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#1 bishadi

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 04:01 PM

On June 10, 1967, just three days after Col. Mordechai Motta Gur had famously declared, The Temple Mount is in our hands, Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi Isser Yehuda Unterman said that halakha (traditional religious law) forbade Jews to visit the site. Two weeks later, a leading Sephardi authority, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, stated that even flying over the site was forbidden. On a similar note, the religious affairs minister, Zerah Warhaftig, said that, according to halakha, the Third Temple has to be built by God. This makes me happy, he said, because we can avoid a conflict with the Muslim religion.

My previous article (Why rebuilding the Temple would be the end of Judaism as we know it, Nov. 13) examined the transformation in the thinking of significant segments of the religious-Zionist movement about the Temple Mount. The change, which overturns the tradition with regard to visiting the site, stems from the strengthening of the national over the halakhic element, and by the infusion of a messianic eros, which did not realize itself under the old Gush Emunim (Bloc of the Faithful) paradigm. In short, the struggle for the land shifted to the Mount.

Still, we should consider all aspects of the national aspect of the modern yearning for the Temple Mount, as this longing is interwoven with the Zionist movement and modern nationalism on a number of levels.

First, in the simplest sense, the yearning for the Temple Mount and the Great Temple is a result of the concrete possibility of reaching it. Technically, that is, it is contingent on Israels establishment in the Land of Israel and on the conquest of Jerusalem. Thus, the practical possibility exists to change the physical reality to enable a new temple to be built.

Second, and more important, the desire to build the Temple is related to the desire which also became a realistic possibility upon the modern ingathering of the exiles and Israels creation to unite the whole Jewish people under one national-religious leadership. While during the ancient temples time the Jewish people were never united, it is the imagined community of the modern nation-state that ironically makes this presumably possible.

Ultimately, however, yearning for the Temple Mount and the Temple is intertwined with Jewish nationalism because it is the end point of Zionism the point at which Zionism self-destructs. For Zionism, which proposed the secularization of Judaism and its conversion from religion to nationality, built itself on the ancient messianic scaffolding of the hope for the ingathering of the exiles. The ultimate goal of the Jewish messianic tradition was always to establish a kingdom, and the independent Jewish state definitely meets the initial conditions to that end


http://www.haaretz.c...remium-1.628929



This article is solid in that it can assist in that claim that I have been trying to share for a long time: Judaism is about 'personal responsibility' and Zionism is about that quest for the stupid hill.

The wisdom of Judaism is sustain the rules (personal responsibility/commandments), learn, write and to await the last word: Ha Shem. (the name) . It comes from a concept of 'knowledge evolves' and one day, that truth (Pravda) will exist for mankind to comprehend itself. And like in all creations of words and the evolution of the combining comprehension, a single goof comes across it and unfolds. That is the mess of a man. No gawd in any sense of the 'word'.


Zionism is about a temple, an alter, a sacrifice of critters for atonement (guilt). See 'red heifer' sacrifice, ashes, cleansing and the concept that a 'god' will show up to save the day.

That old story is divergent from what was prophesized. The sion is a house of knowledge, where the combining of the knowledge of disciplines and the four corners of the earth are enabled by 'the name' (Ha Shem). That is the math defining how nature operates to the letter, unfolding all that is real, to the letter.

By the comprehension of how nature itself works, is to name god. Then each born thereof can have a foundation to truth, absolute in what I would like to call 'The Book of Life'. Like an owners manual for each born conscious, ever again.

"WE" as people are the children of the garden.
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#2 bishadi

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 03:32 PM

The Great Jewish American Liberal Academic Anti-Anti-Zionist Freak-Out


‘The Case Against Academic Boycotts of Israel’ shows how the boycott movement is more significant than its achievements suggest


By Adam Kirsch|December 2, 2014 12:00 AM

http://tabletmag.com...ademic-boycotts


That is because, as a number of essays in the book argue, the BDS agenda is at heart not just pro-Palestinian but anti-Zionist and anti-Israeli, if not actively anti-Semitic. One of the convictions shared by several contributors is that many people sign on to the BDS movement without realizing that it is committed, not to a peaceful two-state solution, but to the end of Israel as a Jewish state. The official BDS movement website (bdsmovement.net) features the unimpeachable slogan “Freedom Justice Equality,” but when you get to its actual demands, they turn out to be as follows:


1. Ending [Israel’s] occupation and colonization of all Arab lands occupied in June 1967 and dismantling the Wall

2. Recognizing the fundamental rights of the Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel to full equality

3. Respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN Resolution 194

Most Americans (and most Israelis) would agree to the second item, and many to the first; but the third, read correctly, means putting an end to Israel as a Jewish state. This is a demand that virtually no Israeli Jews, even the most liberal, would accede to, as the BDS movement knows full well. To include this core demand, then, means that BDS is not about resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict but prolonging it, and taking sides in it. It follows that any boycott adopted on these terms can never be withdrawn as long as the Jewish state continues to exist.









