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#1 bishadi

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 04:34 PM

The Supreme Courts Jerusalem Passport Case


By THE EDITORIAL BOARDJUNE 8, 2015




To whom does Jerusalem belong?

The official American position on this thorny question is one of neutrality. No American president since the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948 has ever issued a declaration or official statement acknowledging any countrys sovereignty over the holy city.

This has been a prudent response to the most vexing and volatile and difficult diplomatic issue that this nation has faced for decades, as the United States solicitor general, Donald Verrilli, said during oral arguments in November in Zivotofsky v. Kerry, a long-running case on the power to recognize foreign governments that the Supreme Court decided on Monday.

By a vote of 6 to 3, the justices reaffirmed that this power rests exclusively with the president and struck down a provocative law Congress passed in 2002 to undermine the well-established position on the status of Jerusalem.

The law required the State Department, upon request, to put Israel as the place of birth on the passport of any American citizen born in Jerusalem. President George W. Bush signed the law, part of an appropriations bill, but refused to follow it, saying that it infringed on the presidents power to speak for the nation on this issue. President Obama has held the same line.

Shortly after the law passed, Naomi Zivotofsky, an American citizen in Jerusalem, gave birth to a son, Menachem. Ms. Zivotofsky and her husband, Ari, asked that Menachems passport list Israel as his place of birth. When the government refused, citing State Department policy, the Zivotofskys sued.

Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the courts majority, acknowledged the delicate subject at the heart of Mondays decision. Still, the nation must have a single policy regarding which governments are legitimate in the eyes of the United States and which are not. That decision, he wrote, is for the President alone to make.

The executive is in the best position to make that decisive, unequivocal judgment, Justice Kennedy reasoned, and foreign countries depend on that clarity in their relations with the United States.

The dissenting justices argued that designating Israel on a passport does not change American policy. “The mere possibility that observers overseas might misperceive the significance” of the passport law is irrelevant, Chief Justice John Roberts wrote.


Ari Zivotofsky and his son, Menachem, in Washington last fall. The boy’s passport listed his birthplace as Jerusalem, not Israel.

Supreme Court Backs White House on Jerusalem Passport DisputeJUNE 8, 2015


But this disingenuous argument ignores the central, unacceptable purpose of that 2002 law, which was explicitly to contradict the executive branch’s policy regarding Jerusalem. In fact, it’s right there in the law’s title: United States Policy With Respect to Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel.


Predictably, the law triggered more than the “mere possibility” of misperception. Palestinian officials formally complained that the new law damaged American involvement in the peace process, while residents in the Gaza Strip marched in protest, even after President Bush tried to reassure them that nothing had changed.

It would have been naïve to imagine any other reaction. As Justice Elena Kagan said during oral arguments, “history suggests that everything is a big deal with respect to the status of Jerusalem.”

Justice Antonin Scalia, invoking the threat of a monarchy, claimed that the decision gives the president too much power. But decisions about recognizing foreign states and their territorial claims have long been the province of the president for reasons of both “common sense and necessity,” as Justice Kennedy wrote. The court was right to keep them there





Obama was right, again!


I bet that bugs people to acknowledge that Obama does not like the apartheid, either.

Edited by bishadi, 09 June 2015 - 04:39 PM.

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#2 shaktiman

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 05:28 PM

Bishadi the Israeli, regardless of the new posts you are making in the forum to cover-up you're Israeli trolling,

 

My wife is a lot like Nemesis as you claim. She thinks for herself.

Bishadi, You're the abuser of women. I've seen it in so many of your posts.

 

Again in Hebrew for your Mossad buddies and their teachers I've dealth with for four decades:

 

"Lacheshim huh huh ein hashom hashim hashoom hashoofim voy gimine ihigsem bunk bisha ervehd dom dum dam doom dee krash hashidet

Voym a Yoyn vesingel hemshit hemshitim filahem a mem mem chem chem hah hem mu ha hem hem hemsim he hock hock a hemm"

 

and a Hem ha hem a hem phlegm in your face.


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#3 bishadi

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 09:24 PM

Bishadi the Israeli, regardless of the new posts you are making in the forum to cover-up you're Israeli trolling,
 
My wife is a lot like Nemesis as you claim. She thinks for herself.

Bishadi, You're the abuser of women. I've seen it in so many of your posts.



Wow!


 

 

and a Hem ha hem a hem phlegm in your face.


