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#21 Pete_V

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 11:22 AM

 

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:cry: "Buahhh! I be smart you be dumb! Buahhh!"  :cry:


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#22 grog

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 12:50 PM

NEW EMAILS REVEAL SCOTT PRUITT WAS PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN ERASING CLIMATE DATA FROM EPA WEBSITE
 
 
 
 
 
January 29, 2018
 
 
 
 
 
Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt was personally involved in the purging of information from the agency's website in the early months of the Trump administration, according to documents obtained by the Environmental Defense Fund (EDF).
 
Soon after President Donald Trump took office, pages on the EPA's website about climate change started disappearing or getting redirected to sites touting the president's fossil fuel agenda. Along with webpages about climate change and climate science, the purge removed the agency's webpage about the Clean Power Plan, the signature Obama administration effort to curb carbon emissions from power plants and one that Pruitt is now attempting to repeal, the environmental group said Monday in a news release.
 
"Obscuring information thwarts meaningful public participation in EPA's work to protect Americans' health and safety. It reinforces serious concerns that Pruitt has predetermined that he will repeal the Clean Power Plan, and that the current rulemaking process is a sham," EDF attorney Ben Levitan said in a statement.
 
EDF discovered Pruitt's direct involvement in the removal of the webpages in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request for documents about changes to the EPA's website pertaining to climate and air quality. In August, in a separate records batch, the environmental group received more than 1,900 climate-related web pages and files that had been removed from or modified on the EPA's website.
 
Among the documents released by EDF on Monday is an email which shows J.P. Freire, then serving as Pruitt's associate administrator for public affairs, writing to colleagues on April 28, 2017: "We would like the content at the links below removed and archived as soon as possible." The webpage titles included "Climate Change, "Climate Change Science," "Climate Change Impacts," and "Student's Guide to Global Climate Change." Each of these webpages still directs the user to a page that states "this page is being updated."
 
"We appreciate your assistance in this time-sensitive manner," said Freire.
 
The Clean Power Plan purge included the elimination of access to fact sheets about greenhouse gas emissions at the state and local levels and how different demographic groups were affected by such emissions. At the time, the EPA said the website changes involved "updating language to reflect the approach of new leadership," including Trump's views on "climate and regulation."
 
In response to the environmental group's FOIA request, records are being released on a rolling basis, and EDF is analyzing and releasing them as it gets them, spokeswoman Sharyn Stein said. EDF is posting all of the documents it receives from the FOIA request on its "Promoting Government Transparency" webpage.
 
In a statement emailed to ThinkProgress on Monday, the EPA said it is constantly updating its website to reflect new initiatives and projects of the agency. "Of course the site will be reflective of the current administration's priorities. With that said, all the content from the previous administration is still easily accessible and publicly available through the banner across the top of our website," EPA spokesperson Jahan Wilcox said.
 
According to EDF, while the removed webpages may still be accessible through various EPA archives, they are a poor substitute. They do not appear in a search of the EPA website. "The website purge fits Pruitt's troubling pattern of ruling EPA under a cloak of secrecy, which is no way to run an agency entrusted with protecting the public health and environment," the group said.
 
Earlier this month, the Environmental Data & Governance Initiative (EDGI), a nonprofit government watchdog group, released a report that concluded the EPA's removal and ongoing overhaul of its climate change website "raises strong concerns about loss of access to valuable information for state, local, and tribal governments, and for educators, policymakers, and the general public."
 
In November, seven Democratic senators wrote a letter to Pruitt asking that the previous "Climate and Energy Resources for State, Local, and Tribal Governments" website be returned and that an explanation for the initial removal be provided. The EPA has not responded to the letter, according to EDGI.
 
In the latest batch of emails, EDF found that last spring one of Pruitt's advisers asked EPA staffers in the agency's public affairs office how quickly they could launch a website on Trump's energy independence executive order. The administrator wanted to redirect the website for the EPA's Clean Power Plan to the energy independence website.
 
"How close are we to launching this on the website? The Administrator would like it to go up ASAP. He also has several other changes that need to take place," Lincoln Ferguson, a senior adviser to Pruitt, asked in a email sent to the public affairs office in April 2017. Freire responded: "You can tell him we … are just finishing up."
 
