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#21 Pete_V

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 07:05 PM

Will the evil Edomite-jews bomb those 12 sites inside Syria with impunity... just like all their other repeated bombings inside Syria ??

If so, Syria is an Edomite-jew vassal state.

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They have been resisting and suffering for almost 10 years and they are Jew-vassal state...  :tralala:


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#22 Mario Milano

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 01:58 AM

Putin to Netanyahu: Get your act together

By Jonas E. Alexis - February 10, 20180163

Putin finally sent a message to Netanyahu telling him that he needs to start acting like a grown-up.

Netanyahu has been a problem child since the beginning of his political career, and he obviously thinks he is politically immortal: he can lie, deceive, summon military forces to kill innocent babies in places like Gaza,[1] and even call the United States to do his diabolical work.

But now he is being told that he has to shape up or ship out. During a phone conversation, Putin has told the mad man to “avoid any steps that could lead to a new round of confrontation dangerous to everyone in the region.”[2] How did the mad man respond? Well, he used the old boring and stupid trick: Israel was responding to “Iranian threats” in the region. He said:

“I reiterated to him [Putin] our right and our duty to defend ourselves against aggression against us from Syrian territory. We agreed the security coordination between our armies will continue.”[3]

Let’s take this statement to its logical conclusion. Do countries like Iran and Syria have the duty to defend themselves against Israel? Is it right for Netanyahu to continue to destroy one country after another in the Middle East in the name of “self-defense”? Who gave him that right? The international community? The United States? Or the Talmud, which by the way is the legal system in Israel?[4]

You see, the mad man in Tel Aviv will never take time to answer those questions in a rational way because that would ruin his political career. Moreover, Netanyahu will never tell us what he means by “Iranian threats” or “aggression.” Iran is in Syria legally. The United States is there illegally. So, which country is really being aggressive here? Who is the mad man fooling this time? Rex Tillerson? Donald Trump? Nikki Haley?

He can grab Tillerson and other political morons by the balls and force them to kill, steal, and destroy in the Middle East for Israel, but people are certainly waking up. The Russian Foreign Ministry has recently stated:

“Moscow is deeply concerned with the latest developments and attacks on Syria. The danger of the escalation of tensions within and around the de-escalation zones, which have become an important factor in reducing violence in Syria, is of particular concern. We consider it necessary to unconditionally respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Syria and other countries of the region.”

I would hasten to say that Russia needs to move the dialogue forward by framing a policy which will stop Israel from incessantly and diabolically attacking Syria. Israel has been playing video games in the region for far too long. It is time that nations of the world, particularly Russia, challenge this terrorist state.

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#23 LebenUndLieben

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 02:20 AM

Syrian officialdom listen to Israeli advisors, combined with their own egos, equals important reason Syria has been having such a tough tome

 

Another factor is US supplied nukes to Israelis.

 

Syria needs nukes?


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 02:37 AM

Basically, our wonderful "peace loving" President has declared war on Syria & Russia in support of His anti-Christ fake Israel buddies if Russia & Syria don't surrender:

https://www.rt.com/n...ria-escalation/

 

The Israeli Prime Minister ... told the Russian leader that Israel will defend itself against any “Iranian threats” coming from the territory of Syria. Tel Aviv maintains it is vital to its national security to target Iranian interest in Syria as well as prevent potential arms shipments to Hezbollah.

“I reiterated to him [Putin] our right and our duty to defend ourselves against aggression against us from Syrian territory. We agreed the security coordination between our armies will continue,” Netanyahu said at a press conference on Saturday evening, where he blamed Iran for the Saturday’s incident.

Insisting that “Israel seeks peace,” the PM vowed that Israelis “will continue to defend ourselves with determination against any attack against us and against any attempt by Iran to establish a military presence against us in Syria or anywhere else.”

President Trump via one of His agents: " the United States “strongly supports” Israel’s right to defend itself. “Iran’s calculated escalation of threat and its ambition to project its power and dominance, places all the people of the‎ region – from Yemen to Lebanon – at risk,”she said, echoing Netanyahu’s remarks.

 

It should be plain as day to the Russians that the US is completely controlled by sinogog of satan & the 3 evil spirits of Revelation 16, and has ZERO intent to do anything really Peaceful,  intending instead to deliver peace of the grave to Syria, Labanon, Iran, Russia and anyone else in the world that does not submit to being ruled 100% by anti-Christ Talmudists.

 

This is so, considering that the US is preparing an attack on Donbass using US troops. https://en.news-fron...loy-in-donbass/

 

So, in order to stop the wars, perhaps a limited concession should be made to US demands for all nations to submit to it's hellish masters. 

However, submission as in Syria, for example, only leads to the US and it's beloved sinogog of satan getting more power.

