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#21 Mandrake


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 09:58 AM

You live here and pay taxes, Vladzo.  Do you feel it is your duty to pay for the upkeep of some Honduran kids that snuck across our border?  How much more in taxes do you think you should pay?  Would you like to have another $100 a week deducted from your pay so that little Pablo can stay in a nice air conditioned room and eat better than you and all he has to do is look sad for the camera until he turns 18?


I say deport them back into the Mexican desert from whence they came and let Mexico worry about them.


Mexico should be punished.


Maybe if we bombed a few Mexican cities, they might watch their borders more carefully?

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:41 PM

Migration is part of human nature, but rules are for civilization.    A civil society cannot exist if nobody cares about its rules.

This child invasion was planned and executed by the US government, which had advertised months in advance for child escorts for Central and South America.    Children do not migrate because their natural instinct is to remain with their parents no matter how bad things are.

The entire migration scam was cooked up to dissolve US borders and it is about to backfire on the government because the people of America demand border protection.   No defensible borders = no definable country.  


In any civil society, parents who send their children into the desert without adult supervision would be prosecuted for child abandonment, child abuse, etc.   The parents of these immigrant children are endangering them by sending them thousands of miles across hot desert land in the middle of summer.   Hundreds probably have been killed trying to reach the US border.  

That is a prosecutable crime.    The US officials involved in creating this migration belong in prison.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:46 PM

So, its okay for Jews to migrate to the Palestine and kick out the Palestinians?


Anyway, this has been all over the news.  We're probably just going to deport their asses.  They may have a right to migrate, but we have the right to maintain our borders and kick them out.


I'm thinking that minefields might be a part of future border security....and wolf packs.


Once they start getting tossed back the border and later blown up and eaten, those kids may get second thoughts about migrating here.


hey mandrake :::

it took me some time to think about it, and now i know exactly what to say to you.


you as as different from hitler as mengele was different from hitler.

you like and understand human children as much as mengele liked human children.

you ignorant yankee you still do not understand what you did.

you decided to take control of the whole world, you want to be the educator of all the human race;

and then you also want to decide who is "good" and who is ":bad" while here in north america you are this;

How This California Police Officer Escaped Charges for Shooting a 13-Year-Old Dead
 "Last October, protests erupted over the fatal, racially charged police shooting of 13-year-old Andy Lopez in Santa Rosa, California, after his BB gun was mistaken for a real AK47."

you are mistaking all that you do, you do not know how to "identify", you only know how to mistake.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:52 PM

How This California Police Officer Escaped Charges for Shooting a 13-Year-Old Dead
 "Last October, protests erupted over the fatal, racially charged police shooting of 13-year-old Andy Lopez in Santa Rosa, California, after his BB gun was mistaken for a real AK47."

Protesters hold an image of shooting victim Andy Lopez, during a march in Santa Rosa, California, in 2013. (photo: AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez



Last October, protests erupted over the fatal, racially charged police shooting of 13-year-old Andy Lopez in Santa Rosa, California, after his BB gun was mistaken for a real AK47. But the officer, Deputy Erick Gelhaus won’t face any criminal charges, the Sonoma County District Attorney announced late Tuesday. In fact, the sheriff’s office’s investigation concluded that Gelhaus did not even violate any internal policies and procedures and will not face discipline, other than the suspension he already faced while the investigation was pending, a spokesperson told ThinkProgress.

In many ways, this outcome is little surprise. Limited available data suggests officers are rarely held accountable for their use of force, least of all with criminal charges. But a 52-page legal memo released by District Attorney Jill Ravitch in announcing her decision — “the first time a report as detailed as this has been made public in Sonoma County,” — sheds light on how a 13-year-old walking along the road with a BB gun came to die at the hands of a longtime police officer, and how the laws and policies operate to protect that officer:

Andy Lopez was carrying a toy gun that looked remarkably real.

13-year-old Andy Lopez was carrying a BB gun made to look like an AK47 when he walked down the street the day of his death, on his way to a friend’s house. But officers said they didn’t know it, because it retained the shape and look of the real thing from a distance. Toy guns should are supposed to be differentiated by a bright orange plug at the end of the barrel, but a friend of Lopez’s who spoke to investigators during the DA investigation said the tip on Lopez’s gun broke off when he dropped the gun. Another classmate of Lopez’s came to school admnistrators crying the day after Lopez’s death, saying that the gun was his and he never should have let Lopez borrow it with the tip broken off.

It’s possible that if the tip had been intact Gelhaus would have seen it and known the BB gun to be a fake. But what if he didn’t view the gun from the right angle, or could not see the color from that distance? A bill introduced since Lopez’s death would require BB and air guns to be more clearly marked as toys with distinguishing features throughout, such as brightly colored plastic. While some other fake guns are required to be marked as such, that California law requirement does not currently apply to BB and air guns.

Officers got no closer to Lopez than 20 yards away.

Deputy Erick Gelhaus was riding as a passenger with Deputy Michael Schemmel doing what the DA report described as some “proactive police work” on the day of October 22. They first saw Andy about 25 yards ahead of them on Moorland Avenue. Gelhaus, a firearms instructor and Iraq war veteran, believed the object Lopez was carrying to be an AK47 and radioed in his observation.

Although Gelhaus had radioed for assistance, the two deputies on the scene acted quickly in the moments that followed. Schemmel parked his vehicle about 20 yards from Lopez, at which point they yelled to Lopez to put down his gun, with Lopez’s back still to the officers. This was the closest they got to Lopez, and seemingly never got close enough to see that Lopez was a child, or that he was carrying something that looked slightly different from an AK47 in key respects. It was from that vantage point — the equivalent of 60 feet — that Gelhaus fired an estimated 8 shots after Lopez began to turn toward the officers and the barrel of the gun “which had been pointed down, began to ascend.” Several witnesses who drove past Andy reported that they believed Lopez to be as young as 11 and though the gun was likely a toy. But the District Attorney’s summary concluded, “Although some [other witnesses] who saw that Andy was a teenaged boy assumed that the weapon was fake, it appears from the evidence that Deputy Gelhaus did not get a good enough view of Andy to determine he was a teenager.”

Some witnesses also reported that they didn’t hear or misheard what the officers said when they asked Lopez to put the gun down, contributing to the possibility, particularly given that distance, that Lopez did not hear their specific command either or comprehend what he was being told.

Officers acted quickly without first exploring other less deadly options.

The DA’s narrative tells the story of officers who moved in a matter of seconds from spotting what they believed in their professional expertise to be an AK47 to shooting their deadly weapons. They had in their tool belts Tasers and pepper spray, in addition to their vehicles. And they were located at what could have been perceived as a safe distance behind the person just walking down the road. But Gelhaus didn’t attempt to deploy any of these options or to get closer to Lopez before firing his gun. This is in part on account of the distinct destructive capacity of AK47s. He knew its bullets could pierce the deputy’s body armor or the body of a car. And an expert testified that Lopez would have been able to aim, point, and fire the weapon in less than a second.

