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#1 bishadi

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 01:37 AM


An article on Obama to address the Arab league on ISIS represented a concept of caliph and caliphate and what the ISIS people are calling for.

Not a single muslim country agrees on what 'caliph' and caliphate, Mahdi, messiah, etc etc etc... even is.

The sunni and Shiite are so far apart, is it like catholics and protestants and ISIS is not supporting 'caliphate' (Mahdi).

The definitions are a mess in the media.
So let's do the Pravda on the subject matter and evidence it up, if any disagree.



"caliphate is 'messiah', in islam.
Jesus didn't finish the job as messiah and why he is supposed to come back.
Muhammad wasn't caliph/Mahdi
jews are still waiting
The world has 3 core religions from the Abrahamic chain:
1 is called Judaism which expect messiah to show up. As a part of israel and the temple where the al aqsa is (gold dome of Jerusalem). See red heifer atonement sacrifice. (basically, about now)
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The second is Christianity, which expects some 'anti-christ' that apparently educates that all of mankind are living on carbon. C -12 chemically is 6-6-6 (protons, neutrons, electrons). But expect the other half to be a good guy, enabling people to think and wipe the ignorance off the map.
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The 3rd is Islam, which combined them while retaining the prophetic aspect, that '1 day, the truth will come' and some big war with 'fire from the sky' (sounds like nuke kind of resolve)
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Basically, the wingnuts of the islame beliefs are each adhering to the same concept that 'someone' is coming to shake up this taco stand.
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I suggest pay attention to see if life is being defined to the letter (the name). For example: since each of us are living on 666 (carbon), then to comprehend what the 'life' of mass itself is, unfolds what 'we' are within nature; light.
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Light itself, is electromagnetic (electric and magnetic fields in perpendicular planes (faraday/maxell), which so happens to be natures perfect cross. Weird aint it? As the old writers had no idea what 'light' was.
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.I bet any value that you can think of, that the name of god is the math defining the process of nature, to the letter. (theorem to enable the comprehension of the process). Stupid easy.
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The question to ask yourself: "If existence, only operates 1 way, is the math 'the name' to know?"
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Ask your favorite professor, rabbi, perhaps your doctor, that very question and reason it out with them. 'If we live within existence, then defining it, to the letter makes sense?!?!" The logic will fall into place: mankind is defining itself. That pinnacle is 'the name' as then all things (natural) can be understood and it be true, to the letter."



To comprehend the above can assist anyone in putting both feet flat on the ground..... as for Obama getting support, oh brother.
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Posted 10 September 2014 - 05:32 AM

666 is six hundred sixty six, a human number or a number of a man. It has absolutely nothing to do with chemistry, you nincompoop. It is naught but ancient hogwash, same as with all such texts revered by Jews, Christians and Muslims.


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:00 AM

Thank You, Bishadi for noticing that so many believe in some sort of Armageddon and a magical coming.

 

All those who buy into that stuff are locked into Talmudic doctrines and futurism that stops them from coming into the fullness of life in the here and now.

 

The Word of nature's God, does not support our egoic manias.  It seeks to destroy our reasoning minds filled with society's lies, and replace it with the Logic of Life, Joy, Pleasure, Truth, Mercy and Faith. Romans 12:1-2

 

But Christians imagine they are saved as they are with their social egos performing "reasonable service".

 

Revelation 16 tells us that Armageddon is the will of evil unclean people, not God.

 

History tells us that Christ came as He said He would, (70A.D.) and ever since, it's been up to us to conform ourselves with the Logic of the universe, but, we seem to prefer the logic of those who murdered the Perfect Man.


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 01:54 PM

666 is six hundred sixty six, a human number or a number of a man.

all man, lives on carbon and by you personally being aware of it, means it is NOW branded upon your head.

and absolutely nothing that you can do about it.

It has absolutely nothing to do with chemistry, you nincompoop.


is it a birth. June 1966 (6/66) perhaps?

It is naught but ancient hogwash, same as with all such texts revered by Jews, Christians and Muslims.

1 minute you bark, because the equal measure to chemistry don't fit the hogwash, but you don't do hogwash, either way?


basically you had no reason to post
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Posted 10 September 2014 - 02:17 PM

Thank You, Bishadi for noticing that so many believe in some sort of Armageddon and a magical coming.


nothing magical, that's for sure.
The war over the hill (al aqsa) is that per se Armageddon as far as I can tell.