 

This process is well advanced in North America, where the People submit to taxes, regulations, oppression etc., just to stay alive, while at same time Talmudic system making it harder and harder for people to survive.


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#25 Mario Milano

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 03:10 AM

Who is doing what in Syria and why

February 10, 2018

It seems that every time a chapter in the war on Syria comes to an end, a new factor surfaces. Just like the 1975-1989 civil war in Lebanon before it, and which started off with a clash between the PLO and the Lebanese rightwing Phalangist militia and then ended up with an Israeli invasion and its aftermath, the war on Syria is now a totally different war from the one that started seven years ago.

With other players gone or having their roles changed, the only persisting player is the Syrian Army of course, fighting here for the integrity and sovereignty of Syria. We cannot include its allies, because even its allies have changed.

There is much speculation about recent events, a lot of war and fear-mongering, but if all elements of the current powers on the ground are dissected and analyzed, it becomes very easy to see what is going on and who is doing what.

Before we try to understand who is doing what and why, let us first identify who are the main players on the ground and behind the scenes; past and present. This is a short list:

Syria of course
Saudi Arabia
Qatar
Kurds
Turkey
Iran
Hezbollah
Israel
the USA
Russia

Notwithstanding the inevitable continuing role and presence of Syria and popular national Syrian allied forces in the war against her, we must acknowledge that Saudi Arabia and Qatar have already played their role and walked away as losers. For the sake of historic documentation, this had to be mentioned even though they do not have much of an influence and clout at all at present.

Kurds are playing a role that cannot be discussed without acknowledging the role they played between 2011 and 2015/16. Kurdish fighters, separatists or otherwise, have upheld Syrian border integrity in Syria’s north from as early as 2011 when the Syrian Army had no allies on the ground. And even though the Syrian Army and Kurdish fighters did not fight physically within the same trench, the Kurds fought fiercely in the north, holding their ground, against Turkish-facilitated incursions and against ISIS later on.

However, as Kurdish separatist movements were established and as they were not preemptively contained under the roof of Damascus, something had to give.

Kurds who are separatists will do anything and make deals with anyone to make their dream come true. History has shown that they are prepared to join hands with America and even Israel.

It must be acknowledged however that Kurds who are not separatists, and there is no way of telling their percentage any more than there is a way of telling the percentage of those who are, do not seem to have much of a voice in their community. Furthermore, seemingly there isn’t an all-inclusive nationally-endorsed rationale where they can address their concerns against those who are separatists and in a manner that can allay their fears and apprehensions as a minority group in such a way that would quell their desire for independence.

Turkey’s role has been changing with the tides in the last seven years. From wanting to topple the Syrian Government and Erdogan praying at the Omayyad Mosque as the conqueror of Damascus, Erdogan is now in a much more humble damage-control mode hoping to at least be able to prevent the formation of a Kurdish state south of his borders. The turn of events in the war, and the bargain plea reconciliation he has had with Russia after Turkey downed a Russian Su-24 in Nov 2015 has put Erdogan in that position. But Erdogan, the compulsive Islamist and nationalist, will always try to look for opportunities to turn and stab anyone in the back because his dreams of a great Turkey-based Muslim sultanate are bigger than any deal and treaty he signs with anyone.

That said, Erdogan will not settle for any outcome that will mean the establishment of a Kurdish state. Unless the tides change in his favour, it is highly unlikely that he will change course and demand more.

In effect, the war in northern Syria is more or less totally separate from the one heating up in the south with Israel.

Iran: The Syrian theatre has brought Iran physically closer to Israel in a manner that opened up a new border line that is bigger than the one Hezbollah has in Southern Lebanon. Israel does not have the reciprocal privilege. That said, whilst Israeli presence is not officially recognized in states like Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, there is little doubt that the Eastern coast of the Persian/Arabian Gulf is under Israeli direct or indirect control in more ways than one.

That said, it must be remembered that Iran’s issue with Israel is doctrinal and not territorial.

In brief, Iran’s military presence in Syria is in adherence to the common defense treaty it has with Syria, but it is also aimed at protecting Iran’s own interests and establishing military presence and rocket-launching capabilities that are only a few kilometers from major Israeli cities in comparison to the one thousand or so kilometers that separate Israel from Iran, or at best a couple of hundred that separate the east coast of the Persian/Arab Gulf from Iran’s southern cities.

Given that Iran is not a nuclear power and Israel is, based on the above, any conventional military confrontation with Israel will put Iran in a position of advantage.

Iran’s status in Syria can be either seen as offensive or defensive vis-à-vis Israel. Most likely, it is defensive, and Iran is unlikely to use its Syrian-based positions to initiate an unprovoked attack on Israel given Israel’s nuclear deterrence.

