds arranged an East Coast trip for my relatives in Mid-September. The plan to murder my family members has been planned every year. It used to be designed in the form of “accident in travel”. That almost becomes a routine. It goes along with the plot of “elimination of Kat Sung”. The murder cases will be distracted by big events such like natural disaster, war or terror attack.

 

 

 

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“Federal Reserve likely to end QE stimulus program in October

 

Minutes from June policy meeting reveal likely October end date even as officials say US economy is not out of the woods

9 July 2014

 

http://www.theguardi...program-october

 

Follow the end of QE, the zero interest policy will end too. The rate will go up. To ensure the money flow into the US. Natural disaster, war or terror attack will be created to shake the foundation of Europe and Asia. Make US a ‘safe place” for the international capital.

 

That’s why we saw

“Ebola virus reaches Germany as woman is tested in Berlin and 600 are quarantined

 

THE Ebola virus came a little bit closer to home today after a woman was tested for the deadly disease in the German capital of Berlin.

By: Emily Fox

August 19, 2014 “

 

 

“Chinese media warn US over warplane interception

Beijing (AFP) - China's state-run media warned Washington on Monday that Beijing could treat its surveillance flights as an "act of hostility", after accusations a Chinese fighter jet flew dangerously close to a US military aircraft.” 

 

“Strong California quake causes injuries, damage

By ELLEN KNICKMEYER and LISA LEFF   8/24/2014”

 

US and E.U. said Russia invades Ukraine and threaten to upgrade new sanction.

 

 

“Terror plot targeting Eiffel Tower, Louvre foiled, French police say”; “Norway on alert over feared terrorist attack”…..

 

All these cases will develop to real bigger ones in September if their main plot of “elimination of Kat Sung” goes through.

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 09:55 PM

853. A trap in stock market (9/3/2014)

 

The core plot is to set up a trap to capture the international capital. That trap is the US stock market. Watch the chart. Dow jones index now is at its historical peak – above 17,000.

 

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Dow Jones index chart

 

Although people feel nothing good in “economy recovery” – good pay jobs continue to loss; homeowners rate is the lowest in 19 years; more people dependent on welfare; yet the media give you another picture. They say unemployment rate drops to nearly 6% although most of the new jobs are part time ones. They say GDP jumps 4.2% in 2nd quarter because they control the national data collection and outsiders hardly know the truth if they cooked the data. Even the negative 1st quarter GDP -2.1% didn’t influence the US stock market because they are making up a trap.

 

To drive the money into that trap, the Feds created war crisis in Asia (mainly by encouraging Japan, Vietnam and Philippine to have a territory dispute with China) and In Europe (by create a civil war in Ukraine) and in Mid-East (ISIL is the puppet of CIA)

 

Once the international capital found the prospect of economy of Europe and Asia are dim, they have to turn to the US market. A large amount of money will invest in stock market. Then at certain level, a big case (e.g. a terror attack) will happen and US stock market will have a big fall to lock that lump of money up for a period.

 

Meanwhile, you will see the media beat the drum to propaganda how US economy going prosperous.

 

Here is a little news to justify planned collapse of the stock market and says the crash will be a big one.

 

70% Stock Market Crash Imminent - CIA Insider Warns

http://pro.moneymapp...MMRQ824/?h=true

 

854. Talks between China and US (9/10/2014)

 

On May 2, China has deployed an oil drill platform in controversial South China Sea. That caused a fierce standoff between China and Vietnam. There even was a riot took place in Vietnam.

 

Anti-China Riots in Vietnam Kill 2 as Workers Flee

By Bloomberg News May 15, 2014

 

Two months later there was a dramatic turnaround. China suddenly removed that oil rig, one month earlier than it previous announced. Withdrawal of rig was welcomed by Hanoi and Washington.

 

Chinese Oil Rig Near Vietnam to Be Moved

 

By JANE PERLEZJULY 15, 2014

 

BEIJING — A Chinese energy company announced Wednesday that a giant oil rig that was deployed in disputed waters off the coast of Vietnam two months ago had completed its exploration work and would be moved.

 

The announcement, released by Xinhua, the state-run news agency, came a day after President Obama called President Xi Jinping to talk about what the White House called the “important progress” at meetings between the two countries in Beijing last week, although they did not settle any differences.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/16/world/asia/chinese-oil-rig-near-vietnam-to-be-moved.html?_r=0 

 

Obviously, it was the result of the talks between officials of China and US.

 

Chinese president says a China-US confrontation would be a "disaster" for the world as he opens annual talks.

Last updated: 09 Jul 2014

 

The two-day talks being led by US Secretary of State John Kerry and Treasury Secretary Jack Lew is likely to take in China's currency, North Korea's nuclear programme and escalating tensions between China and neighbours in the South China Sea, and with Japan in the East China Sea.