Now they are claiming that BDS is anti semitic, and even anti-Israel as a state. What is true, is JFJFP, BDS and Jews are against Israel and the sustaining of the oppression upon the human beings of Palestine. As simple as that.


JFJFP for example are Jews. Judaism, is not zionism.

It is weird that people can publish and sell the idea that all people claiming Judaism support Israel because the majority of Jews DO NOT support Israel.

Judaism is about command adherence, not a birth, not a funny hat, nor even a circumcision........... it is a choice of a person to adhere to the rules (commandments).
That's it.

The methodology of a 'tribe' being a birthed identifier of 'chosen by god' people is about like pharaohs, kings and Nazis.

Be certain, the 8 billion human beings are not succumbing to a few million netanyahus looking down at them/us from a podium claiming to be the leaders to mankind, because god promised them 3000 yrs ago. Zionism is the ideology of expectation of being special over all of mankind to have that 'holy holy' spot, where the gold dome is of Jerusalem. Christians stopped it, then muslims capped it (gold domed building) and now the idiots want it.

Read about rabbi glick and the temple mount institute. The glick got shot for selling the 'zionist quest' and temple mount institute already has the ritual instruments for animal sacrifices.

Jews are against the whole right wing pursuits.
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Posted 10 April 2015 - 08:50 PM

Historical Haggadahs show centuries of longing for Zion


Dr. Yoel Finkelman, curator of the Haggadah collection at the National Library in Jerusalem, says longing for Zion is an extension of central Jewish theme of redemption.

Tali Farkash

Published: 04.09.15, 12:26

http://www.ynetnews....4645591,00.html

"Jews in exile be it in Russia or Yemen dreamed of redemption, and of the Land of Israel"


"Finkelman pulls out an Ashkenaz Haggadah, also from 18th century, complete with hand-drawn illustrations and that not only places the phrase "the heart of Jerusalem Hallelujah" at the top center, but also adds a figure of King David in the Temple, as cherubs hover in the background"


"The German Haggadah from the 18th century is also illustrated in the same way, and the caption reads: "And this is form of the Temple and Jerusalem soon to be built, Amen."



According to Finkelman, this is a prominent theme, which continues the classic line of what is known as "scrolls of the holy places" - a kind of guide book written for Christian pilgrims on their trips to the Holy Land, from the Renaissance onwards"




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Posted 11 April 2015 - 01:31 AM

Attempting to trespass and build on Temple Mount will be the end of the Jews!


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Posted 11 April 2015 - 08:22 AM

Fakers!! I am a Chinese fighter pilot too.
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Posted 11 April 2015 - 02:48 PM

Attempting to trespass and build on Temple Mount will be the end of the Jews!


Them men in curls, are not Jews. They can claim to be, just like the pope claiming to be Christian.
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Posted 11 April 2015 - 03:14 PM

Them men in curls, are not Jews. They can claim to be, just like the pope claiming to be Christian.

If they do dirty jew work they are Jews, If they slaughter palestinians they are ordinary mass murderers


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Posted 12 April 2015 - 07:05 PM

If they do dirty jew work they are Jews,

Jews are boycotting the israeli apartheid and the oppression of Palestinians.


Lot's of people are doing the jew work against the bigots of israel. See JFJFP, JVP, BDS............

The sissies don't know the difference.
 

If they slaughter palestinians they are ordinary mass murderers


They sure aint 'jews' because the jews are boycotting the apartheid.


The sissies just don't know the difference.

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Posted 13 April 2015 - 02:19 AM

Jews are boycotting the israeli apartheid and the oppression of Palestinians.


Lot's of people are doing the jew work against the bigots of israel. See JFJFP, JVP, BDS............

The sissies don't know the difference.
 

They sure aint 'jews' because the jews are boycotting the apartheid.


The sissies just don't know the difference.

Did I read you right? Jews are knocking down the walls 400 miles of walls that separate them from their Palestinian brothers? You are full of s**t!


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Posted 13 April 2015 - 01:42 PM

Did I read you right? Jews are knocking down the walls 400 miles of walls that separate them from their Palestinian brothers?


You shura don't read so well.


I said, Jews are boycotting the apartheid state called israel. And I put plenty of references for anyone to see for themselves.

But sissies like you, have your head down under and right up the poop shoot.

Edited by bishadi, 13 April 2015 - 01:43 PM.

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 02:40 PM

Fakers!! I am a Chinese fighter pilot too.



Trained by 'hells angels'?
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Posted 18 April 2015 - 07:40 PM

You shura don't read so well.


I said, Jews are boycotting the apartheid state called israel. And I put plenty of references for anyone to see for themselves.

But sissies like you, have your head down under and right up the poop shoot.

I do not believe a word you said. Jews drank beer and watched 2,500 Palestinians being blown to bits including 700 kids


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 11:06 PM

I do not believe a word you said.


That is what the references are for. No one have to believe me.

The problem is that you don't have your own integrity to actually do the homework to see for yourself.


Jews drank beer and watched 2,500 Palestinians being blown to bits including 700 kids


See what I mean, you have NEVER observed what you claim and then when information is provided so that you can grow up, you are too obtuse to check.