Officers are permitted by law to meet deadly force with deadly force when they reasonably fear for their lives or others’. And meeting an AK47 with gunshots could, by some measures, come closer to proportional force than using gunshots to respond to someone carrying a shovel or a watering hose — scenarios that prompted deadly police force in other recent incidents. But all of these cases involve dramatic misperception by officers.

Laws and policies are extremely deferential to officers.

Courts have given officers a significant amount of leeway in cases of misperception, in part because they are reacting within seconds without the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. As the U.S. Supreme Court explained in a 1989 case, the determination of reasonableness “must embody allowance for the fact that police officers are often forced to make split-second judgments–in circumstances that are tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving.” The California courts have gone even farther. In a 2009 California Court of Appeals case cited in the DA memo, the judges said, “the defendant police officer is in the exercise of the privilege of protecting the public peace and order [and] he is entitled to the even greater use of force than might be in the same circumstances required for self-defense. … The test is highly deferential to the police officer’s need to protect himself and others…”

But when does officer misperception become unreasonable? That question remains mostly unanswered in the courts. Perhaps more significant than the fact that Gelhaus won’t face criminal charges (unless the FBI intervenes) is that he won’t face any discipline by the sheriff’s department, either. Training and policies have the power to shape day-to-day officer responses, and should be attuned to the inclinations and biases of officers. For example, officers are exposed to a disproportionate amount of violence, meaning they sometimes react to life events through that skewed lens and require the restraint of the law and training to curb that instinct.

As Philadelphia Commissioner Charles Ramsey said in a report on police use of force, “When you ride around all day long and you’re dealing with shootings, you’re dealing with robberies, you’re dealing with all this violent crime that’s constantly going on, that’s going to also influence how you respond in certain situations. And we have to take that into account in our training. We teach our officers to try to interact with people and realize that not everybody in a given neighborhood is a thug or a criminal, they’re not all out to hurt you. These are important things that I think we’ve got to face head on.”

Data suggests that current training is only exacerbating this psychological bias. Psychology Professor Dennis Rosenbaum is studying officers and has found that they come out of police academy already having a bias toward use of force.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:58 PM

here are some more readers you may contact mr. mandrake.


+2 # Jingze 2014-07-10 09:46
Americans do not respect life. It's that simple.


+31 # RMDC 2014-07-09 12:18
Police having a bias toward the use of force!!!!!! Well, no kidding. In spite of all the reationales, I still think a cop should have recognized that this was a child, a 13 year old, and should not have shot at him at all. Was the kid doing anything criminal? Did he just rob a bank? No, he was just walking along a rode. So why not just leave him alone. If it really had been an AK-47, so what. Teaparty nuts carried AK-47s to Obama rallies and nothing happened. This is just another trigger happy cop who now can put another notch in his gun.
+23 # John S. Browne 2014-07-09 16:34

I'm with you again, and add that this was a clear example of presumption of guilt in violation of the supreme law(s) of the land, the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights (which officers evident- ly aren't trained to take serious anymore, if they ever were; or if they haven't long lacked such training anyway---they swear to uphold it when they're sworn-in as officers; but, as with most "Amerikans", it is now just routine and nothing but a formality, and/or not to be taken seriously any longer; or only taken "seriously" as nothing but a symbol). Obviously, cops today are train- ed to presume guilt, and that to do so is "perfectly okay". I experienced it as far back as the 1970s and '80s; so one can imagine, in the post 9-11 climate, how much worse it is today.

It will never happen, but we need a constitutional amendment adding criminal penalties for violating the Bill of Rights, particularly for presumption of guilt, as well as police violently assaulting defenseless, unarmed, non-violent protesters and dissenters, recognizing the all such dissent and protest are supposed to be "protected" First Amendment rights. Clearly, though, they no longer are protected rights, or rights at all whatsoever, protected or not.

+12 # John S. Browne 2014-07-09 16:36

Besides, in this particular officer-involve d shooting case, constitutional amendment or not, there should be other legal restrictions on police officers using deadly force UNTIL appar- ent weapons are actually pointed at them. These particularly officers, especially the killer of innocent victim, Andy Lopez, had cover; and they could have gotten behind their police vehicle and at least attempted to defuse the situation (from where it was extremely unlikely that if the suspect had fired an AK-47 at them, the bullets would have passed through the entire vehicle and wounded them); but cops don't even try to do that anymore, as was done in the past, at least among local police if not federal officers; so, obviously, carrying out such defusing similar situations isn't even part of their training anymore; or, if it is, it is clearly most-often ignored.

+11 # John S. Browne 2014-07-09 16:36

Children with toy guns can't even walk down the street, or play close to their homes in their neighborhoods, anymore. That shows that what we've become, and are becoming more and more, in this country, is insane; and that local police forces are being trained that when they're out on routine patrol in the U.S., they're in a so-called "war zone" and/or "battlefield", and that EVERYONE, including children, are presumed guilty. That is NOT American, is not what we ever wanted this country to come to, and it is COM- PLETELY antithetical to, and is the antithesis of, what this country is (ONLY) supposed to stand for. But few "Amerikans" understand that anymore; or, if they do, most of them still defer to the police, no matter how many excessive force cases they hear about, if they even believe any of them are excessive at all; which most don't, because they fear criticizing the police and/or the government, and falsely believe that such criticism is (supposedly) "wrong" and/or "traitorous", etc.

+11 # John S. Browne 2014-07-09 16:37

Only those who don't educate and edify themselves with the truth and seriousness of the situation concerning policing in "Amerika" today, think that everything's still hunky-dory in this country, and "recognize" it as (supposedly) still being America as America is (ONLY) supposed to be. The rest of us, who do educate and edify our- selves about the madness that is taking over this country, live in constant dismay and alarm at just how increasingly insane things are getting to be. And it should alarm and dismay every American. In addition we should be doing EVERYTHING in our non-violent power to stop things from becoming so insane, and from this madness taking over completely as it is taking over, and becoming more and more insane.

-6 # brux 2014-07-09 20:04
In a normal neighborhood that is exactly what would most likely happen. In a neighborhood of high crime and minority hatred of the police this kind of things is going to happen. the officer did not handle this right, the outcome was bad, tragically bad.

But, we ought to study all these cases like we study airplane crashes, nationally and figure out what is happening and why and how to re-engineer the police response to things like this.

You are right about the TEA Party people who carried weapons, but they are parsed by the police easily,. I don't know if this poor kid really lifted his gun or not, but if he did, that is something TP'ers do not do.
+30 # Radscal 2014-07-09 14:13
"Gelhaus, a firearms instructor and Iraq war veteran, believed the object Lopez was carrying to be an AK47 and radioed in his observation."

This is an important issue. We are actively seeking war veterans for the police and then arming them with weapons and tools of war.