 

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2014/07/china-xi-urges-respect-as-kerry-visits-20147951140863342.html

 

I believe a secret deal has been reached in the talk. That’s why I allege the Feds would create murder cases in September. See #849 and #852.


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Posted 05 October 2014 - 06:05 PM

Ebola is murder.   Genetically-modified murder.  

 

US intelligence should have picked up the Ebola threat months ago and recommended air travel bans and quarantine.

 

Where are the whistleblowers in the intel community?    Why sit back and watch your country die from a preventable disease?

 

Why won't you take the risk and tell everyone what you know about this Ebola plot against America?


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 12:42 AM

855. China got a permission to war on Japan (9/14/2014)

 

Was China soft in its territory dispute with Vietnam? Not really. I said John Kerry and Treasury Secretary Jack Lew visited China on July 8. A secret deal has reached in their meeting. I alleged China has been granted a permission by US to hit the Japan. China wouldn’t start a war with Japan because there is an military agreement between Japan and America. But US would remain as a bystander this time. Of course, China won’t engage wars in two fronts at same time. So it suddenly withdrew its oil rig from South China Sea. (announced on July 15)

 

The development next convinced me China is ready for a war with Japan in East China Sea. The big topic on a Chinese newspaper “World Journal” on July 26 made it very clear - “The sword points to Japan”.

 

Hundreds of flights disrupted in Shanghai; military exercises cited

By Julie Makinen

 

July 21, 2014, 12:45 PM|Reporting from Beijing

 

Hundreds of flights to and from Shanghai were delayed or canceled Monday as Chinese authorities imposed strict air traffic control measures reportedly due to military exercises -- the second such near-shutdown of airspace over the metropolis in eight days.

 

http://www.latimes.c...0721-story.html

 

 

Be noticed on this news:

1. The disruption on civil flights starts on July 13. Five days after secret meeting.

2. It’s a large scale military force movement started abruptly. It took more than a week as far as July 21.

3. It’s a preparation for a big military action on East China Sea started on July 27.

 

Live Fire Military Training Drills in East China Sea: An Appraisal

 

Col NSP Bisht

 

On July 27, 2014 the Chinese Ministry of National Defense announced that military exercises will be conducted off China’s South East coast in the East China Sea from July 29 to August 15, 2014

http://www.usiofindi...bno=41&ano=2703

 

PLA holds 3-month long exercises

 

Staff Reporter 2014-07-27

http://www.wantchina...000007&cid=1101

 

Why did US persuade China to abandon the conflict in South China Sea but turn onto East China Sea? As I have already told. US has set up a big trap in its stock market. (see #853) It’s waiting for the money escaped from war fields of Asia and Europe. Compare Vietnam with Japan, which market has more money to withdraw?

 

 

856. The war plan in Europe and Asia (9/21/2014)

 

5/2/2014   China deployed an oil rig in South China Sea. It started a violent dispute with

        Vietnam because the area is a controversial territory.

 

7/8 – 7/9  State Secretary John Kerry and Treasury Secretary Jack Lew visited China to hold a 

        meeting there. I alleged a secret deal has been made between US and China. This

        was an important timing point. The war plot in Europe and Asia began after that

        meeting.

 

7/15     China abruptly announced the remove of its oil rig from disputed area. One month

        earlier than its previous plan.

 

7/13 – 7/21(7/25?)  Unusual disruption of civil flights in Shanghai international airport and

               other East China area. News said it was caused by military exercises.

 

7/17      MH17 of Malaysia Airline was shot down in Ukraine war area.

 

7/27      Chinese Ministry of National Defense announced that military exercises will be

          conducted off China’s South East coast in the East China Sea from July 29 to 

          August 15

 

7/27      China military also announced that PLA holds 3-month long exercises

 

August:     Ukraine government force started a large scale attack on East Ukrainian rebel

           area but suffered a big loss.

 

August:     Chinese military drilled over East China Sea. 

 

You can see the key timing point is 7/8 and 7/9. After the secret deal of sino-America, two potential war fields in Asia and Europe started their war procedure. In mid-July, Chinese military had a big movement to gather its force in at East China in the name of military exercise where the potential enemies are Japan and Taiwan.

 

In mid-July West media also started a large propaganda war on the downing of Malaysia airplane – a preparation to justify the expansion of Ukrainian war.

 

The designated war over East China Sea doesn’t happen because it connected to the core plan of the Feds – the elimination of Kat Sung. China plays a role in that plan.


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 12:47 AM

US intelligence agencies failed to predict EBOLA'S overwhelming rise and were “not sure what to do"

 

now what if isis uses ebola to invade mexico

 

don't worry, i need someone cheap to work in my grass cutting business.


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Posted 26 October 2014 - 10:23 PM

857. Secret deal and stock market (9/25/2014)

 

One phenomenon that China joins US July-October/2014 plot (trap money by war) was that there was an unusual uprising in Chinese stock market after the alleged July 8-9 US-Sino meeting.

