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#1 grog

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 02:45 PM

Early Draft Of The Bible Discovered; Experts Say It Proves Bible Is 'Fiction'
 
 
 
 
 
 
March 1, 2018
 
 
 
 
 
 
An early draft of The King James Bible has been found at the University of Cambridge and experts claim it proves the Bible is "fiction."
 
An early handwritten draft of The King James Bible has been found hiding in plain sight at the University of Cambridge in England and the unexpected find has been marked as one of the most significant discoveries in modern history.
 
The handwritten draft was found after it had been mislabeled inside an archive and had gone undetected for decades.
 
The book has been confirmed by leading experts as an early working of The King James Bible which remains the highest selling book in history, not to mention one of the most influential and widely read books around the world.
 
The discovery has been hailed as definitive proof that Bible is actually a work of fiction written by men, and not the "divine word of God" transcribed by writers with an angel standing over their back. The manuscript shows a process of revising, editing, and then more rewriting, according to experts who are now analyzing the text.
 
MysteriousEarth reports: The King James Bible or simply the Authorized Version, is an English translation of the Christian Bible for the Church of England that combines books from the Old and New Testaments as well as other Christian scriptures.
 
The notes and commentary in the recently discovered draft of this book show how "best bits" were cherry-picked from the original books and were then embellished, exaggerated or rewritten to make for "better reading"
 
There are also indications that sections were written under orders from the King. These sections seemed geared towards installing the belief in the "common" people that the hierarchy of the ruling elites was justified.
 
The notebook containing the draft was found by an American scholar, Jeffrey Alan Miller, an assistant professor of English at Montclair State University in New Jersey, who announced his research in an article in The Times Literary Supplement.
 
Mr. Miller was researching an essay about Samuel Ward, one of the King James translators, and was hoping to find an unknown letter at the archives.
 
While you can say he certainly accomplished that end, he definitely wasn't expecting to find the earliest draft of the King James Bible - which is now giving new insights into how the Bible was constructed.
 
He first came across the plain notebook not knowing what it was - it was incorrectly labeled. That's why no one has found it until now.
 
It had been cataloged in the 1980s as a "verse-by-verse" Biblical commentary with "Greek word studies, and some Hebrew notes."
 
When he tried in vain to figure out which passages of the Bible the commentary was referring to, he realized that it was no commentary at all - it was an early draft of part of the King James Version of the Bible.
 
Professor Miller described what it felt like when he first knew what he had in his hands: "There was a kind of thunderstruck, leap-out-of-bathtub moment. But then comes the more laborious process of making sure you are 100 percent correct.
 
"The material in the manuscript discovered by Miller covers the apocryphal books called Esdras and Wisdom and seems to show that the translation process at Cambridge worked completely different than what researchers had previously known.
 
Until now, it had been assumed that six different teams, or companies of translators that is, had worked more collaboratively rather than individually. Yet - this draft throws that idea out the window.
 
Ward's draft seems to indicate the people were assigned individual sections of the Bible and then worked on them almost entirely by themselves - a massive undertaking with little guesswork.
 
You would think this would cause people to become more error prone. In fact, quite hilariously, Professor Miller noticed that the draft suggests that Ward was picking up the slack for another translator. This really shows how human the entire job was, according to him.
 
"Some of them, being typical academics, either fell down on the job or just decided not to do it. It really testifies to the human element of this kind of great undertaking."
 
While this finding certainly doesn't disprove God, it does show that the translators of the Bible didn't get a finalized product the first go around - it wasn't a walk in the park with an angel over their shoulder telling them what to write.
 
It does, however, offer definitive proof that the Bible isn't the "actual word of God" and that the words in the Bible shouldn't be taken literally.
 
The finding clearly shows how people can be manipulated into submission by offering up stories of other human beings who have "divine powers" as a way of controlling them, in a way not too dissimilar from the way governments use the mainstream media to brainwash the public today.
 