All those who buy into that stuff are locked into Talmudic doctrines and futurism that stops them from coming into the fullness of life in the here and now.


John 14 is a per se quote from Jesus, talking about 'some futurism'
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god knows, it aint magical spirits doing any talking

"15 `If ye love me, my commands keep,

16 and I will ask the Father, and another Comforter He will give to you, that he may remain with you -- to the age;

17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world is not able to receive, because it doth not behold him, nor know him, and ye know him, because he doth remain with you, and shall be in you.
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kind of like the follow up....."20 in that day ye shall know that I [am] in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you;"



.ie....... 'in that day'

Back then, they had no idea because jesus was not the guy with 'the name'....... but reading comprehension has been an issue with the 'I van'.


 

The Word of nature's God, does not support our egoic manias.

I agree. The fools that claim that Jesus messiah are too selfish to check themselves.

I suggest that each actually read the material

seeks to destroy our reasoning minds filled with society's lies,

I agree...... the fool likes the claims of preachers versus being honest with themselves. For example: Did jesus represent what life is, to the letter? No, he didn't because the knowledge had not evolved to such a level, and magic is not an option.




Revelation 16 tells us that Armageddon is the will of evil unclean people, not God.


people that will lie to others and themselves are unclean borderline evil.

History tells us that Christ came as He said He would,

there is that unclean, evil; the lie

(70A.D.) and ever since, it's been up to us to conform ourselves with the Logic of the universe, but, we seem to prefer the logic of those who murdered the Perfect Man.


no such thing as a perfect man.

If jesus was perfect, there would be no more wars................... and each person would already be aware of what they are as a life within nature.

Why would you misrepresent jesus?

mark 10:17 And as he is going forth into the way, one having run and having kneeled to him, was questioning him, `Good teacher, what may I do, that life age-during I may inherit?'

18 And Jesus said to him, `Why me dost thou call good? no one [is] good except One -- God;

19 the commands thou hast known: Thou mayest not commit adultery, Thou mayest do no murder, Thou mayest not steal, Thou mayest not bear false witness, Thou mayest not defraud, Honour thy father and mother.'
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If you are against jesus, truth and reality, you are riding the lying "I van"
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#6 Zharkov

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 04:14 PM

Surely it must be a coincidence that the Bible says 666 is the number of man, and Carbon 12 has 6 electrons, 6 neutrons, and 6 protons?    How could anyone know this a thousand year ago?

 

Nobody in that era knew of atomic structure

There is only one way they could have known the number.   They were told by someone.


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#7 bishadi

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 10:24 PM

Surely it must be a coincidence that the Bible says 666 is the number of man, and Carbon 12 has 6 electrons, 6 neutrons, and 6 protons?


all man.

At least it is not unique, being that it does, in fact apply to all man.

How could anyone know this a thousand year ago?

deja vu

The property of light that is called entanglement, is how. The life of then, is alive today, to see it. ie... procreations thru the generations, are the lives of then and today, still alive.

Conscious awareness is not 'life'. ie... sleeping


Nobody in that era knew of atomic structure

agreed.
They didn't even know the round earth or how to check for a heart beat to declare a person 'dead'.

Glad mankind knows more, that all the gawds combined. You?


There is only one way they could have known the number.   They were told by someone.


Who?

Did jesus, moses, a gabby angle (not quite an angel) or is did zeus send a memo on a lightning bolt, before wireless even existed?

I don't think the gods were as capable as man is today. Man can to talk with magic machines (laptops) and cell phones, even when on Mt Olympus, any day of the week. I bet no gawd ever did that.

And no one ever before shared that entanglement is how consciousness, deja vu and even prophecies exist, in words?
Heck, words entangle mass. ie.... you'll read and it will cause an action, no matter the time and space.

The problem is, few know the Pravda, except to rant that the unknown phenomena is by a gawd.

Nature is god itself. Man evolved from the life of nature. Man created the word and is defining 'itself' consciously. The word transcends time and the next generations pick up from the previous (standing on the shoulders of giants).


It's pretty basic, but then the folk that have been lied too, don't believe it.
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Posted 10 September 2014 - 11:19 PM

666 is six hundred sixty six, a human number or a number of a man. It has absolutely nothing to do with chemistry, you nincompoop. It is naught but ancient hogwash, same as with all such texts revered by Jews, Christians and Muslims.