Hezbollah: In more ways than one, ideologically-speaking, Hezbollah is an extension of Iran. But strategically-speaking, Hezbollah is a part of the Lebanese political process. Moreover, Hezbollah’s issue with Israel is both doctrinal, and territorial.

Hezbollah went into Syria to defend Syria of course, but in defending Syria, Hezbollah was defending itself and Lebanon.

The supply lines for Hezbollah came from Syria, and this is no secret. But even if Hezbollah had to establish alternative routes after seven years of war, Hezbollah remains dependent on Syria for ensuring the depth of its survival and ability to fight. Even if Hezbollah went further and managed to establish its own military manufacturing base, and this is not unlikely, it remains entwined with Syria at levels that are essential for its survival and continuity.

Ideologically, Hezbollah is perhaps closer to Iran than any other ally, but strategically, it cannot be closer to any other ally more than Syria. To expect Hezbollah to yield to pressure and withdraw from Syria prematurely is tantamount to expecting North Korea to surrender its nuclear arsenal.

Israel: It wouldn’t be surprising to say that the post-Kissinger USA has left Israel feeling secure and privileged to the extent that it was able to coerce the world’s single superpower to rubber-stamp what suited it; even if it was against the interests of that superpower.

However, with all the support America gave Israel, Israel was not able to find peace, real lasting peace. Military superiority and peace are two different things, and America was able to provide Israel with the former, but not the latter.

But even that military superiority that meant once upon a time that Israel was untouchable has been eroded. The rise of Hezbollah to power in a manner that enabled it to bomb “Haifa and beyond” in July 2006 has sent shivers down the spines of Israeli military strategists.

Israel now has no idea what to expect if and when another military escalation ensues with Hezbollah and it is bracing for the worst.

Given the latest confrontations with the Syrian air defenses, Israel seems to be in a similar position in not knowing what to expect from Syria either.

The USA: In all what the USA has done in supporting the initial Saudi/Qatari/Turkish attack in the war on Syria, it achieved nothing more than defeat after defeat.

If there was ever a time during the last seven years for America to launch a major attack on Syria, it would have been done on the pretext of a chemical weapon attack allegedly perpetrated by the Syrian Army on Eastern Ghouta, but Obama did not take the Saudi-orchestrated bait. If Obama took a single and somber decision for which he will be positively remembered once all the dust has settled, it will have to be his decision not to attack Syria in early September 2013.

But Trump’s America inherited a Syria in which America has no presence or influence. The ailing nation cannot be seen to be standing still doing nothing about this.

Russia: Discussing the role of Russia was left till the end because to emphasize once again, as per previous articles, that the role of Russian diplomacy is becoming increasingly important in Syria and the Levant in general.

To put all of the above into a realistic perspective, there is a potential war brewing in southern Syria, a war that has little to do with the one raging in the north, and only Russia has the potential of dealing with the conflict.

There is no speck of doubt in my mind that Russia has a Middle East peace plan.

There is no doubt in my mind that Russia wants to catapult America out of its role as the Middle East peace talk negotiator; a role that it played for more than four decades now without any scores on the board.

It must be remembered that despite all the concessions PLO leaders gave Israel, America was unable to provide any peace to Palestine, and not even to Israel for that matter. It is highly likely that even Israel is growing tired of America’s elusive promises of peace; and the peace Israel was promised was based on quashing the axis of resistance and establishing toothless puppet Arab regimes that dance to America’s tune, and who would normalize relationships with Israel and not pose any threat at all, not now, not in the future.

So Russia is strengthening her position in the Middle East in preparation for the opportune moment to elevate herself to be accepted by all parties concerned as the single arbitrator who is capable of negotiating an all-inclusive deal.

The rest is simply posturing.

The recent escalation between Syria and Israel is not a prelude for a bigger war. Nobody wants a war; not right now, as they are all aware of the damage that can be inflicted upon them.

Israel keeps testing the waters, testing Syria’s air defense capabilities, and above all, testing Russia’s resolve and determination to create a true balance of power in the Middle East.

Some Arabs would be disappointed that Russia would not allow the total destruction of Israel, but Russia has never promised this. On the other hand however, Russia is pushing Israel to be realistic, and has never promised Israel total and unconditional support like the USA did since the days of Kissinger.

Unless Israel can safeguard itself against Hezbollah rockets, and which it can’t, it will never initiate an all-out war with either Syria, Hezbollah, or both; not forgetting the Iranian presence on the ground in Syria, just outside Israel’s borders.

Israel has to either accept that the rules of the game have changed, or risk an escalation that will inflict huge damage on its infrastructure and civilians. The recent downing of an Israeli F-16 by Syrian air defenses and the subsequent call Netanyahu made to Russian President Putin is a clear indication that Israel is not happy with the fact that Russian arm supplies to Syria are changing the balance of power.