This book took many different individuals, working separately - and they often suffered from man-made struggles, like meeting deadlines.
 
You know, now that we think of it, doesn't sound that much different from the writers of today's workforce.
 
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 02:48 PM

Book Of Revelation And The 7 Last Plagues 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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#3 Mario Milano

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 03:11 PM

Have you stopped on your retard boogeyman flu is gunna getcha crap and better let the jew mafia pharma companies poison you and this is your latest spambotting?

Can't wait....
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 04:00 PM

Grog this is the silliest misleading article you have written.

 

The King James version  is a 'translation" of the Bible and we still have some of the original New Testament written in Greek on papyri and new archaeological finds some dating to JUST AFTER the crucifixion. Other copies from that area are in Coptic and Syriac with Latin versions almost contemporary. There are some differences which make them even more valid historically and not just a cookbook text as you say.

 

The Gospel of Thomas though not canonical is a prime example of an independently written book maybe older than the synoptic four gospels. 

 

I have seen and studied these documents myslef via photo plates and the museums are listed in my original translators' edition.

 

Homework?

 

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From Revelations 3rd C AD.

 

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Gospel papyri 1st cntury AD

 

There's tons of them + new ones being found

 

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Still, there's so much we do not know - YET

 

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 08:32 PM

Thanks Grog for exposing the King James Bible. This Bible is responsible for destroying Christendom., especially the accomplishments of Martin Luther.

 

The King James Bible was created by Talmudists to subvert Christendom. It is essentially, a political book and thus it  is fictionalized.

 

In the Early 1800's, most Christian groups in the USA made it even worse by removing what they call Apocripha, and then coming up with the Scoffield Bible.

 

Amazingly the Catholic Bible, called Duoay Rheims 1607 is far less subverted.

 

However, that video, you posted in post #2, Grog, is part of the problem and has nothing to do with the solution.

 

The Book of Revelation was written about the then coming destruction of Jerusalem and wiping out of the Pharisees, that happened in 70 A.D., But, most Christians foolishly believe it's all about things 2000 years later.

 

As for 2000 years later, all Biblical Prophecies can be applied to later generations if those later generations want to qualify for a re-run.


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 08:47 PM



Evil satanic jew/nwo antichrists hate the King James Bible.


The majority of the King James Bible is taken from Tyndale's
English translation of the Bible for which Tyndale was martyred.


The KJV -- A Lasting Monument to William Tyndale

By Julie Roys
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CBN.com - For the past four centuries, the King James Version of the Bible has reigned supreme. Soon after its completion in 1611, it became the translation of choice for almost all English-speaking Protestants. Some 350 years after its creation, Winston Churchill hailed it a masterpiece and George Bernard Shaw called the King James Version "magnificent." Today, even the famous atheist Richard Dawkins admits, "Not to know the King James Bible is to be, in some small way, a barbarian."

Yet, who do we have to thank for this incredible work? Truly, King James provided the vision and resources necessary to create the version that bears his name. This published scholar, linguist, and poet assembled some 47 scholars who worked tirelessly for seven years to produce the king's "Authorized Version."

Still, King James' magnum opus never would have been produced had it not been for a simple cleric who lived nearly 100 years earlier. His name was William Tyndale. And, Tyndale lived and died for one consuming passion: he wanted the boy who quote "driveth the plough" to know Scripture every bit as well as the priest who led his congregation.

That's a noble aspiration today, but in the 1520s, it was heretical. The Catholic Church had forbidden that the Bible be translated into the common language. The church viewed an informed public as a threat to its power. And, many priests feared a biblically literate populace would better recognize their corruption. As the Bishop of London expounded at the time, the Bible in "the vulgar tongue . . . will without doubt infect and contaminate the flock committed to us."

Tyndale, however, embraced the doctrine of the priesthood of all believers - that God commissions all believers to be ministers of His Word. Tyndale also rightly understood that the church would never reform as long as laypeople were denied God's truth.