I can see the resemblance.

Edited by bishadi, 09 June 2015 - 09:24 PM.

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#4 Shura

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 12:54 AM

Jerusalem is palestine and Israel is occupied Palestine!


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#5 bishadi

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 05:01 PM

Jerusalem is palestine and Israel is occupied Palestine!


Both israel and Jerusalem are in Palestine. Agreed

But Jerusalem is a neutral entity, about like the Vatican, in which no state has sovereign ownership.

Have you ever read the partition plan? http://unispal.un.or...5256C330061D253

C. STATUTE OF THE CITY



The Trusteeship Council shall, within five months of the approval of the present plan, elaborate and approve a detailed Statute of the City which shall contain inter alia the substance of the following provisions:

1. Government machinery; special objectives. The Administering Authority in discharging its administrative obligations shall pursue the following special objectives:

(a) To protect and to preserve the unique spiritual and religious interests located in the city of the three great monotheistic faiths throughout the world, Christian, Jewish and Moslem; to this end to ensure that order and peace, and especially religious peace, reign in Jerusalem;

( :cool: To foster co-operation among all the inhabitants of the city in their own interests as well as in order to encourage and support the peaceful development of the mutual relations between the two Palestinian peoples throughout the Holy Land; to promote the security, well-being and any constructive measures of development of the residents, having regard to the special circumstances and customs of the various peoples and communities.

2. Governor and administrative staff. A Governor of the City of Jerusalem shall be appointed by the Trusteeship Council and shall be responsible to it. He shall be selected on the basis of special qualifications and without regard to nationality. He shall not, however, be a citizen of either State in Palestine.

The Governor shall represent the United Nations in the City and shall exercise on their behalf all powers of administration, including the conduct of external affairs. He shall be assisted by an administrative staff classed as international officers in the meaning of Article 100 of the Charter and chosen whenever practicable from the residents of the city and of the rest of Palestine on a non-discriminatory basis. A detailed plan for the organization of the administration of the city shall be submitted by the Governor to the Trusteeship Council and duly approved by it.

3. Local autonomy. (a) The existing local autonomous units in the territory of the city (villages, townships and municipalities) shall enjoy wide powers of local government and administration.

( :cool: The Governor shall study and submit for the consideration and decision of the Trusteeship Council a plan for the establishment of a special town units consisting respectively, of the Jewish and Arab sections of new Jerusalem. The new town units shall continue to form part of the present municipality of Jerusalem.

4. Security measures. (a) The City of Jerusalem shall be demilitarized; its neutrality shall be declared and preserved, and no para-military formations, exercises or activities shall be permitted within its borders.

( :cool: Should the administration of the City of Jerusalem be seriously obstructed or prevented by the non-co-operation or interference of one or more sections of the population, the Governor shall have authority to take such measures as may be necessary to restore the effective functioning of the administration.

© To assist in the maintenance of internal law and order and especially for the protection of the Holy Places and religious buildings and sites in the city, the Governor shall organize a special police force of adequate strength, the members of which shall be recruited outside of Palestine. The Governor shall be empowered to direct such budgetary provision as may be necessary for the maintenance of this force.

5. Legislative organization. A Legislative Council, elected by adult residents of the city irrespective of nationality on the basis of universal and secret suffrage and proportional representation, shall have powers of legislation and taxation. No legislative measures shall, however, conflict or interfere with the provisions which will be set forth in the Statute of the City, nor shall any law, regulation, or official action prevail over them. The Statute shall grant to the Governor a right of vetoing bills inconsistent with the provisions referred to in the preceding sentence. It shall also empower him to promulgate temporary ordinances in case the council fails to adopt in time a bill deemed essential to the normal functioning of the administration.

6. Administration of justice. The Statute shall provide for the establishment of an independent judiciary system, including a court of appeal. All the inhabitants of the City shall be subject to it.

7. Economic union and economic regime. The City of Jerusalem shall be included in the Economic Union of Palestine and be bound by all stipulations of the undertaking and of any treaties issued therefrom, as well as by the decision of the Joint Economic Board. The headquarters of the Economic Board shall be established in the territory of the City.

The Statute shall provide for the regulation of economic matters not falling within the regime of the Economic Union, on the basis of equal treatment and non-discrimination for all members of the United Nations and their nationals.