An astute look at recent events can only propose that Russia is trying to drag Israel into peace talks that are based on a regional balance of power, but Israel is not convinced yet that it has to do this anymore than it is convinced that it has lost its military upper hand. On the other hand, Russia will find it very difficult to convince Syria, Hezbollah and Iran that they should have any peace at all with Israel. All the while, America realizes that it has no presence in the war in the south, and is using the Kurdish pretext to have “a” presence in the north in order not to miss out on being party to any settlement. Erdogan is doing his bit to prevent the creation of a Kurdish state in Syria. Other than that he has no role to play in the potential brewing conflict in the south. At the end, America will stab the Kurds in the back like it did many times earlier, the Kurdish aspirations for independence will be pushed back for many decades, and the real focus will be on the south, on Russia’s yet undeclared role and plan for a Middle East peace plan.

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#26 Tatarewicz

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 05:23 AM

"perhaps a limited concession should be made to US demands for all nations to submit to it's hellish masters." - Ivan88

 

Well if US has submitted by allowing American Jews to elect a pro-Israel Congress...


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 05:29 AM

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Iran has rejected as "ridiculous" claims by the Israeli regime that it had intercepted an Iranian drone launched from Syria, stressing the Islamic Republic's military advisory presence in the Arab country is at the request of Syria’s "constitutional and legitimate" government.

"Claims about the flight of an Iranian drone … are too ridiculous to be addressed because the Islamic Republic of Iran has advisory presence in Syria at the request of the country's legitimate and constitutional government," Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Bahram Qassemi said on Saturday.

"The government and army of Syria as an independent country have a legitimate right to defend [the country's] territorial integrity and counter any type of foreign aggression," he added.

The Iranian spokesperson emphasized that the "illegitimate" Israeli regime cannot cover up its atrocities and crimes against Muslim nations in the region by playing a blame game and spreading lies.

Resilient Syrians will not accept Israeli aggression: Velayati

Meanwhile, a senior adviser to Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei on international affairs said the resilient Syrian people will never tolerate the Israeli regime's aggression.

Speaking to reporters in Tehran, Ali Akbar Velayati added that the Syrian government and nation have proved that they would sacrifice themselves to "safeguard their country's territorial integrity, security and independence."

He noted that the Syrian people have managed to achieve victory in an "international war", in which more than 80 countries participated to dispatch terrorists to the Arab country.

The Syrian military on Saturday hit at least one intruding Israeli F-16 warplane that attacked positions inside the Syrian territory, sending it down in flames and smoke.

Syria’s state TV cited a military official as saying that Syrian aerial defense had responded to Israeli “aggression” against an army base in the center of the Arab country.

Later in the day, the Israeli military claimed that it had attacked positions inside the Syrian territory after it intercepted an Iranian drone launched from Syria.

A pro-Syrian military alliance said that the Israeli claim about a drone intrusion was bogus.

The alliance said in a statement that Israel had targeted a drone base in Syria whose unmanned aircraft were used against the Daesh terrorist group.

It also pledged a “severe and serious” response to the Israeli act of “terrorism.”

A senior commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) said on Saturday that Iran would confirm no report coming out of Israel “because the Israelis are liars.”

Brigadier General Hossein Salami, the IRGC’s second-in-command, told Tasnim news agency that Iran would only confirm a drone interception if Syria made that confirmation.

He also said that Iran has no military presence in Syria and that the Syrian Army was adequately capable of defending the Syrian territory.

Lebanon condemns Israel’s aggression against Syria

The Lebanese Foreign Ministry, in a statement, denounced Israel’s aggression against Syria, saying Beirut supports Damascus’ “legitimate right” to defend itself and respond to Israel's "aggression.”

The statement added that such "aggressive policy" threatens stability in the region and urged concerned countries to "rein in" Israel.

The Lebanese Defense Ministry also denounced the use of Lebanon’s air space for any Israeli strike on Syria.

Separately, Lebanese President Michel Aoun discussed the latest Israeli aggression against Syria with Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri and Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri. 

 

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#28 Tatarewicz

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 05:31 AM

"“because the Israelis are liars.”

 

Who would have thought!


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#29 Mario Milano

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 09:54 AM

Great news, one less murdering Khazar rodent on our planet

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Jew pilot shot down by Syrians dies of his injuries

 

BEIRUT, LEBANON (4:55 P.M.) – An Israeli pilot whose warplane was shot down by Syrian air defense forces on Saturday morning has died from injuries sustained during the engagement.

 

On Saturday, a major engagement between the Israeli Air Force and Syrian Air Defence Force took place over the occupied Golan Region, south Lebanon and the west Damascus region.

 

In a battle that lasted for hours, Israeli warplanes and Syrian anti-aircraft systems traded missile fire – literally dozens of such munitions were loosed – as the latter launched a general attack against ‘Iranian and regime’ bases west of Damascus.