Tyndale fled to Germany in 1524 and the next year, produced the New Testament in English. This New Testament was then printed and smuggled into England. And, in 1530, Tyndale completed and printed the Pentateuch in English, as well. Five years later, though, a friend betrayed Tyndale. He was captured and imprisoned in a castle near Brussels. There he languished for more than 430 days without heat or light. Eventually, Tyndale was charged with treason and hanged. Yet, right before Tyndale died, he cried out, "Lord, open the king of England's eyes!"

That God did in the early 1600s. And, nearly 90-percent of Tyndale's Bible passed into the King James Version. Truly, this version stands as a lasting monument not just to King James, but to William Tyndale - a martyr and hero of the faith. All of us who own a Bible owe Tyndale a great debt..


http://www.cbn.com/s...iamTyndale.aspx

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 09:19 PM

Evil satanic jew/nwo antichrists hate the King James Bible.


The majority of the King James Bible is taken from Tyndale's
English translation of the Bible for which Tyndale was martyred.


The KJV -- A Lasting Monument to William Tyndale


Tyndale fled to Germany in 1524 and the next year, produced the New Testament in English. This New Testament was then printed and smuggled into England.


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Tyndale knew Luther. In Germany Luther translated the Bible into German. Both Bible scholars knew they would probably be martyred for their effort to give their people the opportunity to read the Bible in their native languages. Tyndale was martyred but Luther successfully avoided repeated attempts at arrest and execution.

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#8 Bruce M Cow

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 12:22 AM

Tyndale knew Luther. In Germany Luther translated the Bible into German. Both Bible scholars knew they would probably be martyred for their effort to give their people the opportunity to read the Bible in their native languages. Tyndale was martyred but Luther successfully avoided repeated attempts at arrest and execution.

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I believe this more.


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Posted 04 March 2018 - 12:01 PM

The Bible is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence
 
 
 
 
 
MAY 13, 2007
 
 
 
 
 
Similarities to Other Stories
 
The similarities between the stories and characters in the Bible and those from previous mythologies are both undeniable and well-documented. This would be obvious if it weren't for early indoctrination of these beliefs into children, which usually makes them unassailable as adults.
 
In this short piece I'll attempt to show extraordinary similarities with regard to two of the most important Biblical narratives: the genesis story and the character of jesus christ.
 
The Book of Genesis's Flood Story Mirrors The Epic Of Gilgamesh From Hundreds Of Years Earlier
 
Here are a number of elements that both Gilgamesh and the flood story in Genesis share:
 
God decided to send a worldwide flood. This would drown men, women, children, babies and infants, as well as eliminate all of the land animals and birds.
 
God knew of one righteous man, Ut-Napishtim or Noah.
 
God ordered the hero to build a multi-story wooden ark (called a chest or box in the original Hebrew), and the hero initially complained about the assignment to build the boat.
 
The ark would have many compartments, a single door, be sealed with pitch and would house one of every animal species.
 
A great rain covered the land with water.
 
The ark landed on a mountain in the Middle East.
 
The first two birds returned to the ark. The third bird apparently found dry land because it did not return.
 
The hero and his family left the ark, ritually killed an animal, offered it as a sacrifice.
 
The Babylonian gods seemed genuinely sorry for the genocide that they had created. The God of Noah appears to have regretted his actions as well, because he promised never to do it again.
 
Keep in mind the level of detail in these similarities. It's not a matter of just a flood, but specific details: three birds sent out, resisting the call to build the ark, and a single man being chosen by God to build the ark. Then consider that the first story (Gilgamesh) came from Babylon - hundreds of years before the Bible was even written.
 
Do you honestly think, based on the similarities above, that those who wrote the Genesis story had not heard the Gilgamesh story? And if they had heard it, and they were simply rehashing an old, very popular tale, what does that say about the Bible?
 