 

hey desther :::::::::::::

 

? have you ever found any so called religious writtings which you liked ? and ? have you ever found any other philosophical type writtings which you liked ?

 

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 11:52 PM

Muslim Brotherhood Front Group Leader Engages in Taqiyya: ~~~~~~~ “Islamic State” is “Anti-Islamic”
 

The leader of perhaps the most prominent stealth jihadist organization in the U.S., which is connected to Hamas, Nihad Awad has been given a platform by TIME Magazine to prevent people from connecting his group to ISIS. Unfortunately for Awad, he may have been better off remaining silent.

 

Right out of the gate, he asserts that the group known as the Islamic State (ISIS) is anti-Islamic, despite its fighting in the name of Islam.

At issue for Awad is that as the atrocities committed by ISIS continue to dominate news headlines in the U.S., Americans are increasingly suspicious of Islam itself. He writes:

Despite misappropriating and misusing the name "Islamic State," ISIS is little more than a criminal gang that attaches itself like a leech to revered symbols of Islam. It exploits counterproductive Western policies driving desperate people into its fold and uses injustices in the Muslim world as a smokescreen to cover its own cruelty.

When ISIS uses the Islamic declaration of faith, the Shahada, and the Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) seal on its flag, it quite literally – and falsely – claims to uphold the banner of Islam. When ISIS says it is establishing a "Caliphate," an historic term that resonates with Muslims worldwide, it does so to fool those who have experienced nothing but injustice and oppression into believing past glories will be restored.

Unfortunately, the media, political analysts and public officials – really all of us – are unwilling participants in ISIS's public relations branding campaign.

Every time we refer to ISIS as the "Islamic State," call its members "jihadists" or in any way grant it the religious legitimacy that it so desperately seeks, we simultaneously boost its brand, tarnish the image of Islam and further marginalize the vast majority of Muslims who are disgusted by the group's un-Islamic actions.

Awad then amazingly invokes the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to help make his point:

The Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the "Muslim U.N.," said ISIS has "nothing to do with Islam," and has committed crimes "that cannot be tolerated."

As Shoebat.com has reported on at some length, the OIC backs the "Istanbul Process," which seeks to eliminate any and all criticism of Islam. Not only is Awad criticizing a group that calls itself the "Islamic State" and flies flags that express praise for Allah but he points out that OIC is criticizing the "Islamic State" as well.

Perhaps an even more stunning admission from Awad came when he suggested that the U.S. should have supported the Free Syrian Army (FSA) in order to prevent the rise of ISIS:

There would be no ISIS in Syria if we had fully supported the struggle for freedom in that nation since 2011. It was only the political vacuum created by our lack of support for the mainstream opposition to the brutal Syrian regime, and the resulting slaughter of more than 200,000 people and the displacement of millions more, which gave ISIS space to form and grow.

We need to support the mainstream Syrian political and military opposition seeking freedom and democracy. A free and democratic Syria and region is the long-term guarantee for the defeat and marginalization of groups like ISIS.

Again, stunning. This necessarily means that the leader of a Muslim Brotherhood front group – Awad – was and is calling for the U.S. to support the same FSA that political leaders told us all was moderate. Last year, Shoebat.com reported that by calling for the Obama administration to take out Bashar al-Assad, U.S. politicians like John McCain and so-called political 'experts' like Karl Rove were siding with the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria.

Does not Awad's call for the same thing prove it?

Check out this list of prominent people who agreed with Awad about who the U.S. should support in Syria.

 

One of the groups that has successfully lobbied Congress for opposition relief in Syria has been the Syrian Emergency Task Force (SETF). That group's former Political Director – Elizabeth O'Bagy – was hired by McCain after a major conflict of interest was unearthed about her last year.

A man who sits on the board of SETF is Bassam Estwani, the former chairman of the notorious Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, VA. During Estwani's tenure there, no fewer than two 9/11 hijackers visited his mosque, an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was hired and Anwar al-Awlaki served as an imam there.

Estwani, Awad, Rove, and McCain are all aligned when it came to how to deal with Syria.

Any time Islamic terror groups attract attention, stealth jihadists in the U.S. get nervous because the spotlight inches ever closer to them. This is precisely what was done with the Bush administration after 9/11. The stealth jihadists like Awad were extremely proactive in using Grover Norquist and Suhail Khan to gain access to the Oval Office. They even got Bush to speak at the Islamic Center in Washington, DC just six days after 9/11 to tell everyone how peaceful Islam is.