Ferguson responded: "Can it happen today?" He added in a subsequent email, "Just asking because he is asking."
 
According to the emails obtained by EDF, Freire was emphatic that all Clean Power Plan references should link to the new page about Trump's executive order. In a discussion about the new page, Freiere wrote: "This looks great, and should be on the page for the Clean Power Plan. Any reference to the Clean Power Plan, any link to it, should redirect here."
 
When it was revealed in April that the EPA was removing climate change information from its website, lawmakers quickly expressed concern. At the time, Rep. Gerald Connolly (D-VA), co-chair of the House Sustainable Energy and Environment Coalition, noted that the Trump administration is engaging in censorship where "certain phrases and words cannot be used in research or in government documents with respect to the Paris agreement or climate change or greenhouse gases."
 
"This is Stalin science," Connolly said, referring to a program during Soviet leader Joseph Stalin's rule where more than 3,000 scientists were persecuted as part of a campaign to suppress his scientific opponents.
 
The emails obtained by EDF also suggest EPA staff were directed to manipulate search results, the environmental group said. Website visitors searching for information about the Clean Power Plan would be diverted to the page promoting Trump's executive order, instead of what they were actually looking for.
 
In one conversation, an EPA staff member stated, "I've been asked about search results for the term 'Clean Power Plan.'" A colleague responded: "We can make the Energy Independence homepage a 'Best Bet' and thus the first result for Clean Power Plan for our EPA Search engine if you request it."
 
 
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#23 grog

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 01:32 PM

Scott Pruitt Will Make America Great Again - For Polluters
 
President Trump's choice to lead the Environmental Protection Agency might put it on the endangered species list.
 
 
 
 
 
JANUARY 31, 2017
 
 
 
 
 
In this exclusive web essay, Bill Moyers takes on President Trump's choice to lead the Environmental Protection Agency. Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt has a track record of putting the business interests of the energy sector before the environmental and health interests of the public. He has spent his career fighting the rules and regulations of the agency he is now being nominated to lead. His expected confirmation threatens to make America great for polluters again.
 
Update: Republican senators on the Environment and Public Works Committee suspended rules that required at least one Democratic senator be in attendance and voted 11-0 to approve Pruitt's nomination last week. On Tuesday, the Center for Media & Democracy filed a lawsuit complaining that his office has denied "prompt, reasonable access" to records of his past communications. The full Senate is expected to vote on Pruitt's nomination next week.
 
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TRANSCRIPT
 
I'm Bill Moyers, here with a horror story - a story of corruption so daring, so devious and so dangerous it could kill you. It could poison your drinking water, contaminate your neighborhood and make your children very, very sick.
 
Let's begin with a television commercial that I chanced to see on CNN during Donald Trump's inaugural weekend. Take a look.
 
BILL MOYERS: That's an ad sponsored by one of the biggest and most powerful trade associations in the country - the National Association of Manufacturers. The NAM ran three ads like it during inaugural week, all of them aimed at bringing public pressure to bear on the US Senate to confirm Scott Pruitt as head of the Environmental Protection Agency. And just who, you might ask, is Scott Pruitt?
 
SCOTT PRUITT: It is an honor and a privilege to be before you today to be considered for the position of EPA administrator.
 
MOYERS: Pruitt is Oklahoma's attorney general. His salary of more than $260,000 is paid by taxpayers, but Pruitt really works for the energy industry. He's a political profiteer whose career in public office is built on taking money from corporations and doing their bidding.
 
SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-RI): It appears that a great deal of your fundraising comes from these organizations who are in the energy sector and devoted to fighting climate change.
 
MOYERS: At Pruitt's recent confirmation hearings before Congress, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island tried to unravel the web of corporate influence around Scott Pruitt.
 
WHITEHOUSE: Devon Energy, Koch Industries, ExxonMobil have all maxed out to that account, at various times.
 
PRUITT: I'm not aware if they have maxed out or not, Senator, but I'm sure that they have given to that committee.
 
MOYERS: Now, take a look at this letter. In 2011 the Environmental Protection Agency was trying to limit methane gas leaking from drilling operations like that of Devon Energy, one of those oil and gas companies that donate to him. Pruitt wrote the EPA on behalf of the company. Turns out the letter was drafted, almost to the word, by lawyers for Devon Energy.
 