Jesus's Story is an Obvious Rehashing Of Numerous Previous Characters
 
Perhaps even more compelling is the story of Christ himself. As it turns out it's not even remotely original. It is instead nothing more than a collection of bits and pieces from dozens of other stories that came long before. Here are some examples.
 
asklepios healed the sick, raised the dead, and was known as the savior and redeemer.
 
hercules was born of a divine father and mortal mother and was known as the savior of the world.
 
dionysus was literally the "Son of God", was born of a woman who had not had sex with a man, and was depicted riding a donkey. He was a traveling teacher who performed miracles, and was killed and resurrected, after which time he became immortal.
 
osiris did the same things. He was born of a virgin, was considered the first true king of the people, and when he died he rose from the grave and went to heaven.
 
Osiris's son, horus, was known as the "light of the world", "The good shepherd", and "the lamb". He was also referred to as, "The way, the truth, and the life." His symbol was a cross-like symbol.
 
mithra's birthday was celebrated on the 25th of december, his birth was witnessed by local shepherds who brought him gifts, had 12 disciples, and when he was done on earth he had a final meal before going up to heaven. On judgment day he'll return to pass judgment on the living and the dead. The good will go to heaven, and the evil will die in a giant fire. His holiday is on Sunday (he's the Sun God). His followers called themselves "brothers", and their leaders "fathers". They had baptism and a meal ritual where symbolic flesh and blood were eaten. Heaven was in the sky, and hell was below with demons and sinners.
 
krishna had a miraculous conception that wise men were able to come to because they were guided by a star. After he was born an area ruler tried to have him found and killed. His parents were warned by a divine messenger, however, and they escaped and was met by shepherds. The boy grew up to be the mediator between God and man.
 
buddha's mother was told by an angel that she'd give birth to a holy child destined to be a savior. As a child he teaches the priests in his temple about religion while his parents look for him. He starts his religious career at roughly 30 years of age and is said to have spoken to 12 disciples on his deathbed. One of the disciples is his favorite, and another is a traitor. He and his disciples abstain from wealth and travel around speaking in parables and metaphors. He called himself "the son of man" and was referred to as, "prophet", "master", and "Lord". He healed the sick, cured the blind and deaf, and he walked on water. One of his disciples tried to walk on water as well but sunk because his faith wasn't strong enough.
 
apollonius of tyana (a contemporary of Jesus) performed countless miracles (healing sick and crippled, restored sight, casted out demons, etc.) His birth was of a virgin, foretold by an angel. He knew scripture really well as a child. he was crucified, rose from the dead and appeared to his disciples to prove his power before going to heaven to sit at the right hand of the father. He was known as, "The Son of God".
 
The problem, of course, is that these previous narratives existed hundreds to thousands of years before Jesus did.
 
Unavoidable contradictions
 
Not only was the Bible taken largely and blatantly from previous stories, but there are contradictions so massive that they defy belief. Here are just a few of them.
 
Noah's Ark: The story of the Ark is that a pair of every animal on earth was put on the ship. Forgetting for a second the fact that the story came directly from the Epic of Gilgamesh, keep in mind we're being asked to believe that two 500-year-old people are caring for tens of thousands of animals. And where did they keep the food? How did they keep the poisonous snakes from biting the other animals? And where did they get the polar bears, alligators, and thousands of other animals that that don't live in the Middle East?
 
The Angel's Message: In Matthew 1:20 it says the Angel spoke to Joseph. In Luke 1:28 he spoke to Mary. Which was it?
 
Mary's Virginity: The Hebrew word 'Almah', which people took to mean virgin, actually means 'young woman of marriage age'. And there are plenty of indications that Jesus had brothers and sisters.
 
The Census: The authors of the Bible are trying so hard to get Jesus born in Bethlehem that they craft a story about a census. They say that Joseph had to travel back to his father's homeland in order to register for it. Can you seriously imagine-in any period let alone then-asking the entire country to travel back their father's hometown to register for a census? It's completely impossible. The author of the story put it in there because they needed Jesus born in that city. Plus, historians note that the Romans kept extraordinary records, and there wasn't even a census at that time. It's completely fabricated, and for obvious reasons.
 