8. Freedom of transit and visit; control of residents. Subject to considerations of security, and of economic welfare as determined by the Governor under the directions of the Trusteeship Council, freedom of entry into, and residence within, the borders of the City shall be guaranteed for the residents or citizens of the Arab and Jewish States. Immigration into, and residence within, the borders of the city for nationals of other States shall be controlled by the Governor under the directions of the Trusteeship Council.

9. Relations with the Arab and Jewish States. Representatives of the Arab and Jewish States shall be accredited to the Governor of the City and charged with the protection of the interests of their States and nationals in connexion with the international administration of the City.

10. Official languages. Arabic and Hebrew shall be the official languages of the city. This will not preclude the adoption of one or more additional working languages, as may be required.

11. Citizenship. All the residents shall become ipso facto citizens of the City of Jerusalem unless they opt for citizenship of the State of which they have been citizens or, if Arabs or Jews, have filed notice of intention to become citizens of the Arab or Jewish State respectively, according to part I, section B, paragraph 9, of this plan.

The Trusteeship Council shall make arrangements for consular protection of the citizens of the City outside its territory.

12. Freedoms of Citizens. (a) Subject only to the requirements of public order and morals, the inhabitants of the City shall be ensured the enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms, including freedom of conscience, religion and worship, language, education, speech and press, assembly and association, and petition.

( :cool: No discrimination of any kind shall be made between the inhabitants on the grounds of race, religion, language or sex.

© All persons within the City shall be entitled to equal protection of the laws.

(d) The family law and personal status of the various persons and communities and their religious interests, including endowments, shall be respected.

(e) Except as may be required for the maintenance of public order and good government, no measure shall be taken to obstruct or interfere with the enterprise of religious or charitable bodies of all faiths or to discriminate against any representative or member of these bodies on the ground of his religion or nationality.

(f) The City shall ensure adequate primary and secondary education for the Arab and Jewish communities respectively, in their own languages and in accordance with their cultural traditions.

The right of each community to maintain its own schools for the education of its own members in its own language, while conforming to such educational requirements of a general nature as the City may impose, shall not be denied or impaired. Foreign educational establishments shall continue their activity on the basis of their existing rights.

(g) No restriction shall be imposed on the free use by any inhabitant of the City of any language in private intercourse, in commerce, in religion, in the Press or in publications of any kind, or at public meetings.

13. Holy Places. (a) Existing rights in respect of Holy Places and religious buildings or sites shall not be denied or impaired.

( :cool: Free access to the Holy Places and religious buildings or sites and the free exercise of worship shall be secured in conformity with existing rights and subject to the requirements of public order and decorum.

© Holy Places and religious buildings or sites shall be preserved. No act shall be permitted which may in any way impair their sacred character. If at any time it appears to the Governor that any particular Holy Place, religious building or site is in need of urgent repair, the Governor may call upon the community or communities concerned to carry out such repair. The Governor may carry it out himself at the expense of the community or communities concerned if no action is taken within a reasonable time.

(d) No taxation shall be levied in respect of any Holy Place, religious building or site which was exempt from taxation on the date of the creation of the City. No change in the incidence of such taxation shall be made which would either discriminate between the owners or occupiers of Holy Places, religious buildings or sites, or would place such owners or occupiers in a position less favourable in relation to the general incidence of taxation than existed at the time of the adoption of the Assembly's recommendations.

14. Special powers of the Governor in respect of the Holy Places, religious buildings and sites in the City and in any part of Palestine. (a) The protection of the Holy Places, religious buildings and sites located in the City of Jerusalem shall be a special concern of the Governor.

( :cool: With relation to such places, buildings and sites in Palestine outside the city, the Governor shall determine, on the ground of powers granted to him by the Constitutions of both States, whether the provisions of the Constitutions of the Arab and Jewish States in Palestine dealing therewith and the religious rights appertaining thereto are being properly applied and respected.

© The Governor shall also be empowered to make decisions on the basis of existing rights in cases of disputes which may arise between the different religious communities or the rites of a religious community in respect of the Holy Places, religious buildings and sites in any part of Palestine.

In this task he may be assisted by a consultative council of representatives of different denominations acting in an advisory capacity.






Obama was right not to sign s1322 and the judges that made the ruling on the lawsuit, also made the correct decision.



And neither you or the other sissies on this forum, can deny them facts.
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#6 Shura

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 06:50 PM

There is nothin "neutral" about the capital of Palestine, it is Palestine!


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