PRUITT: That is the letter that is on my letterhead that was sent to the EPA, yes. With respect to the issue -
 
SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-OR): Do you acknowledge that 97 percent of the words in that letter came directly from Devon Energy?
 
PRUITT: I have not looked at the percentages, sir.
 
MERKLEY: You used your office as a direct extension of an oil company, rather than a direct extension of the interests of the public health of the people of Oklahoma.
 
MOYERS: Something else: As attorney general Scott Pruitt has sued the Environmental Protection Agency 14 times. The New York Times found that 13 of those lawsuits included co-parties that had given money to Pruitt's campaign or to an affiliated PAC. Most of the suits failed. But that didn't deter Pruitt or his donors. According to the publication Energy and Environment News, the more he sued, the more the energy dollars rolled in.
 
So why does Donald Trump want a lackey for the big energy companies to run the agency charged with protecting the public from pollution? And why did the National Association of Manufacturers run ads like this for a man so obviously not a defender of the public interest?
 
Because Trump and the industry can count Pruitt on their side, as his record shows, in preventing the EPA from holding big business accountable for the environment and public safety. After all, when he became attorney general of Oklahoma, he shut down the state's environmental enforcement unit.
 
SEN. ED MARKEY (D-MA): Honestly, people are going to think that it's not just the fox guarding the hen house, it's the fox destroying the hen house because you haven't distanced yourself from the actual litigation that you have initiated on most of the key issues that you are now going to have responsibility for protecting in terms of the public health of the entire country.
 
PRUITT: And Senator, I can say to you unequivocally, I will recuse as directed by EPA ethics counsel.
 
MOYERS: Scott Pruitt fits right into Trump's world. In his first week in office Donald Trump has aimed a sledgehammer at the EPA. Within hours of his swearing in, he ordered a freeze on all new environmental rules pending review, suspended all federal environmental grants and contracts, thus stalling billions of dollars that were heading to key operations like air pollution monitoring, water quality testing and environmental research.
 
Then he ordered all outward communication from the EPA to stop - no social media, no conferences, no meetings between the agency and the public. So if you want to know if there's work being done to clean up a superfund site, too bad. If you want to know the role of fracking in Oklahoma's earthquakes, sorry. Whether the emissions of an industry in your hometown comply with federal safety laws? You'll have to guess.
 
And there's more. He's opposed climate science.
 
PRUITT: As I indicated in my opening statement, the climate is changing and human activity contributes to that in some manner.
 
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT): In some manner? Ninety-seven percent of the scientists who wrote articles in peer-reviewed journals believe that human activity is the fundamental reason we are seeing climate change; you disagree with that?
 
PRUITT: I believe the ability to measure with precision the degree of human activities' impact on the climate, is subject to more debate on whether the climate is changing or whether human activity contributes to it.
 
MOYERS: We should remember that Richard Nixon, a Republican president, signed the legislation creating the Environmental Protection Agency back in l970. It was part of the movement to restore a country that had been despoiled by industrial abuse.
 
PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON: The environmental agenda before the Congress includes laws to deal with water pollution, pesticide hazards, ocean dumping, excessive noise, careless land development and many other environmental problems. These problems will not stand still for politics or for partisanship.
 
MOYERS: Trump's wrecking crew says environmental regulations impede the progress and profits of companies. But if you think those companies and their so-called "free market" will, without safety provisions, make America great again. Well here's is what turning back the clock could look like:
 
These are the EPA's own photographs taken for the record as the agency began its work. Rivers were polluted. Lead gasoline threatened the developing brains of children. Trash choked harbors, and illegal dumping leached into groundwater, agricultural run off suffocated marine waterways. Unfettered industries were running our country to ruin. There, before your eyes, is our past.
 
It's no wonder the founders of our government feared corruption in high office. They knew it could lead to bribery, nepotism and the abuse of power by a government aligned with the great monied interests - such as the East India Tea Company. They knew it could enable of public officials to neglect their duty to the public and serve instead the design of wealth.
 
At the end of the first week of Donald Trump's first hundred days, those founders must be turning in their graves.
 