Jesus and the Family: The Bible says honor your father and mother, yet Jesus says you must hate your father, mother, wife, children, and even your own life to be a disciple, and says to call no man on earth your father. (MT 10:35-37, LK 12:51-53, 14:26, MT 23:9)
 
God and Murder: God says killing is wrong, yet he advocates genocide. (EX 34:11-14, LV 26:7-9)
 
God and Slavery: We all know slavery to be wrong, yet God openly advocates it. (GN 17:12, EX 12:43, EX: 21:1, EX 21:20, EX 21:32, LV 22:10, LV 25:44, LK 7:2, CL 3:22)
 
Jesus's Heritage: There are two different genealogies for Jesus given in the Bible, and they don't match. One is curiously given through Joseph, which is strange since he's not Jesus's father. Why give a genealogy through someone who isn't related to you?
 
The Passover: It's widely understood that God is supposed to be all-seeing and all-knowing. If that's true, then why did he need people to mark their houses with blood in order to keep from killing their babies inside?
 
Kill Your Son to Prove You Love Me: God told Abraham to kill his son to prove that he loved God. Abraham raised the knife to him, about to do it, and God called it off-pleased that he would have done it. Does that sound like a moral God to you?
 
This is just a tiny sample of the inconsistencies and moral problems with the Bible. There are far more linked in the notes. But don't take my word for any of this. Go to the passages. Read the material. It's all there.
 
Nagging questions
 
how is jesus's crucifixion the ultimate sacrifice if he isn't dead? He has been immortal since the beginning of time, and he's still alive and immortal today, so where's the sacrifice?
 
If Jesus removed our sins with his (see above) "sacrifice", then how come we still have to avoid sin and accept him as our savior to avoid an eternity in hell? What did it accomplish?
 
Why does the Bible talk constantly about how to manage slaves, how to kill one's enemies, and how to avoid making God angry, but there's not much focus at all on seemingly obvious things like, "Thou Shalt Not Harm a Child"?
 
I know the Ark was supposed to be large, but the world currently has an estimated 8,700,000 species of life form. And you needed two of each 
 
Forgetting just the numbers problem, how did the species that only exist (and still exist) in South America, and Antartica, and Australia, etc., all make it to the Ark?
 
What's the direct, non-hand-waving explanation for the suffering and death of roughly 9 million children per year in a world supposedly ruled by a kind and loving God?
 
When Wikipedia can be updated by a random human, for billions of people in mere seconds, why has God left his book filled with stories of slavery, rape, and genocide from thousands of years ago?
 
The logical conclusion
 
Many are familiar with occam's razor, which states that, all things being equal, one should not seek complex explanations when more simple ones are available. Few dispute that these other stories predate the Judeo-Christian Bible, or that the Bible is full of massive contradictions, so we really have two main explanations:
 
God created all these stories and characters thousands of years before the Bible in order to trick people, and then created new stories and characters that were almost exactly the same. But the version that went into the Bible-even with all the contradictions and immoral teachings-is the actual word of God. …OR…
 
The Bible was created during a time where stories were orally passed down over thousands of years. Stories constantly morphed and changed over time, and the Bible is a collection of these. This is why it has the nearly identical flood story from Gilgamesh, and why Jesus has the same characteristics as Dionysus, Osiris, Horus, Mithra, and Krishna. The contradictions and immorality in the stories are not evidence that God is flawed or evil, but rather that humans invented him, just like the thousands of other gods that we used to but no longer believe in.
 
If you hadn't been taught Christianity since you were a young child, which of these two explanations would make the most sense to you?
 