 

At the beginning of the battle, Syrian surface-to-air missile systems downed an Israeli F-16I fighter jet over the occupied Golan Heights (described as ‘northern Israel’ by Israeli sources).

 

Both crew members reportedly ejected – the weapons operator with light injuries and the pilot with ‘severe’ injuries. Only video evidence exists for the pilot ejecting.

 

According to emerging reports, the Israeli pilot with serious injuries has died in hospital. No further details were given.


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 10:07 AM


Putin finally sent a message to Netanyahu telling him that he needs to start acting like a grown-up.



Putin's boss, Netanyahu, is trembling in his boots.

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 01:21 PM

Who is doing what in Syria and why

February 10, 2018

It seems that every time a chapter in the war on Syria comes to an end, a new factor surfaces. Just like the 1975-1989 civil war in Lebanon before it, and which started off with a clash between the PLO and the Lebanese rightwing Phalangist militia and then ended up with an Israeli invasion and its aftermath, the war on Syria is now a totally different war from the one that started seven years ago.

With other players gone or having their roles changed, the only persisting player is the Syrian Army of course, fighting here for the integrity and sovereignty of Syria. We cannot include its allies, because even its allies have changed.

There is much speculation about recent events, a lot of war and fear-mongering, but if all elements of the current powers on the ground are dissected and analyzed, it becomes very easy to see what is going on and who is doing what.

Before we try to understand who is doing what and why, let us first identify who are the main players on the ground and behind the scenes; past and present. This is a short list:

Syria of course
Saudi Arabia
Qatar
Kurds
Turkey
Iran
Hezbollah
Israel
the USA
Russia

Notwithstanding the inevitable continuing role and presence of Syria and popular national Syrian allied forces in the war against her, we must acknowledge that Saudi Arabia and Qatar have already played their role and walked away as losers. For the sake of historic documentation, this had to be mentioned even though they do not have much of an influence and clout at all at present.

Kurds are playing a role that cannot be discussed without acknowledging the role they played between 2011 and 2015/16. Kurdish fighters, separatists or otherwise, have upheld Syrian border integrity in Syria’s north from as early as 2011 when the Syrian Army had no allies on the ground. And even though the Syrian Army and Kurdish fighters did not fight physically within the same trench, the Kurds fought fiercely in the north, holding their ground, against Turkish-facilitated incursions and against ISIS later on.

However, as Kurdish separatist movements were established and as they were not preemptively contained under the roof of Damascus, something had to give.

Kurds who are separatists will do anything and make deals with anyone to make their dream come true. History has shown that they are prepared to join hands with America and even Israel.

It must be acknowledged however that Kurds who are not separatists, and there is no way of telling their percentage any more than there is a way of telling the percentage of those who are, do not seem to have much of a voice in their community. Furthermore, seemingly there isn’t an all-inclusive nationally-endorsed rationale where they can address their concerns against those who are separatists and in a manner that can allay their fears and apprehensions as a minority group in such a way that would quell their desire for independence.

Turkey’s role has been changing with the tides in the last seven years. From wanting to topple the Syrian Government and Erdogan praying at the Omayyad Mosque as the conqueror of Damascus, Erdogan is now in a much more humble damage-control mode hoping to at least be able to prevent the formation of a Kurdish state south of his borders. The turn of events in the war, and the bargain plea reconciliation he has had with Russia after Turkey downed a Russian Su-24 in Nov 2015 has put Erdogan in that position. But Erdogan, the compulsive Islamist and nationalist, will always try to look for opportunities to turn and stab anyone in the back because his dreams of a great Turkey-based Muslim sultanate are bigger than any deal and treaty he signs with anyone.

That said, Erdogan will not settle for any outcome that will mean the establishment of a Kurdish state. Unless the tides change in his favour, it is highly unlikely that he will change course and demand more.

In effect, the war in northern Syria is more or less totally separate from the one heating up in the south with Israel.

Iran: The Syrian theatre has brought Iran physically closer to Israel in a manner that opened up a new border line that is bigger than the one Hezbollah has in Southern Lebanon. Israel does not have the reciprocal privilege. That said, whilst Israeli presence is not officially recognized in states like Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, there is little doubt that the Eastern coast of the Persian/Arabian Gulf is under Israeli direct or indirect control in more ways than one.

That said, it must be remembered that Iran’s issue with Israel is doctrinal and not territorial.

In brief, Iran’s military presence in Syria is in adherence to the common defense treaty it has with Syria, but it is also aimed at protecting Iran’s own interests and establishing military presence and rocket-launching capabilities that are only a few kilometers from major Israeli cities in comparison to the one thousand or so kilometers that separate Israel from Iran, or at best a couple of hundred that separate the east coast of the Persian/Arab Gulf from Iran’s southern cities.