I think that all war veterans should have a reverse-boot camp training that lasts at least as long as we spend turning kids into killing machines to help rehabilitate them into civilian life. The need for this is nowhere more obvious than when veterans go straight into the police.
-12 # brux 2014-07-09 19:59
That makes sense, but first you have to actually establish that this guy made a mistake, or did something bad, and then tie that to something he picked up in Iraq. To study everything to death is just not possible, and when you say something like that you make a certain segment of the population crazy because they know what happens when you study stuff that is "debatable" and even things that are not debatable .... they get polarized and debated forever and never solved. You system simply does not work.
+1 # Radscal 2014-07-10 13:49
Very high percentages of Vets have PTSD. They deserve and need a "reverse boot camp" to help them readjust to civilian life.

This particular cop shot an unarmed kid, so it seems pretty incontestable that he "did something bad."
-11 # brux 2014-07-09 19:57
I hate to say this, but awful as these situations are, they really do not matter in the long run. I don't mean to say that this unfortunate young man's life does not matter, but that this particular problem happens a certain small number of times a year to people who get caught in a sequence of circumstances that quickly get forced into a quick life of death decision call.

People are notoriously bad at making these calls, and even the most professional are going to err on the side to protect their lives. Are these some who seek to shoot people or like to shoot people? I'd like to think no, but I'm sure there are.

There should be accompanying warning signs that come with these kind of people, and they should be fired from the police force and from having any job where they carry firearms or have the right to used violence.

Sad as it is, there is not a good selection system for police officers ... we select people many of whom seem to tend towards violence and wielding power, and some police departments have a culture of violence as well.

I doubt we will see improvement with this because it is us ... it is a problem with us, our system, how we live and what we are. If people want a better system they have to get serious about discussing it and be willing to work. So far people put a small bit of energy into arguing on the internet and voting every few years and other than they don't think much about anything.

Good thing this does not affect lots of people.
0 # Radscal 2014-07-10 13:53
" awful as these situations are, they really do not matter in the long run"

Wow! Just Wow!

"Good thing this does not affect lots of people."

How many innocent people murdered by cops would qualify as no longer acceptable. There is no official record kept of cops killing people, but one survey of newspaper stories found 300 killed just in Chicago in just a couple years.
-8 # arquebus 2014-07-09 21:29
If you want cops to have to wait to use lethal force until a gun is actually pointed at him, you are going to have a lot of dead cops. If a gun is already pointed at him, a cop will not be able to draw and fire before the opponent puts a couple of rounds in him.

Perhaps commentators should consider that the officer had probable cause to stop the individual as under California law, all firearms--rifle s, shotguns, rifles--carried in public must be cased. An AK-47 would fall into that category.

I never read anything indicating the size of the youngster. When I was 13, I was six feet tall and weighed about 150 as did a good many of my peers at the time.

Most police departments have ride-along programs. Go spend some time with cops on patrol...get a feel for their world. At least you will speaking with knowledge instead of jumping to conclusions.
-5 # Maxwell 2014-07-09 22:08
It's true that some cops have done bad things and gotten away with them because the system protected them. Because of this, it could be tempting to start thinking of every police-related death as a racist murder, or at least as an abuse of power.

However, it's not clear to me that this was the case in Andy Lopez's tragic death. I wasn't there and I still don't know all the facts of the case, so I haven't come to any conclusions yet.

I grieve for Andy and for those who loved him.

I grieve for the community who feel the police are often indifferent, unfair, or even hostile to them. This perhaps makes it all but impossible for them to see Andy's death in any way but through an assumption of injustice.

Deputy Erick Gelhaus may or may not be guilty of a crime. But his guilt or innocence has to be determined by the facts, not by assumptions resulting from the long, sorry history of poor police relations with minorities.
+5 # tm7devils 2014-07-09 22:22
Gelhaus is one lucky dude...if I was the boys father he would have never had the chance to celebrate his next birthday...
+4 # tm7devils 2014-07-10 06:50
To the -1: So, you don't know that you are living under a "police state"...or you don't care...which is it? And you should know that the courts are not on your side and your blogs are like spitting into the wind.
The psychological difference between policemen and the criminals they are supposed to "protect" us from is vanishingly small...and sometimes there is none.
Yes, there are some good ones, but once you are a part of the "brotherhood", they close ranks and you, as a citizen, are an outsider. Wake up!
+8 # crow 2014-07-10 00:48
Gelhaus is a gunnut known for his murderous braggadocio. More importantly, there are no studies available or forthcoming correlating the employment of veterans as policemen/swatt ers and statistical upticks in the "questionable" application of lethal force. At least not by any government agencies... Of course, the first hurdle would be vetting the word "questionable". Go figure. In a larger sense, these shooters and their war traumas are being downcycled to stop dissent dead in its tracks by instilling obedient terror in us all from the start. Pavlovian reflex meets target practice. For them it's just like war, you just file a report and you get your gun back. Exaggerated? Then why the blind eye? Do the study. Lastly, as a parent, I'd say it's more than ever a bad idea to let your kids walk down the street with anything that even remotely resembles a gun, especially in the "wrong neighborhood".
+5 # reo100 2014-07-10 03:44
Unfortunately, the USA has become nothing more than a "Police State" killing machine. I fear for my life and the life of every child. It's funny how my fears provide me no protection nor that of our children. Cops like Gelhaus are trigger happy cowards afraid of their own shadow. They have no respect for life or the life of our children.
+3 # skylinefirepest 2014-07-10 07:47
You guys know that I'm a rabid gun rights person...but I agree with at least parts of every comment here so far. The police are a "shoot first" entity now and it costs a lot of innocent people. Arq, I have to disagree with your two comments...firs t this was a kid and he wouldn't have cased a toy gun. Second I would think that if I were a cop stopping someone suspicious with a gun that mine would already be drawn. But as a veteran familiar with a wide range of firearms I have never seen a toy gun that so resemble a real gun that I couldn't tell the difference.
+2 # Jingze 2014-07-10 09:46
Americans do not respect life. It's that simple.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 11:09 PM

here are some more americans practicing democracy in the streets;

just the same as your CIA agents taught those galicians in kiev to practice democracy.

and then you taught those galicians to kill children in donbass.

??? is there nothing which you understand ???



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Posted 11 July 2014 - 12:11 AM

Police Taser Killed Miami Beach Teen Israel Hernandez, Confirms Medical Examiner (UPDATED)



A medical examiner has confirmed what killed a teenage artist who did not survive a controversial encounter with Miami Beach police: as first reported by the Miami Herald, it was the shock from an officer's Taser, which produced “sudden cardiac death."

The conclusion -- that a Taser is the primary cause of death -- is rare, and likely to stoke the ongoing debate over the safety of the devices and how they are used.

It also confirmed that 18-year-old Israel Hernandez, a graffiti artist known as "Reefa," was not on drugs that caused his body to overheat, as police had suggested after his death. According to the Herald, the toxicology report showed only marijuana in his system.

Hernandez died one early morning last August, shortly after Miami Beach police spotted him scrawling graffiti on an abandoned, paint-covered McDonald's. A foot chase ensued involving "more than half a dozen" officers, according to Miami New Times, and when Hernandez was cornered, Officer Jorge Mercado shocked him in the chest.