Notes
 
The goal of this page is not to say God is evil or bad. The point is to show that he is imaginary, created by humans, and to use the blatant reproductions, inconsistencies, and immoral teachings of the Bible to show that the Bible is false, and was written by man. God is not at fault here; there is no reason to believe anything like God exists at all. We simply made it all up because 1) we are afraid of death and, 2) we can use such beliefs to control people.
 
 
here is a list of far more contradictions and problems with the Bible
 
Comparison of Babylonian and Noahic Flood Stories: http://www.religious...rg/noah_com.htm
 
this website is a phenomenal resource for showing how immoral the teachings of the Bible truly are
 
 
[ November 2015 ] A number of the facts listed above about mythical beings that pre-dated Jesus are up for debate. Back when I wrote this I took the content to be factual (I was less careful then), but the truth is that there is much discussion around these details. The important thing to capture from that section is that there were popular concepts that predated Jesus by hundreds of years that ended up in his stories as well. You can research the details more deeply if you want; I have removed a couple of points already, and will be cleaning it up more as I have time. I'd currently give that section an 85% accuracy rating.
 
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#10 RobertD

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 12:58 PM

Al Grog is a fkg goof.
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:20 PM

White evangelicals can’t be reading the same Bible as me.
 
I’m ashamed they voted for Trump.
 
 
 
 
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:11 PM

You must be jewish.
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:32 PM

There are many stories similar to Bible stories because the King of kings spoke to many peoples to prepare Mankind for His appearance.


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#14 Mario Milano

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:35 PM

You must be jewish.


Of course he is...just his retarded stupid shit promoting anything jew is a give away...then he posts some retard crap that the psychotic lying jew is the smartest person in the universe...

Let's see how smart they are at out running 7.62 mm rounds now that the goy are waking up to their psychotic shit..let's see how smart these jew thieves that have plundered Palestine are when Palestinians start delivering Kornet rockets into their apartments on land stolen from the Palestinians..

dumbest fcks on earth, been kicked out of 109 countries, persecuted and killed thru out history because of their satanic behaviour...me thnks there will not be a 111th time, the 110th will be the last time humanity has the deal with these jew fckers
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Posted 06 March 2018 - 10:45 AM

Christians do not agree with members of the 6000 Year Cult.

 

 

 


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Posted 06 March 2018 - 10:47 AM

Do members of the 6000 Year Cult have a lower I.Q. than atheists?

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 11:47 AM

The Humanist Dilemma: When Should a Student Come Out as an Atheist?
 
 
 
 
 
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To Be or Not to Be…Out. 
 
I'm eighteen and will soon be graduating from a small, privately run, conservative Christian high school in the Midwest- and I'm an agnostic atheist. Ironically I won the Christian testimony award last year and have been a poster child for the school as a "virtuous woman." These "honors" and "awards," as the administration calls them, do not mean that I quietly sit in Bible class without challenging their ideas in a respectful manner. (Yes, I have Bible class for an hour every day.)
 
Both of my parents are highly religious; my father even used to be a pastor. To their dismay, I'm going to a secular college next year. My mom keeps on hounding me about what church I'll attend, and how I'll maintain my faith. If I come out as an atheist right now, I would be kicked out of my high school. But if I come out in college, my parents might not help me with my expenses. (Granted, they were only going to give me a modest amount, but it's still a lot of money to me). I love my parents and I fear the repercussions. They would never harm me, but the social backlash from my extended family may be severe.
 
Should I maintain a façade of my "faith" and periodically attend church? What would you do in my situation?
 
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Congratulations on your achievements in high school and the fact that not only did you get into a secular college, your parents are allowing you to continue your education there. You may not realize it, but proficiency in Christian testimony and Bible studies can carry you a long way in life, no matter what path you choose (and atheists tend to be high scorers on tests of biblical knowledge-not as surprising as it may at first seem, since actually reading that book tends to erode faith). It also sounds as though you'll be away from home next year, so your parents won't have a front row seat to see whatever you do-or don't do.
 