Given that Iran is not a nuclear power and Israel is, based on the above, any conventional military confrontation with Israel will put Iran in a position of advantage.

Iran’s status in Syria can be either seen as offensive or defensive vis-à-vis Israel. Most likely, it is defensive, and Iran is unlikely to use its Syrian-based positions to initiate an unprovoked attack on Israel given Israel’s nuclear deterrence.

Hezbollah: In more ways than one, ideologically-speaking, Hezbollah is an extension of Iran. But strategically-speaking, Hezbollah is a part of the Lebanese political process. Moreover, Hezbollah’s issue with Israel is both doctrinal, and territorial.

Hezbollah went into Syria to defend Syria of course, but in defending Syria, Hezbollah was defending itself and Lebanon.

The supply lines for Hezbollah came from Syria, and this is no secret. But even if Hezbollah had to establish alternative routes after seven years of war, Hezbollah remains dependent on Syria for ensuring the depth of its survival and ability to fight. Even if Hezbollah went further and managed to establish its own military manufacturing base, and this is not unlikely, it remains entwined with Syria at levels that are essential for its survival and continuity.

Ideologically, Hezbollah is perhaps closer to Iran than any other ally, but strategically, it cannot be closer to any other ally more than Syria. To expect Hezbollah to yield to pressure and withdraw from Syria prematurely is tantamount to expecting North Korea to surrender its nuclear arsenal.

Israel: It wouldn’t be surprising to say that the post-Kissinger USA has left Israel feeling secure and privileged to the extent that it was able to coerce the world’s single superpower to rubber-stamp what suited it; even if it was against the interests of that superpower.

However, with all the support America gave Israel, Israel was not able to find peace, real lasting peace. Military superiority and peace are two different things, and America was able to provide Israel with the former, but not the latter.

But even that military superiority that meant once upon a time that Israel was untouchable has been eroded. The rise of Hezbollah to power in a manner that enabled it to bomb “Haifa and beyond” in July 2006 has sent shivers down the spines of Israeli military strategists.

Israel now has no idea what to expect if and when another military escalation ensues with Hezbollah and it is bracing for the worst.

Given the latest confrontations with the Syrian air defenses, Israel seems to be in a similar position in not knowing what to expect from Syria either.

The USA: In all what the USA has done in supporting the initial Saudi/Qatari/Turkish attack in the war on Syria, it achieved nothing more than defeat after defeat.

If there was ever a time during the last seven years for America to launch a major attack on Syria, it would have been done on the pretext of a chemical weapon attack allegedly perpetrated by the Syrian Army on Eastern Ghouta, but Obama did not take the Saudi-orchestrated bait. If Obama took a single and somber decision for which he will be positively remembered once all the dust has settled, it will have to be his decision not to attack Syria in early September 2013.

But Trump’s America inherited a Syria in which America has no presence or influence. The ailing nation cannot be seen to be standing still doing nothing about this.

Russia: Discussing the role of Russia was left till the end because to emphasize once again, as per previous articles, that the role of Russian diplomacy is becoming increasingly important in Syria and the Levant in general.

To put all of the above into a realistic perspective, there is a potential war brewing in southern Syria, a war that has little to do with the one raging in the north, and only Russia has the potential of dealing with the conflict.

There is no speck of doubt in my mind that Russia has a Middle East peace plan.

There is no doubt in my mind that Russia wants to catapult America out of its role as the Middle East peace talk negotiator; a role that it played for more than four decades now without any scores on the board.

It must be remembered that despite all the concessions PLO leaders gave Israel, America was unable to provide any peace to Palestine, and not even to Israel for that matter. It is highly likely that even Israel is growing tired of America’s elusive promises of peace; and the peace Israel was promised was based on quashing the axis of resistance and establishing toothless puppet Arab regimes that dance to America’s tune, and who would normalize relationships with Israel and not pose any threat at all, not now, not in the future.

So Russia is strengthening her position in the Middle East in preparation for the opportune moment to elevate herself to be accepted by all parties concerned as the single arbitrator who is capable of negotiating an all-inclusive deal.

The rest is simply posturing.

The recent escalation between Syria and Israel is not a prelude for a bigger war. Nobody wants a war; not right now, as they are all aware of the damage that can be inflicted upon them.

Israel keeps testing the waters, testing Syria’s air defense capabilities, and above all, testing Russia’s resolve and determination to create a true balance of power in the Middle East.

Some Arabs would be disappointed that Russia would not allow the total destruction of Israel, but Russia has never promised this. On the other hand however, Russia is pushing Israel to be realistic, and has never promised Israel total and unconditional support like the USA did since the days of Kissinger.