 
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#24 RobertD

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 01:33 PM

Holy shit... quack.
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#25 grog

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 01:35 PM

Shithole Trump is so ignorant he does not know the difference between:
 
a)
weather
 
b
global warming
 
c)
climate change

Edited by grog, 30 January 2018 - 01:41 PM.

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#26 Ivan88

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 04:20 PM

 

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Duh, I'm cold!

I think the heater in my house is making me cold. I think, we should abolish, coal, oil, gas or any other heat producing stuff that's making me cold!


Edited by Ivan88, 30 January 2018 - 04:41 PM.

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#27 Mario Milano

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 04:24 PM

Holy shit... quack.

Yeh we have to excuse Al Grog, he is just fucking nuts!


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#28 Ivan88

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 04:25 PM

 

xxxxxxxx Trump is so ignorant he does not know the difference between:
 
a)
weather
 
b
global warming
 
c)
climate change

Neither does Grog.

I know of no one that says climate doesn't change.

The problem is those who think they should be able to initiate the use of violence/force upon their neighbors, such as what the Global Warming man faced beasts seek to impose on Mankind.

 

And Grog's labeling North America as the center of "climate change denial" indicates that he blames America, even though Americans are largely brain dead Pavlov dogs believing whatever garbage is being pumped into their heads & hearts.

 

The real problem is not shifts in our natural environment, but the doctrines and traditions that make the Perfect Word of  mother nature's God of none effect, and putting the garbage we think upon the highest throne.

 

BTW, mother nature and her God, use climate & weather as a means of Judgment & punishment, stimulation &  change.

The enemies of Mankind are using the perpetual challenge of weather to enslave Mankind.


Edited by Ivan88, 30 January 2018 - 04:38 PM.

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#29 Mario Milano

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 04:31 PM

 

Shithole Trump is so ignorant he does not know the difference between:
 
a)
weather
 
b
global warming
 
c)
climate change

 

You are insane aren't you Grog...the A is correct, the B and C crap you posted all came from you clown Globull warming cultists to try to pretend things are so complicated ..

 

It all started with Globull warming with you nutsos, then when that didn't work like snow is still a thing today not of the past...you morons changed the wording to climate change to keep us really scared and keep Al Gore rich, when the world realized you clowns are insane you changed it to carbon pollution....

 

Yeh dick...it's the weather...we all know it...and I am pretty sure Trumpenstein knows it too, so does your pope mega scamster Al Gore....

 

Idiot GloBull warming cult trying to pretend shit is so complicated when it isn't but their solution is to pay tax and it will all magically be fixed up....

 

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Edited by Mario Milano, 30 January 2018 - 04:33 PM.

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#30 MirrorMan

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 12:07 AM

We need to move away from fossil fuels and use renewable energy sources, as well as nuclear energy. This also means that we need to invest in energy storage facilities, as renewable energy sources like wind and solar power are intermittently available. E.g. one can build artificial islands of which large parts are below sea level. One can then generate hydro-power on demand by flooding the island, while solar or wind energy can be used to pump out the sea water.

 

Another way to store energy is cryogenic energy storage. One can use wind or solar energy is liquefy air and store that in large containers. Then when there is peak demand, the liquid air can be pumped through heat exchangers where the ambient air warms it, this causes the pressure to rise and a turbine can be driven by it.

 

Nuclear energy is also an option, but large scale use of nuclear energy requires the use of fast breeder reactors to produce enough fuel. The known U-235 reserves cannot power the World for long (about a century). But by using U-238 which can be converted to fissile Pu-239 or Th-232 which can be converted to fissile U-233, the known reserves can power the World for 30,000 years at current power demands. 

 

I.m.o., it's a waste of time trying to convince people who don't believe in global warming, because that discussion doesn't lead to solutions. Also, there are other reasons than just global warming why you want to have an emission free energy infrastructure. Just ordinary air pollution, the fine particulate matter that we breath in damages lungs. Adults today have lower lung capacity than people who lived a few centuries ago. If you get asthma then that's going to be made worse by the air pollution, and the air pollution had already made your lungs smaller, so it's a double blow. 


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#31 Ivan88

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 01:44 AM

Cleaning the air makes sense. 

 

Back in the late 80's I went to Oregon from Southern California, and got sick from the clean air.


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