Two of Hernandez's friends who witnessed the incident told WSVN that officers shoved Hernandez against a wall, then high-fived as he lay motionless.

His death prompted Hernadez's family to file a lawsuit against the City of Miami Beach and its police, accusing officers of excessive force for their response to such a minor crime -- a second-degree misdemeanor that would not likely have resulted in prosecution.

"Officers had no reasonable basis to fear for their own safety or the safety of the public," the lawsuit reads. The suit also claims police training and supervision is inadequate to prevent excessive force, and that officers are not properly trained to give medical attention after the use of a Taser.

"We've been saying it for seven months. [The medical examiner's conclusion] is nothing new," Israel Hernandez, Sr. told the Herald. "My son didn't deserve the death penalty."

The company that makes Tasers has warned police agencies against stunning suspects in the chest, citing an "extremely" low risk of "adverse cardiac event," according to a report by the Arizona Republic. But according to Miami New Times, the Miami Beach Police Department only advises against intentionally striking subjects in the "eyes, groin or face."

An Amnesty International report from 2012 says some 500 people in the U.S. have died after being shocked with a Taser, though in nearly all cases the official cause of death cites something other than the weapon.

But disturbingly, three other men have died in recent weeks after being Tasered by Miami-area police. Reports New Times:

On February 5, 21-year-old barber Willie Sams died after Miami-Dade Police used a Taser on him during an altercation. The 21-year-old was in town visiting family from Georgia.

Three weeks later, two more men died on the same day following use of the device.

On February 27, 37-year-old Maykel Antonio Barrera died after MDPD shot him with a Taser. Hours later, backyard boxer Treon Johnson, 27, died after he was shocked by Hialeah Police.

Protestors have demanded the arrest of Mercado, who was previously accused of excessive force, among other troubling revelations from his police personnel file, and the case is under review by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement as well as Miami Beach Police and local prosecutors.

“We’re all parents, and our hearts go out to his family and all of his friends," Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle told the Herald. “We understand everyone is waiting for our final conclusion, and we will do it as quickly as humanly possible, without compromising, of course.”

UPDATE, 5:30 p.m.: A group of friends and concerned community members called Justice For Reefa have announced plans for a press conference Monday morning to demand the arrest of the officer who Tasered Israel Hernandez.

"The medical examiner's report is saying what we have known for seven months. Israel was killed by Jorge Mercado in violation of state law and Miami Beach policy," said Jorge Estomba, a Justice for Reefa committee member, in a statement. "And Israel's killer has neither spent a day in jail for his crime nor has he lost his job as a police officer. Everyday that goes by in which State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle does not arrest him, is a day in which justice is not served for the people of Miami."

The group plans to appear outside Fernandez Rundle's Miami office at 10:30 Monday morning.

Also on The Huffington Post
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Posted 11 July 2014 - 12:29 AM

here is another case of police in the USA setting an example for kiev and other dullards.

?is this ethnic hate crime against israel hernandez by the white anglo police?


more later;

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 04:39 PM

Obama makes another humanitarian catastrophe


this time in USA




Obama has become an expert in creating humanitarian disasters. He has already had this experience in Syria and Ukraine, and now it is time for the State of Texas.  The U.S. president, bypassing the Congress, amnestied ten million illegal immigrants, which contributed to the uncontrolled growth of the flow of migrants and sharply aggravated the situation in southern states. For this act, Obama may face impeachment.

The scandal broke out on Tuesday. Texas Governor Rick Perry dared not to meet the president, who came to Texas for an official visit. "I appreciate the offer to greet you at Austin-Bergstrom Airport, but a quick handshake on the tarmac will not allow for a thoughtful discussion regarding the humanitarian and national security crises enveloping the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas," Mr. Perry wrote to Obama earlier this week.

The governor expressed his concerns about the growing number of abandoned children, with whom one has to do something - to teach, to heal, to accommodate them. Two years ago, there were 2,500 homeless children reported, but this year the number is 52,000. Perry asked the president to strengthen border patrols, and have Predator drones and National Guard troops involved to monitor the border. In addition, the governor would like to see changes to the federal law that would allow quicker deportation of minors.

The problem is very serious, Alexander Petrov, a historian, Americanist, leading researcher at the Institute of World History believes. Together with immigrants, there is an illegal flow of drugs, weapons and prohibited stimulant drugs in the United States. Child immigration is a complex of problems associated with prostitution and child labor.

"Children's rights are violated, children live in appalling conditions. This is an additional hotbed of crime," said the expert. According to Alexander Petrov, the situation worsened due to the deteriorating economic performance in Mexico and other Central American countries. "We can now see quite a serious influx of immigration in states such as Florida, California, Texas, New Mexico. Texas is a donor state. It is no coincidence that many Texas residents voted for the Republican Party, and some of them even filed a petition for separation Texas from the federation."

Let's go back to Obama. In response to Perry's rant, Obama said on Wednesday said he would not go to the problematic territories to "see the humanitarian crisis," as does not think there is any. Such a trip would turn in a photo session, in which Obama is not interested. Instead, the president preferred to have a beer and play pool, the local press wrote. "This is not theater," he said, adding, "I'm interested in solving the problem."

Obama believes that the election race has started, as he called the Republican Congress to quickly approve the allocation of $3.7 billion for the additional funding of the State of Texas.

The scandal in Texas continued. Republican Sarah Palin, former governor of Alaska and candidate for Vice President of the United States in 2008, stated that it was time to impeach Obama. "It's time to impeach, and on behalf of American workers and legal immigrants of all backgrounds, we should vehemently oppose any politician on the left or right who would hesitate in voting for articles of impeachment," she wrote on Breitbart.Com. The crisis at the border is the last straw, she added. According to Palin, without borders there is no nation, and Obama knows it. "Opening borders to illegal immigrants was intentional. This is fundamental transformation America," she wrote.

Noteworthy, Palin is not the only one, who wants the impeachment of Obama. Many senators and members of the House of Representatives have expressed such an idea before too.

Many Americans also support the idea of ​​impeachment. According to surveys, about 60 percent of the population believe that the country is going in the wrong direction, and the U.S. political elite remains almost indifferent to their opinion. What are real chances for Obama's impeachment? Two-thirds of the U.S. Senate will have to vote for the removal of the President from office. There are very little chances that this will happen, Aaron Blake wrote for The Washington Post. If impeachment becomes a normal way of expressing dissatisfaction with the president, then every American president risks falling under the procedure. If this becomes a norm in Washington, the U.S. government will be even more inefficient than it is now, the journalist wrote.

Will the border be closed? "Closing the border is currently impossible, as it will come into conflict with the policy of imperial messianism, which the United States pursues in the world," Alexander Petrov told Pravda. Ru. "There will be additional leverage involved in terms of bureaucracy. There will be difficulties created in obtaining visas. It stipulates serious intellectual training to screen out the people who either don't speak English or don't represent the value associated with immigration," said the expert.