Unless Israel can safeguard itself against Hezbollah rockets, and which it can’t, it will never initiate an all-out war with either Syria, Hezbollah, or both; not forgetting the Iranian presence on the ground in Syria, just outside Israel’s borders.

Israel has to either accept that the rules of the game have changed, or risk an escalation that will inflict huge damage on its infrastructure and civilians. The recent downing of an Israeli F-16 by Syrian air defenses and the subsequent call Netanyahu made to Russian President Putin is a clear indication that Israel is not happy with the fact that Russian arm supplies to Syria are changing the balance of power.

An astute look at recent events can only propose that Russia is trying to drag Israel into peace talks that are based on a regional balance of power, but Israel is not convinced yet that it has to do this anymore than it is convinced that it has lost its military upper hand. On the other hand, Russia will find it very difficult to convince Syria, Hezbollah and Iran that they should have any peace at all with Israel. All the while, America realizes that it has no presence in the war in the south, and is using the Kurdish pretext to have “a” presence in the north in order not to miss out on being party to any settlement. Erdogan is doing his bit to prevent the creation of a Kurdish state in Syria. Other than that he has no role to play in the potential brewing conflict in the south. At the end, America will stab the Kurds in the back like it did many times earlier, the Kurdish aspirations for independence will be pushed back for many decades, and the real focus will be on the south, on Russia’s yet undeclared role and plan for a Middle East peace plan.

http://thesaker.is/w...-syria-and-why/

Yes it is different from the war that started seven years ago because that was plan A, turn a bunch of Jihadi Apes loose to bring the Country down,that failed so now its plan B,open aggression against Syria from several Countries,the roaches are in the daylight. 


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 01:23 PM

Great news, one less murdering Khazar rodent on our planet

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Jew pilot shot down by Syrians dies of his injuries

 

BEIRUT, LEBANON (4:55 P.M.) – An Israeli pilot whose warplane was shot down by Syrian air defense forces on Saturday morning has died from injuries sustained during the engagement.

 

On Saturday, a major engagement between the Israeli Air Force and Syrian Air Defence Force took place over the occupied Golan Region, south Lebanon and the west Damascus region.

 

In a battle that lasted for hours, Israeli warplanes and Syrian anti-aircraft systems traded missile fire – literally dozens of such munitions were loosed – as the latter launched a general attack against ‘Iranian and regime’ bases west of Damascus.

 

At the beginning of the battle, Syrian surface-to-air missile systems downed an Israeli F-16I fighter jet over the occupied Golan Heights (described as ‘northern Israel’ by Israeli sources).

 

Both crew members reportedly ejected – the weapons operator with light injuries and the pilot with ‘severe’ injuries. Only video evidence exists for the pilot ejecting.

 

According to emerging reports, the Israeli pilot with serious injuries has died in hospital. No further details were given.

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#33 Mario Milano

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:56 AM

Israel's Fourth Generation Fighter Jet Shot Down by Russian S-200 Air Shield

TEHRAN (FNA)- One of the most advanced fighter jets worldwide used by the Israeli Air Force to attack Syria was shot down by an old Soviet-made S-200 ground-to-air missile, a Russian media outlet reported on Sunday.

The Arabic-language website of Sputnik quoted the website of Aviation Analysis Wing as reporting that the Syrian air defense units targeted the modern Israeli F16 fighter jet by a S-200 missile defense system designed in soviet era in the 1960s.

The Israeli Air Force’s F16 is a forth generation fighter jet equipped with modern electronic system.

Field sources in Damascus province said on Saturday that the Syrian Army’s air defense units confronted the third wave of Israeli air raids in the Western part of Damascus province.

The sources said that air defense units repelled the third round of Israeli airstrikes on army positions in al-Dimas region, tracking and destroying the Israeli air-to-surface missile before hitting the target on the ground.

In the meantime, the AMN reported that the Israeli Air Force fired several missiles at a number of military points near the occupied Golan in Western Ghouta, adding that the Syrian forces tracked two of the fired missiles.

Meantime, the Israelis claim that they halted the raids. “Our operation has been terminated,” spokesman for the Israeli army announced a few minutes ago.

Also, Israeli media reported that Tel Aviv called on Washington and Moscow to meddle and take control over the situation.

The Syria’s state-run SANA said that a situation of fear and anxiety covered the Northern part of occupied Palestine.

SANA reported on Saturday that the Syrian air defense units confronted the second raid of Israeli fighter jets in Damascus province airspace.

The news agency further quoted a military source as saying that the air defense units repelled the Israeli jet’s fresh attack on army positions in the Southern part of the country.

Israel’s Channel 2 also reported that the Ben Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv had temporarily halted air traffic.

The Syrian military had hit at least one Israeli F-16 aircraft that attacked positions inside Syrian territory, sending it down in flames and smoke.

