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#1 grog

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 09:42 AM

Climate change threatens Mediterranean, southern Europe with aridity
 
 
 
 
January 02, 2018
 
 
 
 
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Aridity has been consistently growing in the Mediterranean and southern Europe, but if the global temperature rise reaches two degrees Celsius, from one degree today, that will greatly aggravate the situation.
 
This is one of the conclusions of a report by a team of researchers led by Dr. Manoj Joshi from East Anglia University, UK, just published in the periodical Nature Climate Change.
 
The report stressed that it is crucial to keep global warming below 1.5C, as that would dramatically reduce the area of the earth's surface that is hit by aridification. A greater temperature rise would threaten Greece and regional countries with an increased number of wildfires.
 
The report projects that up to 30 percent of the world will experience substantially greater aridity if the global temperature rises to 2C.
 
According to the report, if the global temperature rise is kept below 1.5C, the areas that will benefit most are southern Europe, Southeast Asia, South Africa, Central America, and Southern Australia, which all together account for 20 percent of the global population.
 
 
 
 
 

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#2 grog

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 10:12 AM

 
 
 
 
 

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#3 RobertD

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:37 PM

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#4 Mario Milano

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:45 PM

you are going off the deep end with this stupid Globull warming crap Grog...

 

You are telling us to not click on anything you post in future?....

 

You listen and believe AL Gore's total bullshit and then you expect us to take you seriously?

 

Mate get real or fck off

 

God damn we had that lunatic Rabbi Hippy trying to tell us it stopped snowing on planet earth in the year 2000...and now you are starting this stupid shit as well?


Edited by Mario Milano, 02 January 2018 - 04:51 PM.

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#5 LiebenUndLeben

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:27 PM

Early in 20th Century, Carnegie Institute sent ships around the world to measure electric charge between clouds & Earth - sea surface with intent to discover way to control weather.   

They have succeeded enough to cause storms & drought. 

They do this for profit and for "social engineering" such as "population control".

It goes hand and hand with drugs, vaccinations, adulterated food, water & air.

 

These guys have tons of money to bribe - hire "scientists" to keep peasants from knowing truth of what's going on.

When a nation buys into their lies, they make many victims.


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#6 grog

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:30 PM

you are going off the deep end with this stupid Globull warming crap Grog...

 

You are telling us to not click on anything you post in future?....

 

You listen and believe AL Gore's total bullshit and then you expect us to take you seriously?

 

Mate get real or fck off

 

God damn we had that lunatic Rabbi Hippy trying to tell us it stopped snowing on planet earth in the year 2000...and now you are starting this stupid shit as well?

 

2017  was the hottest year without the short-term warming influence of an El Niño event.
 
2017 was the hottest year without an El Niño by a wide margin - a whopping 0.17°C hotter than 2014.

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#7 Atossa

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:31 PM





I prefer aridity over this current North American mini-ice-age.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:48 PM

I prefer aridity over this current North American mini-ice-age.

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Why are nearly all the climate-change-deniers in North America?
 
Why are there so few climate-change-deniers outside North America?

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#9 Atossa

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:53 PM




I was born in a hot arid desert region of North America.
I prefer that type of climate over humidity and arctic cold.

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Edited by Atossa, 02 January 2018 - 06:54 PM.

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#10 Atossa

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:32 PM




Previously when I asked my brother [NASA scientist and part of NASA Houston's original earth climate discussion group]
about global warming... this is what he emailed my back:


" The "doomsdayers" have claimed that warming causes more extreme weather.
Bottom line -- some extremes causes by warming, most not."


" The truth lies between those who say there is no global warming caused by humans and those who say the Earth and mankind face rapid and certain catastrophe. My view is that we cannot ignore future warming, but response should be measured, phased, and carefully thought out.

Some points:

1) CO2 produced by fossil fuel burning does cause warming, as does land use practices, cement making, and other ways humans alter the surface.

2) The oceans have been absorbing half of CO2 emitted. Via limestone deposition, they are the ultimate end of dissolved CO2. They also absorb heat. These effects are poorly quantified.

3) By itself, CO2 produces modest warming, about one deg centigrade (1.8 Fahrenheit) for a doubling of atmospheric CO2.

4) The greater effects are produced by feedbacks of the warming. There are many; some warm, some cool. For example, warming evaporates more water into the atmosphere, and that water is a greater greenhouse gas than CO2. But more atmos. water produces more clouds, which reflect sunlight back to space and cool Earth.

5) Many of these feedbacks are poorly understood and some probably not known.

6) Long-term variations in the Sun are generally ignored, as are other natural factors (e.g. changes in ocean currents or cloud cover).

7) The "doom predictors" use computer models of future warming. These model predictions are all over the map, but in past have predicted more warming than occurred. Models range from about 2 to about 8 deg-C total warming for each CO2 doubling. The truth is likely between 2 and 3. But politicians and Greens adopt numbers of 5 to 8, which are unlikely.

8) Renewable energy (solar and wind) are intermittent, and often not predictable (Sun behind cloud; wind stops blowing). Storing renewable energy is very difficult and that is not likely to change soon. (Today's options are pumped hydro or huge battery groups.) That means fossil fuel plants have to be kept operating in reserve. So more power plants are needed than before.

9) Coal plants cannot be started up quickly, as needed for backups. That leaves natural gas. From fracking the US has a growing NG supply, but not the rest of the world. It requires enormous funding to retire all coal plants, build new NG plants, and new renewable facilities.

10) Further new transmission lines and grid lines to distribute are needed. And when the fraction of renewable into a grid exceeds about 20%, new problems and costs arise. We are talking $$trillions here. It must be a slow phased process.

11) Nuclear energy, which is NOT intermittent and produces no CO2 is being ignored or phased out around the world.

I could go on and on. But you get the picture. Replacing fossil fuel energy is a very difficult, expensive, and disrupting process. It will probably require many decades. And electrical power is only part of fossil fuel CO2 production. There is transportation (oil) and business and home heating (coal, oil and gas). Together these are even bigger than electrical power. "

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