The conclusion is the following: the leader of the United States is preoccupied with  totally unnecessary questions of foreign policy, fueling wars away from the United States, and he does not follow the situation inside his country. Moreover, he does not even try to pretend that he is interested in it. In March, Texas announced an intention to secede from the United States, gaining supporters in the face of 29 states. In Texas, there is a belief that the territory of the republic was illegally annexed by Washington in 1845 and currently remains occupied. The movement of the Republic of Texas formed their own government, the judiciary system and law enforcement agencies. In addition, they periodically file large lawsuits against the U.S. government for "undermining the welfare of Texas."

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Posted Today, 01:07 PM

Legalizing The Conquest of America


NEW YORK – Mexico and Guatemala have reached an agreement that is intended to make it easier and safer for Central Americans, including unaccompanied minors, to enter the United States illegally.


Though largely unreported in the U.S. mainstream media, the two nations agreed on July 7, in a presidential-level meeting in Mexico, to make it legal and safe for Central American immigrants, including unaccompanied minors, to cross Mexico’s border with Guatemala and transit Mexico en route to the U.S. border at the Rio Grande.


The agreement apparently does not recognize that the result of such trips – entry into the United States – remains illegal.


But to facilitate the program, the Mexican government announced plans to issue a new “Regional Visitor Card” that will provide documentation for the Central Americans to remain in Mexico as long as it takes to get to the United States.


Under the auspices of a “Southern Border Program,” Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Guatemalan President Otto Pérez, in a meeting in Mexico, agreed to take five concrete steps designed to “protect and safeguard the human rights of migrants who enter and transit Mexico, so as to order international routes of passage [in and through Mexico] to increase and develop the security of the region.”


The five steps in Mexican “Southern Border Program” included the following action steps:

1. Mexico established for the Central American migrants transiting through Mexico a new Mexican-government issued “Regional Visitor Card” that instructs the Mexican National Institute of Migration to recognize the holder as having been granted by the Mexican government the right to a “temporary stay” in Mexico. The purpose of the “Regional Visitor Card” is to grant Central American migrants entering Mexico across the border with Guatemala enough time and legal status to complete their journey to the United States.


2. Mexico plans to open 10 new border crossing checkpoints on the border with Guatemala and two more on the border with Belize to function as “Comprehensive Care Centers for Border Transit,” designed to register the Central American migrants with Mexican immigration authorities and to issue “Regional Cards” as part of a formal government processing allowing migrants from Central America to transit into Mexico on an official basis.


3. Mexico has decided to expand throughout the country the five medical care units originally established in Chiapas to give medical aid and temporary shelter to Central American migrants transiting through Mexico, with special attention given to unaccompanied minors.


4. Mexico has decided to create a new “Office for the Coordination of Comprehensive Social Services for Migrants on the Southern Border” to be attached to the Ministry of the Interior, tasked with coordinating interagency Mexican government efforts to provide humanitarian care and assistance provided by the Mexican government to migrants crossing the border with Guatemala, so as to guarantee respect for the human rights of the migrants.


5. Mexico pledged to continue playing an active role working with international organizations to participate in conferences organized to promote legal immigration, including continued sponsorship of forums including Mexico’s National Conference on Migration.


In the spirit that migration of Central Americans from Guatemala through Mexico will be more secure if it is more formally organized, Peña Nieto announced Mexico’s new “Southern Border Program” was a step in the right direction.


Guatemalan President Otto Pérez noted the border between Guatemala and Mexico “offers an opportunity to show how we can improve the treatment of migrants and the relations between two peoples – Guatemalans and Mexicans – who have traditionally been brothers.”


Peña Nieto also explained that the governments of Mexico and Guatemala have been working in cooperation with authorities in El Salvador and Honduras “to work in the same direction to make Central American migration more organized and safer.”


Peña Nieto further announced that the Mexican Ministry of the Interior, working together with officials from Guatemala, will strengthen law enforcement intelligence gathering regarding Central American migrants to develop a technological platform to share in gathering the real-time biometric information believed essential for a formal registration process to issue the migrants appropriate Mexican government documentation for use in their transit across Mexico.


In announcing the agreement reached between Mexico and Guatemala, the national edition of El Universal released a video in which former prime minister of Greece, George Papandreou, gave a presentation in English (with Spanish subtitles).


Papandreou’s purpose appears to be to lecture the United States regarding the current flood of Central American immigrants, including unaccompanied minors, arriving in the U.S. daily, and illegally.


Papandreou encouraged the United States to extend the legal right to Central American immigrants to stay in the U.S., housing them in temporary shelters where they can receive secure and humane treatment while the United States creates for them a pathway to citizenship, as well as providing the right to seek employment and the opportunity to be reunited in the United States with their families.

The flood of illegal alien immigrants from Central America, especially children, has spiked in recent months, with tens of thousands flooding into the United States. The U.S. government already is transporting them to multiple other locations to house them.


Critics of the U.S. president say his announcement of a policy to defer deportation actions against children has sent a message to Central America that if children can reach the United States, they not only will face no punishment, but will be granted housing, medical, education and even legal benefits.


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 06:45 PM

Posted Today, 02:34 PM

My "minefield border" idea doesn't seem so crazy now, does it?

People trying to get into the US any other way besides border checkpoints and dying in their own bloody mud after their legs get blown off would be a strong deterrent to illegal immigration.

hey mandrake :::::::::::::


have you changed your opinions regarding immigration in the past thirty years ???


- vlad

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 08:34 PM

here is sopmeone who does not feel that MIGRATION is HUMAN;

it is the Kiev-Galician Neo-Nazi Gang which is killing children.



Posted Today, 02:41 PM

Ukraine urges Russia not to accept orphans fleeing war zones
Published time: July 13, 2014

The children’s rights ombudsman of Ukraine demanded Russia send back Ukrainian orphans who cross the border after evacuation from battle zones in the country’s east. The ombudsman accuses Russia of “kidnapping” and violation of children’s rights.

Valeria Lutkovskaya sent an open letter to the head of Russia’s border guards, Colonel General Vladimir Kulishov, demanding the passage of orphans leaving eastern Ukrainian war zones be prohibited. She also published the letter on her Facebook page.

Lutkovskaya accused Russia of violating the rights of Ukrainian orphan children, who are being admitted to Russia “without proper paperwork.”

She claimed that armed members of the resistance movement in the Donetsk region are forcing the directors of two orphanages “at gunpoint” to let children travel to Russia. The directors of both schools allegedly refused to prepare the proper documents.

Lutkovskaya said that according to her sources, plans were afoot to send 54 children from the Maryinka Educational Orphanage and 93 children from Educational Orphanage # 1 in Donetsk to Russia on Sunday morning.

Lutkovskaya called on General Kulishov to take “decisive measures” and prevent these children from crossing the Russian border.

“Considering the fact that both Russia and Ukraine have signed the UN convention of children’s rights, Article 11 of the convention obliges signatories to take measures against unlawful transportation of children abroad,” Lutkovskaya said.