Over the past years, Israel has frequently attacked targets in Syria, often claiming that it hit positions or convoys belonging to Iran. This is while Iran has no military presence in Syrian territory, only offering advisory military assistance to the Syrian government fighting an all-out foreign-sponsored militancy.

Damascus stressed on Thursday that the repeated Israeli attacks on Syria are a continuation of Israel’s aggressive approach represented by supporting terrorist groups to prolong the crisis in Syria and to raise the morale of the terrorists.

In a letter sent to the United Nations Secretary General Antonio Guterres and the UN Security Council, Syria’s Foreign Ministry stressed that the continuation of Israel’s attacks only serves to support terrorist groups and to prolong the crisis in Syria.

“The government of the Syrian Arab Republic reiterates its warning to Israel on the serious repercussions of its attacks on Syria, its continued support for armed terrorist organizations, and its continued occupation of the Arab territories, including the occupied Syrian Golan, and it holds Israel fully responsible for that,” it said.

It further went on to condemn the Tel Aviv regime’s latest attack in which Israeli aircraft launched missiles from the Lebanese airspace on an area in Damascus countryside.

The letter noted that the attack coincides with “the launching of more than 1,000 rockets and mortar rounds during the past few days on neighborhoods, suburbs, diplomatic missions, service facilities, and churches in Damascus and other cities, where dozens of civilians were killed and hundreds others were wounded, most of them women and children.”

The letter concluded by calling on the UN and the Security Council to condemn such actions and to take firm and immediate measures to halt those attacks.

http://en.farsnews.c...=13961122000364
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#34 Mario Milano

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 02:11 AM

Yes it is different from the war that started seven years ago because that was plan A, turn a bunch of Jihadi Apes loose to bring the Country down,that failed so now its plan B,open aggression against Syria from several Countries,the roaches are in the daylight.


Yep, here's a very good report of all the crap that is happening in Syria now....
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ISRAEL ATTACKS SYRIA – WHITE HELMETS EXPOSED – ODED YINON CONTINUES
 


Edited by Mario Milano, 12 February 2018 - 02:36 AM.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:03 PM

Yes great report,but like it says in that Russia in Crosshairs article if Russia doesn't wake up and take the gloves off they could lose in Syria,but that wouldn't be the end of it because the Reich would then go for Lebanon and Iran and then Russia,at some stage a bully has to be taken down,there is a good chance the Reich will open a second front in Ukraine,probably when the Russian election is on,Putin shouldn't be having a nice conversation with Bibi,he should be threatening the bastard. 


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#36 Mario Milano

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:34 PM

Yes great report,but like it says in that Russia in Crosshairs article if Russia doesn't wake up and take the gloves off they could lose in Syria,but that wouldn't be the end of it because the Reich would then go for Lebanon and Iran and then Russia,at some stage 

Yeh you have to be wondering if the Russians are just beating the crap out of the USA ISISRael terror rats just enough to keep them bogged down in Syria so they can't move on to the next target which would be Lebanon and Iran?

 

I mean Syria is already destroyed, why not keep the USA/ISISRAEL there


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:07 PM

Yes but if they were liquidated in Syria they wouldn't be in any fit shape to move on anywhere.


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:13 PM

Yes but if they were liquidated in Syria they wouldn't be in any fit shape to move on anywhere.

 The Russians and Syrians seem to be liquidating thousands of them and still there are thousands of the CIA/Pentagram paid for rats in Syria.....

 

Better to keep them there then move on to Lebanon and then Iran


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:38 PM

 The Russians and Syrians seem to be liquidating thousands of them and still there are thousands of the CIA/Pentagram paid for rats in Syria.....

 

Better to keep them there then move on to Lebanon and then Iran

The SAA have moved a large force east of the Euphrates south Deirr Ezzur,same area they came under attack from Reich aircraft last week,i hope the Russians are providing air cover,they have moved tanks, MRLs, and other heavy weapons into the area,looks like they are preparing to have another go at taking those oil and gas fields back,now the US has a problem, saw a report today that some of their Kurdish/SDF quislings have re deployed to the Afrin area to fight the Turks,so we have the US trained Kurds fighting another Nato Country Turkey,you couldn't make this shit up. :lafn:


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#40 Mario Milano

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:41 PM

The SAA have moved a large orrce east of the Euphrates south Deirr Ezzur,sme area they came under attack from Reich aircraft last week,i hope the Russians are providing air cover,they have moved tanks, MRLs, and other heavy weapons into the area,looks like they are preparing to have another go at taking those oil and gas fields back,now the US has a problem, saw a report today that some of their Kurdish/SDF quislings have re deployed to the Afrin area to fight the Turks,so we have the US trained Kurds fighting another Nato Country Turrkey,you couldn't make this shit up.

One thing for sure...Russia won't allow the oil fields to fall


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