The world is screwed up with complete a-holes, just like you and why the problems are even occurring.

I am coming to recognize that you shura are sorch-a loser.
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Posted 19 April 2015 - 01:13 AM

Jews are boycotting the israeli apartheid and the oppression of Palestinians.


Lot's of people are doing the jew work against the bigots of israel. See JFJFP, JVP, BDS............

The sissies don't know the difference.
 

They sure aint 'jews' because the jews are boycotting the apartheid.


The sissies just don't know the difference.

Bullsh*t they are boycotting, the 28 foot walls are still standing up.


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Posted 20 April 2015 - 02:24 PM

Bullsh*t they are boycotting, the 28 foot walls are still standing up.


Weird.

Just this week, the Jewish folk mention having an answer.......................

This week’s postings on JfJfP.com

In the week April 13th-19th, 2015, two of our signatories have a go at the Board of Deputies’ statement ‘A Better Way than Boycotts’. It is possible that the Deputies really do believe that they have a strategy for ending the Occupation and ensuring human rights, in the best Judaic tradition, throughout the lands that the ..........





That looks as if jews are trying to stop the apartheid/occupation/oppression and you are not doing a damn thing except whining, ranting and lying out the yahoo.


if you ever meet a truly command adherent person, I have no doubt, that to understanding the Palestinian/israel conflict, that 99.99999999% will be against the apartheid and the ignorant or self serving, like yourself............. don't know any better, because you're ignorant!
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Posted 20 April 2015 - 08:03 PM

Some Jews I know would laugh at your statements. They have been beaten, tortured and threatened with death, by the Jews of IDF and Mossad, and gave it all up, Palestinians do not trust them and Jews hate their guts.


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Posted 20 April 2015 - 09:57 PM

Some Jews I know would laugh at your statements.

And the zionists would love yours, right?

They have been beaten, tortured and threatened with death, by the Jews of IDF and Mossad, and gave it all up, Palestinians do not trust them and Jews hate their guts.



Who the heck are you talking about?

One minute I show that Jews are against israel, the next you are rambling of 'them'. What 'them'?

Zionist are not Jews and Jews are trying to stop the oppression of Palestinians.

IDF is not 'jewish'. Mossad is not 'jewish'.


jewish is a religious designation, not a military
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Posted 20 April 2015 - 11:49 PM

And the zionists would love yours, right?

Who the heck are you talking about?

One minute I show that Jews are against israel, the next you are rambling of 'them'. What 'them'?

Zionist are not Jews and Jews are trying to stop the oppression of Palestinians.

IDF is not 'jewish'. Mossad is not 'jewish'.


jewish is a religious designation, not a military

Make whatever you want out of it. Jewish soldiers murdered 2,500 people in Gaza, 700 dead children. As long as this goes on Jews are responsible


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Posted 21 April 2015 - 03:29 PM

Make whatever you want out of it. Jewish soldiers murdered 2,500 people in Gaza, 700 dead children. As long as this goes on Jews are responsible



'thou shalt not murder' ................. is a commandment. If the person murders, then they do not qualify to be jew, by their very peers. (us all/ human beings)

The choice of adhering to the commands are individual. No person is born adherent until learning and making the choice.


That is the facts of the matter and just because you believe that the murderers are jews and they believe themselves to be jewish, as soon as a commandment is broken, then the label of jew, is removed because the person DID NOT ADHERE to the commandment.


Anyone can be 'jewish'. The religion is about 'personal responsibility' and the 'birthright' aspect is ANYONE can choose to be a good who.


It is so stupid easy as soon as each consider themselves capable equally as a human being. That's it!

For example, is there one person that does not consider the 6 basic rules of no fib, no murder, no fraud, no adultery, no steal and honor ma and pa as inadequate to be good? Can ANYONE make the choice?

Does it mean you have to have a specific leader, birthright, mom, dad, street or country to be a good who?

It's all about personal responsibility and that is it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get over it as nothing can change reality but you can evolve yourself to experience it.

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 07:20 PM

'thou shalt not murder' ................. is a commandment. If the person murders, then they do not qualify to be jew, by their very peers. (us all/ human beings)

The choice of adhering to the commands are individual. No person is born adherent until learning and making the choice.


That is the facts of the matter and just because you believe that the murderers are jews and they believe themselves to be jewish, as soon as a commandment is broken, then the label of jew, is removed because the person DID NOT ADHERE to the commandment.


Anyone can be 'jewish'. The religion is about 'personal responsibility' and the 'birthright' aspect is ANYONE can choose to be a good who.


It is so stupid easy as soon as each consider themselves capable equally as a human being. That's it!

For example, is there one person that does not consider the 6 basic rules of no fib, no murder, no fraud, no adultery, no steal and honor ma and pa as inadequate to be good? Can ANYONE make the choice?

Does it mean you have to have a specific leader, birthright, mom, dad, street or country to be a good who?

It's all about personal responsibility and that is it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get over it as nothing can change reality but you can evolve yourself to experience it.

Bunch of BS, thanks for nothing!


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