In case children get to Russia, Lutkovskaya promised to regard the issue as “kidnapping” and would apply to international organizations to have the children returned.

At this point, there is no information on whether the children have started their journey to Russia, or if the buses transporting them have crossed the Russian border.

“Ukraine’s ombudsmen requests not to let orphans into Russia, probably thinking they'd be better off bombed,” tweeted Russia’s Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin.

The Russian children’s rights ombudsman, Pavel Astakhov, slammed his Ukrainian counterpart Lutkovskaya for “suddenly becoming aware of the fate of Ukrainian orphans in the combat zone… only to demand not to let them into Russia,” Astakhov wrote in Instagram.

“Obviously, she’s more concerned with this, instead of the children dying of shells and bullets from Kiev’s army,” he said.

A good deed for a true human rights defender would be “handcuffing herself to President Poroshenko to follow him until he stops the elimination of his own people,” Astakhov stressed, whereas “forbidding the escape of orphans forgotten under the crossfire is vile and inhuman.”

According to unconfirmed reports at least 11 children, one of them a mere five months old, died in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions since Kiev began the “anti-terrorist operation” against the supporters of federalization of Ukraine.

In the lack of humanitarian corridors denied by Kiev, for a number of orphanages the only way to escape the war zone is to Russia.

“There are over 90,000 orphans in Ukraine today and every day of civil war unleashed by Kiev politicians only multiplies the suffering, pain of losses and number of orphans,” Astakhov stressed, adding that “orphans should not be held hostage to military and political ambitions.”

Pavel Astakhov estimated the total number of Ukrainian children that have already fled to Russia as “over 22,000.” Out of this number there are at least 538 orphans.

There have been repeated reports of the Ukrainian army and national Guards shelling schools, kindergartens and orphanages over the last month.

The latest news from the Donetsk region, from which the children are being evacuated, suggests that Ukrainian troops are shelling three small cities: Ilovaisk, Seversk and Maryinka, the latter suffering a particularly heavy assault.

Maryinka is exactly the city from which 54 orphaned children have just been evacuated, to gain a safe haven in Russia.

30 civilians were killed on Saturday by pro-Kiev military forces in overnight shelling on Maryinka, a town near Donetsk, in southeastern Ukraine. There is also, as yet, unconfirmed reports that the Maryinka orphanage building has been destroyed.

In the neighboring city of Lugansk, six civilians died on Saturday in shelling by Kiev’s troops and eight more were taken to hospital.

The Sails of Hope orphanage was severely damaged by artillery fire in the city of Slavyansk in eastern Ukraine in late May. Fortunately, there were no casualties among the children, all of whom were successfully evacuated from the building on May 19.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 11:00 PM

this is a copy of an article on the internet



I draw but one conclusion: Barack Obama is intentionally using the immigration crisis as an excuse to change the demographics and ultimately the electorate of this nation.

The latest: a Trojan horse adding to a long line of scandals, screw ups, shocking stupidity, or maybe shocking shrewdness. Yes, a Trojan horse using children to advance his political party, his agenda and his legacy. As coyotes – human smugglers hired to bring children into the United States – deliver them by the thousands with the help of Mexico - a public health danger, a law enforcement nightmare and yet another tax burden is created, courtesy of Barack Obama.

Now you say, "Come on, these are babies!  This is a humanitarian crisis." And I say, "We all love babies, but most of the 'babies' coming here are between the ages of 14 and 17, and three-quarters of those 14 to 17 year olds are males." So much for that image of Border Patrol spending all their time changing diapers. And I've got more bad news for you: gang signs located at the holding facilities entice those male teens to join MS-13, one of the most violent gangs in the world.

And, it's no surprise. Three weeks ago, I told you what was happening:

"It is the Obama administration knowingly creating a public health time bomb by sending tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children across the country with potentially dangerous infectious diseases?"

And now reports confirm scabies, a flesh eating mite, tuberculosis, chicken pox, lice, foot and mouth disease, strep throat, as well as sexually transmitted diseases.

And here's the good news - you ready? Our most transparent administration is shipping these kids into your state and your town with no notice, under the cover of darkness, hoping you won't notice, as happened in Murietta, Calif.

This is how it works.  Each child is given a form – one easily duplicated, by the way – and according to Border Patrol, they board buses and planes – the same commercial ones that you use for your travel – courtesy of, yes, your checkbook. Once dropped off with virtually no supervision, they walk off.

Border Patrol agents and health care workers report there is no testing for vaccinations or tuberculosis and say they've been threatened with arrest if they discuss the contagious diseases. They can't take their phones into these centers for fear that they might take a picture.

So why are these kids coming here? The president says this influx is a result of the desperation and the violence that exists in Central American countries. But do we even know if these kids are from Central America when in 2012, the United Nations reported individuals from terror-prone Somalia were traveling to Central America to illegally enter the United States.

So far this year, almost 60,000 have entered illegally. No country in the world would allow its border to be infiltrated by people without identification who haven't even been screened. 

And what is the president doing to stop this, you ask?  Nothing.

And who is facilitating the flow of this more than 1,700-mile trek?  None other than our neighbor, Mexico. Now, you may recall then-President Felipe Calderon lecturing Congress a few years back, telling us:

"My government does not favor the breaking of the rules. I fully respect the right of any country to enact and enforce its own laws."

But then went on to say that he didn't agree with the Arizona law that was just passed to which and for which, he then received a standing ovation.  And guess who is shipping these kids on trains illegally in violation of our laws that they so-called respect to infiltrate our border?  Mexico!  For sure these kids are not paying for that transportation as they ride on trains through Mexico. So, who gives Mexico the right to ship them to us?  Why aren't they keeping them or housing them?  Why aren't they sending them back?

And by the way, you go into Mexico illegally and see how fast your butt lands in jail!

Our president told us that our borders were secure as he ridiculed those who said it wasn't:

"You know, they said we needed to triple the Border Patrol, or now they're gonna say we need to quadruple the Border Patrol, or they'll want a higher fence, maybe they'll need a moat. Maybe they'll want alligators in the moat."

Funny, but you really didn't expect the truth from him, did you?

In 2012, it was Barack Obama who instituted his own program that deferred deportation for kids who entered the nation illegally as long as they went to school or joined the military. And the blame is squarely on Barack Obama because in 2011, there were 6,500 kids crossing. Then he had this program that he trumpets and in 2013, after his program, 25,000. This year, the projection: 90,000. And next year, the projection: 145,000. That's almost a quarter of a million kids in two years, equal to the population of Orlando, Fla. And strap in folks. Multiply that by six or eight because now their parents can come with them!  After all, these families deserve to be whole!


Any American parent who hands his kid off to a coyote - that human trafficker - to be taken 1,700 miles - would be thrown in jail in this country for child abuse!

And don't be fooled by this administration saying they're going to send them back. The average deportation time is five years!  But that's only after we pay for advocates, translators, lawyers, judges, housing, food, health care, education, medication, and at the end, statistics tell us that 90 percent are released anyway.