 

Taking the advantage of US stock market plot, China government intending to trap its own domestic speculation capital too by pushing up its stock market. In early September, there was such a news in Chinese net:

 

牛市背后的资金逻辑:炒房买矿资金跑步入场

 

2014090408:06    来源:人民网-股票频道

 

据了解,这一轮A股市场的快速上涨始于722日。随后的10个交易日,上证指数上涨168点,涨幅达8.22%,很多个股更是累积了20%30%涨幅。

 

http://finance.peopl...5-25600418.html

 

Interpretation:

The logic of capital behind a bullish market: the speculation capital in real estate and mining industry are running into the stock market.

Sept. 4/2014   source: People net. Stock.

 

The current rapid uprising of A Share Market started from 7/22. In following 10 business days, the Shanghai securities index was up 168 points, a rising of 8.22%, many stocks even accumulated an up margin of 20% to 30%.

 

https://lh5.googleus...E=438-h207-p-no

 

Shanghai Securities Index Chart

 

The sudden uprising of China stock market synchronized with the military exercises over East China Sea. That military drill will last for three months – a timing factor in their secret deal.

 

One payment of the secret deal also relates to the stock market. That is the big debut of Alibaba. The Chinese company got nearly 22 billion from US capital market making it the biggest U.S.-listed IPO in history after the IPO of credit card processing company Visa in 2008.

 

When US is thirst for capital to promote its economy, they gave that big money to China. Rare people know it’s a payment for the secret deal.

 

 

858. September/2014 plot (10/2/2014)

 

“Plan a Travel” is a traditional tactic for Feds to organize a murder case. That’s why I repeatedly warned of a “September terror attack” this time because they planned one

 

In September, my young sister had some friends to visit her from Shanghai. They booked an “East Coast trip” from 9/9 to 9/17. My sister and my brother both joined that trip although they had been there before. I view it as another attempt murder plan. The time and place were well selected. It was around 9/11 and the place was in New York to justify a “revenge terror attack” from extreme Islamists for the anniversary of 911 attack. The attack could be a nuclear one or dirty bomb attack to cover up multiple cancer deaths happened in New York recently.

 

In September, my wife also had a friend (with a fellow tourist) to visit her from Shanghai. They started their backpack tour of US from San Jose. They store their luggage (shopping merchandise) at my home. Their leaving date is 11/17/2014.

 

The unusual visitors from China must have been arranged by Chinese secret police. It coincides with the “war to drive money” plot (see #853 to #857). I believe the whole plan was projected by the Feds. The war over East China Sea doesn’t take place so far because the main plan – elimination of Kat Sung is not fulfilled.

 

China’s involvement in this plot is obvious. We can see it from its abrupt withdraw oil rig 981 from South China Sea in July; swift build up military force in East China for drills in East China Sea at same time. PLA said the military exercises will last for three months, it is a time schedule to fit for Feds’ murder plan.

 

859. Eric Holder’s resignation and November plot (10/6/2014)

 

Eric Holder To Step Down As Attorney General

by Carrie Johnson

 

September 25, 2014

Eric Holder intends to leave the Justice Department as soon as his successor is confirmed, a process that could run through 2014 and even into next year. A former U.S. government official says Holder has been increasingly "adamant" about his desire to leave soon.

 

http://www.npr.org/b...ttorney-general

 

Three years ago, Eric Holder was under huge pressure for his authorization of “Operation Fast and Furious”. He neglects the demand of his resignation.  (see “693. Eric Holder and Operation “Fast and Furious” (11/14/2011)”)

 

Why he suddenly resigns this time with no outside pressure? I had pointed it out already in #693: “Why Eric Holder clings to his office not to resign? He is waiting for a big case. When the FBI, DEA in Department of Justice commit a crime – killing people in a framed case, he’ll step down to take the responsibility. That’s the way how the Feds play the politics.”

 

 

Now the big case is planned. Eric Holder claims resignation in advance to avoid being linked his resignation to the coming murder case when it happens. 

 

 The “September East Coast trip plot” was soured, the Feds have had another trip set up in November – a Mexico cruise. It is a big one I have ever seen. More than twenty people I know are arranged in that trip - all my siblings, their spouse and some friends. The Feds try to eliminate all witnesses of their crime. If there is a cruise ship accident, it is pre-planned. Eric Holder's resignation is a proof.


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Posted 26 October 2014 - 10:55 PM

The Mandrake Treatment should have been employed: Carpet nuke the entire middle east and kill every living thing there from Yemen to Turkey, Syria to Iran. That would be the correct way to end Islam.

No national leader has the cojones to do that, so, we have what we have. Israel and Jihadis....yay.

Pussies are afraid to exterminate hundreds of millions of crazy people. They make me want to puke.

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