Bin Laden had to be thrown under the bus by stealth jihadists when supporting him became too politically radioactive. Awad's missive comes at a time when ISIS is as well. This is quintessential Muruna, which is a Sunni Islamic tactic championed by Muslim Brotherhood spiritual leader Yusuf al-Qaradawi that allows for the Muslims killing Muslims if there is a greater perceived good.

Learn all about Muruna in the book from Walid Shoebat, The Case FOR ISLAMOPHOBIA: Jihad by the Word; America's Final Warning.

As Shoebat.com has reported previously, Estwani is a student of al-Qaradawi.

Rove, the same guy who essentially expressed solidarity with Awad on the issue of Syria courtesy of his call for Obama to attack Assad last year and Awad's expressed support for the same opposition such an attack would have assisted, was a key facilitator of that Bush strategy and either has not learned from his mistake then or more likely can't make the admission for fear of what it would mean.

Here is Bush speaking at the Islamic Center of Washington mosque just six days after 9/11. Awad is standing directly behind him:

 

This further demonstrates that


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Posted 11 September 2014 - 01:49 AM

Who?

Did jesus, moses, a gabby angle (not quite an angel) or is did zeus send a memo on a lightning bolt, before wireless even existed?

 

A question worth exploring.  

 

As the knowledge of modern chemistry did not exist, and descriptive language was therefore limited, the number of man or 666 is perhaps one of the few ways to alert future generations of humans that someone knew one of the basic details of life long before any human would understand what that meant.  

 

But who?    

 

Ancient Sumerians had numbered the planets in reverse from how we number them today, so that the planet farthest from the Sun would be their #1 planet.   Why this system?   This method of numbering can be explained if one counts planets from outside the solar system.   Sumerian drawings of planets also showed the rings around Saturn, long before any telescope was invented to view them.

 

How could they know?

 

It is a mystery.    One can speculate that earth once had advanced civilizations with modern technology that had been destroyed in atomic war, leaving few survivors with word-of-mouth narrative of technologies long lost, or perhaps we are descedants of alien experiments conducted long ago.  

 

There is an explanation that today does not exist.  


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#11 bishadi

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 03:49 PM

hey desther :::::::::::::
 
? have you ever found any so called religious writtings which you liked ? and ? have you ever found any other philosophical type writtings which you liked ?
 
vlad


ask him that question after he reads your own personal thread.

A Complaint; F'uck vladimr budney

http://engforum.prav...y/#entry2508890

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it includes items like

"I was kicking his arse all over the forum - he stalked me - but the Mod's had to save him by deleting my posts and giving me little red stickies while leaving his nonsense and offensive posts and rewarding him with feel-good little greenie stickers.



He seems proud of the fact that he's been kicked off heaps of forums - shit, i'd be embarrassed by an admission like that.



Now, i just ignore him; he's not there
"


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#12 bishadi

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 03:59 PM

On the Washington times site, there is a question:
 

Bishadi > womanofthecave • 28 minutes ago.





I'll address the first question.
Why do some say, from the line of DAVID?
serkumsized... is one answer (from within the branch of; set of paradigm/comprehension).
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Then please observe a Metaphorical rendition of the story of David and Goliath. The 1 eyed monster being a sustained bias of the lie. As a 1 eyed Giant there is a hugenormous tree of beliefs (paradigm). Truth being the single blow to the head to bring down the beast; change in perspective.
So a person is born, that is from within the 3 horns (3 religions of Abraham); Western, and has the stone.
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The mess of a man:
As naturally as it gets, a life grows up within the system (west) and combines enough to realize what IS REAL. But to comprehend as that first can cause a mess (confusion) to most any mind.
Yet, by choice, not as a 'chosen' by anyone, a mind just does what much of mankind has been doing, since becoming consciously aware; learning, writing and sharing. Literally grounded to what is real; 'the name'. ie... math (universal language) defining the transition of mass/energy/time, that is actually correct, is to name existence itself; the name of .....g-d.... (to bridge the concepts)
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No magic, no miracles, nothing but the same gumshoe that much of the world already has been doing over many of the generations; seeking the truth. ie... standing on the shoulders of giants
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That's it!
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See the concept of plato's cave to see what I mean
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