So this week, President Obama refused to go to the border to see the crisis he created. Instead, he'd rather run off to a golf course or play pool. And in true Obama fashion, he wants $4 billion of our dollars to fix this, only 2 percent, by the way, of which would go to close the border.

And since nothing is his fault, he says that if only those Republicans and the Texas delegation would work with him, this could be solved. With all due respect, Mr. President, you created this mess, now you fix it!  You invited them in, now you solve it! Take that pen and that phone of yours, and make it right. 

The first order of government is the protection of its people.  Do you really think that the drug cartels and gang bangers and even terrorists aren't taking advantage of this migration through our wide open border?

Mr. President, there's a reason we think you're the worst president in recent history.  We don't trust you. We don't believe you. We don't think you're capable of leading the country.

Illegally entering the United States is not a right to citizenship. 

And don't tell us we're heartless because we believe in the rule of law, which is the foundation upon which our country was founded. 

Now, how many American children won't be able to go to school because these kids, many with communicable diseases, are in our classrooms?

The American people want answers from you, Mr. President.

How do you know who's from Central America and who isn't? What measures are you taking to identify diseases? How many of these teens have criminal records? Are you screening them for gang tattoos and gang affiliations? What measures are you taking to make sure that these kids are not sexually assaulted? And why are you not deploying the National Guard to the Texas-Mexico border to stop what you know is coming? Why is our Border Patrol 45 miles from the border?  Once they enter this country, they're accorded constitutional rights. Why aren't you kicking them back into Mexico at the border? And why aren't you closing our border?

Why? Because you have no regard for the law. You have no regard for the American people. You don't even have regard enough to see those kids who are crossing, kind of like that night when you went to bed during the Benghazi massacre and woke to fire up Air Force One to go to yet another fundraiser.

Yes - I draw but one conclusion: it's all a Trojan horse.  You remember, the Trojans naively accepted that gift horse. It didn't work out so well for them, did it? Let's pray it works out OK for us.

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hey out there does anyone know how to enlarge this image



tell me about it;

- vlad




hey and by the waaay ::::::::::::::


does any body know where this migration started;


was it here --- was it them -- ??????

are these people the BIG migration from over there.

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 09:23 PM

this is a very trickey title; if you do not understand, don't worry. the only issue to understand is what can be done with this migration issue.




Rick Perry and Sean Hannity in a boat. (photo: The New Yorker)


Sight of Rick Perry at Border Convinces Immigrants That Anyone Can Succeed in America

By Andy Borowitz, The New Yorker

14 July 14


The article below is satire. Andy Borowitz is an American comedian and New York Times-bestselling author who satirizes the news for his column, "The Borowitz Report."

rsn-A.jpg recent tour of the United States-Mexico border by Texas Governor Rick Perry has had the unintended consequence of convincing thousands of immigrants that anyone can succeed in America.

After Gov. Perry and the Fox News host Sean Hannity toured the Rio Grande on Thursday, news quickly spread that the two men were actually among the most powerful in America, fueling the immigrants’ impression that the U.S. is a place where anyone can make it.

“When we learned that these two men were the governor of a large state and a top broadcaster from a major news network, it seemed too incredible to be true,” said an immigrant from Honduras, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “We all said to ourselves, if those two can succeed in America, imagine the wondrous things we might achieve.”

According to a border official, immigration at the border shot up eighty per cent since the appearance by the two men, and the situation could get even worse. “There’s a rumor that Rand Paul plans to visit,” the official said.


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 10:46 PM

this article is very well researched and written regardless of the opinion.


this article ignores the simplicity of the fact that MIGRATION is HUMAN.


Posted Yesterday, 09:30 AM

Why Did Obama Open the Borders and Expose America to Egregious Dangers?

Can you name even one thing that this president has done to improve the lives of the working class and middle class in this country? Can you at least name one thing? …

There is nothing that Obama has done to improve the lives of the citizens of our country, except for pandering to the super elite.  

(Z: Banking oligarchy, including insurance industry)

Once you wrap your mind around the fact that Obama has never been about helping the American people, one has to ask, what is he truly up to?

(Answer)  President Obama is doing his best to undermine this country, its values and ultimately its sovereignty.

What Obama is referring to in particular with regard to fixing the immigration issue and he wants to do it totally on his own terms, which is to legitimize the present invasion of the United States. Senate Bill 744, passed in the Senate in June of 2013,  then stalled in the House of Representatives. Therefore, Obama has vowed to “fix” this problem in his own way.
The Obama Agenda

One has to look no further than S. 744, sponsored by John McCain at the behest of President Obama, to realize that the passage of this bill would have meant the end of a sovereign America. And now, Obama is promising to accomplish the same with the stroke of his Executive Order (EO) pen. Just what will that mean for the American people when Obama takes the law into his hands?

Perhaps America’s greatest domestic strength lies in taking in immigrants and assimilating them into our country as Americans. However, what Obama wants and is in the midst of doing is nowhere near what we bargained for as a nation. There are two groups who have repeatedly called for the seizure of several states and make them into an independent country, and these two groups are La Raza and MEChA. The concept of Aztlan has been sanctioned by the UN. This is the same UN that is transporting military grade vehicles within the United States.

These groups have historically taught that Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State make up an area known as “Aztlan”, a fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America.

MEChA’s  founding principles are contained in these words in “El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan” (The Spiritual Plan for Aztlan):

“In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny. … Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. … We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada. Chicano is our identity; it defines who we are as people. It rejects the notion that we…should assimilate into the Anglo-American melting pot…Aztlan was the legendary homeland of the Aztecas … It became synonymous with the vast territories of the Southwest, brutally stolen from a Mexican people marginalized and betrayed by the hostile custodians of the Manifest Destiny.” (Statement on University of Oregon MEChA Website, Jan. 3, 2006).

Miguel Perez of the Cal State-Northridge’s MEChA chapter stated: “The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power.”

The National Council of La Raza and its allies in public office make no repudiation of the radical MEChA and its positions. As recently as 2003, La Raza was actively funding MEChA, according to federal tax records. However, since La Raza began to receive federal funds, La Raza has adopted a less militant stand, at least publicly, where they say that they no longer support Reconquista de Aztlan. However, when one examines where proposed federal money was designed to go, under S. 744, and to go in the pockets of La Raza and MEChA, it is impossible to believe that at its core, La Raza does not truly support the concept of Aztlan.


When Obama Says He Will Take Immigration Matters Into His Own Hands, This Is What He Is Talking About

By Executive Order, I expect to see in the very near future the following provisions since S. 744 failed in the House of Representatives and these are the relevant positions:

1. Any law enforcement stop of a vehicle to demand proof of citizenship for anyone “appearing” to be Latino, would be breaking the law. For all vehicles coming out of Mexico, this could prove quite the boost for the Hamas, MS-13, HSBC/Wells Fargo/Bank of America/JP Morgan/Los Zetas, Sinolas drug operations because busting large shipments of drugs inside of large trucks would all but stop if the border was secure. S. 744 attempted to keep the border open permanently. No, Obama will do it by EO.