First of all, I suggest you look into financial aid of all kinds, through your college, through outside sources, through part-time jobs at or near your school and during summers. There are also some cool scholarship opportunities such as the FFRF student essay contests.  The more you become financially independent  from your parents, the more you can assert yourself without fearing the rug will be pulled out from under you.
 
Conversely, there's no good reason to come out now, while you're still in high school. If you got kicked out as you predict, that could very well result in your college acceptance being rescinded. Whatever imaginable gain, it's hugely outweighed by very substantial and real risk. So just keep doing what you've been doing, which apparently is working very well for you, as you rack up awards and honors for politely raising questions about faith.
 
You can tell your parents that when you get to college you'll check out various religious options. Every school has student faith organizations, and you can explore any and all of them. Maybe you'll make some friends and enjoy some groups. Maybe you can find one that is very light on dogma and strong in community. Maybe there's a secular student group you can become involved with (and if not, consider starting one once you get your bearings). Use your judgment to figure out how often to go to any kind of church, if at all. I don't advocate outright lying, but you can certainly beg off attendance with very genuine excuses: you have too much studying to do, or a volunteer project that takes time, or student activities or a job that requires Sunday morning hours. Try to give your parents the bare minimum of information-just enough to keep them from showing up and dragging you away.
 
Once you're earning enough money to stay afloat without your parents' help, and you feel confident, you can start gradually-or cold turkey-withdrawing from any religious activities and narratives you've been maintaining, if that's what you want to do. If you're enjoying any faith-based activities, there's no reason you can't continue as long as you're getting something out of them.
 
As for your extended family: You can't live your life on pretense just to keep everyone happy. You don't have to tell them anything about your faith unless you want to, and if they learn the truth regardless-well, it's the truth, whether or not they choose to accept it. If your family really does reject you, move on (but remain open to reconnecting if and when they are ready to respect your views). You are doing nothing wrong and everything right.
 
The minute you get to college (and even before, using social media to start meeting classmates), create a new extended family of like-minded individuals and groups. You have your whole life ahead of you, and that-not the rest of high school or the college years, which will go by in a blink-is what you must focus on. Carrying on an elaborate charade will only stunt you in the short term and, more importantly, in the long run. The sooner you start living according to your own beliefs, the sooner you'll start maximizing your potential and living your life authentically.
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Joan Reisman-Brill is a writer based in New York City and certified Humanist Celebrant. She received her BA in English literature from the University of Chicago, an MA also in English lit from the University of Michigan, and an MBA in management and marketing from New York University. She has worked in public relations, marketing and myriad facets of writing and editing for nearly four decades. She has been steadily increasingly her humanist identification and activism at an accelerating rate, and while she doesn't pretend to have all the answers, she welcomes this opportunity to tackle the questions. Joan writes The Humanist Dilemma column for TheHumanist.com.
 
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#18 RobertD

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 12:45 PM

He's just another xxxx asshole.
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#19 Atossa

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:20 PM


6000 Year Cult.




??

Are you referring to the ancient Byzantine/Russian calendar that ended in 1492 ??


" Meanwhile, as Russia received Orthodox Christianity from Byzantium, she inherited the Orthodox Calendar based on the Byzantine Era (translated into Slavonic). After the collapse of the Byzantine Empire in 1453, the era continued to be used by Russia, which witnessed millennialist movements in Moscow in AD 1492 (7000 AM) due to the end of the church calendar. "

https://en.wikipedia...antine_calendar


Ironically, as 1492, the end of the 6000 years, approached,
priests told Russia's Tsar the antichrist would rise. Like a
beast from the sea the New World and New Order of the Ages,
first arose in 1492.

It very well could be about 6000 years from God's special
creation of Adam [Aryans = Aryan Israelites] long after the
creation of earth, animals and humanoids.

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Edited by Atossa, 06 March 2018 - 07:28 PM.

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:29 PM

Jews hate the bible because it prophecies what will happen to them in the end times, when their vices come back to hang them, and it's time to pay for their bloodshed.
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