Further, this means the end of the southern border to this country. This is a back door way into the implementation of the North American Union.


2. DHS is tasked with searching for and collecting evidence which could support a charge of racial profiling. What Border Patrol officer will risk losing their job and freedom under these extreme circumstances?


3. The DHS investigation into possible “profiling violations,” will result in triggering the Attorney General into deciding on new guidelines to accommodate the law. In other words, Eric Holder, the father of Fast and Furious which shipped guns to the Mexican drug cartels (e..g. Sinola’s) in order to undermine the Second Amendment, will get to make up the immigration rules as he sees fit and he will be the decider on who gets into the country and who gets punished for enforcing the sanctity of our borders.


4. Prior bad acts cannot be used to disqualify one from coming into the country. For example, illegal aliens will be allowed up to two DUI’s before immigration officials can disqualify a border crosser from staying in the country and becoming a citizen. After reading the bill, I could not determine if a DUI resulting in death, would disqualify the illegal alien still be eligible for citizenship. This explains why we are watching the federal government turn a blind eye to MS-13, complete with its terrorist, drug cartel and money laundering ties, from coming into the country.


All other countries maintain immigration laws to keep people out of the country. This failed bill and Obama’s future EO actions will prevent government officials from keeping anyone out of the country.


As if this is not bad enough, this is just the beginning. The immigration bill contained slush funds which will be used to literally and figuratively to divide and conquer the United States. What is contained in this bill is criminal and treason is not a strong enough word to describe this bill..


Under S. 744, there was a secret $300 million dollar slush fund which is earmarked for the pro-immigration group La Raza. This explains why they have softened their rhetoric. The National Council of La Raza, whose former senior official helped draft the so-called bi-partisan Gang of Eight Senate Bill, is in line to collect hundreds of millions of taxpayer money under the more obscure provisions in S. 744.  Obama has allocated $4 billion dollars to go to the border and nobody is saying exactly what the money will be spent for. We might now have our answer.


S. 744 even provided a sizable slush fund for extreme left wing groups in the immigrant serving, advocacy and lobbying business. La Raza asserts that the states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and even Colorado as well as parts of Nevada should be separated from the United States and become a separate country as the nightmare of Palestine comes to the Southwest. This is an outgrowth of the radical and treasonous views of Reconquista de Atzlan. This is treason and the authors of these provisions of S. 744 should be tried, convicted and imprisoned for treason.


Obama has refused to allow the Border Patrol to bring in personnel capable of providing proper health screenings which would take up to 3 weeks per person. By the way, the incubation period for Ebola is 21 days.

It is also now clear why we are admitting gangsters with terrorist affiliations into our country. I can conclude that Obama is actively participating in Reconquista de Aztlan. If he wasn’t, he would not have advocated for special funding for La Raza and MEChA? He would also close down the border given the circumstances of this new wave of illegal immigrants if he was serious about protecting the United States. Many of these immigrants (MS-13) are clearly seeking to do harm to Americans, not just find a job and assimilate.

Here Comes the Race Card

Because I oppose totally open borders while ignoring the obvious consequences, I am a racist. Because I support ORDERLY and legal immigration, I am a racist. Because I want to preserve as much of America as we can and save it from the clutches of such groups Los Zetas and the Sinoloa cartels who launder money in American banks, I am a racist.

I am such a racist that, to date, I have raised $27,000 dollars for the legal defense fund of a five year old boy named Dylan Wesolowski Rodriguez from the improper and illegal seizing of this boy from his mother Monika, by the Virginia CPS. People can take the race card and stuff in their back pocket. This issue is not about race, it is about what people, with what backgrounds, with what goals are we letting into our country.

Pride in one’s own culture and heritage is admirable. The obliteration of national boundaries through illegal activities and the use force is quite another. Yet, this is what Obama is clearly working towards.


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With half of the population now making less than $27,520 per year, America is hurting and the middle class is dying. The present immigration disaster will not help matters for those who are struggling financially.

As one patriot in Murrieta recently noted, "If somebody brought six children to your house and you ain't got no job, are you going to take them in?… Are you going to try to find out where they came from? Are you going to try to send them back?… What are we going to do for the people who are here who are starving already?…Why would we add to the problem?"This young patriot might change his tune if those six kids brought him a big government check. Hopefully he would not, but that is not the point. Someone has to pay for all of this.

It goes without saying that the promise of over $72,000 a year, for taking in some illegal immigrant kids, is a seriously tempting carrot being dangled in front of a population of starving rabbits.

This is a classified ad, which obviously lacks details, and the $6,054 offer will certainly only be available upon meeting certain requirements. In this case it involves taking in six children and having a large enough house to do so.

Ben Swann reports:

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As if America didn't have enough reasons to be angry already. Now the federal government is paying $854 to $1008 per month/per child to pay for the care of these illegal immigrants while refusing to secure the border and send these kids home. There will be other taxpayer funded benefits on top of that like medical care.

This money is coming from the taxpayers and we simply can not afford it.

There has been a lot of talk about the diseases that these kids are carrying and the undue financial stress this puts upon the system.However, there is another problem that very few are talking about.Do you remember the story of Monika Weselowski and her son Dylan? Dylan was taken by the state under false pretenses and put into a home where he allegedly suffered sexual abuse.Let's not forget about this sex trafficking angle which is not being discussed much in the media. A lot of this money will go from your pocket and eventually into the hands of perverts, pimps and traffickers who will ultimately be responsible for the sexual abuse of these children.

The ad ironically mentions "human trafficking." This is real and it may be pulling on the heart strings of some, but they are also making the deviants line up to collect their free government money for preying upon young children.

It is a pervert's dream. They are actually getting paid to molest kids and you and I are financing it.

Wake up America!

It's time to get angry.


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Benswann.com called Crittenton FFA, which is located in Orange County and provides services for Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services, and found that for those willing to a take in a child under the age of 16, you can receive up to $854.00 tax free per month. For those taking in a child over 16, the total is $1,008.00 per month in reimbursement. If you have a 5 bedroom house and can take in as many as 6 children, you can receive reimbursement of up to $6,054.00 per month tax free.

As for who is paying for all of this? We were told that for normal foster services, the reimbursement is provided by a series of state and local grantsbut in the case of the "unaccompanied refugee minors", 100% of the reimbursement will come from the federal government.

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 10:03 AM

Yep, Migration is human. More Paki and Khazak Taliban should immigrate to Moscow.
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Posted 17 July 2014 - 09:17 PM

Yep, Migration is human. More Paki and Khazak Taliban should immigrate to Moscow.

And to St.Peter, after all ''Russia is more than Nation/Narod.... :) ...

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 11:03 PM

Yep, Migration is human. More Paki and Khazak Taliban should immigrate to Moscow.


hey mandrake :::


you do understand that moscow never claimed to be the most perfect place for everyone; that was our good old USA where ronald regan wanted to trickel down on everyone.


take down that wall mr. mandrake

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